SWTOR SDCC Story Panel shows the fate Darth Malgus

If you are wondering what happened to Darth Malgus, this clip from the San Diego Cantina Tour may have some answers. Clip taken from @iamwillgriggs and @Heather_Pls.

Important Update. SWTOR Lead Writer Charles Boyd just commented on twitter the Malgus part was cut from the trailer and he may not be returning after all (fate uncertain).

Video Clip taken from @iamwillgriggs

Concept Art taken from @Heather_Pls.

Here are some pics of the rest of the story panel presentation, taken from the twitter accounts of @Heather_PLS, @UnholyAlliances, @iamwillgriggs and @Zoro4Me3 and compiled by Jerba/Theho.

  • Atohiowas

    *blink* *blink* Uh……….bawha?

  • Rebel Scum

    Well… I just crapped my pants… XD

  • King Thane

    Why do i get the feeling he is going 2 be in an up coming cartel pack?

    • BrianDavion

      …. if not they totally should. thats a brilliant idea!

  • Dakhath

    Dear Bioware: dead characters should stay dead.

    • DarkSnakesoul

      Technically there isn’t any proof that he died. He was a powerful sith and the flashpoint (originally) forced you to push him off a platform into his doom but we all know how falling from great heights as a sith or jedi doesn’t always lead to their deaths…they just end up grabbing on to something or landing safely on the ground.

      • sweet

        indeed, was kind of disappointing when they removed the mechanic (or rather not made it the only was to defeat him). anywho, AWESOOOMMME, i loved him while vling when i made my 1st sith &was kind of sad when i defeated him. wonder what role he’ll play in the new empire

        • SnakeSoul

          The Mechanic is still there, they just added the option to kill him outright now but you can still throw him off the platform. But yeah to me out of all the characters I like Malgus the most, the novels help build his character out a bit more connecting the trailer and games together and his point of view wasn’t so bad (kind of wish I could join him) where all races are accepted into the Empire and to truly destroy the Republic and not to be held back by politics.

        • Unoshi

          Like snake said the mechanics are still there, they just made it allowable to kill him without pushing him off, reasons, bugs, bugs, bugs. So instead of countless wipes with pushing him off that didnt work correctly, they made it so, you could kill him without.

  • Pak

    thats really kephess

    • Duh


  • Socknboppers

    I’m actually really happy about this, Republic got to keep their flagship character (Shan) but ours we had to kill and replace with Marr. Maybe he’ll be a companion? Or lead a new age of the Empire after the story? Either way.

  • Alek

    (Still need new endgame content)

  • teehee

    i like that he’s waving :’D *waves bk*

  • EyesOfGehenna .

    oh another person who died but didn’t…yawn. Please BW try something different for a change instead of just ressurrecting everyone.

    • Dakhath

      But then they might have to create NEW characters and be creative or something. We wouldn’t want that.

    • Sunshine

      bringing bk revan was a poor idea for an expansion since he was clearly defeated &he already had his time in kotors &swtor fps. also poor script &voice acting. but… i did like malgus, he was such a powerful character &the empire felt so empty after he got shafted. anyway, i don’t mind…

      • Unoshi

        Yes, i would take Malgus resurrection over Revan everyday!

        • swtorkotfeheheohoho

          yeah but revan would tear malgus a new asshole

          • Unoshi

            probably without a doubt, but was still way cooler then Revan, in the game at least.

            • swtorkotfeheheohoho

              i agree lol revan in this game is lame…… still hoping we get more of his force ghost later…. until vitiate is completly dealt with i dont want force revan to dissapear for good

              though malgus coming back is exciting me cause im thinking he might be a companion :]
              hopefully not a enemy working for the new empire

              • Unoshi

                Idd, might see Vitiate and Force ghost Revan pop up at a later stage.

                Malgus might be an enemy at first, but guessing depending on our choices, it will determined if he will stay an enemy or ally in the long run

          • DarthTedious

            revan lacks personality, just plain boring in swtor

    • Rex

      Blame the fans who keep demanding it loudly as much as BioWare. Before they were brought back if you said they were dead on the forums the fans would take out a fatwa on you.

  • Jo


  • RKS

    Bet those bald kids are his clones.

    • sadas

      They’re Valkorion’s.

      • Tom

        That could have been a lie/misinformation spread by kephess

  • Andre

    Oh come on… did bioware fired every competent writer they had? Who will we get resurected next time?
    The more information i have about the new expansion the less i like it:-/

    • Dakhath

      I’m in the same boat. It sounded interesting but they keep revealing some stupid things.

    • cutiepie

      well, they are introducing quite a few new characters, they probably wanted to play a bit safe as well, since malgus was beloved by many; hollywood does it all the time &it works for them (on the cash side anyway)

      • Andre

        They are and they should stick to them. I just hope they will have some depth in them and they will not be just shallow archetypal characters. I personaly like Malgus. I alwyas wanted to join him in fp:-). But dead charaters or charcters implied as dead just should stay dead.
        Well if it works for hollywood… good for it i guess. I honestly can not say last time when i saw something produced in hollywood. They usualy produce films i have no interest in.

    • BrianDavion

      except one of the devs back in Vanilla strongly hinted he wasn’t dead

      • Andre

        Then i had to miss it somehow.

    • Xargaa

      The mystery of Malgus’ fate has been unresolved for a while now. The original mechanics was to push him down the shaft Episode 6 style, which as we have seen with Maul and Sidious, doesn’t work so well 🙂

      • Andre

        I know the original mechanics. I have been playing for a few years. The mechanic on itself was interesting but copying something a find lazy.
        And do not even start with Maul and Sidious with me. Resurecting clearly dead villain because you can not invent new and interesting villain i consider not just lazy but a crime against a reader. The reason for resurecting him usualy is not because the author has a new interesting tale to tell, but because he run out of ideas and he still wants to milk the cash cow. I just find it abhorent and if some author do that, he is as good as dead to me. I will never support him by buying his follow up work.
        sorry for the rant:-)

  • p4v7

    Malgus, Marr, Darth Nox and the Empire’s Wrath… the Zakuul Empire don’t stand a chance.

    • Corvus6

      Does Marr survive the time skip?

      • Ree

        Has not been confirmed yet. But I see no reason why not, he’s a popular character.

  • Mallacath

    I’m sure that Darth Malgus will be upset that there are no new ops!

    • Mel

      nah, look at the trailers, he’s obviously a pvp’er :p ^^

      • Random Lightning Spec

        Then he will be even MORE upset.

        • Mel

          xD probably, when he’ll see where warriors stand on the leaderboads :’)

  • SnakeSoul

    I’m happy to see him return, however do we know he is back for sure and not just a slab of frozen meat just for us to fight a evil unknown boss dude to get as a trophy to put up on our stronghold wall.

    If he does return I wouldn’t mind to be honest, I liked his character and was rather disappointed he became a enemy and a flashpoint boss (rather have him as a operation boss). I just hope he returns as a quest giver/ally instead of a enemy because having to face him again would be rather annoying then a plus side to these events. I wouldn’t be angry over characters being resurrected as long as the reason/proof is somewhat believable, there is so many star wars characters in novels (no longer canon) that were suppose to be dead but came back and then you had Darth Maul return in clone wars cartoon (which wasn’t so bad as they gave the proof of his survival) and now they are talking about Mace Windu coming back to join one of the movies…so yeah it’s not a BW thing…it’s starwars.

  • Random Lightning Spec

    There are so many loose ends in this game… Malgus was NOT one of them. *groan*

    Marr > Malgus any day.

    • Darth

      ^ This!
      Imperial Intelligence: This message is in to way sponsored by team Marr!

  • Darth

    So… That’s cool and all, not like we didn’t see it coming though. What bugs me, however, is that so far Bioware’s approach to this supposedly great new story that’s coming our way has been limited to virtually EVERYONE (all the player characters and apparently now key NPCs as well) in the game being suddenly carbonited. Do we even have that much carbonite in the galaxy? Is this new “Eternal Empire’s” claim to fame a new blaster setting kill/stun/CARBONITE? lol

    I guess my point is: so far I am not very impressed. They seem to either not be revealing the good parts yet or if this is the extend of it then I must say they clearly lack creativity.

    • Xargaa

      only about 9-10 people have been confirmed being frozen in carbonite. That is plausible.

      • Corvus6

        Who’s been confirmed?

        • Vriff

          All eight of the galactic heroes and Malgus thus far.

          • Corvus6

            Ah damn, was hoping one was Marr.

            • Equeliber

              Heh, Marr will be ok. Older but I bet he will still be da boss of Empire 🙂

        • Xargaa

          Malgus, the 8 heroes, and I *think* Nico Okarr. But most likely the 8 heroes and Malgus. I’m only like 35% sure Okarr was said to be in carbonite

          • DragonWhimsy

            The 8 heroes only count as one. As all of them simply count as “the outlander”.

      • Jason Rye

        The 300 or so Taris officials and the dude you rescue in a Hutta planet quest.

    • Silverstar

      When Solo got carbonized in TESB they weren’t sure it would work, that it was safe to do with people. It was more or less an experiment. Yet in TOR it’s the most common way to capture someone apparently.

      • Rex

        Obviously it fell out of style in the 3000+ years between the two events.

    • michael furious

      My guess is, that this cult used the false Revan and his ’empire’ to make connections that were key to displacing the major powers in play at that time – a sort of cult hiding in a cult.

      When the time was right, i.e. the battle between the Revanites and the Empire/Republic had done it’s most damage, they strike, and capture/kill as many key figures as possible. This is why your characters and major NPC’s will start off frozen in carbonite. Which is a pretty generous conceit for this new enemy to make for us, frankly.

  • idnewton

    First Darth Maul, then Darth Sidious, then Rahm Kota, now Malgus too? People in the Star Wars universe need to stop trying to kill force wielders with long-distance falls. It *clearly* doesn’t work LOL

    • Jord

      What if we tried to kill a non-force wielder with a long-distance fall?

      …Would they then become force sensitive and then make a return?

      • Silverstar


      • Unoshi

        hahaha, lol good one

      • Mark E. DeSade

        Boba Fett confirmed as force user.

    • Rex

      Don’t forget Luke Skywalker in ESB.

      • reyn

        so is this mean mace windu is alive too?

        • Ste Davies

          Maybe but he will have one hell of a tan from that lightning.

          • Equeliber

            Wasn’t he already tanned?

            • Ste Davies

              Could become more tanned?

        • Rex

          No, he didn’t fall down a shaft.

  • Random Lightning Spec

    Seriously though, did our player characters ever actually kill ANYONE in a flashpoint?

    Is Kilran also coming back?

    • SnakeSoul

      Well the original mechanics for Malgus fight was to push him off the platform, they changed it to allow players to kill him directly due to some really weird glitches, even one that lead to him not moving or getting stuck which prevent him getting pushed off but the mechanic is still there just most prefer to kill him outright (a lot faster).

      Beside Malgus, everyone we face we had to directly attack them which should mean they are truly dead. I can’t think of any other bosses we had to push off a platform of crush with a object to beat them…

      • Unoshi

        But yes, his push of bridge reminded me of Maul, who appeared in the animated show, so guess we should not be surprised

  • Vriff

    Is there a stream of this up or anything?

    • SnakeSoul

      I don’t think so, just guests there taking information and posting them for us to see.

  • Aureliuss

    I had suspicions that Malgus did not really die when I first went through that Flashpoint. My thought was “They can’t seriously be getting rid of the Face of swtor so early” Now after these years, it is confirmed. Malgus is alive. Long Live The Emperor.

    • SnakeSoul

      ….I hate the Emperor…he tried to eat me…Long Live the Empire but not the Emperor..he can stay dead

      • Unoshi

        Not Emperor Vitiate. But Malgus who proclaimed his self the new Emperor of the New Empire. That last a day or so. well, kind of made its transition into ours.

        unless something something.. then i said nothing

        • Aureliuss

          Someone remembers!

  • Brianac

    Wowwww.. so he will probably be back in the new story!

  • SeekerLancer

    I loved the groans of disgust from the crowd.

    • cheerio

      oh my, u need to work on your ability to recognize other people’s emotions and feelings

      • SeekerLancer

        A few seconds later there was some clapping and cheering but the initial reaction doesn’t sound positive to me.

        • Aureliuss

          As a person who is actually excited about Malgus, I myself did notice the initial groans.

          • Knite

            Sounded more like an ‘Oooh crap’ kind of noise to me.

          • SeekerLancer

            Thanks for the honesty.

        • Johny

          i think it was surprise, doubt anyone saw it coming & then it turned into an AWWWW YEEAAAAAAH

    • Seph

      Lol… You need to get out more. That was shock and awe, not groans.

      • SeekerLancer

        If you say so.

  • Unoshi

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!! and i just kept saying no to a friend, Malgus is not alive…. Well i’m guessing with all those “Dead” Swtor characters, that remade their appearances.. nothing should be a surprise any more….

    Conflicted feelings really..

    but yes, i thought his death was too soon. Welcome back old scrub… time to join my army! But one person that will make his appearance, definitely will.. Darth Jadus, has to.

    note to self: If character doesn’t explode into pieces, he is not death!

    • hal

      i dunno, revan did explode…

      • Unoshi

        in a ball of light, which was to most speculation that he vanished with some new force ability. Well later confirmed he did died, sort of.

        • Silverstar

          Occasionally the invulnerability would (still will?) bug out and he’d actually fall over as any regular corpse if killed before the ability finished channeling.

          • Unoshi

            Ah, never witness that, but in all fairness think I only killed him 5 times or so

        • Ben Gimson

          Actually that Force ability was already established, AFAIK. Fold Space, I think it’s called.

          • Unoshi

            Yeah read something about it. But coudlnt find an source

  • Jonathan Parker

    Woah… That was… unexpected. I guess they have his lightsaber, I don’t know what I expected.

  • Ben Gimson

    Not a fan of milking old characters, but I do like Malgus so will be interested to see how they fit him in.

  • Thomas Akshay Blasczak

    You know guys, this is not a confirmation that Darth Malgus IS alive. We “slew” Malgus but his body was left on the ground. Did he die there or did he recover? For all we know, this could’ve been Malgus’ dead corpse preserved in Carbonite so this new Emperor can revive him and make him a powerful pawn, likely able to sway the former imperial masses to willingly follow Valkorian.

    • Unoshi

      either way, that still means he will come back, which equals, he is alive..

    • Paul&Anna

      that’s not how the original encounter mechanic worked, you had to push him into the shaft to complete the fight, so no body afterwards. they only changed it cause it bugged at times

    • Konoha the Wiper

      who would freeze a corpse

      • Ben Lazarus

        Gault did……….

      • MKDAWUSS

        Someone who wanted to preserve it.

  • hehehehahahohoho

    confirmed… ghost revan returns in 5.0

  • Danny

    BW, just don’t try to make me kill him again… just don’t… cause i won’t :p
    i’d be delighted to be able to make a companion out of him

    • Wilma Lang

      Or become his.

  • Unoshi

    “Death is a lie, There’s only recycle”

  • Guest

    Lol at this point, I have to wonder… Is there anyone we did actually kill? Maybe the guy at Hammer Station. Pretty sure I did kill him, but now I have to wonder…

    • Johnny Wright

      You should have realized that if an emperor falls down a bottomless pit in a space station, he’s damn well coming back.

      • Guest

        False Emperor mind you…

  • Kiri

    “My time has come. For 3000 days, I prepared, grew stronger… While you rested in your cradle of power – believing your people were safe, and protected. You were trusted to finish me, but you didn’t succeed. As my powers of the dark side have blinded you, you assumed no force could challenge you… And now… finally! I HAVE RETURNED.”

    • Unoshi

      + infinite .. he is a marvelous character, amazing. Hope same VA will be used for Malgus. Interesting to see how it will play out

      • Kiri

        Fan-fucking-tastic character. He rapes Satele. Would be orgasmic if we could have him as a companion, but I doubt it.

        • Unoshi

          hehe, but that dialogue they used as a trailer before swtor launches was amazing, but then they changed it…

          • Kiri

            Yea the new one sounds stupid

            • Unoshi

              Nostalgia!!!!! BRB

              • Kiri

                LOL I did the same

        • Any university ever

          “Rapes” great description

          • Kiri

            It’s 2015, get with the slang bro

      • Alex


        • Mark E. DeSade

          Oh. I didn’t even consider that possibility. Me want.

        • SnakeSoul

          If they make him a companion I’m so down with that…as long as he doesn’t get any funny ideas with my twi’lek companion…yeah I’m watching you Malgus..you maybe my most favorite character in TOR but no way your getting my Vette

  • Seph

    So did Luke for that matter.

  • Seph

    I have the sudden urge to go run First Strike on Ilum again on an alt I haven’t done it on yet….

  • Konoha the Wiper

    all this concept art and we only get one load screen, I wish it was a random generated load screen showing a different concept art. It’s more refreshing that way.

    • Wink

      you know, i change it regularly, swtor/retailclient/loadingscreens ~_^

      • I just checked their on my machine, and the only screen is the most recent. So, not sure how you have all of them.


    Heck, HK-47 somehow got off that space station before it blew up, why not Malgus too?

  • Purre

    this is so fucking cool =P

  • JeremyR

    So, a recycled plot for KotFE (yet another 3rd faction appearing from nowhere) and now recycling villains

    Ugh. I like the idea story focus of KotFE, but I would have preferred something original.

    • Wilma Lang

      Was Malgus ever truly a villain?

      • MKDAWUSS

        Outside of Flashpoint briefings, he didn’t get any screentime until Ilum.

        • Kiri

          which sucks considering Satele Shan was everywhere in the Knight and Consular stories.

    • Gankstalicious

      “Now recycling villains” uh hello? Revan? Emperor? They’ve been recycling villains for longer than I’ve had my PC

      • swtorkotorallthingsfanboy

        revan is not a villain, not really anyway

        all he wanted was to stop the emperor from doing what he did on ziost… everywhere
        not like he was taking shit over to be the new emperor or anything

        that makes revan a hero

        a tragic one. :]

        i only hope ghost revan will appear again later ONE LAST TIME as we get ready to strike down vitiate once and for all…

        • William Bolitho

          My Inquisitors would like him to show up again, too. They need a new ghost to feed on…

          • swtorkotorallthingsfanboy

            inquis could not eat revan force ghost if he/she tried!

            revan> over 9000 times compared to anyone inquis has absorbed

            • William Bolitho

              Does not mean they would not be tempted to try.
              Heck, depending situation at the time, they might well think that absorbing that ghost would be a necessity. Even if it means another trip to Belsavis and Voss…

        • Ben Gimson

          No, God no. They need to stop butchering everything that made Revan great. I hope we never see him ever again or hear any references to him whatsoever.

    • Moff

      We don’t even know if Malgus is going to be a villain this time or not.

      • Ben Gimson

        Leader of the resistance! 😀

        • Wilma Lang

          Marr and Malgus team up!

          • p4v7

            M&M’s team!

    • Kiri

      Have you ever heard of a “plot twist”? Malgus isn’t being recycled, don’t whine.

      And how is a thought-to-be-dead, Emperor’s-throne-usurping Sith Lord (who is an excellent character) being revealed to have been frozen in carbonite for 10 years by/being acquired by a third party that basically annihilated the Empire and the Republic, who’s leader is now going to unfreeze said Sith Lord, NOT ORIGINAL?! Tell me, I’d love to hear you whine some more.

      • Because Malgus was an amazing character and all, but he died. They used him out, there is no way Malgus survived the fall into the reactor core pit, or just simply being killed by players without pushing him down, that would be hella stupid. I get Malgus was very resilient, but no one could survive that.

        • Naq

          The bottom of that pit was a series of spring boards and elevators that brought you back to the door. All Malgus did was hide until we all left. I mean the same thing happens when you fall down there.

          • And if you decide not to leave right away you can stay for hours without the ship blowing up… omg you’re right. He survived all along, he was just holding on waiting for you to leave.

  • Saito

    I suppose this could be just a trailer for a new decoration (?)


      Malgus in Carbonite 2200 CC.

  • Noomi

    Am I the only one who finds the gunship in one of the first pictures look a lot like a Clone War era LAAT/i gunship?

    • SnakeSoul

      Yeah was noticing that as well, it’s a concept art so might not be in the game or looks completely different ingame then what is shown in the image.

      But either way if it is in the game it doesn’t really hurt anything because some designs never change, hell some manufactures just take their basic design and enhance it just like some aircrafts and ships may look the same as their older counter part but perform completely different in terms of power, crew and design…Just have to wait and see..

    • Ben Gimson

      What in SWTOR doesn’t look like it was ripped out of the movie era? 😛

    • Moff

      It’s just what they used as concept basis for the ship that actually was in the trailer. You can see the progression.

  • 21-0

    So… they basically showed the concept art for a finished trailer we already know?

    I’m frozen in carbonite. Malgus is frozen in carbonite. Everyone is frozen in c…

    • Timothy Pack

      they’re doing the cantina thing later tonight.

      • Galen

        The cantina is just drinks and talking to the devs nothing more. nothing was announced today.

  • Mark E. DeSade

    Hell, Maul got cut in half and shafted, and came back.

  • Really Confused

    So how come they didn’t show the actor they’ve taken the headscan from for the other twin?

    • Darth Ji’inx

      Perhaps it is the same guy with a slightly altered render?

    • The Actor who played the Twins

      Are you retarded? They are twins…

      • Silverstar

        No, he’s just really confused.

        • Slightly Enlightened

          Thank you Silverstar, someone understands my feelings 🙂

      • Really Really Confused Now.

        Well if they are twins like you claim, where’s the other twin of the actor? I sense much hate on this actor who played the Twins. I betcha these twins didn’t really enjoy playing with a mean actor like you.

  • Xander Alexandre

    when is the cantina twich stream

    • Darth Ji’inx

      Dev Q&A is at 7 PDT.

      • Ste Davies

        Are you going?

        • Darth Ji’inx

          No, not even in San Diego.

  • Shadowofdeath

    So Malgus is the new Kephess?

  • Tenha

    will there be new type of lightsaber?

    • Tenha

      like this

      • Kiri

        picture didn’t show up bro

        • Ahmet Yılmaz

          how about now?

    • Ste Davies

      Would be new in game but not new to star wars. Pretty sure those were in force unleashed.

      lightsaber pike.

      • Darth_Ziltoid

        Same weapon employed by Palpatines Imperial Guard. Pretty sure the Jedi used forms of this weapon for Temple Guardians.

    • 21-0

      Oh. One may hope for short bladed off hand sabers…

      • Raansu

        I always wished marauder/sentinels off hand was a short blade.

        • Holyfrog

          Week you could use a gree saber or the outbreak one as a mainhand the. A regular one as an offhand, then your offhand would be “shorter” then the main.

  • Important Update, Charles Boyd just mentioned that the Malgus part was cut from the trailer, so he might not be returning. Malgus fate is once again uncertain.

    • Rex

      I wonder if Malgus turned out to be a place holder for our character.

    • Kiri

      They wouldn’t waste money on making that part of the cinematic if he wasn’t already in the game again.

    • Unoshi

      I think he just trying to sound interresting. He did it during SoR as well. Guess we just have to wait and see.

  • Catherine Fury Forbes

    You know what they say; if there’s no body, they’re not dead.
    I like to think Malgus will return.

    • Naq

      Pretty much the two rules of Warcraft storytelling.
      1. If you have a good guy who doesn’t listen to another good guys sagely advise….yeah they are gonna be the bad guy.
      2. If anyone dies offscreen, or in any way where you do not have a body (and that body isn’t under constant supervision)….that guy is coming back.

  • Diarrhea

    They wouldn’t show a malgus carbonite unless something was up. I’m calling BS on the “oh we are just showing concepts”

    Malgus is going to be back somehow this explains “Fallen Empire”
    The Empire isn’t Zakuul, its the ONLY fallen empire that has happened in this game, Malgus’. Malgus will get his chance again because of the twins finding him and taking him before Valkorion. Players will find Malgus and have a choice of unfreezing him or not. He gets unfrozen anyways to keep the story going, but he finds out you chose not to. This sets him up to be another villain in the game, but he works both aways again. Helping the Empire, with Marr, to stop the Zakuul invasion. In the end he kills Marr before the player and he is the final boss. The death of Marr and Malgus allows Vitiate to be complete and then shit hits the fan.

    • xking5v

      i like this theory

      • Drâco Dracaris

        who knows he might just end up being a companion 🙂

    • Sinistor

      Id love to see a marr v malgus fight!!

    • Kiri

      Imagine if we got a Malgus V Marr cinematic BROOOOOOOOO

    • p4v7

      Yeah, if they had an idea of Malgus returning and they scrapped it, that decision would be in the pre-production. Because if such a huge character comes back, you need to have a plot that resolves around him. So the explanation that it is only cut content is BS. They wouldn’t make a CGI with Malgus at this stage of development. Because making a CGI, then removing Malgus from the story would left a huge whole in the plot.

  • Connor

    First we saw the trailer at E3, then we saw what we thought was the rest of the trailer a few, what minutes latter. Now we see more? how much more is there to this? Is it secretly a full length movie and bioware is just not telling us?

    • Sinistor

      I hope so haha

  • Hold on… So the scene where the twins present the lightsabers to Valkorion are really saying that they captured those dead Sith and Jedi?!?! They attacked a Republic world and then attacked Korriban all to retrieve relics like carbonized Malgus and his lightsaber?!

    And why 4 of them? Is Valkorion like Apocalypse and those 4 Sith and Jedi are his “Horsemen”? lol

    • They’re probably just to show memorable kills, as a trophy sort of.

    • Darth_Ziltoid

      I figured they were trophies.

  • P’tit Asky

    wow !!! that was truly unexpected !!!

  • Dreamspeaker

    eh, i look on dulfy, and swtor.com in hopes they’ll do something that will make me come back. Still not intrigued. By all these trailers, and forums post, really just makes it seem that’ll be another disappointment. My heart can not take any further abuse </3

    • Knite

      Did you all see that post about a Bank draft above this post? Weird. Banks are normally pretty air tight.

  • Buffme plz
  • mary_mharman
  • Liron Ben-David

    Malgus. New Companion.
    Make it happen.

    • DrOph

      More likely they’re going to make him a deco. This was mentioned to Eric and Chares both last night, whether something comes of it is anyone’s guess. But I The Malthus companion idea came up. I asked them both during the informal phase, and got a definitive no for 4.0, but in seperate instances they left it open that some daaaay he might come, back somehow. That’s the story as I understood it from thrm. It was certainly incindiery to have a malgus prop cut scene.

      • Adam

        New vessel for the Emporer, maybe?

        • DrOph

          For kephsis you mean

  • Raansu

    BW: Masters of rehashing. Malgus is dead, lets leave it that way like you should have with Revan. Come up with something new people.

    • Adam

      Maybe they should come up with a third faction that threatens both the Republic and the Empire!

      • Raansu

        They’ve done that…..twice now ,and soon a third time.

        • Adam

          Lol. Oh I know. Let’s see, Malgus’ rebellion, the Dread Masters, the Hutt Cartel, Revan, and the Emporer himself. We also have to a lesser extent Czerka and the Rakghoul plague. Oh and arguably the Star Cabal. All third parties both sides either ally against or at least focus on.

    • Bryan

      This was clearly always planned. That’s why they had you do that stupid buggy push him over mechanic. I called that he survived 3 years ago. Too bad they cut it. I’d rather see his story continue then whatever this new 3rd faction crap is.

      • vin b

        yea but they took out the push over mechanic because it was “too hard” the new version of the fight you just kill him and leave him dead on the floor, been that way a couple of years now

  • Nozyspy .

    Wait, is that a flying rotworm on his chest in photo 33?!

    • McNooberton

      nah thats a Goa’uld

      • Bryan

        Better call Jack O’Neill, two ls

  • Jordan Hodgson
  • Kyrri

    That color scheme on the ships…I knew it was only a matter of time before Cerberus would expand to the swtor universe. Mass Effects universe just isn’t big enough for their ego

  • Lycinius
  • Saúl Abarca Arias

    Here’s my code http://www.swtor.com/user/ce/2rmgy6
    PD: Is Malgus alive then? o.o

  • relasine
  • Bryan

    I always said he survived. Too bad this was cut.

  • Darth Vitrial

    Neat trailer, still prefer it if they’d leave dead characters dead.

  • Mandalore2280

    So I was there for both story panels and they very clearly said this was an idea that was cut early on because it took away from the fight of the twins in the trailer. They wanted to show the struggle of Arcann’s need of approval from his father, hitting that emotional impact when he cuts down his brother. If they left Malgus in there everyone would just be talking about that no longer paying attention to what was happening on screen. The story team also said that Malgus was ditched because it looked like The Fallen Empire was just taking out Empire targets, made it too pro-republic. This scene was rendered out AFTER the trailer was finished. So little bit of click bait I think there in the original post 🙂 It was never mentioned this was actually an idea they ran with. And since they were only talking about story, they had to give us something more than a few random slides.

  • carl
  • Saint

    This huge ball head just never die 🙁 Just like darth maul…even he s cut in half

  • Beasthuntt

    Yay. More cartel market crap.

  • ItsRainingSith

    I’m pretty sure he’ll be alive. I mean, that was cut, and? If they created that it is because it is planned that he will return. Would make no sense otherwise. Yo dawg, I heard you like Malgus, so I spent some thousands of dollars to create a part of a trailer that will be cut later on just to tease you about Malgus, yo. Cmon.

    • Saito

      Could be and could be not. If it was cut it means that scene has nothing to do with their KOTFE script anymore, we might see him later as a cameo (still on carbonite) or end up as a special decoration. But I doubt he’ll return as a character in the story.
      If theres a minimal possibility for his return its most possible to be post KOTFE since the current story arc is about Valkorion and his children. Having Malgus return mid story with his own revenge/revolution/campaign/etc. would take the players totally away from the current story focus.

  • Hoodedmushroom

    i want MALGUS!

  • Oh, he is going to be PISSED when he gets out of there…

  • Secundum

    Yay Malgus!

  • King Thane

    Nice he’s still alive, that means he has a new place in my home. Right next to my carbonize hutt 🙂

  • I knew he didn’t die. i jumped into the abyss after him and never recovered the body…

  • HadesClutch

    Perhaps Malgus was a plant by this Eternal Empire group to begin with. Would explain why he was so willing to double cross even the Sith Empire, under the assumption the Emperor wasn’t alive, he probably didn’t fear the Sith Empire’s wrath that very much.

  • disqus_IUyM7qId73

    http://www.swtor.com/user/ce/1bxca I was very disappointed Malgus was not a recurring antagonist.

  • The problem is I did not push him off the edge i killed him and gained the xp XD

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