SWTOR PvP Gearing changes in 2.0

An overview of the PvP Gearing changes in patch 2.0

With patch 2.0, War Hero and Elite War Hero PvP gear are no longer being sold. Instead, there are three  new armor sets.

  • Partisan (L61 mods) – purchased with normal Warzone Commendations (Require Level 55 to use)
  • Conqueror (L63 mods) – purchased with normal and ranked Warzone Commendations (Require Level 55 to use)
  • Firebrand (ranked shells that requires a certain PvP Rating to use and Level 55)

In addition, expertise no longer have a diminishing returns but now have a cap (2018) that can be reached with a full set of Partisan/Conqueror gear (both gear sets have the same amount of expertise)

The cap for regular Warzone Commendations and Ranked Warzone Commendations remains the same with no weekly caps

  • 2750 for regular Warzone Commendations
  • 4500 for ranked Warzone Commendations

Differences between the Parisan/Conqueror gear and WH/EWH


Here are some comparison between the Partisan set vs War Hero and Conqueror set vs Elite War Hero. As you can see, there are more primary stats, more expertise, and different secondary stats.

Partisan vs War Hero

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Conqueror vs Elite War Hero

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Partisan


Costs & Expertise

Piece Warzone Commendations Expertise
Bracers 550 109
Relics 550 109
Belt 625 109
Ear 625 150
Implant 625 150
Boots 875 150
Gloves 875 150
Legs 975 150
Head 1075 150
Chest 1425 150
Mainhand 1550 191
Offhand 1550 191
Total* 12475 2018

*Remember that there are 2x Relic and Implant slots

Conqueror & Firebrand


Note: Every Conqueror piece requires the equivalent Partisan piece for exchange except for relics, implants and earpieces.

Conqueror

Piece Warzone Commendations Ranked Warzone Commendations Expertise
Bracers   1250 109
Relics 200 1425 109
Belt   1425 109
Ear 200 1425 150
Implant 200 1425 150
Boots   2000 150
Gloves   2000 150
Legs   2225 150
Head   2425 150
Chest   3200 150
Mainhand   3475 191
Offhand   3475 191
Total* 1000 28600 2018

*Remember that there are 2x Relic and Implant slots

Firebrand (Rated shells)

Piece PvP Rating Ranked Warzone Commendations
Bracers 1200 190
Relics - -
Belt 1200 215
Ear - -
Implant - -
Boots 1600 250
Gloves 1400 250
Legs 1800 280
Head 2100 305
Chest 2400 400
Mainhand - -
Offhand - -
  • Geldarion

    Even the Conqueror relics, earpieces, and implants require Partisan counterparts to trade in?

    • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

      Good catch, those don’t. I will make a note :)

      • Tomas Vorobjov

        Wait, you mean you will NOT need the counterparts, or that you WILL need them just as it is now.

        BTW, any idea whether will be able to trade the current WH, EWH for something. Or will the never-ending 28k rwz comms grind start again?

        • azMike

          It would seem that EA/BW thinks that gear grind id the best way to keep people busy. You apparently will never be able to relax and enjoy the fruits of your labor because EA/BW will delete or make your current fruit worthless.

          • Holybinch

            You realize that you’re talking about a game?
            Labour should not be mentioned. You’re playing PvP because you want to…

  • Lenius @ToFN

    So they made the new 61 mods much better than the old 63. I don’t get why they didn’t just make them 66 and 69. After all they did that for PvE gear (up to 72 even).

    • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

      Ya, exactly. Maybe it has something to do the new bolster system?

      • Lenius @ToFN

        I just think this might lead to some problems, because the Underworld hilts and barrels have a lot more weapon damage than their Conqueror counterparts. And I doubt that 68 Expertise on those pieces is enough to counter that difference.

        • Matt

          There is no diminishing returns on expertise now, only a hard cap. So removing any expertise from gear is a bad idea in 2.0.

          • Lenius @ToFN

            But does this mean that 1950 or 1882 (for dual wielders) is worse than losing a LOT of weapon damage compared to 2018 Expertise? I have my doubts. I’ll personally consider having 1678 Expertise with a PvE set bonus and a PvE hilt (or even a PvE off-hand armoring making it 1610 Expertise). I guess only testing will show if it’s worth it.

    • Yittlic @ BC

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      Does anybody know what crafting material drop these new 61,63 mods after reverse engineering? It’s important because a lot of people are farming warzones just because of molecular stabilizers droped from WH gear.0
      \
      Yittlic @ BC Alexander • a few seconds ago

      ^ This could be the reason that the PvP gear is rated 61 and 63, rather than up to 72 like the PvE gear…

      • Terrel

        Too bad for PvPers:-(

  • Murphy

    This is a huge help, thank you! It appears I should just start banking WZ and RWZ comms instead of wasting my money on soon to be obsolete EWH gear. Might as well bypass the Partisan Ears, Implants and Relics and go straight to the BIS Conqueror pieces… that’ll save nearly 2,000 WZ comms.

  • troldrik

    How do the new PvP relics look? the reduction in static power on the new PvE ones makes me wonder if PvP relic will be BiS once again.

    • http://twitter.com/iMaximusRex Rex

      The Top PvE Relic, using Dark Radiance as an example, has 98 Endurance, 32 Power, and the 264 dmg proc. The Top PvP Dark Radiance Relic has 78 Endurance, 109 Expertise, 18 Power and the proc is 202 damage.

      • Terrel

        and there is no Relic of boundless ages with 120power witch is imho BiS for healers and dd for pvp and even pve

  • Paweł Kasperek

    hmmm… so how does the pvp work now, is 50-54 relegated to the status of “sub-55″ or works as entire own bracket of levels? and what about “starter” sets? I assume that player with recruit gear that today has hard time against geared enemies would be even more easy prey for partisan-geared ones (or better), and there will be no (elite) war hero to buy?

    • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

      There isn’t elite war hero or war hero to buy. Not sure if we will get a starter set or if the new bolster system will take care of that.

  • Shuka

    hmm…what do i do with the WH i have ? can i return it and get Comeds like on pve gear ?!

    • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

      Don’t think so. Only ones you can turn in for warzone comms are battelemaster and champion unassembled pieces. You will still need WH for PvPing as you won’t get all of the partisan/conqueror stuff right away.

  • key-sha

    seems to me all that qq on the forums about stun stun and instance death whas heared by the defelopers,however if you see the difference in endurance i believe they went completly overboard on this one

  • key-sha

    thats instant not instance 8) sry

  • Lucas Screwlouse Babington

    Judging by what was said here: “With patch 2.0, War Hero and Elite War Hero PvP gear are no longer being sold.
    Partisan (L61 mods) – purchased with normal Warzone Commendations (Require Level 55 to use)”
    so….if Partisan will be on par with WH.. then fresh new pvp 50 will be screwed. At 50 you use the comms you have been collecting to start kitting up your toon in WH….by what ive read fresh pvp 50’s in 2.0 will then have to grind 5 extra levels to get the equivalent of WH (to ba able to wear it)

    • Logan Heitz

      But 50s are not going to be in the same pvp games as 55s. In 2.0 pvp will breakup between 10-30, 30-54, and 55.

      • Sam Darkmon

        30 – 54… sigh…

      • Guest

        30-54!? Do you have a source for that? A full elite war hero vs. a lvl 30 with no expertise is going to be a one shot battle.

        • http://twitter.com/Raansu86 Raansu

          No because bolster is going to be adding expertise in 2.0

  • Lucas Screwlouse Babington

    Or are they keeping WH and EWH in but able to buy with credits instead?…

    • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

      They are not keeping WH/EWH. Vendors are gone.

  • Xenyah

    Hello Dulfy

    Do you know all this 2.0-patch-information by having played on the Public Test Server?

    Thank you very much for generously summarizing and sharing all this data! :-)

    Xenyah

    • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

      yup :)

  • azMike

    What about those people who do NOT buy the expansion??? are they stuck with whatever level 50 gear they currently have. If I have some WH gear and there is no EWH vendor how do I upgrade???

    • Koji Ippiki

      Don’t think you can get to lvl 55 w/o expansion. So BIS will still be EWH pre lvl 55.

  • Alexander

    Does anybody know what crafting material drop these new 61,63 mods after reverse engineering? It’s important because a lot of people are farming warzones just because of molecular stabilizers droped from WH gear.

    • Yittlic @ BC

      ^ This could be the reason that the PvP gear is rated 61 and 63, rather than up to 72 like the PvE gear…

    • Alexander

      This new partisan gear drops usual molecular stabilizers. So, no more farming warzones for crafting materials.

    • Seftonite

      If they drop the ‘usual molecular stabilizers’ then you can still farm WZ for partisan gear to make the 27 mods (lvl 63)… am i right?

  • df

    WIll there be crafting scematic sets for the eleite war hero set? Like the battlemaster before?

    And what armor will I buy without the extension? Am I forced to buy the extension as a pvp-player???

  • Koji Ippiki

    They require lvl 55 to use, but can you only purchase them at lvl 55?

    • Matt

      This is a pretty important question. It is going to stink having capped comms at level 50 having nothing worth purchasing for 5 potentionally long levels. They should just leave the EWH vendors in the game purchasable for reg comms.

    • Scottie

      I can confirm that on the PTS, lvl 55 WZ gear is only purchasable at level 55.

    • Starkender

      Sorry for bringing this up again but as a f2p player I can’t
      poste this question in the forums so I was hoping to get an answer and/or help
      here.

      The question if the new pvp gear is only buyable at lvl 55
      or earlier is kind of important to me because I have already hoarded the max
      amount of comms and was originally intending to keep them until the patch
      launches and the spend them all on the new gear to get a nice head start. But
      if I can’t buy them from the start and only when I hit lvl 55 then spending my
      comms now and restocking via pvp matches as I level up sounds like the more
      intelligent course to me.

      Or am I seeing this wrong?

      • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

        Well it depends on what you want to do from 50-55. If you are leveling via Makeb, then you will hit 55 pretty quick and can buy the new Wz gear. If you are leveling from 50-55 via PvP then yes I would buy gear as you go as otherwise wz comms are just going to get wasted.

        • Starkender

          tank you

  • Jonathan

    Hey is there any changes to the PvP relics listed by chance?

  • Slinky

    Will our current comma carry over from now to be able to have a head start towards the new gear or will they require a new set of coms alltogether. For instance am I better to buy wh gear now or save the comms for when I hit 55

    • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

      Same set of comms

  • Scottie

    Just a note on the new bolster mechanic.

    I am really not a fan.

    They have changed the stats on PvP armor so that it is much less effective in PvE but then they turn around and decide to give ‘free’ expertise for people who queue for Warzones in PvE gear!

    I understand the desire to have players maintain two armor sets to track the progression in PvP and PvE separately, but they have ruined this by including expertise as part of the bolster mechanic; essentially massively favoring PvE progression over PvP gearing.

    Expertise clearly needs to be part of the bolster mechanic for the lower level brackets as people have level 50 expertise gear left over from before 2.0 (or simply remove expertise completely from all existing non-level 55 gear) but I don’t think there should be ANY form of bolster for max level PvP.

    Solution = Remove bolster completely from Lvl 55 warzones and add back in a set of ‘Recruit’ gear.

    Currently extremely unhappy with the thought of PvE gear being a viable PvP choice while at the same time making PvP gear under-powered in PvE content.

  • Starkender

    Dulfy,
    Could you please reconfirm this to me? The PVP lvl 55 armor
    is only buyable at lvl 55? And it will stay this way even when launched on live
    servers?
    That would mean hoarding
    commendations before the 2.0 launch would make less sense than just buying the
    best gear you can get right now and then restocking while leveling up to 55.
    Anyone disagree?

    • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

      Yes I can confirm that the new gear is only buyable at 55.

  • Ciridemarr

    Seems that pics posted here aren’t true anymore. ATM at PTS EWH gear and new Conqueror carry the same amount of Expertise (pic with comparision below).

    • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

      Oh yes they upped the expertise on wh and ewh, I will need to update those thanks

  • Konoha the Wiper

    what is Partisan vs Elite War Hero like

  • Janos

    nice page – but could you please make a page with the pvp stats like you did it here (http://dulfy.net/2013/02/21/swtor-arkanian-and-underworld-level-55-armor-statsinquisitorconsular/) for pve? Thank you!!

  • alonia

    Hey dulfy, can you tell me if in 2.0 we will still be able to buy the two pets and the mount (Longspur Recon) that are currently sold by the PVP vendors at the fleet? I wasn’t able to find any information concerning these items so I hope you could help me?

  • Herpnasty

    Very Helpful! Thanks Dulfy. Do you happen to know what is going on when you hit lvl 50 (or 55 as the new cap)? Does your “new to the cap” charicter get a set of Starter (*Insert new name here*) PVP and/or PVE Gear like they currently do with “Recruit” and Tionese?

    I am quickly lvl-ing a slinger and I am wondering if I can race to hit 50….. get the free Tionese gear (use the comms since you get nothing for them at 2.0 launch)… then get another set at 55

    • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

      Don’t think there is a starter set at 55.

  • Steven

    So, can I do anything with the battlemaster gear and the few wh pieces I have? Do I trade them in or are they even worth anything?

    • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

      Can’t trade them in. They are pretty worthless now. Use them to pvp before you get the new L55 pvp gear I guess

  • Kate

    Any chance of some coverage about the actual changes TO pvp? I know I’m confused right now, because people seem to think going naked below 55 actually works best.

  • Rob

    Where can I find Advanced Armorings 28x NPC vendor?

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  • venom90

    wish they remove the whole pvp gear thing. it’s a but unfair for us pve’s

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