Vertical progression once again… Bioware’s conception of game progression is gonna get old very fast if they can’t introduce a bit of horizontality in their future updates…

What is wrong with vertical progression? How is it going to get old if you never complete the content? I for one know on my server, very few guilds had downed EC Nightmare and TFB HM before the 2.0 release. Now, they’ve managed to maybe squeeze in EC NiM, but since TFB HM is scaled, they are having some issues with it (I’m guessing just not knowing the mechanics).

But the release of TFB NiM and S&V NiM I think is an excellent add-on, as well as rewarding top guilds who can complete the content a set of superior armor/weapons. Reason being is that it is SO incredibly easy to get gear since 2.0. They were handing it out. And yeah, maybe not everyone had Underworld gear, but they can easily get 72 equivalent, it’s a joke.

I’m glad they have noted their mistake and hopefully the Kell Dragon gear and non-set bonus set as well will be more like Dread Guard / Hazmat when it debuted with TFB release.

Nevermind I saw in PTS notes that they are REable….

To those saying it is too soon, for most of us we have been in TFB for just over 9 months and are dead sick of the place. Also, this tier of content has been ridiculously easy even for our non-bleeding edge guild.

If you are doing 16 man you need only like 1500 to 1600 dps minimum to clear that content (thats REALLY low btw, our average is 2k with top dps getting on average of 2400) and on 8 man its only 1800… you could hit those numbers in 63s. So then its just not being stupid… on pretty damn easy mechanics. Kill the adds + dont stand in fire + burn the boss = win.

Again, coming from a middle tier skilled guild… If we have cleared it, I would wager half of POT5 has cleared it (of the semi-serious raiders)…

844 of Force/tech power on main/offhand ? We have 1006 in 72…

The only classes that benefit from these relics 100% are Tanks classes, cause for some reason Bioware seem to love to stack Endurance on these relics. The %percentage every 20 seconds ratio will never beat a 1st or 2nd stat that is available full time. I purposely purchased PVP relic’s before 2.0 for my main and all my alts cause they have main stat benefits that you can’t find anymore.