SWTOR Cartel Market Sale from May 30 to June 1

SWTOR Cartel Market will be having a sale from May 30 to June 1 on a bunch of packs, including some embargoed ones. These packs will be 28% OFF.

Incoming Cartel Market Sale | 05.29.2014, 10:34 PM

Hey folks,
I wanted to let you know about a sale coming to the Cartel Market this weekend!

When?
Friday, May 30th at 8AM Central – Sunday, June 1st at 8AM Central
What?
The following Hypercrates:

  • Hypercrate: Crime Lord’s Cartel Pack
  • Hypercrate: Galactic Ace’s Starfighter Pack
  • Hypercrate: Opportunist’s Bounty Pack
  • Hypercrate: Hotshot’s Starfighter Pack
  • Hypercrate: Blockade Runner’s Cartel Pack
  • Hypercrate: Vice Commandant’s Contraband Pack
  • Hypercrate: Space Jockey’s Starfighter Pack
  • Hypercrate: Enforcer’s Contraband Pack
  • Hypercrate: Dogfighter’s Starfighter Pack

How Much?
Each of these Hypercrates will be 28% off. I know what you’re thinking, 28%?! That’s a strange number. The reason that they are 28% is that at that discount they end up being exactly 5500 Cartel Coins, meaning they can be bought in a single purchase.
You may also notice that some of these are embargoed packs so make sure to log in and get them while they’re around.
Thanks everyone.
-eric

  • Jeid

    Money grabbing scheme if I’ve ever seen one ;)

    • y2z

      Just like when they re-released all this stuff back in March. They’re making it hard to get prices up on gtn again. I’ve got too much stuff to offload as it is.

      • Havik79

        Good, I hope all the embargo stuff come back to shut up you greedy sellers.

        • BM

          But the problem is that it destroys the value of CC vs credits, when the supply gets to high. If you push it to far and people cant sell the packs etc they buy because nobody needs any of it or its not worth buying stuff with cc cuz the credit value is so devalued, alot less people will spend real money on CC.

          • Chakra Kusanagi

            Actually, the cc-credit value has always stayed at around 1cc=1000credits.

            You can’t put a cc to credit value on things from the packs since you didn’t pay a fixed price for the item you are selling (unless you are selling the pack iself).

            Besides, if you think prices are bad right now, just wait a few months and they’ll be up again… problem is that most sellers are too greedy and too impatient.

            • y2z

              Some are (and I’ll usually take advantage of their low prices). But it gets difficult to re-sell when the embargoed pack returns at Xmas, then in March in a special release pack, then again in May. I’m sure these re-release sales are good profit but is it really more then if they didn’t embargo the old packs at all and just left them available all the time, even if it was only the hypercrates? At least then the market could stabilize a bit and the people who really want a chance at the old stuff can take that gamble if they prefer.

      • BM

        I agree, I have no problem with BW trying to make alot of money, but can they do it releasing new stuff and stop destroying the economy.

      • Chakra Kusanagi

        If you need to offload stuff, then lower your prices…

    • Dragon

      Of course it is! In case you haven’t noticed, BioWare and EA are businesses. What do businesses do? Make money while providing a service or goods. Don’t like it? Don’t buy it.

      • Josef Tauser

        No one is buying them, that’s why there is a sale. Its a method of discovering the right price at which people will start to buy them.

        • Okamakiri

          If nobody is buying them, why is BW making twice as much profit from the cash shop as they are from the subs?

          Now if the sales are currently lower than normal, then that’s probably because the game as a whole is experiencing lower population then normal. That’s what happens when you fail to release meaningful content in a timely fashion, while other MMOs are being released at the same time.

          • Josef Tauser

            “why is BW making twice as much profit from the cash shop as they are from the subs?”

            You can’t possibly know that. Bioware doesn’t publish that information on a game-by-game basis, just a company wide total.

            • Okamakiri

              They actually did. In 2013 they made $139 mill from micro transactions alone. Even at a generous number of 500k subs, that’s at most 500k * $15 * 12 = $90 mill for the year from subs.

              • Josef Tauser

                SWTOR is NOT the only source of micro transactions for EA. EA Sports is a huge source of their microtransactions.

              • Okamakiri

                Sigh… The $139 mill is specifically from SWTOR micro transactions…

              • Ravenschild

                Having read the updated article which doesn’t say how much they made (just that they made less than 213 mil) and some random guys comments without a source (the other point linked) It obviously brought in more than Team Fortress 2 which brought in 139 mil and SWTOR brought in a little more than that. Is that 140mil,139.5 mil etc. Yes it is making money and that’s a good thing. although why we haven’t seen any updated class storyline nor an announcement of such with those kind of numbers is kind of odd.

          • Sciclex

            Quote: If nobody is buying them, why is BW making twice as much profit from the cash shop as they are from the subs?

            It’s due to the fact they chased away a lot of current and potential subscribers because of their current content release schedule/strategy (who were also a big percentage of the original CM purchases) not because the CM is the most up to date content they have. Don’t get me wrong, people like to look pretty and be flashy, but when you’re designing a game for an MMO community your main goal should be to market it toward the MMO player. It seems they went the route of marketing toward the casual gamer market once the old development team embarked and they had to keep it going for profit’s sake. “IMO” they lost sight of what the game was originally intended to be and have alienated their original supporters and initial investors. It’s tough to keep your company image looking good when you make decisions like that.

            • Okamakiri

              I would agree with what you’re saying with respect to content they’ve been releasing for the past half a year, and it’s why I unsubbed last month. But the figure I was referring to was the $139 mill form micro transactions in 2013. I imagine both sub and micro transactions profits are currently down due to the reasons I stated in the post you replied to.

        • Chakra Kusanagi

          That reasoning only works with physical products that take up space and count as a locked-down investement.
          This is digital goods… it takes up no space and is costing the company no money whatsoever.
          If nobody was buying them, the best response would be to make new ones with better items… not putting the old ones on sale.

    • anon

      At least its not massive single item rotating sale like the last one; prices on those items are still less than half their pre-sale value on my server.

    • iceberg265

      Because no business ever puts items on sale to try to increase sales.

      • Jeid

        I understand if the business sells items you can actually touch, but random digital content… they don’t have to manufacture it every time, do they? ;)

        • iceberg265

          What exactly does that have to do with anything? By that logic businesses that engage in services instead of selling goods would not be allowed to make a profit either since they don’t have to manufacture it every time.

    • Kylmc

      Yeah, those filthy animals! Trying to make money! Screw them!

    • Chakra Kusanagi

      Apparantly you never have…

    • Jericho

      This game sucks now there is absolutely nothing to do & i don’t know why people even play it anymore other than for the love of the SW franchise. Bioware should never try making an MMO again because they are horrible at it and it takes them a year to come up with a few hours of new gameplay. Everyone at Bioware should just admit that they have nothing more to offer anyone with this game and quit keeping the game going based entirely on cosmetics.

  • TJWoo

    Meh…make them 2000cc, then we’ll talk.

    • Chakra Kusanagi

      So you think each individual pack should cost 83cc?

      Because these are hypercrates we are talking about… 24 crates in each…

      • Josef Tauser

        83cc seems about right; I mean individually they only sell for ~250k Credits on the galactic trade network.

        • Chakra Kusanagi

          They sell for 350k to 450k on my server. (and that’s the price I’ve heard on all other servers too)
          And converted to CC using the average cc-to-credits level on my server that would be 350-450cc per pack.
          Considering that a normal hypercrate costs you 7000cc (6900+, but I’ll average up) that would be a cost of 291cc per crate.
          So they are, in fact, selling for more than they are “worth” in credits.
          Not to mention the fact that the embargoed ones will sell for alot more if you hold on to them a bit.

          Now, pricing them at 83cc should indicate that they sell for 83.000 credits on the GTN, and that’s just not true.
          Y’all are just too cheap to pay the price, admit it.

          • Josef Tauser

            Brand new packs sell for 350-450k. Packs no one wants sell for ~250k. Of all the hypercrates only the ones with hover chairs, hover thrones, and Revan pieces are in demand.

            • Chakra Kusanagi

              So buy the ones that sell… you can’t use the lowest price to make a broad statement about the crates.
              Besides, 250k is still 3 times the going rate for CC if the crates were priced at 83cc each…

              • Josef Tauser

                Its still tricky to calculate a going rate since cartel coins cost real money and credits are free.

              • Chakra Kusanagi

                The going rate is easily calculated by looking at what the price on GTN is for items that are direct purchase.
                The fact that CC cost real money and credits are free doesn’t play into it.

  • e^3

    Never bought a Hypercrate. And never will. Greedy BioWare.

    • iceberg265

      Yes how dare they put items on sale to try to entice people to buy them.

    • Okamakiri

      I’ve never bought a Hypercrate either (or even a single crate), but I don’t have a problem with BW selling them, or anything else in the Cartel store for that matter. A F2P game has to make money somehow.

      However, given all the profits they’re making from the Cartel store, I think they really should relax all the restrictions they have on the F2P players. In fact, I think the game would be a lot healthier and have a lot more players (and more Cartel store shoppers) if they just get rid of the sub and unlock the game fully. A game of SWTOR’s quality completely free would attract massive numbers of people, including those that stubbornly refuse to pay a sub, but then proceed to dump more than a sub’s worth in a cash shop every month.

      • TJWoo

        While I don’t think they should necessarily eliminate the subs from the game, I do agree they should relax some of the restrictions on F2P. I view F2P as more casual gamers, or hardcore, but playing multiple MMOs at once. I think the new MMO business model has to take into account that a large percentage of the player base is playing other games at the same time.

        Subs provide a dedicated revenue stream. I know subs who haven’t played SWTOR in months but stay subbed for the cartel coins. When they come back those are the ONLY coins they spend. SWTOR needs all the money it can get before they shut us down in the next 2-3 years when a shinier new SW MMO gets released not set in the Old Republic era. There. I said it – because it’s going to happen.

        • Okamakiri

          If they run the game right, there is no reason why it should shut down in 2-3 years. WoW’s going strong approaching its 10yr anniversary. EVE’s as solid as ever. Ton of smaller niche MMOs are pushing past a decade. You don’t shut down a product that brought in over $200 mill in 2013. You look at how to improve it so it can bring in even more.

          • TJWoo

            I hope you’re right, but this IS Disney and EA we’re talking about. It’s also Star Wars. Comparing SWTOR to WoW is like apples to oranges both in terms of its impact on the MMO community and revenue generated. WoW STILL makes probably $200m a MONTH and it’s been out for 10 years! So comparisons to more niche MMOs might be more relevant, except…

            The problem for SWTOR is that not only is it owned by an especially greedy and short-sighted company (EA) but also that this company has an exclusive game agreement with SW IP owner Disney. Both companies will be exploiting the franchise as much as they can with the release of new SW movies set many thousands of years after the Old Republic universe. That means a new SW MMO, and I’m sure it’s already in at least the pre-planning stages if not well under way.

            How then to maximize revenue for the inevitable new MMO? Cancel the old one! They know many of us will migrate over, and for those that don’t, there will be a couple million new customers interested in the new MMO to replace the couple hundred thousand they lost. But until that announcement happens I know people will say “oh this will live on for 10-15 years or more!”

            Maybe we’ll get lucky and Disney/EA will say, “oh we can let both MMOs exist together and they’ll make us lots of money.” This is very doubtful.

            • TJWoo

              The other reason I think Disney will shut this down is because I’m not sure they’re making much/any money off of it. Disney acquired the franchise but it’s possible all of the revenue, save maybe some licensing fees, goes to Bio/EA. See their approach to LucasArts.

              • Chakra Kusanagi

                Disney is making money off this for sure… first off, they didn’t pay any of the money that went into the development of the game, so this is just pure revenue for them.
                Secondly, they have no other games that compete with this right now so there is no worries about losing out on competition within the franchise.

                IF they make another star wars MMO, then there might be some notion of them shutting down SW:TOR, but I’m not sure they would unless the next MMO takes place in the old republic too.

              • TJWoo

                Right now they don’t. My timeframe puts the new SW MMO at 2-3 years.

              • Chakra Kusanagi

                What’s your point?

              • TJWoo

                Enjoy the next 2-3 years of SWTOR. Oh and that people that think Disney/EA is working on SWTOR 2 are supremely delusional.

              • Chakra Kusanagi

                I do believe I will enjoy my next 2-3 years of SW:TOR (or more)
                Oh and people who think they know anything about what Disney/EA are going to do in the future are supremely delusional (including those who think they know what they are NOT going to do)

              • TJWoo

                I’ll make a bet with you that
                1.) Disney/EA make a new SW MMO within the next 5 years (prob 2-3) and
                2.) The new SW MMO is NOT based on the Old Republic universe. Remember this conversation, because you read it here :P

              • ucftimm

                Disney killed everything outside of the movies as canon. They will want games relevant to the new movies not 4000 years in the past. This game at most has 3 years. Just look at how much content we got last year to how they are releasing content this year. They are milking us to fund the new mmo not to create new content for this game. Everything that is being released for this game is what was left from original design team. That is probably the delay for the new content so they can stretch what is left to give them time to get the new mmo up while still making loads of cash off this game with little effort on EA/Bioware’s end.

              • Chakra Kusanagi

                I’ve never stated otherwise.
                But you are making statements as if they were fact, and they are not.

              • TJWoo

                I don’t think anyone posting on these forums needs to qualify their statements with “in my opinion….” That would be extraneous language as it’s already implied. Obviously I don’t speak for EA/Disney, and if I did, I wouldn’t be doing it here.

              • Chakra Kusanagi

                “SWTOR needs all the money it can get before they shut us down in the next 2-3 years when a shinier new SW MMO gets released not set in the Old Republic era. There. I said it – because it’s going to happen.”

                There you go, opinion disguised as fact.
                Those types of statements do need to be prefaced by “in my opinion” because they will be taken as you stating something as a fact.

              • TJWoo

                You just enjoy being argumentative. Re-read last comment.

              • Chakra Kusanagi

                I read your comment and I don’t agree.

    • Chakra Kusanagi

      Yeah, fuck those greedy bastards! Letting you play the game for free, such arrogance! They should PAY YOU to play the game…

      • e^3

        I’m a subscriber (since relase, never paused my subscription, so STFU), three is nothing for free.

        • Green Mann

          Ya! Is nothing for free!……

        • Chakra Kusanagi

          But you CAN play the game for free… you simply CHOSE to subscribe.

  • iceberg265

    I love how this is a post about items going on sale and some people’s first thoughts are “hurpadurp bioware so greedy I hate them”.

  • Truth

    Laughing at all the criticism of Bioware/EA trying to “make money”. The nerve!!!!! A business trying to make money!!!! I thought this was a charity! Lol.

    • Sataanael

      Internet communists ^^

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DarthRavan2012 Kevin Brennan

    Hope they make enough to release some decent new PvE Content without having to use the same Voice Actor because i’m really getting sick of having to hear that guy’s Voice from Huttball over and over again. Not that he is a bad Voice Actor but he has been used way to many times.

    • Chakra Kusanagi

      It’s not a question of money… He has been a favourite of biowares for years.

    • Randomno

      Steve Blum

  • Heist 101

    I have a feeling that there is a slightly higher chance of a rare if u let the timers finish.. A while ago I bought 2 hypercrates and opened them just after I purchased them and got about 1.5 mil back for each hypercrate by meticulously undercutting prices for 2 weeks, but I purchased just 1 pack from the GTN (boe/finished bind timer) and landed a cathar honor sword – sold it for 6.5 mil that day.

    • Trogdor

      I just bought my last bounty pack last night. I bought them all from the GTN (mostly tracker packs for 150k-250k ea). I don’t know exactly how many packs it took, but I bought enough packs to get legend with BSC and ~25 cartel market certificates. Notable loot: 1 meditation chamber, 2 or 3 varactyls and 1 morlinger, plus the usual minor loot of armor, weapons, crystals, etc.

  • Unoshi

    People need to stop complaining about Cartel Market as its the only reason why SWTOR is still running, 2013 they made 137 Million of Cartel Market only, not counting Subs, If CM wouldnt be here, the amount of Subs BW would have, probbebly wouldnt keep it alive as Lucas Arts is not funding BW anymore as he sold the rights to Disney, Ea has a 10 year license on SWTOR but they are not helping BW in anyway but just to keep making them make more items for CM to keep it running.

    As A F2P game its not a strange thing to have a market like CM in, GW2 Golden lion market, Neverwinter, Rift etc. if you would like BW to stop stuff with CM i would advise u to start looking for a different game in advance cause it wouldnt last long before shutdown.

    Also dont get me wrong i understand not everyone is able to afford CC but then again, the fewer people that can afford CC and buy this “over priced” items on CM buy multiple items so they do make up for the ones that cant afford it. So i dont see BW lowering the prices anytime soon, besides these sales they giving away.

    • SpideyBry

      Where did you get the 137M number? Is that US dollars? I would not think Bioware would release those numbers. Not saying you’re wrong, I’m just curious what the source of those numbers is.

      • Unoshi
        • SpideyBry

          Thanks for taking the time to look it up. :-) Very interesting.

          • Unoshi

            you’re welcome, wanted to find it for myself again to confirm it.

        • Josef Tauser

          Yeah, cause a random forum post based on absolutely no data can’t possibly be wrong.

          • Unoshi

            did i say, its 100% correct? No sir i didn’t. But knowing the things i stated i highly doubt the numbers are far off at al

          • Chakra Kusanagi

            Actually that’s not a random forum post… all of those link to superdatas information which is considered pretty reliable in the business.

      • Josef Tauser

        They don’t release the numbers. Anything you read is a random estimate made on a random forum post.

  • Mike

    Unoshi BW pairoll?

    • Chakra Kusanagi

      Mike Blizzard pairoll?

      Sheesh, what a stupid notion… just because someone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean they are on the payroll of someone…

      • Unoshi

        Lol i wish i was on a payroll of BW or Blizzard XD

        • Chakra Kusanagi

          Heh, me too… unemployment sucks :(

          • Unoshi

            haha, Hear Hear!

  • SirRobinII

    Going to buy my first hypercrate, which has the best items ?

  • Edward T. Riker

    Exclusive pic of Bioware/EA brainstorm room for SWTOR:

    http://www.onrpgblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/CowMilkingContest.jpg

    • Chakra Kusanagi

      Saying that EA is milking the playerbase implies that the players have no choice in the matter and that they HAVE to spend money on the cartel market.
      And we both know that’s not true.

      • Edward T. Riker

        We are not milking the remaining players with fluff, playerbase is strong and subs keeps the game healthy.

        http://actionchurch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/obi-wan.jpg

        • Chakra Kusanagi

          More bullshit from you… fine, believe what you want but my server sure doesn’t seem empty and they made 139 million off of the cartel market alone last year.

          • Rhandom911

            Someone failed at getting the joke….

            • Chakra Kusanagi

              Hardly, it’s not funny when people find it insulting.

              • Edward T. Riker

                My 15 likes vs your 5 says: …you are wrong.
                Check torstatus.net for some real update about servers.
                Dude I feel your pain, I play this game too, but only because is the only SW mmo left, like 90% of the players still being milked by EA.
                Launch other SW mmo, and the servers will go empty faster than SWTOR failed to F2p.
                Star Wars is the only thing that keeps this game running, the game is boring, cant attract new players and is just about right click on barrels and kill 15 dudes/robots. Is so casual that hurts to play more than 15 mins, queues for PVP takes ages and any form of competitive game is killed by EAware needs from cash.
                Swtor is the Fisherprice Mmo but we love Star Wars and are kidnaped by this losers.

              • Chakra Kusanagi

                Really? because there are around 1.000.000.000 more people in china than there are in the US so that must mean that communism is better than capitalism…
                Pupularity does not make one right.

                The game certainly attracts new players as evidenced by the threads that pop up every week on the forums by new players and the fact that I have plenty of people that have used my refer a friend link and are now subs.

                Nobody is milking anyone here. Nothing on the Cartel Market is forced upon players. It’s all completely optional.

                Just because you (and 15 other people) don’t like the game doesn’t mean it’s not a good game. It just means that your opinion is different than mine.

              • Godrick

                I agree with both of you here tbh. The quality of content as of late has been abysmal to say the least. I played from the beginning and slowly they have done less and less with it. Completely crashing the rare dye market was another thing they did to make a quick buck. We all know why this sale happened anyway there was an mmo launch that weekend and I don’t know who thought encouraging players to spend money on fluff that’s been out for ages was a good deterrent from the competition. This has been a common theme as of late I have felt and so I no longer play as there’s nothing compelling to keep me. Ok I might miss a cartel pack. It it’ll be bk in a couple of months so no loss. Also at this rate from their financial reports that they’ve been releasing the cm money is coming primarily from subs which they have also admitted but subs are still on the decline. So yes we aren’t forced to buy fluff from the cm but if the player base doesn’t then swtor won’t be around for long.

                Swtor needs an actual cash investment I feel with actual content coming out. Raiding with the sakes raids is ridiculous by any standards especially with the competition. They need to get subs back yet they ain’t putting in the effort to fix it and if they don’t swtors future won’t be looking too good. I really love swtor but in its current state it’s just too sad to see it be left to waste its potential. Yes I am aware of the housing expansion but that’s is an excuse to add more stuff to the cm most content released will be with profit intentions now :(

              • iceberg265

                Justin Beiver has millions and millions of more likes than Tupac on youtube, does that mean his music is better? World of Warcraft, the most successful MMO ever as far as sub numbers go, has pretty close to the exact same retention rate. Your argument is invalid.

                If you hate the game so much, stop posting about it and let the rest of us play in peace.

    • iceberg265

      I get that you are bitter about the game but seriously? They put things ON SALE and you go on temper tantrum about them milking?

  • thetechnocrat

    Cool, nice to see the older packs getting a push back into the market. It would be nice if they discounted to be 2750 per. That would bring in a ton more cash and buzz for them.

  • Honza Hladík

    where did the “tanking republic” tuts went???

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