SWTOR Knights of Fallen Empire Livestream Coverage

SWTOR Knights of the Fallen Empire Sept 30 livestream coverage with notes and Q&A.

Video

General

  • What will be talked today- “a whole lot of stuff”
    • Something special for people who done all class stories
    • UI changes
    • Changes to crafting, group finder, inventory, currencies
    • Changes to collections
    • Changes on original worlds.
    • Changes to events and their rewards.
    • Changes to heroic missions.
    • Level syncing on older planets.
    • Performance improverments
  • Some Chapter 1 stream will be shown today for those who missed Twitchcon
  • 2 hr livestream, Musco will go over 3 pages of notes and answer general Q&A from the audience.

Creating a brand new level 60 character

  • New L60 characters will get a recommended Discipline – always DPS and discipline with a simpler rotation
    • Mercenary for example gets Arsenal. You can switch disciplines if you want with the advanced option at bottom right.
  • Character limit – if you are already at 22 character limit and you create a new L60 character it will add a new slot for you up to a cap of 40-50 character per server. If you don’t want to make new L60 characters you can buy more character slots.
  • How much will new L60 costs on the cartel market? Price not determined yet.

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  • Starter Gear: New L60 characters will get legacy bound 188 blue gear that you can transfer to other characters if you like the appearance.
  • Mastery – all the main stat have being consolidated into Mastery. Crit is now all one stat (critical rating and surge are now one stat).

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  • Tutorial Mode – Tutorial mode means you won’t have access to all the abilities and they will show up as you progress in Chapter 1. You can turn off this tutorial mode immediately. It is more meant for new players to avoid overwhelming them with all the abilities.
  • Discipline window – You get a new utility point and an additional utility in the heroic tier.

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  • What you need to complete before KotFE: You don’t need to complete anything before Fallen Empire (i.e. no SOR, RoTHC  class story etc). However, once you start KotFE you cannot go back and complete them again. This only applies to story missions, you can still do the side quests etc.
  • Crew skills on new L60: New characters get all the previous companions and crew skill auto L500. You will get appropriate crew skills for your class (i.e. bounty hunter get armormech, scavenging, and underworld trading)

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  • Companions: You can still customize the appearance of your companions. Their stats are influenced by your level and your influence with that companion. You can change their role selection to damage, tank, heals etc out of combat. Companion gear you farmed from Yavin will be made legacy and can be used for players (except the weapons).
    • Can you obtain companion original gear appearance again? Not at launch of KotFE. Team is aware of and would love to put in.

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New features coming with the expansion

Reward for completing all class stories

  • Legendary status, you get a cool icon ingame next to your name
  • You have to finish all 8 class stories, level doesn’t matter.

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Companions on cartel Market

  • Combat companions, no storyline, cannot be used to sell trash.
  • Can be found inside cartel packs or on the GTN from other players

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New Interface Editor/Share keybinds

  • New interface editor with snap to grid function
  • Share keybind will be available as well in 4.0

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Temporary Ability Bars

  • Temporary ability bar has been added. It will pop up when you have Huttball or when you use Heroic Moment abiltiies. Each of the Heroic Moment ability you can use twice over the course of the heroic moment before they go away. Heroic Moment abilities also have been rebalanced to make them better.

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Crafting Changes

  • Crafting cap is still at 500. There are no more tiers (i..e having to train every 75). You get everything from the beginning.
  • All the armor you craft now start at blue (no more green quality) to make sure the thing you craft are useable for you. They are all adaptive and can be used on any class.
  • There has been some changes to who craft what (a future blog post will post in this detail)
  • All the crafting tiers has been changed to grade 1 to 8.
  • Some crafting materials has been removed. Any material you have that is no longer used will be changed to different crafting material that can be used.
  • Any old schematics you have will be put into an archive section on the crafting menu incase you want to craft them for appearance etc.

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  • Gathering changes: No matter your skill level, you can gather material of any tier. The relative difference between your skill and the tier will determine how much you get. i.e. 500 bioanalysis getting tier 1 material will get a whole bunch of them. A level 1 bioanalysis trying to get a tier 6 material isn’t going to get much.
  • Mission changes: All the mission per grade are available to you. Which one you want will be available. No more RNG of getting which missions.

Currency Changes

  • Basic/Elite/Ultimate commendations changed to Common/Glowing/Radiant data crystals. It is just a name change, your currency are not being reset.
  • Warzone commendation remains the same.
  • No more weekly commendation limit but there is still an overall cap (1000, 500, 500).

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Legacy Changes

  • There now a tab under legacy for datacrons to keep track of datacrons which are now made legacy.
    • Legacy datacrons are now made retroactive
  • Speeder Piloting I can be unlocked at level 1. You can now use your mount at level 1.
  • New summon random mount and summon random pet legacy ability now available. They are completely free.

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Cape Clipping

  • Cape clipping on mounts has been fixed on most capes.

Collections/New Cartel pack

  • New cartel pack will be coming with Fallen Empire on either October 20/27

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  • Collections window now collapse everything by default when you open it.
  • You can now filter items and search items in collections.

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Events and Event rewards

  • All the event vendors have been placed at Cartel bazaar section of fleet for easy access.
  • New vendor have some new stuff and some returning items from old Chevin event and the original Rakghoul event. They require currencies from Gree, Bounty and Rakghoul event.

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Leveling changes on core worlds

  • With the expansion, you just need to play the class missions and the planetary main story mission to level up. The side quests are now classified as exploratory missions and can be hidden.
  • 12XP will be going away with launch of Fallen Empire and be replaced with this new system.
  • There are now special icons for the class/main story missions and heroic missions.

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Group Finder Interface

  • Group Finder Interface has been reworked. Storymode operation for group finder are different every day (set on a rotation). Anyone in 50-65 can jump in and do the storymode operations and hardmode flashpoints.
  • Tactical flashpoints are available from 10-65.

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KotFE chapter interface

  • You can just hit the play button on the top right corner and jump straight into a chapter anytime anywhere. The story will be much like class story in terms of playing with other players. They can watch you make the decisions but can’t do anything themselves.

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Companion Customization

  • Companions now have an outfit tab and you can change their appearance. The exception are droids and companions like Darth Marr.

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Changes to Heroic Missions

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  • There is now a terminal for all the heroic missions. Heroic missions will give you different rewards based on your level so they are always relevant.
  • Every heroic mission now have a priority transport so you can instantly teleport to the location.

Level-Sync

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  • When visiting old planets, your level will be synced down to the appropriate level and have your stats changed. The level will be highest level you can do the content at. This affect everything, not just heroic missions.
  • You will not lose any abiltiies or passives.
  • It is not optional, you cannot toggle off level sync.
  • You will get experience from low level content this way and can help your friends leveling.

Changes to Anti-alising

  • New medium option added, give you the performance of low but looks slightly better.
  • Ultra option give you very sharp graphics.

Influence/Affection/Presence

  • Affection has been renamed to Influence and now does a bit more like affecting combat effectiveness of your companions the higher influence you have with them.

Alliance Feature

  • Alliance feature and companion contacts will be revealed closer to launch.
  • Rondowar

    Hope they stream some good info.. I’ll see tomorrow I guess..
    @dulfy are you going to upload a YouTube version after it’s done?

    • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

      Yup, it is 2 hr long though so will be taking a bit

      • ghostbeetle

        You da man, Dulfy, girl! ^_^
        Seriously appreciative of the job(s) you’re doing!

      • Rondowar

        You’re awesome ^^

  • http://about.me/aragarvarnus Luis – Aragar Varnus

    Did I understand this right? Instead of a 40 cap character slot the cap will be 50?? O_O

    • Van’zan

      Was just going to say the same thing. They must have been able to do something with the game to up the limit that high.

      As an altoholic. You can’t stop me, you can only hope to contain me.

      • Ben Gimson

        I’m fucking buzzing! MORE ALTS! XD

      • http://about.me/aragarvarnus Luis – Aragar Varnus

        I second that.

  • 4rrrrr

    Uhhh… again the same spoilers. Why didn’t they put this at the end of the stream? They have showed chapter 1 twice! There is no need to show it a thrid time, at the beginning!

    • Foccan

      IKR? ”Please come back in 30-45 mins”….

      • 4rrrrr

        He is giving other information while showing chapter 1, so… I’ll miss this if I leave.

        • Foccan

          You can just watch the résumé on this page anyway, spoiler free.

    • Neg Sani

      I really don’t understand the need or desire to spoil story. Show us the changes and such while doing old content.

  • Adam Cardin

    hmm. they seem to have simplified things again…eh- not a big deal. The heroic ability bar is a good addition though.

  • 4rrrrr

    The presentation of the random mount was awesome!
    XD

  • Tank

    So are datacrons finally legacy since there is a new tab for them?

    • Urza

      Yeap. The tab shows you what you’ve found.

    • VicVader

      Yes.

  • Mashiro

    mastery? wtf is that? :o

    • shitpost commander

      the dumbed down version of willpower/aim/strength/cunning. All in one stat for reasons

      • Mashiro

        so you just grab any item and will adjust to your main stat?

        • shitpost commander

          in a way…there won’t be any main stats anymore, just mastery. IMO it’s complete bullshit

          • Mashiro

            ok im not paying this shit anymore

          • nwstud

            Agreed, it’s complete BS. More simplifying and dumbing down the game to require less thought by the player.

            • shitpost commander

              pretty much. Also I’m thinking about all the item rolls and the drama about them while pug’ing lol

              • Mashiro

                I’m seriously not buying this anymore, it’s the most stupid nonsence shit ever. This game is getting easier and easier. Not surprise if we get the god droid from solo tacticals for open world so it fucking kill everything while we talk shit in gen chat .__.

              • shitpost commander

                talking shit in general is pretty much a given, jesus droid or not. Anyway I don’t think it’ll be THAT easy, but meh….it kinda loses its charm when everything is dumbed down. Gonna play it for the new single player story, then I’ll be leaving swtor behind ’till it gets its shit together.

              • Grymmjow

                So you’re freaking out because they’ve made all the stats the same? Not sure how that makes the game easier. I mean…you still need set bonuses from raids. To each their own tho. Good luck in your future adventures

              • Nick Wenzel

                Yeah they must be hard for them not to put list items into a Juggertank . They go ok ,they don’t missed

              • Mashiro

                please explain whats the point of it? we have a mastery stat, cool… a mastery of what? i will stay because of the story, oh and slaying people in warzones

              • Corvus6

                And nothing of value was lost.

              • Mashiro

                uuh we have a badass here, none of us worth anything as a single player, sucker u.u

              • sentientomega

                Actually, with the OW scaling, GSI droids would be handy to have around, for everything. ^^

              • Mashiro

                jesus droid army will be the next 3rd faction enemy!!!!!! XD

            • Joakim Sjösten

              and what required actual thought about getting Willpower for a Inq/Cons? You still have other stats but getting the main stat for your class was a no-brainer.

              • Grymmjow

                Exactly. Well said.

      • 4rrrrr

        Well… choosing the right main stat didn’t made somebody an expert.
        XD

        I know some people still failed.

      • Shadow Broker

        Just means it’s harder to fuck up your stats. Only concern now is whether you’re wearing the correct armor. Light, Medium, or Heavy.

        • Sum0ne

          And even there, it seems like almost everything is being made adaptive

  • Cameryn

    Okay, so I’m totally fine with the automatic-level-to-500 crafting professions for new level 60s…. but what about all of us who leveled extra characters from 1 to 60 on the 12X XP boost who didn’t go for crew skills? Just wondering if there will be an easy catch up.

    • Shadow Broker

      There’s not. Starting a new character or continuing one that already exists will progress like normal.

  • lolermelon

    noooo! level-sync needs to be optionallll

    • Corvus6

      It should be limited to the heroic areas.

      Also, no more soling World Bosses

      • AdjeYo

        Meh, there’s no need for it at all imo, doing stuff while overleveled and overgeared makes you feel like you accomplished something. You got better, this level sync will just be a nuisance.

        • Corvus6

          He was still wreckin those mobs on DK, it will take some more effort though. I’m undecided on how I feel about it.

    • Shadow Broker

      Sync needs to stay or the credits, exp, and rewards will be greatly decreased to the actual level of the heroic instead of being awarded loot that matches your character’s real level. The better rewards we get justifies the sync and difficulty. Take that away and you can forget about ever doing another heroic for the daily grind.

      I’m confident that I can solo the heroics, since I know my class and abilities. Don’t see why you can’t either unless you’re not so confident in your ability to fight tougher opponents.

      • Neg Sani

        Except that unless you are on the closed test server you have no idea if the heroics are soloable, particularly heroic 4s. But if you’re quite confident you should be able to go back to a planet while the mission is still green for you now and solo heroic 4s. That will give you an idea of how it will be after 4.0. Curious to hear how that goes for you.

        • Shadow Broker

          I’ll probably be fine seeing as I run a tank and I use a healer companion. I’ve done the hard mode Czerka flashpoints solo, before they removed them from the weekly completion list. Only problem will be those heroics that require 4 players due to the mechanics involved.

  • Joakim Sjösten

    Looks interesting. Seems what i said would happen with Datacron unlocks and the fact that you unlock them when you have access to that area happened =D

    About Level-sync and Open world pvp, i hope the Camp guards level sync aswell so you can still attack them and not get instant killed by max level guards.

  • Kiri

    Level sync is STUUUUUUPID. Should be optional.

    Mastery is pretty dumb too. There was no need to simplify main stats. This will just lead to more problems with item rolls for aesthetics and people will get pissed off. They WON’T change it back, but instead they’ll change something else that will ruin another thing, etc… Domino effect.

    Don’t fix what ‘aint broken!!! A lesson they’ve yet to learn.

    • Joakim Sjösten

      What problems? If you have less stats, then you roll Need. Those that already rolled need when they just wanted the looks of the item will keep doing that even if they didn’t change the main stat.

      • Kiri

        OH YEA?! YOU KNOW WHAT MOTHERFUCKER?!?!?!

        That’s actually a good point…

        Cheers.

    • The Watchmen

      They need something to use in the place of Presence that none of us never saw on gear after level capping, yet alone on non-crafted gear leveling up.

      Lets you rediscover old content while getting usable XP, comms, gear. Plus with all your abilities still active, you are still overpowered for most of these anyway.

      What wrong with getting rewarded for redoing old content? Not a damned thing

      • Kiri

        I agree that getting XP for old content is great but I don’t like how it’s planet-wide and automatic.

        I don’t like the idea of getting attacked by mobs EVERYWHERE I go now…..

  • 4rrrrr

    They should add herocis to some kind of Groupfinder.
    It looks like you can solo most of them at high level, but there are still Heroics like the one in Section X that require 4 people to press buttons.

    Worldbosses and Heroics should get their own tab on the groupfinder.

    • Darkojin

      Technically, Heroics are in groupfinder, you just can’t queue for any certain one. You can choose to queue up for Heroics on X planet, and hope other people have done the same.

  • 4rrrrr

    Are these fighting companion pets a new kind of pet?
    Or can we use the pets we already own?

    Thinking about the Tauntaun Fawn fight is odd and awesome at the same time.

    • AbnerDoon

      It’s Pokemon! lol

      • Pokemon Trainer

        I call the Rancor or Wampa as my Starting Pokemon! Dibs!

        • Beezelbubbles

          I choose you, Sarlacc Pit!

    • Shaodw Broker

      They’re fighting companions. Meant only to fight. Your old pets won’t do any of that.

    • http://dulfy.net/ Dulfy

      These are new combat companions from cartel packs etc only. Existing pets are just pets.

  • Vincent Uchiha

    stupid lvl synce idc :( stupid that means gear doesnt mather no more

    • Shadow Broker

      Actually, it still does. Your character stats are scaled down, but your abilities and the stats on your gear remain intact. At least, that’s how I took from the stream.

      • Vincent Uchiha

        well stil it should be optional anyway also putting down stats is BS should be persons own choice i am not waiting to work my ass twice as hard for lower planet to do qeust also wanna solo hororic,s as fast i can so this is uterly bs i mean u can easly die from lvl 10 mob that BS then of lvl 16 world boss

        • TaintyMusco

          Why are you on lower level planets anyways?

          If you are inclined to complete everything do it now before it goes live. Its not that hard when it does drop and you can still do everything when you *gasp* group with other players.

          What a stupid piece of shit.

  • Sarigar

    This sauce is all awesome. So much stuff I love here I don’t know where to start. Oh wait, yes I do:

    ANIMAL COMPANIONS
    ANIMAL COMPANIONS
    ANIMAL COMPANIONS

    • Mashiro

      will every pet become a companion or there will a new section called “animal companion”?

      • Sarigar

        It looks to me like they are going to offer beast companions via direct sale in the Cartel Market, and also as rare drops in future cartel packs. I feel confident in stating that they are not going to convert existing mini-pets into combat companions. I would guess that any beast companions you add to your roster will appear in your main companion list.

        Presumably beast companions will be able to fill all companion roles, although I’m not sure how they’re going to heal. It may be that they are limited to Tank/DPS roles.

        • Mashiro

          I want a battle cow comp!!! (uxibeast) xD

          • Sarigar

            I wish you were on Ebon Hawk, because you seem awesome. :)

            • Mashiro

              who knows… maybe I’m there :P
              no I’m actually in Begeren :)
              thanks for the “awesome” qualification, you are awesome too ^_^

              • Sarigar

                Arigato Mashuuuuuu!

              • Mashiro

                yay you got the name’s origin! :D
                if someday I unfreeze my ebon hawk marauder I will start to yell “Sarigar” :P

              • Sarigar

                Sarigar is on the Republic side, on Empire side you want to yell “Algol” or “Greybold”. Or Teratus, or Jurgoran, or Ozzek, or Garran, or Yamal…

              • Mashiro

                so many imp toons! I will go in when I have some free time. After farming some several amout of wz comms :P

              • Sarigar

                Well, I have a lot of Rep-side guys too. I have a lot of mens!

              • Mashiro

                oh you like manly company? *sight* :P

              • Sarigar

                Nope, just prefer playing my own sex, it’s what I know best! Female company is vastly preferable to dudes. :)

              • Mashiro

                I know what you did there :P
                is that a date calling? :P joking

              • Sarigar

                I’m down! Dinner and dancing at the Nexus Cantina, then drinks at the stronghold. What happens in Kaas City stays in Kaas City!

              • Mashiro

                changing plans, I dont dance so just dinner, then drinking “mate” (argentinian drug :P) while playing acoustic guitar like hippies in stronghold’s balcony :P

              • Sarigar

                Sounds good to me! :D

              • Mashiro

                you are on now? i could log if you want :)

              • Sarigar

                Ahh sorry! I had to get some sleep so that I can do my day job. I got nothing but free time all weekend, though!

              • Mashiro

                I can’t follow you back lol
                my mara’s name is zaphyrakym, add her :P

              • Sarigar

                You’re showing as already following, it’s all good. :) I had to set my profile to private because some loser thought it would be funny to make a handle called “Sarigar_is_GAY” and follow me on it. I deleted him and he came right back, so… had to go private.

                I’ll add Zaphy next time I log in!

              • Mashiro

                that sounds funny xD
                i’ll wait for you :P

              • Sarigar

                Aieee I didn’t mean to leave you hanging! I’m still recovering from this cold, I’ve been pretty out of it. I did log in and add Zaphy on Imp side, we will get together and eat steak and strum guitars soon. :)

              • Mashiro

                since you never log in add me on twitter @iMashiron :P

              • Sarigar

                I was on for a while tonight, I was looking for you! Sorry about that. I don’t have a Twitter, I guess I can read how to make one?

              • Adam Haynes

                What guild are you in? I have toons on Begerin and am thinking of looking for a more active guild.

              • Mashiro

                I was in REIGN (best guild in the server) but they moved to harbinger also with dark hunters (another big guild), another big guild from pub side like “intrepidation” or something like that also left the server, im guildless now in every toon i have, my imp toons never had a guild anyways :P
                there are cool big guilds in the server but i dont remember their names, there is one called “living drama free”, another one called “galactic lounge” and some more :)

              • Adam Haynes

                Cool, I’ve seen all of those around. I’ll have to check out Reign on Harbinger. Maybe see you around in there!

              • Mashiro

                nah I didn’t move, poor girl here :P

  • Darth Twinge

    “Alliance feature” does that mean youll be able to change factions? O_o

    • 4rrrrr

      As far as I know: no. Factions can’t be changed. And there will also be no new third faction.

    • Shadow Broker

      It probably has to do with the “Reputation” you have with the other factions like Mandalorians, Hutt Cartel, Sith Empire, The Republic, and other factions. Most likely will show where you are in their influence and what other companions you can unlock to join your crew.

    • Jose Velez-Martinez

      No, Alliance feature has to do with your companion’s affection towards you.

  • AbnerDoon

    I like that sound of a lot of this stuff especially datacrons and companion customization tab.

  • Spc

    Level syncing on older planets is stupid and it will kill the game.

    • AbnerDoon

      Never has in any of the other mmo’s I’ve played. You still have all of your unlocked skills and will be at max stats for that planet.

    • Shadow Broker

      Where’s your proof? How exactly will it ruin the game? It’s not like we go to every single planet everyday. As I recall, most just stay on fleet or go to the daily areas.

    • 4rrrrr

      I did a lot of stuff overleveled. Including Worldbosses weekly and H2+/H4.

      With 4.0 we get other stuff to do. We don’t know if it will happen, but it could revive killing other Worldbosses. Right now everybody is killing the 4 ones you can solo. If you want to kill some of the others (for the achievement) you barly get people to do that.

      It could also improve the gameplay, that we are no longer able to solo them.

      We will see.

    • The Watchmen

      It will save the game in a lot of way really. Lets you rediscover old content while getting usable XP, comms, gear. Plus with all your abilities still active, you are still overpowered for most of these anyway.

      • Nik Stalwart

        Lol, so my Vengeful Slam/Vigilant Thrust will tickle for 3 damage on Tython?

        Nah, sorry, not sure if it will kill the game, but from now on, I am strictly PVP and will not leave fleet. Or roll a single new toon.

        • pegasus912

          Did you watch the stream? Musco was soloing a Heroic just fine. And what is the problem with 3 damage (an exaggeration btw) if the enemies have 6 health?

          • Nik Stalwart

            Actually, they have 100+ health.

        • The Watchmen

          We have nothing that completely states that level syn will be active on each lower level planet all the time. I’ll wait for an official answer before I based full judgement

    • Vos_L

      Not gonna kill the game, lol. Makes it much easier for people to play with their friends on lower level content instead of everyone getting shafted on XP.

      • Robert Davis

        Being FORCED to do so.. is a pain in the ass… giving us the option to do so for xp/mission credit.. I don’t mind.

        I’d gladly temporarily give up the ability to get lvl’d loot or credit for a time period to make it easier for me to kill mob for my own personal search effort.

        Having spelled that out, I very quickly can see that it could easily be exploitable in non instanced heroics. but, I personally run solo more than ever being in group.. and this is hurting my efforts on trying to finish up certain things in 3 weeks.

      • JeremyR

        Which is great for the 5% of the game that likes to group with friends.

        For people who like to play solo, this effectively kills off much of the game

  • Ben Gimson

    All looks really good. Except level sync, that should be optional. It’s stupid that it’s not.

    • Generation Z

      Level sync really isnt that bad.

      • Ben Gimson

        When it’s optional, sure. Being unable to travel across a lower level planet without my speeder exploding and throwing me to the ground every minute or two? Bad. Being unable to go back and solo stuff just for the fun of it? Bad. They’re going to spoil the game for a few people I know by doing this. Recycling raids is one thing, but recycling the entire game?

        But, I’ve done all the old heroics, so I can live with never doing them again.

        • Chyron HR

          “Being unable to travel across a lower level planet without my speeder
          exploding and throwing me to the ground every minute or two? Bad.”

          Because that’s what happens when you’re traveling around Rishi and Yavin IV at level 60, right? Mobs constantly aggroing on you and knocking you off your mount. It’s incredibly frustrating, I tell you what.

          • Arinstorm

            but Y4, rishi, ziost is already enough, and i like to travel out there without any npc bothering me, i like to explore and find my stuff without die and have to walk back km’s, or beg for help to clear the way to get a datacron, i agree, it’s cool but but should be optional. i think pvp servers should be like this, then high lvl players wont come back and kill ppl just cuz they are bored.

          • Ben Gimson

            Happens on every planet before those, so not sure what you’re getting at exactly.

      • Nik Stalwart

        I wish disqus was like reddit so I could see the downvote storm on that comment…

        Level sync is totally not “not that bad” because there is this thing called ‘enjoyment’ that you play games to get, and having to slog through content you already did on 30+ characters ….. at level….is dumb

  • Wifihog

    It doesn’t appear that we do get a new utility point. It’s already capped at 7, they just spread them out so you have to re-earn one after 55.

    • Wifihog

      after 60* my bad

  • dbaswell

    Was there any mention of why no CM update this week?

    • The Watchmen

      Tomorrow probably, my money is on Thursday changes

  • Fal

    What about Dread Seed areas? Are we going to be lvl 50 on those planets?

    • Spc

      I guess on nar shadaa you will be like level 27 and it will be very very hard to do dread seed missions.
      I really hope they make it optional or just don’t do it.

      • needsomemiracle

        Or maybe they will simply make dreadseed mobs the same level as everything else on the planet since you are being downscaled anyway.

  • Vos_L

    Like the legacy datacrons, simplied companion gear and ability to change companion roles, and the increased character slots…..not a fan though of the forced power-leveling through the 1-50 planets. The 12 XP system with the ability for people to turn it off was fine.

    • BrianDavion

      the new system just means you can skip the side quests

  • Nik Stalwart

    “With the expansion, you just need to play the class missions and the
    planetary main story mission to level up. The side quests are now
    classified as exploratory missions and can be hidden.”

    Uh, that’s what I did before 12x was even a thing. Nothing new here.

    “Level sync is not optional.”

    Fuck you BioWare.

    Fuck, fuck, fuck you.

    Burn in the deepest bowels of Oricon and get tickled to death by the fingers of Brontes.

    • Estimated Prophet

      Can you explain the hate?

      Except for greifing lowbies on a PvP server why even go back?

      • Robert Davis

        There is some content that has been used to grind for easy Conquest points. And more specifically, and this is the part I think they may be forgetting.

        Alderaan, Hoth, Voss all have areas/mobs that are substantially higher than the intended planetary level.. that are wrapped around quests that would now be impossible if you were forced to be at ‘max intended level.’ (No more soloing World Bosses, The Dread Seed/Star Forager areas. the Bonus Series’ of most planets)

        Upside, is that it makes Open World pvp far more interesting.

      • Nik Stalwart

        lots of things, actually.

        For instance, planets in the 40-50 level range havea lot of random world drops that are cosmetically-pleasing (Collossus armor, anyone?) that are a pain to farm as-is, given that they are random world drops, but having to be at-level to do it will just take ages.

        Also heroics, the old ones, are a quick source of comms, source of decos, and I know many people who still haven’t got Galactic Hero cheevo.

        They are pushing the solo perspective with KOTFE, but – they are also nuking the low-level soloing.

      • DarthZ

        Dailies, conquest, datacron hunting.

      • Darth Twinge

        people also farm credits in heroic areas on planets like voss. wont be possible now. it also could make datacron hunting and doing seeker droid finding a bit more… time consuming

    • Gabriel Ibude

      Why are you so mad?? The sync option is fine with me no more people overkilling like crazy

      • Nik Stalwart

        Because, I am actually a fan of overkilling.

        If I wanted to kill “at-level”, I’d be killing at level. My IQ is generally enough to decide for myself what I want to do and how I want to do it.

        • Shasta

          If you actually watched the stream then you saw that he had zero problems destroying mobs even though he was level sync’d. It’s a non-issue.

      • iceberg265

        The problem with your post is the word option. They are not making it an option.

  • Estimated Prophet

    Hi

    if I have completed all the class quests except the Sage and I make a level 60 Sage with the expansion I then become Legendary status?

    • Gabriel Ibude

      Probably yea

    • New 60’s don’t count

      no…he mentioned it in the stream. You need to do it the old fashion way.

  • DARTHZ

    Level sync won’t affect daily areas like CZ. Right? RIGHT?

    • Robert Davis

      Probably will effect there as well.

    • Ahhnold

      Yes little girl! Do it Naow! NAOW!

      • DarthZ

        Appreciate the insult. Now tell three good things that will come of making mobs on daily areas tougher? I’m waiting…

        • Darth Gnaw

          1. Less stealing of mobs from other players to grief them.

          2. Youll get better loot from those mobs.
          3.Maybe we wont fall asleep from boredom while grinding out rep for old daily areas.
          4.No jumping lower level players on PvP servers and killing them in 1 or 2 swipes

          5.It will make having done that content mean something by way of the exclusive rep rewards. If its super easy to faceroll the content and get all the decos and armors etc, then EVERYONE has it.

  • http://about.me/aragarvarnus Luis – Aragar Varnus

    At first I though the level sync was a bad idea but then I thought about Diablo 3’s adventure mode and I thought it was actually a very nice idea! Love all the changes so far. Still waiting for no more caps on comms but, you can’t have everything, right? :P

    • JB1987

      they do the same thing for GW2 when you go to certain areas. its not a big deal. just more ways to get creds and XP.

      • http://about.me/aragarvarnus Luis – Aragar Varnus

        Exactly, It’s not as bad as some people are saying. In my humble opinion.

    • iceberg265

      It would be a great idea if it was optional.

  • Wears only robes and hawtpants

    All this bitching about “WAHH I CAN’T ONE SHOT SHIT ON TYTHON NOW”

    I’m just sitting here getting a hard on over cape clipping being fixed in most cases

    • JB1987

      cape clipping being fixed, grid clip options for interface, bringing a little challenge to older world levels by scaling both the missions on planets, AND the rewards you get from them. its freaking awesome! they’re still making ops and flash points, just not now. i think this is, by far, the best thing ever done for this game. then again, its just only under 4 years old. more to come.

    • Mashiro

      it’s an awesome idea to recycle old content yet the big problem is they are forcing us to play in group while we have overpopulated servers and empty servers

  • Blaze

    opened a thread about suggestion for combat companions, feel free to post your own! :D http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=838464

  • Darth-Robin

    sign me up for the camp that hates this forced lvlsync bullshit if it was optinal fine awesome let people play like that while i play how i want to play aka oneshotting mobs in blackhole daillie area and other area’s

    that no longer possible wow are they actually this retarded?
    before any dumbasses come up with GW2 did it waa waa waa
    guildwars 2 build it from the ground up while they were developing the game THEY did not tacked it on after the game is launched 3-4 years later which is what biofail is doing now.
    heriocs pfft please i dont do them anyway far to much hassle to get bunch of noobs that cant play like shit
    i rather overlvl it then do it alone if thats how i wanna play, then that is how i wanna and gonna play
    finally last thing im gonna say about what some shithead biodrone defenders say that its bringing life back into old planets and herioc? WRONG people will not do that garbage as people will avoid it like the plague i know i will.

    • Diarrhea

      Are you an idiot?
      This is to help reduce the credits in the game as well. People won’t be able to face roll through content that was intended to be grouped.

      Lastly, if you are doing older content you can now get more rewards for your level. Sorry you can’t play by yourself anymore in an MMO.

      • Darth-Robin

        to help reduce credits in the game? hey look everybody another retard.
        reducing credits in the game haha no seriously are you a retard?

        • Mashiro

          retard are those who sell f2p items for more than 350k (even escrows) screwing the game economy

          • Darth-Robin

            and that is somehow my fault how? blame biofail for that retarded low credit cap for both f2p and prefered it is ridiculous that a single subcriber can have over 11 billion credits while f2p has to deal with 200k and we prefered players with 350k

            • Mashiro

              never said it was your fault, I’m was just talking about real retard people, you so histerical .__.

              • Darth-Robin

                its more of a sarcastic remark:P

              • Mashiro

                use “( )” next time, people is so offensive here XD
                give me a hug *hugs random forum guy* :P

              • Darth-Robin

                (hugs mashiro) there you go

              • iceberg265

                Hysterical*. The irony is real.

  • Naq

    *sploosh*

  • pt4life

    LoL @ lvl sync that shit will get so much hate.. good thing i dont plan on ever going back to any other planets

  • SuperDuperAngryPerson

    Hello all! I was kinda bored and looking to bitch about level syncing in 4.0. Can someone show me where i can do this pls?

    Thx baes

    • PoopsMcDoubles

      Come to the East Side Showroom in Austin. It’s where I drink with a few of the devs. But I don’t see the problem with it and I’ve seen them throw out people who were there just to bitch and cry about the game

  • http://www.lmgtfy.com idnewton

    Don’t have time to write a detailed post, but I notice they’re fixing a lot of just plain “stupid BS” that used to be in the game (weekly comm caps, the pointless jump of standard crafting material tiers from 6 to 9 and from 9 to 11, the lack of a grid system for the interface editor, etc.)

    • Darth Twinge

      Indeed. Longevity fixes perhaps? Still welcome fixes IMO

      • http://www.lmgtfy.com idnewton

        Well, I posted my full response, finally. It’s long. And by long, I mean REALLY ****ING LONG.

  • Sarigar

    Level sync is awesome and will revitalize the game for thousands of players. If you hate it… I drink your tears. :)

    • Hemlock

      Could not agree more Sarigar, spot on analysis :)

    • Naq

      It feels like they read all my suggesty things, and made them coming uppy things instead. As I read all this my jaw kept getting lower and lower, and now a family of bears is using my mouth to hybernate for the winter. Picking your crafting skills for you is a bit odd though for instant 60’s, could just let them go level w/e they want…sorry to whoever gets armstech.

      • Sarigar

        Unrelated, but do you have a Series 212 chest piece you’d part with, Naq?

        • Naq

          I’ll have a look, I think I have some series pieces parts.

      • Sarigar

        Beast companions… awesome. Just give me a tuk’ata companion to rampage across worlds with and I’ll be happy!

    • Robert Davis

      The problem is.. depending upon how it’s implimented. It will break certain long/ongoing quests.

      I get what they are trying to do. But, the point is, to make the open world heroics a challenge, making the weekly reward actually worth the effort. (Sufficient challenge, so as to not be ‘free’ gear.) However, There are some planets that the total lvl’s of the content are so wide apart, that locking it to the highest lvl expected for content is actually still game breaking.

      Alderaan, Hoth, Voss, all have places where there are lvl 50-55 mobs to fight. (They are out of the way.. but if you’re forcibly locked into lvl’s 40-44-47 respectively… they will become completely impossible to complete.

      That is the problem myself, and may others who can look past the “I want to beat up on Lowbies cause I can.” mentality.

      And if the individual planetary cap takes those mobs into account for a lvl 55+. Then the level cap itself to maintain a challenge w/o adjusting those heroics becomes pointless. Because you’d still be 10 levels + above them in lvl.. and there by still able to kill everything. It’d just take longer.

      Leveling the playing field for open world pvp.. I consider that to be a plus. (Though it does hurt some of the Tython, Korriban RP.)

      You can drink on ‘my tears’ all you want… but if you aren’t respecting those facts of the situation and taking them into account.. then you must never intend to do anything related to the macrobinoculars/seeker droids post oct 20th.

      Cause they may say that the launch is the 27th.. but given the fact that early access is early access.. the non KotFE changes will go into effect on the 20th for everyone. Those who don’t have early access will just have to deal with not being able to touch the new content.

      And that’s scheduled to be a bounty week.

      • Sarigar

        I’m certain they’ve taken those few quest areas into account. I doubt it’s much effort to leave those areas as “bubbles” of true level for the purposes of those missions.

        • Robert Davis

          Your assumption that Bioware would catch those things before it going live.. does not match my experience with them in this game.

          (One of alderaan’s isn’t actually out of the way.. it’s right outside one of the main Pub bases.)

          But it is wrapped in with the same thing as the bonus series’. Though not to such an extreme. (Though the Alderaan bonus series is pretty high compared to the rest of the planet. And Hoth’s is even worse.)

          It’ll be one of the first things I check out when everything goes live later this month. Because I don’t trust them to catch that on their own.

    • iceberg265

      If its so awesome, why does it have to be mandatory?

  • Fuzzypaw

    So, no need to gear up at all? That’s really fun!!!

  • iceberg265

    I was about to make a comment about how there is a lot of cool stuff there, then I saw that level sync is not optional. Seriously what the actual fuck.

  • Gnuk

    “There has been some changes to who craft what” …This is the only thing I may take issue with

    • Dru Ilhares

      I suspect this is more in regard to the changes with Augments, as there will no longer be a Surge value, and you won’t have the 4 individual stats to increase. They’re probably going to give each of them a Mastery augment, and maybe shuffle the remainder.

    • Sevus

      According to what I’ve seen, Armoring moved from Cybertech to Armormech, Enhancements moved from Artifice to Cybertech, and Artifice now has the ability to craft Relics of every level band.

    • Miles Carraway

      I took this just to mean the jumped to lvl60 character

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  • Shasta

    I hated the idea of level sync but seriously, Musco was still just rolling through Heroic level mobs. One-shotting? No. 3-shotting? Yes. I’m fine with this change now.

    • The Natoorat

      it’s also probable that he is full of haxx.

      • Shasta

        He made it a point to say how he was still able to solo quite easily. He’s goofy enough to walk away for water in the middle of a stream but I don’t think he’s dumb enough to play with dev powers turned on and not call it out.

        • The Natoorat

          Maybe you’re right, I think I’ll need to try it out myself, but at the moment I’m not thrilled. Will have to wait and see.

    • Darth-Robin

      he was doing the first 2 man herioc you get he was lvl 18 and that herioc is lvl 12 no wonder hes 1-3 shotting the mobs……

  • The Natoorat

    I like most of the changes in 4.0… but some are… questionable.

    Simplifying stats (Mastery) is… strange. I really don’t see a point to it, even because of the “gear looks” reasons, since we have an appearance tab. What was wrong with old stats?

    Choosing companion’s role is great, I love it, but… why automated stats? I understand that we will no longer need to gear up companions, fine… but I like to have a control over my comp’s stats. Now I know exactly how strong my comp is, and what I can do to improve him/her, but with a new system… No idea.

    Crafting/gathering/mission changes. Generally seems OK, but… WHY RESTRICT BASED ON CLASS? (at least that’s what I understand)

    Aaaaaaand level sync… What the…? I really don’t get it. Lvl 65 people will not do low-level heroics as XP will not do anything for them and basic comms (sorry I meant common crystals) will be useless (unless they receive glowy/radiant crystals because of high lvl, but would that be fair?). And what about planets that have 2 lvl tiers (eg you can’t do bonus series right after “regular” planet chain because it’s designed to be done after the end of a chapter with higher lvl)? And what about all those badass lvl65 people going to Korriban / Tython to look down on newbies? Will they be kicked into oblivion by some low-level players?

    And yes… Probably it’s all my fault because I do not play the game the “right way”, SWTOR is a single player game for me, mostly for 2 reasons: (1) I do not have a lot of time to play, and having to leave in the middle of a heroic or a FP is not fun for anyone; (2) I kind of suck (mostly because of point 1, I simply do not have time to train enough to be “competitively” good) and being ridiculed by others because I do not press the right buttons fast enough is not my idea of fun either. Because I do not do group content I might be short on comms/crystals, and now it appears I will not be able to “farm” few heroics on Balmorra/Taris because of level sync. But then again, with auto companion gear I will need less comms/crystals to gear myself, so it might not be so bad.

    Oh, and I DO like filler side quests (most of the time)

    I play TOR because I enjoy the stories and the setting, That’s it.

    Stay thirsty my friends.

    • Sevus

      1) It serves two purposes – one, it lets you use more drops, and two, it prevents things like a Sniper in Aim gear or a Shadow in Strength gear because those stats make intuitive sense for those classes to have.

      2) Because it ensures that the companion you want to use is always able to help you complete the content you want to do.

      3) You misunderstand. New level 60 characters will have three crew skills automatically learned and at skill level 500, and the skills known will be based on the class. Your existing characters’ crew skills will be unaffected, and if you want to change the crew skills of your new 60s, you can, you just have class-appropriate crew skills by default.

      4) According to another site, the reward for 61-65 characters doing Heroics is their choice of 5 Common Data Crystals, 2 Glowing Data Crystals, or an item that either grants reputation or can be turned into an NPC for rewards, so there’s a valid reward for that level band. Additionally, despite the level sync, Eric was able to solo enemies in a Heroic 2+ area quite easily – retaining all of your abilities and utilities makes a level sync’d 65 much, much more powerful than a level 18 character, it just means you can’t solo world bosses anymore. No word on how it’ll work with planets like Nar Shaddaa or Alderaan, however.

      5) Nothing wrong with playing SWTOR solo, I have RL friends I like to play with, but when they’re not on, I usually play solo too.

  • Hemlock

    Some fantastic changes here.

    1/ Search Collections… OMG about time, this has been so needed for ages :)
    2/ Level Sync extends relevant content making more content for everyone I love this system all games should do it.

    3/ Planetary Story mission plus Class misssions to level up = good idea. 12x xp was great but some of the Planetary missions I thought were a bad idea to miss out on…good solution here.
    4/ MIssion icons for Class and Planetary missions also excellent it was in the past sometimes difficult to track what was what.
    5/ OMG Legacy Datacron, Fantastic Idea and the unmentioned benefit here is with the move to Mastery you want all datacrons now GG :)

    Im very happy with many changes being presented here.

    Well Done Bioware imho

    :D

  • doncalls

    Everything i saw in the stream sounds great,i was very doubtful etc on what they have been doing but they have spent a ton of time doing all of these things.

    Thank you people of BW,EA.

  • Darth Ji’inx

    Looks like now’s the time to make sure I have enough Devoted Allies gear for my characters in 4.0 XP

  • Ben Fuller

    They said legacy datacrons are retroactive. Does that mean if I had a character that had all of them upto makeb but deleted it I would still get them for other chars or do I loose out unless I ticket for a character restore?

    • http://mycrazymessedupbrain.tumblr.com/ Rex

      If the Achievement’s are still in your legacy you should be good. They would be listed under Explorations for each Planet.

      • Ben Fuller

        I’ll have a look but I think I deleted it along time ago so may not be covered. Now to remember the spelling of that character lol

    • Robert Davis

      Specifically he said he was 99.9% certain that they were retroactive. Given the fact that it hasn’t been added as a correction to the Dev Tracker already.. I’d call it confirmed.

      How they are going about doing it.. is left up in the air however.

      If it’s tracked and unlocked when you log into the character who has the lore already unlocked.. it’ll unlock it for you legacy. (That’s how I’d write it.) If that is the case… then in your case… you probably wouldn’t have them all unlocked. But, as you log into the characters that you have gotten datacrons with… they’d be added to your overall unlock list.

      But, as Rex said.. if it was done with the legacy being active at the time. (Meaning you have the Light Datacron Table & Dark Datacron Table decorations unlocked.).. You have proof when submitting a ticket to get at least those datacrons added to your legacy after the fact.

      • Ben Fuller

        I haven’t bothered getting them in mist characters outside starter planets. Had one guardian I did them all on upto makeb. Looks like I better ticket for a character restoration just in case lol

  • Ahmet Yılmaz

    what will happen to current comp. gear? and will comps will be back with their original gear like mako?

    • Robert Davis

      Depending upon what your companion is wearing… it’ll be mailed to you as is… (Or in the case of the Yavin IV reward gear… it’s being converted to standard Bind to Legacy gear… not just bind to legacy Companion use only. (That doesn’t include the weapons apparently.) Eric did mention that in the stream.. but I think that point may have gotten lost in translation. (So to speak.)

    • Darkojin

      Companions can wear anything, but it only affects the look now. Stats are based on your level and I believe your presence stat. Anything your companion is wearing at launch of the expansion will be mailed to you. I foresee many people with mountains of mail that day.

  • Disqus this

    “It is not optional, you cannot toggle off level sync.” First person that asks for help while Im on a planet gets told to go “F” themselves and they can invite BW to watch.

    They don’t like it? To bad, I don’t like level sync. They can go whine to BW about how bad someone was to them. Turning my level 65 jedi battle master into a padawan. “F” that.

    • Chyron HR

      “I’m going to serially harass other players and blame it on game mechanics I don’t like.” Yeah, clearly it’s Bioware’s fault you’re a misanthrope. I’m sure the GMs will see it that way.

      • Disqus this

        and I can’t wait to test it out. Bw wants to pull something as simple as making this optimal and force a down scaling. I’ll make sure I spread negativity as far as humanly possible every time it comes up.

        Optional would have been the best of both worlds. Not having the option at this point in SWTOR? “F” that.

    • Mashiro

      it give some sence to the game itself, nobody in the star wars universe said dromund kaas is a less dangerous place than voss (its just the order of the story modes). A laser bullet in the head worths the same in everyplanet planet and a padawan lightsaber cuts the same as a jedi knight’s lightsaber (?
      Now if you are just a numbers shitter that really don’t care about the game content well you are screwed my friend

      • Disqus this

        Sorry but my jedi battle master is better than those padawans on starter worlds or most others no matter how you spin the story. A laser bullet should be blocked by me as it does when I’m higher level. no lightsaber cuts like it should but in this game, my higher level toons does it better or at least he did till BW screwed him over.

        If it was a numbers thing only well, I might see your point. However, its a game play thing and this doesn’t sit well with me.

        • Mashiro

          you are just scared a rookie could cut your dick off with their trainning vibrosword XD

          • Disqus this

            Thats all you got? Take your mommas dick out of your mouth and come up with a better argument.

            • Mashiro

              you still here? kiddos time has ended, ssh shh fuck off, go to drink your milk or else

              • Disqus this

                Ahh I see you still got that dick in your mouth. Get a better argument and maybe well let you stay up tonight.

              • Mashiro

                still talking about dicks, pervert gay dude, see you in the arena if you have the balls (?

              • Disqus this

                Says the dumbass that brought it up. What are you? Stupid or something.

                “Mashiro Disqus this • 20 hours ago
                you are just scared a rookie could cut your dick off with their trainning vibrosword XD”

              • Mashiro

                was just a saying, I could have said head, arm or leg but dick was more funny. The point is shut up pve shitter! hide in a church and keep crying ssh shh (?

    • Naq

      Level sync as an excuse to act like a tit….

      • Disqus this

        Its a start.

        • Naq

          I am going to bet you probably didn’t need one.

          • Disqus this

            Up until this point, no not really. Now I do.

  • Adam

    I wonder if the planetary lvl thing was made in response to gold farmers/sellers. It would hit them pretty hard.

  • Ahmet Yılmaz

    Event rewards are overpriced right?

    • Mashiro

      people selling reward items in gtn for 10mil in 3,2,1..

      • Dru Ilhares

        Won’t work on the legacy-bound gear.

        • Mashiro

          I meant the “coin” items like completed bounty contract, thats the only one people could sell i think

  • Mashiro

    if kotfe is free for sub, what happens if a lvl f2p buys a sub? it gets the 3 expansions? or will have to buy sor individually?

    • Zenahk

      The xpac will start a episodic system. When you sub, you get access to all episodes, When you unsub, you keep your episodes but no longer receive new ones until you resub. I assume the 3 xpacs will be rolled in like hutt cartel currently is.

      • Mashiro

        thanks for the reply, a couple of friends want to start the game but dont know if buy SoR now or sub later and get it for free :P

    • JeremyR

      Right now you get Rise of the Hutt Cartel for subbing (and have for a year) and when KotFE goes live you also get Shadows of Revan.

  • Ahmet Yılmaz

    You don’t need to complete anything before Fallen Empire.
    How about Ilum,Oricon,Czerka,Ziost? what will happen to those story missions?

    • Ree

      I think you’ll lose the story missions, but not the dailies. So my guess is that you automatically unlock the daily missions of each area, but are unable to do the story quests after you start Fallen Empire.

  • Ahmet Yılmaz

    will there be legacy exploration. I hate explorering planets over and over again

  • Yarazin

    What if I want to try and solo a low level World boss? Is that now impossible?

    • Disqus this

      Possible? Yes. Likely to happen? Not very likely with you being down scaled.

      The only solo content is going to be what BW designs specifically for it. Probably all those Solo FP with the God-bot.

      • Yarazin

        I just cant get behind a non optional sync. What if I want to go through the old planets just to clear up stuff, I may WANT it to be easy, and not getting knocked off my ride all the time. Bad call IMO Bioware, it should be optional.

        • Disqus this

          You are now told “To “F”ing bad”

          You will take the challenge no matter what. You may not have ever wanted it, you may have wanted an easy evening of just rampant fun and entertainment killing so low level mobs for a particular green item.

          Oh well. Your entertainment and fun just took a nose dive so BW can force you to have a speed bump on a starter world.

  • https://www.youtube.com/user/vulcan746 Connor R

    Level sync, been preaching that since launch. Finally…..this means anyone can lvl 1-60 on any planet now.

    • Donald J. Trump

      I’m pretty sure it’s downsync and not upsync:)

      • Disqus this

        Correct. You’re not getting bolstered up. It only brings you down. high level gamers that already finished a planet will now find all that time wasted as they are down scaled when they step off their ship.

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/vulcan746 Connor R

          Time wasted? *facepalm* You have how many more attacks? How many more companions? How many more materials will you get from nods? Guild Wars 2 does this and it is awesome.

          • Disqus this

            I’d be playing GW2 if it was that awesome. I’m not and I’m not saying the down scaling shouldn’t be there. It just needs to be optional.

      • https://www.youtube.com/user/vulcan746 Connor R

        It’s really called Map-sync. I only said level sync because it’s what they are calling it.

  • Emilio

    And Alderaan? Remember alderaan have two max level (28-32) and (40-41)

    • Crackseed

      The idea is that you go to the highest level the planet needs so I’d think that factors in the bonus sections.

      • Jo

        That’d be like 55-60 for some then. Anything on the Seeker Droid/Macrobinoculars quest chains. Wonder if they thought about that?

        Probably not.

  • Donald J. Trump

    Finally, WB fights will become a thing again :D

  • SupRun

    Okay I’m not sure where I stand with the new character limit. I have 13 characters of 13 slots available. Does this mean I get a free extra slot for my new 60 or am I forced to buy a character slot for my new 60 (I’m a sub.)

    • Seph

      You get one extra free slot.

      • SupRun

        TY. Do you (or anyone else) know if Ziost counts as “you cannot go back and complete them again.” And then the 192 armor from the Yavin weekly will be BoL? What’s the point if you already have 192 armor from the ops? I feel like I’m missing something there.

        • SupRun

          Also, what are the new gear tiers? I heard 204, 208, 216 from a friend but didn’t see it here. Less than a month away we should get some kind of stuff about gear. Also if operations are all scaled to 65 which ops will drop what?
          A lot of questions still to be answered.

        • Dru Ilhares

          I believe he addressed this during the stream. All SoR/RotHC content is locked out, as is your class story and main planetary arcs, if you leap into KotFE. (edit: Without having finished them first, obviously). Dailies/Heroics will remain available, as will area missions.

          • SupRun

            I didn’t watch any of the stream, came here for the notes I can read in 5 minutes instead of taking 2 hours to watch the whole stream.
            However, for Makeb, I have never finished the entire storyline. Would that mean I am permanently locked out of Makeb dailies? (I hate Makeb, so it’s more of a hypothetical. If you never finish SoR, would the Yavin dailies unlock? They don’t until you complete “The Enemy Within” either solo or via ToS.)

        • Voltzorn

          The point of the Yavin companion armor being usable for the characters is so you dont outright use it, plus it would be nice to mail to new characters, should you have/start any new characters. As it is, its already BtL and I would assume that they aren’t going to change the level 55 requirement on it

          • SupRun

            So basically if i start a toon I have no legacy gear already ready for, I have a highly outdated set of 192 armor. Almost like starting 3.0 in full 168 gear, if not 162. Glad I already have legacy gear everywhere.

            • Voltzorn

              the nice part about it would be a full set of 192 gear, save weapons, at level 55 and would give a chance to save the data crystals for the 65 gear. The companion gear may not be the best optimized, but that change is certainly aimed to assist those who plan on doing more levelling or who may not have tons of legacy gear hoarded from years of gameplay.

              • SupRun

                I’ve not even got 2 full years of gameplay but I knew it would be smart to have gear to send over when you had pieces on other toons. Some people just don’t get it, that’s their problem.

    • Lumi

      Fairly certain they said you will not need to purchase a new slot or delete a current character if you are already at the limit.

  • Pam Corson

    I don’t like the changing of lvls for planets u vist. It’s bad enough they are basicly removing the option to craft for conquest now they are making it so we can’t take our high lvl toons down to whatever planet might have heroic conquest rewards and do the heroics solo. Why does swtor not like ppl who just want to help out our guild with just pve and by ourself. I like not having to deal with drama.

    • Naq

      What a lovely opportunity to learn to use CC and interrupts and maybe make a friend…in an mmo of all places.

      (also, that planets highest level mobs, are barely green to you…so…yeah…)

      • Adam Haynes

        There’s times I help guildies because I can drop a 60 into NS and blaze them through it even though I need to leave for work in 20 minutes. The down level means no use helping so I simply won’t. Stupid idea and bound to hurt not help the social element IMO

        • TheBBP

          I wouldn’t exactly call speeding a few people through something as fast as you can so that you can log off being”social”.

        • Sibakero

          Exactly this. Lots of people think this will revive interest in older planets, but in fact, will kill it. When I hit 65, getting my ass kicked when I run into a group of level 27 mobs while helping out a lower leveled guildie/friend because auto level-sync is another big reason to not go back and visit Alderaan. There will be people who will re-visit planets and there are others who will simply not. Auto level-synching will just be a nuisance.

          • Naq

            I guess I am just not feeling the sympathy here. I solo most Heroic 2’s, if I can stealth sometimes even the odd Heroic 4. And theres only 1 heroic 4 in the whole game I didn’t duo….so…I dont wanna be one of those people who are all “Git gud!” but…seriously the mobs are going to be outleveled by you anyway. I dont think you guys realise that. Have confidence Atrehu….

      • Pam Corson

        I have to be personal in real life. Why can’t I just enjoy playing by my self. It might be a mmo but most of the game is designed as a solo story game.

    • Donald J. Trump

      You can still solo heroics but it will be a little more challenging. To be fair, you could solo heroics even before the level sync but it was pretty difficult :D

  • Saint

    Companions on cartel Market

    Combat companions, no storyline, cannot be used to sell trash.

    Can be found inside cartel packs or on the GTN from other players

    This is becoming pocket monster…Go!!!! Pikachu !!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Dru Ilhares

      Yeah, the only bonus I see to this is they’ll shut the hell up and you don’t risk any affection gain/loss as a result of conversations. Not really a useful thing, unless I can have my pet dog and Mako out at the same time.

  • Hunterr

    So are those aa options new to the exp? Or the ones that just got updated? Because the highest now is a blurry mess.

  • Adam Haynes

    All I wanted to know was if new lvl 60s get Darth or Master titles so I know if I should get my last couple “Darth’s” past epic story before launch. Does anyone know?

    • Dread Master Ozariah

      After creating new 60 lvl character, all your story content for this character will be auto-completed. So yes, you should get all titles from your story.

      • McNooberton

        Tait replied in chat saying titles wouldnt be granted to those who bumped a toon to lvl 60

      • Dru Ilhares

        Actually, Eric pretty much said exactly the opposite during the stream. It gets locked out, you can’t go back to complete it. If you didn’t do it, while it’s technically in the past, it is not done. It will not count towards any completion of the class events.

        • Dread Master Ozariah

          Thats strange, because before that were a words, that new 60 lvl created chars will be a canon-versions with canon made chooses.

    • Sevus

      According to what was said at TwitchCon, new level 60s will not receive the titles associated with their class stories. So if you want a Darth, you should probably work on that now.

    • Adam Haynes

      Ok cool, looks like consensus is there are no titles so I’ll get in my 12x cram for those last few Darth’s. Thanks for responding all of you.

  • LilithB

    I liked everything, except the level sync. As a soloer, this is gonna make it harder. They took a step forward before with solo dungeons, and now a step back with level syncing. I guess they want to force more people to group for content. Something that has never worked for any developer in a mmorpg. Some of us always solo and will never group for anything. Others do both and some do only group content. People are different, BW, you just need to deal with that.

    • TheBBP

      I tried to get in before someone shed tears about not being able to solo group heroics. Dang.

    • Sevus

      Despite the level sync, Eric was easily handling enemies in the Heroic mission he chose to demonstrate the system, and even when he was surprised by a respawn while talking to the steam, was never in any real danger. Soloing content still looks to be possible.

  • Zenahk

    Really don’t like the treasures of events past requiring gree parts. I don’t do gree events, a single hour attempting them turned me off the event forever.

    • BrianDavion

      you realize the PVP stuff is 100% optional right?

  • Sibakero

    Love most of the changes, but I really, really think they should reconsider making level-sync optional, period. A lot of people love the “carrot-on-a-stick” grind for gear/levelling-up system that is the staple of most MMOs, auto level-sync takes a big dump on that. I, like so many others, wouldn’t like to get 1 shotted on my speeder as I traverse the Dune Sea, because i’m looking for a piece of dreadseed armour. As someone who Marr respects in terms of skill and prowess(story-wise), I want to feel as powerful as I have a right to be as the Empire’s WRATH. Not get eaten alive by a level 8 Sleen when I go to Dromund Kaas and “pay a visit to the Dark Council.”

    Just the simple thing of making it optional, they’ll make everyone, whatever they’re playstyle is, happy. You want to level 1-60 on Oricon, click that level-sync. You want to feel challenged and do Black Talon with 3 of your friends and wipe? Turn that leve-sync on. You want to run through Kaon under Siege and grab all adds from beginning to end and kill them all in one AOE? Click that Shit.

    Please, if it’s not too late, make it optional. Please.

    • Disqus this

      Yea, its got to be optional. Otherwise, all that time you put into leveling means jack shit and BW pretty much said, “F” you. Go back to any planet you leveled and you’re max level, battle master is now a padawan.

      Making it optional would be been the best of both worlds for gamers who wanted both types of game play.

      • OutlawBandit

        Leveling unlocks more content. It’s not designed to let you go back to the noob farm and one shot lvl1 mobs.

        • Disqus this

          Funny because that exactly what we have been doing for years and it’s not broken any of those gamers nor been what causes gamers to leave them. Not just in SWTOR but other games. There is a reason for leveling. It’s to show an incremental power progression. Your toon actually getting better. Now, you go back to a starter world, all you got is a few extra buttons but the rest is down scaled. HP’s, armor, power, pretty much damn near everything.

          There is little entertainment in that experience if it’s something you don’t enjoy. You’re not forced to pvp, I’m shocked BW thought forcing a down scaling was some amazing thing to force on gamers.

          It needs to be optional. Best of both worlds.

    • Okamakiri

      I wouldn’t mind it being optional for PVE, but as soon as anyone decides to engage in any kind of PVP, it should not be optional. Preventing high lvl losers from griefing low lvl players is a good thing.

      • sentientomega

        Yes, it should auto-sync when flagged, definitely; with the down-scaling mechanism neutralising expertise…

      • Robert Davis

        Downside on there is the conquest kill targets are all lvl 60.. and boss level champions at that.

        The first downgrade is going to force them to rework those specif guards of they’ll killing that portion of the conquest system as well.

        I honestly, have a very funny feeling that come oct 20.. there are going to be a large amount of flooded complaints coming in about the stuff this bolster is going to end up breaking because they didn’t catch it in their redesign.

        (Will just have to wait & see… and be thorough in our checking of those issues as soon as we’re able to.)

    • Joakim Sjösten

      Look at the stream. He did a heroic with level-sync and the Gold and silver mobs went down as normal mobs.

      You still have all skill trees perks and abilities so while you may be level synced to lets say 18 you won’t be at the same power as if you were actually level 18.

      Story/Immersion/RPG wise, you still shouldn’t be able to one shot things even as the Empire’s Wrath since a lightsaber don’t get stronger and a mob who was able to take hits from a lightsaber before shouldn’t magicly die instantly from one hit.

  • Gr1m

    I’m…really excited about a lot of this. It’s clear that they’re actually listening to what the community wants, on a whole range of things. Simplified main stats was inevitable, really (though I admittedly have mixed feelings about tank secondary stats now making up so much of the total stat list), legacy datacrons is a REALLY welcome addition, god knows it’s been asked for long enough. But it’s other stuff as well. Little things like the changes to cloaks on mounts, and getting them to work right is a REALLY nice touch. Priority transports for heroics is awesome. Reintroduction of old event gear, I’m also really happy about, and the changes to the interface editor are awesome too. There’s a lot of little stuff being introduced with the expansion that goes far beyond the solo story content and really helps to improve the time you actually spend playing online, so all in all I’m really excited by this. All in all, we’re actually getting a hell of a lot considering this is a free expansion, after all!

    Finally, here’s the thing with downscaled levels. You’ve still got massive advantages. You’re at the highest level you can do the content at. So you’re still significantly overleveled for the content anyway, and everyone who has played through the game should know by now that being a few levels over minimum or optimal range still puts you leagues above where you should be.

    Also consider most heroics are still designed to be doable with a party of four, at the optimal level, in green gear. If you’re running those heroics in a downscaled 60-65, you’ve still got the advantages of your full talent tree, all of your abilities and perks unlocked, AND you’ll most likely be running in comms gear and probably augments as well. Are they going to be scaled down? Sure, but it’s not going to scale you down to the level of someone in full greens with only a handful of abilities.

    You still have much better gear and far more abilities and perks than the content is designed for. It should still be a cakewalk for you to run content while downscaled – if anything, all it’ll do is ensure that you actually play the game and pay attention to the mechanics a little rather than just waltzing through using your basic attack and not paying any attention. You’ll be playing the game, not just walking through the motions.

  • Pubtard

    So I need to get this straight, do I need to complete all class stories before the expansion to get legendary title or will I still be able to get the title after expansion is out as long as I complete the character from lvl1? It sounds like all story missions are getting wiped…

    • Robert Davis

      That appears to me to be something that will be permanent. If you get through chapters 1-3 on all 8 classes even afterwards… you’ll get that legendary icon. (Not technically a title)

    • Darkojin

      Reread that section of the page. The class/story missions are wiped if you start the new expansion content, which should mean only on that character. If you want that icon, don’t start the new content until you finish what you want out of the old content (on a per character basis).

  • Jo

    Level sync is probably one of the dumbest things they’ve come up with. They’re pushing SWTOR more and more as a single player story experience, but this sort of thing pushes it backwards into forced grouping. When forced into the situation, people who normally play solo aren’t going to suddenly group, they’re just not going to do it.

    It’s also another nail in the coffin of conquest. They’re removing repeatable crafting (which admittedly makes sense), but now also removing the ability for higher levelled character to solo the heroics for repeatable conquest points. Now it really will be forced PVP and PVE group content. BioWare is losing me and how I remain engaged with the game on a weekly basis with these changes. I’ll be completing them all fully before the changeover and then I’m done.

  • Saint

    They should start a vote for Level sync system, over 90 percent people is gonna say NO to this “NEW” update. And I really don’t feels like getting kill by a lv8 crap when i work my ass off so hard to level 60 coz people now CAN PAY TO WIN TO BUY A lv60 TOON!!!!!!!! Star wars is not gonna take your money and shut up this time, they re gonna bleed you dry and still give the players A VERY PAIN THE ASS. Game is all about enjoyment, and when its not anymore, guess what? No more player into your stupid game ,star wars :(

    • Jaako

      So for you enjoyment is faceroll over keyboard in low level characters? You can press only key 1 and still be able to do everything 10lvl under your level. Level sync is great idea and if it will give you xp still based on your level it’s great. Plus you will get huge ammount of comms from heroic – would be pretty stupid to just faceroll it and get those comms no? Also it’s ment to be multiplayer game so soloing everything on planets was just stupid. Level sync works pretty well in GW2 and if SWTOR will give you loot on your level (I hope it will) It will be awesome feature.

  • Christopher Luther

    Okay, I like the idea of level sync but it absolutely needs to be optional. Period.

    • Disqus this

      Sorry but you’re going to go back to a starter planet and be the highest level of the planet. You’re going to be padawan again with a few extra skills on your hotbar. Lowered HP, lowered AC, lowered to hit, pretty much lower everything because you got nostalgic or wanted to go back and cheese that friend you have 20 alts rush through something. Sorry bud. You’re screwed.

      Wont that be so exciting?

      • Robert Davis

        The point from that standpoint.. is if you get a friend involved in the game.. and want to run with them through their story… You wouldn’t have to start a new toon.. and play-through it all over again re-earning what you’d already done.

        I get that… I like that. And it’d be an excellent reason for it to be optional.

        I get that they want the heroics to be a challenge for everyone since they’re adding this new weekly, giving lvl appropriate gear for your character to go back & do them. Otherwise, they’d be essentially free upgrades.

        I honestly get all that.

        My problem with it being forced is both the World bosses… (Which annoys me.. but I admit I could get over, cause I know it’s intention. World bosses SHOULD require groups.)

        What I DON’T like it for.. is on the planets in which the Seeker Droid (Dreadseed) quests have much higher lvl mobs in the open world on the planet. (Specifically Alderaan and Hoth as much as anything.) Forcing people down to ‘regularly’ appropriate level makes searching for the dreadseed and star forager armors would be impossible. (Not just difficult.. but Impossible.)

        But, if you leave the max lvl setting at the appropriate level for that content, Then the world bosses and heroics once again become greyed out & super easy to solo. Defeating the purpose of level sync.

        If they can rectify those two things… saving the Seeker Droid/Macrobinocular quests for future players… and allowing for the lvl sync to be ‘relatively’ fair… I’d be very happy.

        I just don’t think they’re thinking about that…. or if they are… they’re just going to up and yank out those quests. (And leave the seeker/macro quests on places like Rishi & Hoth purely based on the provided quest icon.)

        • OutlawBandit

          I would assume all of the mobs on the planets will be made in the same level range.
          The idea was that you put new content on a level 20 world for a lvl50, you made the mobs lvl50. Now instead of making the mobs at the player level, they’re making the player go down to the planet level. So it would make sense for the Dreadseed mobs to be scaled down to the level of the planet they’re on.

          • Robert Davis

            That would be a reasonable fix. Again, it’s something I will be definitely checking on very quickly after all these changes go into effect. (At least for the dreadseed/macrobinocular related stuff.)

            That doesn’t fix the bonus series issue though.

            Unless the level sync only goes into effect if you’re like 10 lvl’s or more above the areas mob level.

            Alderaan’s lvl 40+ bonus series stuff. (Which contains one of those datacrons)

            Hoth’s lvl 50 bonus series stuff. (Which also contains datacrons)

            If the sync # of fluid based off the area of the planet you are on.. which is possible though potentially problematic if they don’t pay close attention to how they code it. Then it’ll work out great overall.

            I just don’t trust them to get it right. (Based off experience.).. it’s something I think will finally work as intended 6 months to a year from now. (Possibly longer given the assumed size of their staff.. and the importance of regular chapters being released after the first of the year.)

            • OutlawBandit

              I’d assume the bonus Alderaan stuff would scale down to match the rest of the planet. You just wouldn’t get the missions until you’re 40+. When you go to do them you’ll get sync’d to lvl30s, so it would work.
              It’s a good thing. Many times I missed out on the bonus stuff because I didn’t notice I overlevelled the content. Now I can go back at any time because no matter when I go back I’ll get sync’d to the content.

              • Robert Davis

                So long as he wasn’t mistaken when he said that only your class story (And not all ‘purple’ missions from 1-50) will be locked as soon as you start Fallen Empire.

                I don’t think so, cause he was very specific about the individual planetary arcs.. when he got around to describing the quest icon changes. But, it doesn’t mean that he may not have been mistaken. (Going back and doing Pub Taris after FE would be weird.. because of Saresh and all.)

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/vulcan746 Connor R

      The sentence at the end of the article about the “not optional” should never have been said in the first place. It is either the map-sync or not at all and you know it. If it was actually optional, the glaring difference would end up destroying the map-sync concept. Why would anyone even have to worry when helping out friends, if it got too hard they would just flip the “switch” and blow up everything.

      • Christopher Luther

        Then they would get no rewards for it, so what would be the point?

  • sentientomega

    Dulfy, do you know what will become of the HK parts from the FPs, will we have to group up to get them, or will they make them available in the soloable versions as well?

    • Darth-Robin

      you probably are forced to group for the hm version

      • sentientomega

        I remember when I had to group for the HK parts in 2013, I was still relatively new to the game, and yet I felt like I was the only person who had any remote idea as to how to play. I had all 156s, except for one 124 enhancement, everyone else was 50 and under-geared. Grouping for it is going to be an utter waking nightmare…

        • Robert Davis

          Hardmodes are getting a similar bolster as other places.. it won’t be as painful as it was back then.

          And yea, I had moments like that as well.

          • Darth-Robin

            HM flashpoints gonna be 65 only and not get any type of bolster so gear up again if you wanna get hk part from lvl 65 foundry/mealstrom prison

            • Robert Davis

              You’re SO very wrong there.

              Hardmodes are open for 50-65. They’d be impossible if there wasn’t some sort of bolster.

              • Darth-Robin

                after re-reading that post again you are half right they are open to lvl 50-65 but they will be impossible to complete with lvl 50 players as they do not have all the tools and utility points to complete said hms even with bolster

              • Robert Davis

                Again, you are wrong. They bolster the tactical modes already. You’re still spitting out wrong info.

                What the reality will turn out to be.. it may be difficult… but they know they need to take the ‘lack of utility into account.” they already did it with the tactical group finder. It won’t be any different with the hardmode.

        • Darth-Robin

          i remember being able to take my sweet time soloing foundry/mealstrom prison hm for hk part now after 4.0 if i want to get hk i am forcedt to sub for a month just to get back mealstrom prison and foundry hm in order to complete the quest for hk and i paid for the accountwide option for section x with cartel coins

  • http://ipxpd.enjin.com/ Ortus

    It seems Master Tyrans cast “Simplification” on the Stats. :-P

  • guest

    Bring back the old event gear is nice but it costs way too damn much in terms of tokens, especially the bounty contracts. 5 of each should be plenty for a piece of gear, they way overdid it on the cost.

    Lots of nice QOL changes like legacy crons, QT to heroics, speeder at level one, increased com caps.

    Crafting changes, i’ll wait and see. They havent revealed a whole lot yet, form mined info seems to be somewhat streamlined but an extra step added to craft components for everything. So from what i can infer, with drop of 4.0 all that useless neutronium in my banks will magically turn into electrum. Interesting.

    Level sync: Not at all a fan, but I can see why they are doing it, as the new grind for 4.0, the yet to be revealed alliance system, likely chiefly involves re-running old planetary content, and facerolling it just isnt going to be grindy enough. As long as I can solo the old H4’s without having to resort to respeccing to tank or heal I will learn to live with it. Going to miss soloing some of those world bosses though.

    I would be much more okay if there was more (any) new content to run at level 65 besides the story arc. Having shiny new 216-224 gear and nothing to use it to its full potential with will make me a sad panda.

    So here’s what I infer from new leveling system: XP from class and planetary arc missions has been adjusted to replace just the class 12x. So like 6x for class and 6x for planetary arc from vanilla game. So likely will take about twice time of 12x to go 1-50, Or about same as double xp weekend, and if they ever do another double xp weekend will be like having 12x again.
    I’m assuming planets like ilum and makeb which class and planet story are the same will be like 12x? maybe a little less since 12x on makeb is enough to go from 50-57/58.

    • Alex G

      For the Old Event Armor, I know that Eric said in the livestream, that the prices aren’t set, since he was playing on their own test server. So, chances are the prices will go down to something normal at launch.

    • Robert Davis

      He did state that the prices are subject to change.. and probably would.

      That could be just to keep the flames coming up… but I do agree on that point.. but I’m waiting to look at the official prices before I pitch a fit over that particular thing.

      Another one is… Rare content.. is supposed to be rare. So it would be more expensive than the standard stuff that’s always been there… but I don’t thik it had to be THAT expensive. (Where some of them showed as 50 of each… especially given how rare the gree event rolls around.)

  • guest

    Will be interesting to see what level you will be nerfed down to for each planet, especially the ones with the oddball bonus series. Would be interesting to get a list.

    Like Nar Shadda, planet 20-24, bonus series 30-31. Alderann 28-32, bonus 40. Hoth 37-40, bonus 47. Belsavis 41-44, bonus 50. An exhaustive list would be well appreciated, some content will be harder than other content because the level gaps are going to be quite different.

    • Mashiro

      maybe the sync activates while in a specific area instead of the whole planet? I dont really how those things work

    • OutlawBandit

      I would think that the bonus content will be matched to the regular content of the planet. You just won’t get the option to do the bonus content until you get to the right level, and when you go back to the planet you’ll be sync’ed to the difficulty of the planet.

    • Michael Ring

      Well Guild Wars 2 does it by the area your in so I would think that’s how bioware will do it, but who knows for sure.

  • doncalls

    How dare them bring back the rare Chevin stuff,i grinded for those items,when i link them in fleet and wear my bloodstained armor i do it with pride that there is few with them.

    Those crossbows and such but be a VERY steep price!

    • doncalls

      FYI i am joking but i do have all the Chevin stuff,it was neat having them then being they are Legacy but that has kinda went away with so many other Legacy type items.

      • Mashiro

        i believe 20% of the current players were playing the game while that event went live, I see no harm :P
        I think they should give you a medal for supporting the game since the beggining, you know like a veteran thing, would be nice

        • doncalls

          I have been asking over at the official forums for some type of award for those that have been subbed since early release etc,,EQ2 gave things for every year subbed etc,,i think i let my sub lapse once for about a week.

          • Mashiro

            1 week? man that stain will never be cleaned! (I sub once a year for 2 months XD)
            seriously, veteran players should get a title or something like that because of account activity

            • doncalls

              Nah i consider it supporting the game,now did i play every week etc?

              Nope i often do not play for two months during the summer etc but i find the 17 bucks for a monthly sub cheap,,i spend more on parking in a week for instance.

              • Mashiro

                honestly the first friendly fun person I found here *hugs* :)
                and well your account still a really old one. Where I live there is no charge for parking in almost every city (there are private parking things tho) but my shitty coin doesn’t allow me to sub every month >.<
                pref status is fun tho, It's like "hard mode" open world :P

              • doncalls

                Oh don’t get me wrong i use the public transportation sometimes,i live in Bellevue Wa next to Redmond where Microsoft is but i work across the bridge in Seattle and during the winter fall it rains a lot and the traffic can get very bad so i bus often then.

                I understand people with tight budgets,trust me i do,i recently purchased my nephew a three month sub he has two kids and his job cut back hours.

              • Mashiro

                a just own a bicycle :P
                Microsoft rules :P
                when I said shitty coin I meant u$s 1 = $10 arg. Imagine you have to pay 170 monthly instead of 17 :P
                subs are cute for endgame(unlimited wallet, unlimited warzones, unlimited ops time), you can really play the game entirely without one but everything is more powerfull with the sub (excepting in a warzone, money doesnt have place there) :P

      • Dru Ilhares

        I get the humor, but I am truly thankful it has returned. The Scrapper, much as I loved it, has never dropped for me on Makeb (though friends have gotten it) and thanks to the server merges & purges, I had to recreate my original main tank, so I lost the old goodies there. I may never get my title back, but replacing the speeder is a nice bonus.

        And being able to finally get that !@#! belt to finish off my containment set from the 1st Rakghoul event. A shame I can’t sell back half a dozen of the bowcasters for credit at that vendor. First weapons in the game to ever sport Legendary quality barrels, and they’re nigh useless.

        • doncalls

          I never got the containment armor,it just didnt appeal to me,i may look into grabbing it now though,,that is if the price is reasonable.

      • AbnerDoon

        I hope they remove the 50 requirement on some of the old legacy gear they are bringing back. I finally rerolled a sniper a couple months back and was so sad I couldn’t use the assassins touch bowcaster.

        • doncalls

          Yah the Touch is the higher and then there is the mid and lower,,i know when moving stuff i lost one of the barrels on one.

  • GSF4Lyfe

    Okay, two things: Level sync on all planets? including daily planets like oricon, section X?
    #2: “Heroic Moment abilities also have been rebalanced to make them better.” NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I love my 18k legacy choke and 6k dirty kick when an imp tries to gank me. I can see this being less fun :(

    • Shaun Salisbury

      Yes the level sync exists on all the areas of every planet.

  • OutlawBandit

    I see levelSync as being a good idea. Now I can actually have fun helping lowbies instead of facerolling content half-asleep. I offer help when people ask for help, but I hate whispering “I can help you, but you won’t get any xp for killing mobs”.
    Maybe it should be optional, but I’m glad this is actually a thing now. I always thought SWTOR was missing something like this, because I loved the mentoring system in EQ2.

    • doncalls

      Here here i too played EQ2 for almost six years i believe (never played WoW) the mentoring system and the Sync are very close and people will see a good thing imo.

    • Robert Davis

      I get that, And I consider that to be a major plus as well.

      But as I mentioned and you replied to further down. It’s not w/o it’s pitfalls, in terms of being content breaking.

      As I said, your solution makes a great deal of sense. But, it’s not the only issue. The bonus Series’ missions were intended, not only to be done at the end of the planet.. but in some cases coming back afterwards.

      Alderaan & Hoth, I see are their biggest gaps. The Nar Shaddaa stuff, isn’t as bad… because IIRC, everything revolving around the seeker/macro stuff either spawns in at your lvl.. up to a cap… or is instanced. And in the instance itself, the level sync can be turned off. (Honestly I thought they’d make the lvl sync instanced only.)

      • Jo

        None of the dreadseed areas are instanced. The attacks by the Shroud’s droid also aren’t spawned at level, although being killed by him doesn’t impact whether or not you scanned the Shroud’s observation droid.

        • Robert Davis

          Hmm, I thought when I first did it.. he’d spawn in at 51-52.. cause that’s what lvl I was when I first did it.. but wouldn’t spawn in higher than lvl 55 when I started back.. because I was already lvl 60.

      • OutlawBandit

        I replied further down, but to recap… bonus mobs scale to the rest of the planet, but missions are not available until a certain level. When you do back at a higher level you get sync’d to the content. Assuming that’s how it would work.

  • Magus13x

    In regards to Level Synch: “The level will be highest level you can do the content at.” – In other words, you’ll still be several levels above the mobs and whatnot. It won’t be a huge deal.

  • DeepSleeper

    Oh man. This is terrible. Now I can’t go back to the starting planet, strip completely naked, take all my ability off my hotbar, hit respec so I’ve got no points in passives, unsummon my companion and AFK for a half hour for a sandwich without getting brought to 75% health by a Flesh Raider!
    How can anyone consider that acceptable?

    • Naq

      First world problems…literally. On the first world.

  • Brianac

    So anything on this “better than cross server” shit??

    • Shaun Salisbury

      It’s never going to happen just accept it.

      • Brianac

        Why did they mention it if its never going to happen?

        • Shaun Salisbury

          To make you believe that they are actually going to do something when in reality they aren’t.

  • doncalls

    Anyone complaining about the lvl synch either did not watch the stream or just plain stink, Musco was destroying stuff with THREE BUTTONS!,,you are fail if you whine about it.

    • guest

      Looks like everything that was an H4 is also now an H2+. I remember the mobs being quite a bit thicker for friends of old.

      The faceroll is just getting nerfed a bit. If they actually took the time to rebalance all of these old heroics, kudos to them for putting in the work.

  • http://ipxpd.enjin.com/ Ortus

    Wanna go kill the Outpost Thorazan Commander (assumed to be scaled down as well) for Conquest Objectives with your guild? Nope, coz now even one or a few lowbies can decide to be total pricks as they can now actually interfere and kill scaled down Level 65 you or your scaled down Level 65 teammates, instead of just leaving you and your team alone because they can’t possible take you on.

    Got 2 lowbie friends who are Level 30s and they wanna take down Trapjaw on Tatooine and you were gonna bring your 65 to faceroll it for the ease? Nah… because now with level-sync, you have to wait to gather a full team, or just forget about doing it because no one bothered to come help the 3 of you.

  • TheBBP

    We could open a really nice upscale bar with all of the whine in here.

  • Ithurel

    Still no word on changes to play level tiers? A level 30 vs a 64 doesn’t seem inviting.

    • Ithurel

      PVP level tiers. Sorry.

  • Havik79

    So, where does level sync start, can I still do blackhole weekly solo?, I like BH, its rather quick and nets decent credits.

    • Shaun Salisbury

      The down scale is on every planet from the starter ones till the later ones.

    • FrostHammer

      Thats what I am wondering too. I farm dailies (for a steady supply of credits) on Black Hole, CZ198, Oricon and Y4, which nets me around the ballpark of 520k (per toon) give or take a few stops to farm biochem mats and the like… I prefer to Solo all the dailies on those planets…. Will level sync affect any of this that much???.

  • Nakrrah

    So, it makes more sense that a jedi battlemaster can rape a sith lord with half a hit just because that sith lord happens to be on Alderaan, while exactly the same mob on Corellia takes 6 strikes… while, hopefully, with level sync, both take about that 6 strikes and hardly inconvenience you at all? I can see now that level synching will destroy all gameplay and galaxies will explode. Especially if you can’t farm the world bosses to extinction with single lvl 65’s, that’ll just ruin the game. Who wants to kill them like they’re supposed to be killed? “Optional level sync”…lol. I love mandatory level synch, and I hope it works out well.

    • p4v7

      Yeah, I have a good laugh when I read people complaining about downscaling being no-RP friendly that a mere gundark on DK can kill the Dark Council member… meanwhile, a silly animal on Rishi can fuck you up.

      • Nakrrah

        Quite so… if you manage to get killed by a gundark as a dark council member as it was shown on the stream, you really are doing something wrong.

  • Franx JeKo D’Aloia

    Anyone noticed that new heroic 2+ in the DK tab? It seems they added back the cut heroic 2+ from the Sith Temple that you can still access as mobs are there, but obviously there is no quest giver anywhere at this point.
    Also, that Samurai Sith set though..

    • Adam Milledge

      Yeah just looked at it so happy :)

  • Raphael Laurenge

    Lots of cool stuff in here… Tho’ I do wonder about what is gonna happen with our current gear stat at launch… This new mastery thing isn’t a problem as it replace base stats such as might, willpower, aim and cunning but the new critical hit and surge fusion have me worried a little bit…

    Also the cape clipping fix is finally here, as is the key-binding profiles. God it’s been years!

    And Legacy Datacron is probably the best thing so far ;)

    As for the level downscaling on planets, well, when he announced it, I was like “omfg, burn them all heretics at Bioware” but seeing how he got rid of elite mobs with headroll on the keyboard I’m not so worried. It could make things interesting again in a way.

    Also I must have this new armor for my Marauder…

    • Zakuak

      Yup yup and YUP and that armor was total FUCKYEAH for me haha

  • needsomemiracle

    >level sync
    Good thing I finished most of the “destroy 5000 opponents” achievements. Starting from low-level planets was a good idea in retrospect.

    • Nakrrah

      Yes, because I can tell you were slaughtered by those strong enemies on Corellia as a level 60… utterly undoable now, isn’t it?

      • Shadowofdeath

        Yeah but it’s not going to be any easier, grouping up 50+ into a stack then aoe’ing down simply won’t work now

        • Nakrrah

          Well, I might be wrong, but, for example, on the Black Hole the mobs are still green at lvl 60… so nothing might change there.

      • needsomemiracle

        (I’m capped at 55)
        It’s not Corellia that benefited from overleveling for me. It was on the starting planets, Taris, Balmorra and whatnot that this gap saved a lot of time. Clearing a group of mobs with a single aoe is significantly faster than dispatching them one by one. And when you gotta clear 3000 of those, it matters.

        • Nakrrah

          Well, I seem to recall that the respawns and driving around the planet made up for the time I saved… for example, on Black Hole, once you clear the trash, it usually respawns and you can just sit there…and kill away.

  • Lithari

    I can see it now when the expansion goes live.

    LF#M X operation, must have achievement for operation and must have completed all class stories. lol

  • Buch

    I’m not sure if anyone asked that question but correct me if I’m wrong.

    Musco said a couple of times during live streams that we can buy sub for a month to get access to all 9 chapters and then few months later we can buy it again to get access to rest that came out in the meantime.

    So, my question is about what will happen if i will for example end whole story on 3 characters and then my sub runs out? Will I automaticly lose access to the nine chapters on other toons? And more important, what will happen to EXP points? Will it be stopped or we will still be able to lvl by doing other stuff like warzones, flashpoints etc. ? ( ofc I’m asking about 60+ lvling )

    • EyesOfGehenna .

      no you always keep what you got. So if you do unsub, you still keep the 9 chapters. You will just have the usual f2p restrictions as they apply.

    • http://sw-tor.cz Aries_cz

      It is a permanent unlock, just like if you would buy SoR

    • p4v7

      Read FAQ on swtor.com/fallen-empire not that hard.

  • Aaxia

    So…. whats the point of adjusting the old level 50 OPs to level 65 – if all that old content is level synced anyways. -_-

    • EyesOfGehenna .

      because at level 65 you also get HM/NiM modes and level 65 gear in these ops

      • Nick Wenzel

        Nightmare will gone .So when you need some achievments you should run some of them now

        • EyesOfGehenna .

          No, not all Nightmare will be gone. EV and KP NiM will be gone but TfB, SaV, DF an DP NiM will still be there.

          • Dognim

            Explosive Conflict NiM should also stay i guess

          • SupRun

            Are all the mechanics staying the same? If so, it wouldn’t really be a “new” op.
            No one knew the mechanics in HM Rav/ToS until Zorz took OP BHs through them, but the HM mechs for most of the old ops are fairly well known and for most of them NiM is similar (not saying all, just some) so if they didn’t/don’t rework the ops it’s going to be the same as it was at 55 when those ops were 55.

  • Kyle Puttifer

    With regards to story missions being no longer available, do they mean class story, RotHC and SoR only, or do they mean Seeker Droid/Macrobinoculars, Czerka, Oricon and lvl 55 ops quests as well?

    • Nick Wenzel

      Story Missions yeah .Dailys are sidequest so they’re not going

      • Kyle Puttifer

        So I don’t have to begin a mad rush to do those along with bonus series as well? Awesome, I was worried about that.

        • Michal Brunclík

          not really sure about oricon cause they had main story maybe the story quests will disapear and u will hav edailies only

    • http://sw-tor.cz Aries_cz

      I don’t think Eric said anything about Bonus Series, those “might” count as main missions.
      However, they will stop being available only after you actively confirm you want to start KotFE story, not on the day when 4.0 lands

      • Robert Davis

        Planetary Bonus series missions could possibly be locked on you as well, depending upon your progress. (Since each of those quest chains are opened up by finishing that planets class quest arcs.)

        My personal mentality is, if it’s a one-off quest.. when in doubt.. finish it first.

  • FrostHammer

    I farm dailies (for a steady supply of credits) on Black Hole, CZ198, Oricon and Y4, which nets me around the ballpark of 520k (per toon and do them on like 16 toons throughout the week) give or take a few stops to farm biochem mats and the like… I prefer to Solo all the dailies on those planets…. Will level sync affect any of this that much???.

    • Timothy Pack

      probably make the 50 heroics like torvix require another person with ya again.

      • FrostHammer

        That’s really gonna suck… I hated sitting around asking for help with the heroics for dailies when I first started doing this stuff. I always got asinine replies or F**K Off! And I was 8/10 polite when I asked. and BH and CZ are usually deserted when I do those planets cuz thats the only time I get when Im not faced with reality….

        • Nakrrah

          Well, this culture of “need to solo everything” pretty much started at Torvix… once you could clear that on your own wearing the proper gear, looking for a group to do it started getting you snide remarks. Same for doing the Section X one with over three people in the group, you’d get a dozen replies of “y u not just 3-man itt?”…but no actual help. :D
          Still, I feel that if they actually require a group in the future, it will be easier to get one as well.

        • Naq

          If you can solo CZ and Ori now, you will still be able too later. CZ and oricon mobs are green, that’s all the sync will do.

      • Zakuak

        Ouch…ew, yeah I forgot about that. I love running Black hole. Keep in mind we keep all of our abilities and combat efficiencies so with nice gear we may still chew our way past the Torvix H4….probably not as fast as I run it now but..

    • Anna

      I’m afraid to ask, but when do you live?..

      • FrostHammer

        I don’t do dailies on all 16 toons, jeez… maybe like 3 or 4. I only do a 16 toon credit grind is when there are a few things I want on the GTN.

  • Chalupar

    Sorry for stupid question.. So if i have 8 characters (l1-55) and start play with new L60 KoTFE – they can’t play main story? or just that new one L60 can’t?
    (bad english, i know)

    • Dognim

      Only the Character that starts KotFE will be locked out of the Class and Main Story

      • Chalupar

        Thank you ;-)

        • Aiko

          Just gonna correct that.
          Let’s say you have a Level 60 Character. Who hasn’t finished the Class Story, Makeb Story, SOR Story and Ziost Story. If you now start KOTFE with him – you CAN NOT finish any of the other Stories. And also you don’t get them marked as done. I repeat.. if you start KOTFE without completing the other Story arks – you can NOT finish them with that character!

    • Dumb question

      This is probably obvious but it’s only IF I start KoTFE that I won’t be able to do previous class missions, right? If I want to do SoR first then start KoTFE even if I’m l 60, I’ll be able to right?

  • 4rrrrr

    Ok, why don’t you get other players to do the Heroics in daily areas (now before 4.0)?
    Correct, because most player can do them solo with a overleveled character.

    What will happen if they no longer can do that (with 4.0)?
    Correct, they will search for other players like you do!

    There is just one problem: There are many Heroics, spread all over the galaxy. So there will be unpopular areas with Heroics, where you will get nobody to help you. Especially on underpopulated sersers.

    With the godmode gone we have to relearn how to build groups. ;) That’s ok, but why is 4.0 making SWTOR into a single player game in everything else?

    • JeremyR

      No, people won’t group just because Bioware is forcing people to, They just won’t do heroics anymore.

      • Ben Gimson

        Agreed. I’ve got no interest in carrying other people along.

        • Nakrrah

          Yeah, it’s all about that. If you can’t solo it, you’re carrying someone through it because you can almost do it alone…

          • Ben Gimson

            Lose the attitude, I’m not interested in it.

      • Dognim

        Let’s wait and see how it plays out. It seems all the Heroics at the Terminal are 2+ and with a little Equip and Skill doable solo. So you might not need to group for them.

        • Zakuak

          Agreed, Eric had no issues during the stream taking out those Heroic NPCs on Kaas and Eric is a far shot form a BIS min/max purp’d out PVE God..

          I’m going to try and solo em all that’s for sure..

          • Darth-Robin

            lol DK being challenging excuse me while i laugh really hard in the corcer im sorry but if he really wanted to test this downlvlsync shit he should have done either voss or correlia or oricon heriocs but then again it would look real bad if musco wiped on some trash
            besides he had god mode on thats why he oneshotted it and took very very little damage i can assure you on live servers this will not be the case

            • Darth-Robin

              corner*

              :( dear dulfy why no edit mode for freshly made comments?:(

              • Robert Davis

                That’s a disqus issue.. not a dulfy issue.

                *Edit*

                That or you missed it. Cause I just edited this freshly made comment.

      • p4v7

        They will group because:
        1. People look for additional group content and heroics were long forgotten and obsolete because rewards were not scaled.

        2. Crystals.

        3. Instant transport. Convenience 100%

      • 4rrrrr

        When the Oricon Daily was new, people grouped. Why? Because 55 was the highest level and 156 the best gear. You had to do it, or you couldn’t finish the new daily.

        People just stopped grouping on Oricon because a level 55 char can solo the Heroic in ~172 gear or higher.

        They will group again, if it is necessary.

    • Nakrrah

      Yeah… I’m sure that if the heroics are the main way to get those comms you need, no one will never, ever do them… people won’t, like, go to planets and complete these heroics, maybe even grouping up because it’s fun and social and what people kinda do in mmo’s…And, if you haven’t noticed, the main story in this game is kinda single-player…has been since 2012. Or did you complete your entire storyline in a group of 4?

    • davidt0504

      They marketed SWTOR as being far more single player than it really ever has back pre-launch. They marketed this as a game that should be the spiritual successor to KotOR and would allow you to play as you wanted. If you wanted to play alone, then you could do that. If you wanted to play with friends, you could do that.

      Honestly, I’m glad Bioware is starting to put these systems in. Games should always move towards greater freedom in how you can play the game. The only thing I’ll say against that though is that yes, there are plenty of people who love to play in groups. Bioware needs to make sure they are giving them plenty of options to play the way they like as well and make sure they aren’t going to do something that will inadvertently gimp the grouping processes.

  • needsomemiracle

    http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/swtor-legacy-datacron-window1.jpg

    “Dromand Kaas”
    Someone needs to gets their spelling straight :P

    • Mashiro

      that’s the effort they put, they dont even know the planet names (in a regular keyboard the U is way far from A so I can’t really consider it a typo)

      • Rompe Himself

        Not to mention it showed Hutta with only two datacrons in the livestream when in actual fact there are three on Hutta.. Three Weeks away and looks like a fair bit is already being overlooked/missed. Amazing how bad their QA team are.

        • Mashiro

          yup, I dont know what game they are playing. And I still confused and stunned because of the mastery thing, i will say it till i play it first hand xD

          • Rompe Himself

            As far as I understand it, nothing has changed with Mastery replacing the 4 main stats only that idiot players can no longer incorrectly gear their toons (Agents with strength for example) because regardless of your class, you will now have Mastery as a main stat as will all gear in the game. Scrubs will just be harder to identify is all! :)

            • Zakuak

              I liked the main stat system but for sure this Mastery thing will slide right in and not get me all bent on change. If I like a piece of gear I can use it…..I’m liking that.

            • Mashiro

              seeing an agent with a sith chest piece and trying to get some juice from it was one of the fun things in the game :P

        • Michal Brunclík

          didnt they get rid of matrix shards datacrons? or something like that

        • Mashiro

          at least they wrote “datacrons” instead of “cosmic ancient cubic shits” :P

        • Mashiro

          wait wait a second! will datacrons now have “mastery” instead of willpower,etc?

    • João Victor Mazzei

      ermagehrd a taipoh *dais*

  • http://bludnation.com/ Badd Blud

    Liking all of these changes!

    Level-sync is something I’m going to like. My fear was with them redoing xp that leveling new toons would be a steam roll. I wish Blizzard had put this into WoW back when I played.

    Bare in mind I haven’t done all of the content in the game or all of the class stories so my perspective is different than many of you.

    Also equal level pvp on planets may be fun. Not so easy to gank.

    Combat pets are going to be cool too. Just a new credit sync and something to collect. Hopefully it’s some cool characters and not just animals (did I miss anything there?).

    • Nakrrah

      Yeah, I also think it will bring some life to the game.

  • Fuck off Level sync

    Get the fuck out with forced level sync. Not everyone wants to be scaled down to go through old fucking content.

    • Lithari

      Nah, they just want to 1-shot everything and make it all too easy. lol

    • p4v7

      “Not everyone” you mean the people that are against downscaling which equals to 0,01% of the playerbase. Hehe. They wouldn’t have made such a huge change if their data had showed something else.

      Population on older planets: 20-30 people. How many 60 lvls interested in doing irrelevant quests and one-shooting everything? 1-3. Yeah. Totally worth keeping the current system…. nope.

      • http://coe.swtorhost.com Slaytok Veranes

        If BW is leading their marketing campaign with choices now being important, they should have given the players the choice to level sync or not.

      • darthz

        I can assure you it is more than .01 percent.

      • Fuck off Level sync

        So….how deep did you have to reach up your ass to pull that number out?

        Im very sure it’s ALOT higher than that. Quite a considerable amount of the player base don’t want this feature OR to have this feature as optional. That’s the whole problem here, being “forced” on everyone.

        Rather than focusing on real END GAME content, they’re catering to lonely casuals who do no real sort of progression and just stick to themselves within their own bubble like awkward nerds.

        This is a clear re-use of old content to keep lonely white knights busy, since Swtor is a single player game now, amiright ?

        Just so you Bio-defenders understand.

        More options = Good
        Forcing stupid features on everyone = Bad.

        • p4v7

          I sense much raid butthurt in you . They wouldn’t make a leap of faith with that level-sync change. It’s an enormous change for SWTOR. It hasn’t been done just because Bioware believed it was right. Their database must have pointed out what they could do just like they know that not adding new operations in a year won’t affect their income :)

    • João Victor Mazzei

      Speak for yourself, pup.

  • Ingeniøran

    INteresting. Wondering how viable it will be to level in the level synched heroics

  • Unoshi

    loving all these changes…. Really neat from BW. Only thing i might have something against is the level sync.. Does that affect daily areas? That would be a huge let down. I get the idea of grouping up but players should not feel forced.
    Anyhow overall, pretty sweet deal, excited for This.

    • http://sw-tor.cz Aries_cz

      Even on stream, Eric was able to blaze through Heroic area mobs solo without paying much attention to the fight, so it is going to be easy. Not a faceroll, I assume you could die if you went out and got a coffee or pulled an entire instance at once but no problem if you will play normally

      • Mashiro

        because it syncs you to the higher lvl possible, will this also aply for daylies planets?

        • Zakuak

          Not sure about that….Dailies maybe but I am curious how it will handle the Bounty contracts? Will Kingpin contracts throw lvl 65 elites on us and we still get planet scaled….cuz that’d suck hard haha.

          Yeah over all the scaling regarding your day to day game play seems like a win for us players. Every location on every map in the entire game now is a relevant playground with proper rewards…that pretty badass IMO

          • Mashiro

            i believe kingpins will throw the level we are already scaled :)
            scaling thing is fun

      • Unoshi

        Oke cool. Thanks

      • Darth-Robin

        lol aries thats cause DK heriocs were never hard to begin with but yeah its so faceroll when musco is lvl 18 and is killing lvl 12 mobs…. not to mention that the only 4 man herioc on dk has been turned into a 2 man herioc….

  • Radoslaw Gembicki

    They better add cross server queues for both pvp and pve , or it will be as horrible to do your wzs and hm fps as it is atm

    • Mashiro

      they are busy making more logic for a sorcerer to wear and find usefull a mandalorian armor (mastery shit)

    • Nakrrah

      Things always liven up during new content… I’m glad we won’t have something like Rishi or Oricon where everyone flocks up to at the same time though, because that was awful. Now people just might spread out more evenly among the new stuff, instead of having 20 instances of Zion where it’s still impossible to find a single, living mob.

    • http://coe.swtorhost.com Slaytok Veranes

      Well they aren’t. Including levels 50-65 for queuing is their solution.

  • http://bludnation.com/ Badd Blud

    It seems that with combat companions and some of the other stuff coming out now would be the best time to grind dailies or other credit earning methods and to have a nice bank role going into the xpac!

  • Rompe Himself

    R.I.P. The effort it takes to get the “Galactic Hero” title.

    Now any monkey can not only be at a terminal to get the required heroics to get said title but it even transports you there for extra lazy points.

    And to think all the time it took me to get the title by unlocking certain heroics by doing the bonus series of planet stories and now it is as easy as going to a terminal and picking the ones you need. :'(

    • Nakrrah

      Ermagerd…they should remove personal starships and make you commute there by flashpoints to bring some proper effort to this game. No speeders or quick travel allowed during transitions either, because that’s just damn lazy.

      • Rompe Himself

        Holy shit your reply could give people cancer………..

        If you did the Galactic Hero achievement, you would understand what I am talking about in terms of effort and time not to mention it would have saved me from reading such a “Ermagerd” stupid and pointless reply by you but here we are all the same. Thankfully I didn’t get cancer!! :)

        • Lithari

          Its just an achievement dude, take pride in the fact you did it the harder way, alot of players just don’t see the point in those achievement crap, i mean i wanted a terminal for those heroics for such a long time, not cause i am lazy, it just takes so bloody long going to each location.

          But the transporting you there is abit over the top.

          • Nakrrah

            Well, they are no longer something you do because you’re bored and want to see that achievement pop up, but something you do to get comms. They’re relevant, and convenience is usually a good thing on something you find yourself repeating over and over.

            • davidt0504

              If you’re playing the game bored and doing things because you’ve got nothing better to do then that’s fine. However, let’s please not suggest that we turn this game into a game that is aimed at that being the main mechanic… I don’t have time in my life to play more than 30 minutes – an hour a day and usually only every other day. Sometimes I like to slow down and take in the game when time allows but sometimes all I want to do is move past a particular piece of content. I’m glad they are making it so that it is possible for me to do that. Nobody is going to force you to use the terminal.

        • Nakrrah

          I did do it, matey… and I’m not crying because someone just might save 20 minutes of pointless driving around åer heroic due to getting the mission easily and a priority transport… unlike a certain someone.

          • Rompe Himself

            Lol more then 20 minutes is required considering how you have to unlock specific heroics by doing previous specific heroics and completing bonus series on planets to get other heroics. But then you would know this right matey?

            And I am not crying because of people saving time. If anything I envy people who want the title after 4.0. Nope, I am sad that the effort it once took to get the title is now dead which now can be handed to anyone with minimal effort. It hardly qualifies as an achievement anymore when it can be obtained so easily.

            • Nakrrah

              Yeah, because everyone on the internet always lies and you’re the only one who ever got that elusive galactic hero title… but is it really a huge deal that we get rid of a pointless waste of time that is first going to said planet, then finding the actual quest giver..?.
              Since, of course, guides are a strict no-no when it comes to this stuff, you’re supposed to find them on your own. Now, once you find that person after hours and hours of driving around aimlessly, and possibly completing half of the bonus series as well, you finally get to the heroic itself…that, for a lvl 60, takes about 5 minutes to clear, as you obviously skip the useless bonuses.
              Now, you get teleported there, with the quest, and actually have to do a tiny bit of work to actually clear the heroic, since you’re scaled down, for a reward that actually matters.
              I do appreciate my own achievements, and the way I got them, but saying someone else’s achievements are pointless because he didn’t drive around Belsavis looking for heroics he couldn’t even do is rather elitist. “Back in the good, ol’ days, we actually had to do this stuff all proper and like”

            • Michal Brunclík

              and u did them when u were 10 lvls higher and solo and now they have to find a group bcs they will be scaled to not roll through

    • p4v7

      Where have you been when they unlocked all taxis by default and reduced QT cooldown to 0? That helped a lot with getting this achievement too. That’s one of the factors that encouraged me to finally do heroics :P So… it’s just another step. You are late to the party.

  • Jason Thomas

    Bitch bitch bitch. I bet I handed one of you people bitching a million dollars you would be about that too. Omg I have to pay taxes too. It’s bio wares fault. Blah blah blah. Don’t like the changes then leave. Go back to panda bear expac. wow.

    • Nakrrah

      If the old stuff gets reworked into something that’s useful and fun to do, it’s tampering with the stuff that’s all good and well… if it’s new content, it sucks compared to the old stuff and should be boycotted most fiercely.

  • Radiotoe

    Omg stop whining about everything wth lol. don’t like the changes? stop playing the game or continue playing and whine more then deal with changes. Nobody is forcing anyone to stay if you don’t like the new changes. I’ll admit that i’m not big fan about the level sync but i can coop with it. It’s not that bad.

  • Bryan

    I had given up on this game, but these changes look decent for the most part. I might give this expac a trial after all.

  • fuckthisgame

    Disappointing that they’re bringing back the old rewards from the old events. I liked showing off my bowcaster because people would know I participated in the event, they’d know I have history with the game. Looks like now those items will dramatically lose value for me. What are they going to do next? Give everyone a Founder title and party jawa? tht really pissed me off the most out of all of this. in before special snowflake, of course i wanna be unique and show off.

    • Nakrrah

      Well, quite a few people who weren’t able to take part in the great acquisitions race and the original rakghoul event are still lacking certain pieces from their sets. And since they are not bringing those events back, I suppose this is the next best thing.

      • Nakrrah

        Erm…I mean people who were able to take part in it, lol.

    • 4rrrrr

      When the first Rakghoul event startet, we didn’t know how it works. We didn’t know how long it will last and we didn’t know what quests and rewards the next day will bring. We didn’t know if it would be repeated some day.

      Thats why I don’t have the republic version of the armor. When I decided to get it too, it was already to late to get all the parts.

      If I knew how it works, I had done all the quests on both factions at the first day. But BioWare made it as mysterious as they could. So many people didn’t know that they screwed it up by starting to late into the event.

      It’s just fair to give us another chance to get the missing parts!

    • Naq

      Bowcaster has been available from bounty event since forever, not in special deep purple, but still available. The pet Lobel that was exclusive to the event has been obtainable through alternate means since forever as well. Your snowflake melted a while back, but you were too busy enjoying being a common raindrop to notice.

  • me

    IMO this looks very good and will def get me playing the game a lot more again. I will def buy the expansion.

    • 4rrrrr

      You can’t buy the expansion.

      You can only subscribe to the game, and this will give you access to the new content.

      • Charles Cantrell

        Amazon KOTFE Bundle in away gives you everything you need in order to get the expansion. 90 days game time, 2400 cc… 39.99

        • Unoshi

          you still don’t buy the xpac the reason amazon says it contains the xpac is because of the 90 sub days which automatically. Gives you the xpac once u use the sub code. The only thing you are buying is sub time and CC

  • 4rrrrr

    I wonder if Presence is also leveled down. Because it is kind of independet of the other stats and the character level.

    With 860 Presence for example you get about +4300 HP, +170 damage and +120 healing done for your companion. If this stays as it is, and it’s not lowered on lowlevel planets, this could really help you doing Heroic solo. What would be just fine!

    • Zakuak

      Ah interesting, that would indeed be a nice thing to have once you’ve been scaled to a planets level.

      I wasn’t to excited about lvl scaling but after seeing Eric stomp some heroic NPCs on Kaas….it didn’t appear to be much of a issue lol. The great part is now ALL of the planets content becomes relevant as the rewards for the missions give boxes containing lvl appropriate gear ( You real level not your scaled to level ).

      Over all I am pretty excited about this expansion.

    • Travis Hayden

      I’m wondering about how this will affect expertise as well.

  • Donut

    hmmmm interesting so it looks like well jsut have perma 12x from class missions and lvl with them + the planetary storyline

    • needsomemiracle

      Not really. I play as pref and staying on-level requires all class missions, all planetary missions and either all side-quests or a couple level-appropriate flashpoints. And maybe a BBA contract or two.
      With x12 the leveling speed is ludicrously higher, so this is more like permanent x1.5.

  • 4rrrrr

    Heroics that are right now H4 are changed to H2+ in Eric’s stream.

    Looks like they have changed them.

    • Sisqi

      Ooh, that would be great but probably still wouldn’t work for Colicoid Wargames and the Aurora Cannon as the mechanic in the FP would have to be changed as well?!

  • pduggie

    I’m glad the Chevin/Rak stuff is coming back, but THOSE PRICES!

    72 gree things to get all the Republic containment (the suit I didn’t bother with back in the day). No more trying for 50 gree lights for me! That’s going to take some doing. I wish there were some new events.

    I’m bummed too that my 17 leftover Tokens of Enrichment can’t help me.

    • Teddybomber87

      Like Musco said the prices you see here are not final .

      • Rob Ferret

        I certainly hope so, the Gree Token cost is way too high as they are not as easy to collect as the other tokens.

        • SupRun

          This is also their way of revitalizing the bounty week, at least for a couple of months. Kinda glad I didn’t max out BBA rep like I did for most other events.

          • Xorras

            But you can buy bounty contracts off gtn, if compare to gree.

            • SupRun

              They are gonna skyrocket in price after people see this. Not all players are rolling around in credits. Wiping on Torque/M&B costs a lot if you wipe a bunch. Which happens.

  • Meilan

    I miss the legacy credits and legacy friend/black list still!

  • Meilan

    What will happen to Preferred players who doesn’t have the SoR expansion and want to play this update by becoming sub again? They miss the 55-60 part then.

    • Teddybomber87

      You get all previous Expansions with KoTfe on 27.You might not start the new Exp to do them

      • 4rrrrr

        For Early Access players it should be the 20th. Otherwise those without SoR are stuck.

    • Unoshi

      If you Sub on kofte launch you get all xpacs.

  • userleftyourchannel

    With the Mastery replacing class specific mainstat, this game can no longer call itself an RPG. I feel sorry now for all people grinding their class gear – now 1 set for all DPS, 1 for tanks and 1 for healers is enough. Hey BW, why dont you sell pacman now? Because with planet-adjusted level you also made leveling pointless. Let’s go and collect hearts. F… this crap.

    • needsomemiracle

      Honestly it was never a role-playing game – in the sense you mention – to begin with. The stat progression has always been automatic, you get no say in it, and there’s only one efficient choice of stat pool distribution on gear for any discipline.
      Simplifying main stats to mastery is just another step in that direction. The next step would be removing experience and levels altogether and gate content based on how much story missions you finished.

      It’s only an RPG in that you have a choice between two roles of a given character archetype (light or dark side).

    • SupRun

      I see your point, but I think set bonuses for heals/dps/tanks will make sure you can’t max out one set and use it for everyone.

      • needsomemiracle

        Fair enough. Still, that doesn’t quite constitute the level of customization (or control, rather) you’d expect from an RPG. SWTOR and Starcraft 2 have very similar design of story decisions. One calls itself an RPG, the other doesn’t.

        Maybe that’s because the term “RPG” is so watered-down today that you need to specify a sub-genre (cRPG, MMORPG, tabletop RPG) for it to hold any definitional meaning at all.

        • SupRun

          I play Borderlands and Bioshock enough to know what a good RPG is. I’m coming here because SW is awesome, not for an amazing in-game experience.

    • Joakim Sjösten

      Nothing have changed with Main stats since they were all useless anyway except the one for your class. The stats in this game have always been about the secondary ones and the set bonuses as they differ between all classes and types.

      Also in a RPG standpoint, the level sync makes sense since just because you gained “levels”, you shouldn’t be able to one shot something that was supposed to be extremly powerful on a planet.

  • Naq

    Some perspective on Level Sync.
    Tonight, take your lvl 60 geared character to Oricon, and solo everything. Everything on the planet should be green to you, you will take damage, your life is probably not in danger at all though, except for MAYBE the sniper mode heroic area heroes. Maybe. THAT is how level sync is going to be.
    Still confused? Terrified? Jimmies all rustled? Head to CZ198, do the dailies there. No danger? Everything is easy? Managed to solo it all no problem? Yup. Its gonna be just like that.

    If level sync works the way they are saying, you are going to be the highest level possible over the current content while it is still able to give exp.

    • http://about.me/aragarvarnus Luis – Aragar Varnus

      If only more people understood that. *sigh*

      • Nakrrah

        Alas, it’s just easier to decide that taking a single stat point away makes you too weak to even do the basic things anymore, and therefore the game sucks…

    • Sarigar

      These tears are making me thirsty!

      • Cantstandya

        George is gettin’ upset!

    • SupRun

      At 55, Oricon sucked bad unless you were geared like crazy. I could barely solo the heroic as full Dread Forged tank with healer geared in 168 comm vendor. Now I don’t even need to use cooldowns while I faceroll those guys with comps in Yavin gear. I don’t want to go back to how it was before.

      • Naq

        Its going to stay how it is now, not how it was before. Reading comprehension is an important skill on the internet, it saves arguing.

        • Ian Argent

          I would live with a level-sync that made the planetary difficulty as hard as … Yavin with the 186 comms gear you can buy at any basic comms vendor, and comps in 172. But I’m expecting that Naq is correct and the level-sync difficulty will be set to “Oricon with L60 blue gear” or at worst “Oricon with L60 Yavin (186) gear”)

        • SupRun

          I read and understood what you wrote. I don’t understand the point of level sync if it’s not going to change from 55 to 65.

          • Naq

            Ok, the reason I use Oricon and CZ as examples is because the difference in level between your 60 character, and the mobs in those areas, is the same scale that you will be sync’d too when you are 65 on other planets. You are going to be 7 levels higher, PLUS scaled for your gear, PLUS you keep all your abilities. You might still be one shotting things.

            • SupRun

              I’m going to go ahead and give up this argument and pray that dailies stay the same as they are now.

      • 4rrrrr

        I soloed Oricon with my Sniper/Slinger/Scoundrel/Operative lvl 55, 180 gear (purple).

        H4 is quite a challange, but it can be done.
        With a Juggernaut at lvl 55 it can be done even with the 172 gear (blue) from the fleet vendor. It’s less challenging than with the better equipped Agents/Smuggler.

        There a things we still don’t know. How powerfull is a maximized companion? We can’t equip them with BiS gear, nor can we add augmentations to them. Both was very herlpful to get Heroics done without the help of other players.

        • SupRun

          Juggs are OP, whether tank or Vigilance. DCDs for days, heavy armor. Scoundrel was easy, I just stood there and healed my geared DPS companion.

  • http://coe.swtorhost.com Slaytok Veranes

    The level sync should be optional. If players want more challenge on older content, then they should have that choice. If players just want to farm credits, decos, etc, they should have that choice. Making it non-optional will just make me not go back anyway.

    • Mashiro

      one less corpse we will see while enjoying recycled content :)

      • http://coe.swtorhost.com Slaytok Veranes

        I don’t care. My point was about the choice, not the content.

        • Mashiro

          like I said before, nobody in the star wars universe said nar shaddaa is a less dangerous place than corellia, now every laser bullet worths the same. That’s all. I see no point to still whinning about a possible death while taking a walk through Belsavis.

          • http://coe.swtorhost.com Slaytok Veranes

            Your posts are about the content; mine are about the choice.

            • Mashiro

              the CHOICE to play the CONTENT. Dude it’s all related

              • Gabriel Mican

                Yes, and there should be a CHOICE to play the CONTENT, as you LIKE. With level sync or not. Why should that CHOICE, not matter!? Why should everyone wanna play the way YOU like to play!? We’re all different Mash ;)

              • Mashiro

                yay! someone else called me Mash! ^_^*hug*
                it’s true, I understand your point but I think they ended up deciding to force us to sync because of pvp server. I think will be really weird or even disfunctional that a non-synced players start to massacre synced players xD

              • Gabriel Mican

                Your point about the massacre is pretty valid! Either way, it’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out! Cheers!

              • Mashiro

                we just have to wait 3 weeks for it :P

              • http://coe.swtorhost.com Slaytok Veranes

                Exactly my point from the beginning.

            • DeepSleeper

              I like how you’re all “WAHHH” and everyone else is like “haha no” and you’re still like “BUT WAHHH”.

              • http://coe.swtorhost.com Slaytok Veranes

                Nope, not at all. Nice try though.

          • Lloyd Bayliss

            Completely agree with you Mash, it’s about making the entire game relevant and challenging, refer to other comments Slay as you can still solo content.

            • Mashiro

              finally another one who gets my point! :D
              and
              yay! you called me Mash how cute ^_^

              • Lloyd Bayliss

                Yes but now all I think about is Mash Potato… lol

                I actually think these changes will help breathe some life back in to the game, so much content wasn’t used when you hit max level, been here since launch and I feel like with these changes I have more reason to take all of my characters back through older content. People grouping up for old content will also create pvp again on old planets where everyone is viable. Now I wish I hadn’t transferred to a PVE server lol.

              • Mashiro

                seriously i was about to call my tank juggernaut “s’Mash” back in day XD
                pve server? ha! im stuck in a rp server (first mmo i play, just picked the first server in the list) :P
                smash the potatos or they will smash you

              • Lloyd Bayliss

                you can transfer away, is the reduced price still on? I was thinking about transferring again, but population is a big problem still :( are you on EU or US?

              • Mashiro

                begeren colony US, I spent my last few coins resetting 2 toons because they were full of crap around (transfer resets friend list and renaming them you practically get a new toon) :P

              • Lloyd Bayliss

                Ahh I’m on the shadowlands, it’s alright, quite a few people, but I do miss spur-of-the-moment world pvp… I’m hoping these changes bring that back.

                You should create a character called “s’mash-the-potato” just beause…

              • Mashiro

                haha that’s sounds awesome!! xD a lvl 60 for sure! dont want to level another sith warrior (did it like 3 times already) lol
                who get the free lvl 60 toon? just to know :P

              • Darth Twinge

                lol I did that for a couple characters, Mash. Transfer rename is 180 cc round trip instead of 1000 or whatever ridiculous they charge for a rename.
                Also glad to meet a fellow Begeren Colonist that also sometimes PVPs :D
                I ended up here from the forced server merge a few months after launch.

              • Mashiro

                Begeren rules! Harbinger can suck it 8)
                what’s your toon or guild there? I pvp a lot but I dont have too much time to play :o

          • dbaswell

            I really like that way of looking at it, how every bullet is now the same.

            • Nakrrah

              Yeah, but it’s not, like, 50 levels op, just 10 levels op… takes longer, I might get hurt. I can’t try if I can kill the entire planet with basic attack without loosing 1% health.

            • Disqus this

              Every bullet should be the same but my sith lords ability to block them should not be. My Sith Lord turned into a acolyte because he went to Nar shaddaa should never happen. Nice to have as a game feature if you want to do it but not a forced option. It should have been designed as optional from the ground up.

        • Evan Karl

          I don’t know how I feel about this. Should one of th emost elite members of the dark council really fall prey to sith acolytes on Korriban? Should a general or the Republic army fall against a single manka cat?

          I disagree with this option, I see the reason for doing it, but I don’t think that outweighs what I mentioned above.

          I realize I’ll still have all my abilities and stuff, but that doesn’t make me not-squishy :(

          • Nakrrah

            Let’s make a deal, you see the stream, see how Musco soloes a H4 on DK not even using his rotation, and then tell us how he’s being slaughtered, ok?

    • doncalls

      Bye.

      • http://coe.swtorhost.com Slaytok Veranes

        Don’t let the door hit you on your way out.

        • Nakrrah

          Him? But you made it very clear that this is not the game you want? Or is it just because things change, and not in the way you want?

          • http://coe.swtorhost.com Slaytok Veranes

            I made it very clear that a choice should be given since BW is all about choices mattering now.

  • Фролов Денис

    I guess you need to correct this part: You get a new utility point and an additional utility in the heroic tier.
    Maybe it’s just me, but i don’t see that extra utility point on the screenshot, nor was it mentioned before the stream

    • Xorras

      You get it with 65 lvl.

      • Фролов Денис

        Yes, but it’s the one from 60 lvl. Total utility points are 7, just like they are now.

        • Disqus this

          Correct, you are losing a point just to gain it back at 65. You are not getting a new ability point. It’s a lovely play on words and marketing at its best.

          • Лев Сафаров

            Not only in heroic tire. At skillful and masterful as well. 1 – something that slows 40% for 6 sec, 2 – supercharged defense +15% defense chance for 8 sec after activating super gas, 3 – smoke screen 4 sec immunity to something after jet.

            • Disqus this

              Good point. I forgot they are adjust all of it just to make sure you don’t get a new point.

              • Лев Сафаров

                As someone write this before, i think if there will be 70, 75 and so on level devs will be forced to make new abilities and utility points. They cant just scale abilities all the time. (:

              • Disqus this

                You would think that but with how they did it this time. Would it shock you if they adjusted it again and then sold it as a “New ability point” when it really isn’t?

                Wouldn’t shock me at all.

              • Лев Сафаров

                Dunno, you probably right.

  • Артур Алиев

    Darth Marr is dead according to wookiepedia
    Died c.3640 BBY, Zakuul.
    I bet Satele, Malcom, Saresh, will be alive after all. Great move bioware!

    • Mashiro

      satele not being an ops boss is nonsence (at least a flashpoint boss)

    • Xorras

      Incinerator this way, spoilerist ===>

    • Sarigar

      Since Darth Marr is clearly available as a companion (shown above), I would say rumours of his death have been greatly exaggerated.

      • Xorras

        Except he died on screen.
        ———————————
        Why are we even discussing story in gameplay thread?

        • Sarigar

          I’m not discussing story, look at the notes above, Darth Marr is right there as a companion. There’s a picture of him, his stats, etc.

          • Joakim Sjösten

            SPOILER!!!!

            That picture is when you have him as companion before he dies so that doesn’t count.

            Doubt he is dead tho as you have no idea what he is under that mask. Just look at Jadus and how he is “immortal”

            • StarlaBlaise

              There will be option to save him though.

              • Mashiro

                only for pub side, like calphayus :P

              • StarlaBlaise

                Only for reps? There’s no LS option for imps to choose and save him? :(

              • Mashiro

                no >:D
                since everyone were spoiling…

              • StarlaBlaise

                Where’s logic in that? He’s more important for imperial characters as almost the only sith, who does things right. :(

              • Naq

                That’s how I felt while I was pushing Malgus down a well.

              • StarlaBlaise

                I am sorry, but Malgus was an idiot. His idea of multi-raced Empire was good, but his methods were not.

              • Naq

                He was brilliant right up to the part where he decided to declare war on everyone all at once. That part was pants on head silly. Can’t control the writing though.

              • StarlaBlaise

                And that’s why he’s an idiot. Must be an old age…

              • Naq

                “Hey guys, I did this amazing thing!” “Whoo good job!”
                “I did this other amazing thing now!” “Hurrah, keep it up, you are awesome!”
                “Oh, I did these 500 other good things!” “Your doing great! Yer a champ!”
                “I made 1 mistake.” “You are an idiot.”
                Starla, lets hope, in your successful career as a Sith, after people are done stabbing you, dropping a hillside on you, and melting half your face off with point blank grenades, they are a bit more forgiving when you slip up the once and you get pitched down a well, may they not forget your successes and mock your intellect.

              • StarlaBlaise

                I can be very forgiving with certain people like Darth Marr, course they rarely do mistakes and if they do, those can be easily corrected.
                Malgus was never my favourite. He’s too much of a Sith for that. Marr is more pragmatic, unusually pragmatic, so I see him as the only hope Empire has. Malgus with his idiotic decision and life attitude could never stand a chance to truly succeed in his endeavor.

              • StarlaBlaise

                It’s our mistakes that truly remain people’s memories. Success is easily forgotten.

              • Лев Сафаров

                When i take down torch, i was thinking im killing shae vizla. I was so relief when in cut scene she got up. (:

              • Mashiro

                dread masters were too cool for us, they born in the wrong area. You know, everybody loves Revan, the fucktard who ripped his friend’s jaw with a lightsaber and re-activated the crazy sith emperor, charming dude :P

              • StarlaBlaise

                I hate Revan. Bioware returning him again and again is like resurrecting a rotted zombie, who should be buried. Don’t like Dread Masters either: being cool is good and all, having half a brain is not.
                The only sith I like are Marr, Lana and kind of Zash.

              • Mashiro

                Lana?!?!? I don’t even consider her a sith. What happened with Zash? she remains inside Khem?

              • Лев Сафаров

                Dunno, depends on you.

              • StarlaBlaise

                LS sith is still a sith. So, Lana is a sith.
                With Zash the situation is very unclear. Khem takes a new name in KotFE. The only reason for that is most likely Zash taking over his body.

              • Darth Jadus

                If the legacy achievement for saving him is actually still in game final release, I doubt it’ll be solely for pubs. Don’t listen to that.

              • Лев Сафаров

                Of course my Lord.

              • Darth Jadus

                Just saying. Also, spoilers from someone who wasn’t aware of the being frozen in carbonite, passing five years, and who “hates spoilers”, are to be treated with skepticism, and I say that kindly and professionally. BW has to love the amount of speculation each of these livestreams generates.

              • Mashiro

                they must be watching us laughing while eating some popcorn but hey! they dont care about us :P

              • StarlaBlaise

                People say Unmarred achiev is no longer on PTS. :(

              • Darth Jadus

                Unmarred is also not going to be said about BW if they don’t put it back in. Somebody is getting cut.

            • Mashiro

              jadus is alive?!?!? burn you stupid motherfucker! get the fuck out of here!! D:<

            • MKDAWUSS

              We have temporary companions now? Cool.

              • Joakim Sjösten

                He showed a tab named “Companions and Contacts” so i don’t Marr will be the only temporary one but he said it will be explained closer to launch with the new “Alliances” system.

            • me

              its canon he is a jawa on stilts under that mask. This was proven conclusively long ago and settled science.

        • Unoshi

          Also, chapter three talks about induced dreams so it could be at a point in chapter 1a lot could have been a dream even Darth marr’s death

    • Darth Jadus

      Doubtful at this point, as there’s been no additional story released.

  • doncalls

    I won’t be able to snag mobs from other players and waste their and my time being a jerk in game,,Or jump lower level players on PvP servers and two blast them?

    • Robert Davis

      Very true. That is part of the positive of forced level sync.

      That ignores the negatives that would be forced changes to the Bonus Series, and Seeker Droid/Macrobinocular quests.

      Those are REAL issues that need to be addressed, or those quests will be completely impossible to complete.

  • Dacmus Lorimus

    Low heroic areas becoming a grindfest for high levels. I….I think I just got a recycled content overdose.
    Someone help me with a creativity adrenal.

    • doncalls

      Exaggerate much?

  • StarlaBlaise

    Will there be an option to choose alignment for new 60 level chars or Bioware is still going with LS for reps and DS for imps root?

    • Stephen Powell

      We didn’t see anything that would change the alignment… :/

      • StarlaBlaise

        I hope they will add this option. I usually go with LS/NS imps and DS/NS reps. LS reps and DS imps are boring.

        • 4rrrrr

          I hate all my DS chars. I startet them DS because of red weapon crystals. BioWare removed this limitation long ago, so there is no need to keep them DS. Most DS choices are dull and boring, mindless “ok, now I kill you, because I’m so evil” choices. But I’m to lazy to go from 100% DS to 100% LS.
          :)

          • StarlaBlaise

            I love my DS Consular. DS options for Consular are great and very justifiable. Want to try DS Knight, course I hate LS version of him. But DS imperial characters are too chaotic-evil, yes. Like my chars brainy.

        • MKDAWUSS

          My favorite character so far has been my LS SI.

          • StarlaBlaise

            My main is LS SI. Love her.

    • Unoshi

      It would be canon rep LS IMP DS

      • StarlaBlaise

        It’s a boring option.

        • Unoshi

          As far as I know. It’s not an option. It’s the default setting. I would have loved to see something like ME and DA when playing a new installment and they given you the choices to define the past if you didn’t play through it or didn’t had an save file

  • Ahtirm

    Everyone is thinking it and I’m just saying it. Full sized battle rancor companion. We cannot live without this.

    • Vincent Uchiha

      wish they add it but dont think so

    • Rob Fairclough

      …as a healer

      • Darth Twinge

        how would it do that? Pee on you?

        • Naq

          And a whole other avenue of erp opens up. Those mistells tho…

    • Abcde

      Finally someone said rancor companion !

  • Mashiro

    will there be new character customization options? you know, to make our toons look older since there is a 20 years jump

    • Unoshi

      5 years

      • Mashiro

        ok so there is no need to get older, I didnt about the carbonite and didnt know about the amount of years, becausei dont like spoilers :P

        • Unoshi

          ha no worries also you could just use the appearance terminal in the cartel bazaar to age

          • Mashiro

            I dont want to be older >.<

            • Sarigar

              Trust me, it’s way worse IRL than it is ingame. :)

              • Mashiro

                I meant both xD
                20’s forever :P

              • Sarigar

                Live the dream, young amiga!

              • Mashiro

                I’m pretty much doing everything I expected, excepting the underground rock band :P

    • Stanley White

      you was frozen in carbonite so you didn’t age.

    • Heya

      Your frozn in carbonite so no u won’t age carbonite doesn’t work like that. Also I believe it’s a five-year jump.

  • Stephen Powell

    The only thing on the stream that I disliked immediately was that Surge and Crit are becoming the same stat. Less options to customize is never good, IMO. Clarifying methods, or re-codifying things is fine, but actually removing ways to tweak characters is a poor choice.

    • guest

      Well crit and surge work together symbiotically, they basically depend on each other to be effective. high crit and low surge = no good. low crit + high surge = waste. So I like this change from the perspective that instead of raising two stats, you just raise one to get the same benefit. Also moving crit from a secondary stat to a tertiary stat solves the problem of way too much crit and not enough power on gear from whatever blind monkey decides stat distribution on the coms and token gear.

      • guest

        Making mastery/power/alacrity/ and now critical rating much closer in benefit also gives us alot of options for augmenting, Augmenting is primarily where the gearing diversity is going to be now, vs pre 3.0 where power/crit was basically only dps argument, everything was augmented with power or mainstat, and alacrity and surge were fairly irrelevant.

      • Stephen Powell

        I personally prefer games to have more variety in character creation and leveling. While it’s harder to get great, or even ideal characters, more variety allows for more personal style.

        Granted, I come from DDO, where you could teach a college course on character building. That game has at least 8 separate methods of character customization beyond the cosmetic, each of which add a layer of complexity and creativity. You can control how high your character can jump, and how far your character can shoot. It’s pretty impressive. Theory crafters have to work dang hard to find the “perfect” build, and even then, there are as many variations on a given build as there are people playing them.

  • aspc

    Darth Marr is supposed to have found Tulak Hord’s old ligthsaber, I wonder if you can ask him about that story.

  • lepper queen

    musco begin wrongly, this is not an expansion, unfortenely is only one more patch:/

    • Unoshi

      Clarify

      • Stanley White

        yea i would love to hear the logic behind this as well….

        • lepper queen

          take care with this “expansion(atch)”: except “new” ops and pvp.
          only the most important things of every mmo game.:))

      • Disqus this

        Probably that the only thing really new is a story that will be consumed in a really short amount of time (even BW admits we consume content so fast it blows their minds) and that no new end game group content is being created.

        It’s rather bland in the end game group content area if you have been playing for any real length of time.

        I can see where people see this as nothing more than a major patch.

        • Лев Сафаров

          At least its interesting patch. (:

        • Unoshi

          tbh it has everything from.an xpac except “new” ops and pvp but they also never said that they wpnt be added in at later dates which might be a really long time I’ll admit that

          • Disqus this

            And thats why people see it as a major patch, not an expansion. It doesn’t bring enough new to the table. It’s a rehash of old crap that been around from launch to over a year ago for the latest ops. (thats some old content if you play this game at all)

            It’s easily understandable how this is viewed as nothing more than a patch. You’re getting story that wont last long and thats about it. The rest is a redo mechanic.

            • Лев Сафаров

              Dont forget, you need to do this story for all your alts, good luck. (:

            • Unoshi

              given how they still need to find the propper way to balance their ops and wz since there is always a constant push and pull. Don’t get me wrong I want new ops as wel but given how the last two went if not the last four. I rather enjoy my story whole they get it together on that aspect

              • Disqus this

                I see that point and agree somewhat but that doesn’t change the overall view of it. It’s a patch. Not a real expansion. Story only isn’t enough, launch proved that. BW even said in one of there posts back then just how fast we were consuming story. It blew their minds. They expected to have longer to create end game. This will be no different.

                They do need to get their act together. The BS down leveling so we can redo content that is 4 years old. No new end game group content. It all makes me think they have little clue to do so they dropped back and relied on story again. That “F”ed this game over once. It can very likely happen again.

              • Paulo Gomes

                I won’t go into the “Story versus Content” thingy again, I did so some months ago, right here on Dulfy. But it would be really nice to see all the people raving about story AND that said that it would be a COMPLETELY new story for EACH class to come explain their reasoning right now… We can already see that it’s the SAME STORY for all classes with minor twists… Is it epic? Sure, it can be… But it won’t be very epic when i’m playing through it for the 5th or 6th time, spacing all the conversations because I KNOW them by heart… Or rolling yet ANOTHER jugg because, you know, I answered Light on one conversation… Wonder how it will be like if I answer Dark? AND with no new Op to play… Going back to doing Flashpoints (????????) on DK… looooool…

              • Nakrrah

                Yet this is what you get. No one is holding a gun at your head, forcing you to play something you obiously hate this much… and if it really is that terrible, perhaps the time has come to try something else… ESO, GW2, Hello Kitty Online…?

              • Paulo Gomes

                Oh you are indeed so clever… Maybe it would be time for you to make an intelligent remark, then? Or are you not capable of that? And where do you get that I hate this game? I love it, that doesn’t mean I have to agree on everything about it. And hey, I been subscribed since day one, have you? So I figure I have a right to point out my opinion about the game. If it bothers you, fine with me. Have fun playing OLD content as if it was new, having no new pvp areas or ANYTHING new except, you know, the fantastic, epic storyline… That isn’t repeatable, did you get your head around that? Let me explain, to play it MORE THAN ONCE, you have to ROLL MULTIPLE CHARACTERS… You are happy about all this? Good, let’s agree to disagree, good hunting out there…

              • Nakrrah

                Of course, and apparently you have a right to get offended by someone suggesting that you stop your obviously masochistic ways and do something you might enjoy more. Or are you just having a lil tantrum because they change things, without adding things, and allowing you to whine about said added things because they were wrong?
                Play the storyline on one character, take a break, and come back when there’s something you want in the game instead of bitching about how you want the stuff you want now. It won’t happen, this is what we’ll get.

              • Paulo Gomes

                I don’t get offended in these Internet musings, I get amused. And your not-so-clever use of irony is wasted on me, REALLY. And I’m not bitching, just pointing out FACTS, wich you CLEARLY are unable to contradict…

                But on one thing you are clearly right, because that’s exactly what I’ll do: take my time, do stuff in the game, ’till something NEW comes along…

              • Nakrrah

                And then whine about it being bad, ugly, non-functional, possibly game breaking, and wonder why the hell BW took so long to produce it, as it obviously sucks. Trust me, I know exactly how it goes… change=bad.

              • Paulo Gomes

                Well, that I can’t say, reading the future is not in my job description… but I loved the original story, liked a lot of RotHC (especially Oricon), was not really into them bringing Revan back, but hey… Just don’t sell the “completely different 8-class epic storyline” thing and then come bragging about “new” content when it’s not… As i said above, facts, not rants… There is a difference.

              • Nakrrah

                Well, I’d still say that the amount of things they change and bring into the game makes it an expansion…even if the expanded part isn’t something certain people really care for. And I do agree that new pvp content and new ops would be nice to have, but considering the crap they’ve put out lately, I’d prefer they take their time with that…
                As I said in an earlier comment, call me stupid, but I’ll enjoy doing the old content once it’s challenging and rewarding again. Nothing is worse than grinding the same two operations over and over because that is the only way to equip your character for the next boss.

              • Paulo Gomes

                Oh but I agree! Hell yeah I positively agree with you! If all this level scalling and revamping of the older stuff makes it more challenging, let’s do it! No problems with that part. I just like calling like I see it, and if I see a cow, I call it a cow, not a horse. I don’t really care if it’s TECHNICALLY an expansion or not, I just want to get my toons out and have fun! And let’s face it, doing TDF solo healing with no proper tank and going about it like a lv 50 FP is NOT what it should be about. So, on that level AT LEAST we both agree… But hey: it’s not new… :)

              • lepper queen

                2016? i heard (rumours) a better thing about 2017: new engine and new servers, than we can expect real and good expansions:)

              • Unoshi

                I understand. It’s like I said its just no new operations but plenty will still do them for current tier and other reasons but it does sting a bit for them to throw all if not most old content in our face like here redo them.

                But its like I said they better balance and figure this whole ops thing out a bit more and don’t just have either range or melee friendly bosses.

              • lepper queen

                you must ask to yourself why bioware cant made a real expansion, with new ops and pvp… probably you understand many things since the beginig of the game… :)

              • Unoshi

                For one. Most thing they do to pvp or add back fires with a lot of self entitled complaints. Like I said in other post last xpac an ziost proved their ability for ops has been lacking if not already.

                Yeah I know what you mean. I was one of those who left at launch after end game. But then again we had like two ops only for a long duration.

                It would be the same now. If BW would release an op or two at launch shortly after people would still beg for HM then they would for NiM even though NiM will never happen again according to BW.

                Just like how fast the story is being consumed and cannot satisfy the need for more story in a short period of time. Same can be said with ops. You done it a few times even HM almost completed it or did completed it now you want a new one. The pace will not be match.

                While the initial crowed might be happy ops at launch a lot would stop playing if they didn’t get a new one so same thing as now but just delayed.

                Just to keep it short. Story will be consumed way too fast. New ops would be consumed (given if its tuned right) within a few months and then regardless if its a xpac with or without ops and wz ppl would still. Complain about it.

                But yeah would love to see new ops added as well.

            • Nakrrah

              PvE: No new ops -> No new content -> Patch, not an expansion.
              PvP: No new PvP maps or anything of the kind -> servers go down for no reason, this bullcrap.
              People who actually matter: Oh, look, we have a new storyline and the old ops are actually relevant now. Godda check this out.

              • Disqus this

                Ops have been relevant for comms for sometime now. We didn’t need to be down graded for that to happen. So, I’m not sure I see your point.

                Gamers, who matter BTW, see this as a patch because of what it brings and doesn’t bring to the table. If you called this an expansion, it is by far one of the weakest expansion in expansion game history and thats saying something. There missing 2 entire areas of massive game play so they can push story which I have no doubt will be good but extremely short lived. It’s simply not enough to be an expansion.

              • Nakrrah

                Yes, yes, this game is about ops. We got that already. Story becomes boring after a couple of runs, but strangely, that new, bug-filled nightmare of an ops that cannot be completed on the intended tactics for 2 months would most certainly stay fresh.
                Makeb gave us one new planet, and a single operation, with one operation updated to level 55…-> full expansion, it had an ops.
                Oricon: Two opses, this should have been an expansion!
                3.0: 2 operations and two planets…well, the planets sucked, but hey, operations.
                4.0: Every operation in the game is now doable so that it poses a challenge, where every mechanic should now work. But nah, no new opses, so this is not an expansion, even if it changes everything else and brings a completely new storyline.
                And yes, I’m a progression raider who has almost a full clear on all earlier content, mainly missing a few 16-man kills and survivals, yet I’m intrigued to complete EV and KP without being overlevelled and immortal. Call me a stupid idiot, but I actually get bored with having just one or two operations to grind for the progression I want…

              • Disqus this

                and thats fine. But other don’t agree with you. There is nothing but story coming to this patch. The rest is rehashed extremely old content. That is not what most consider an expansion.

          • lepper queen

            you already clarify it, and receive the answer on ourself comentary… you dont need me to repeat the same:) bioware are “selling” one more time cats for rabbits. LOL

  • Horton

    Anyone know if companion weapons will be cosmetic-only like armor? In other words, can I equip companions with weak weapons without impacting their performance?

    • Shaun Salisbury

      Nothing you put on companions will effect stats its all just for looks.

    • Лев Сафаров

      Sure, there was written that comps gain nothing from gear, so only look of the gun and color of color crystal.

    • Naq

      Then I am totally stealing Marr’s lightsaber and replacing it with the purple dong-bat from Saint’s Row when he isn’t looking :D

  • Darth Jadus

    Overall, pretty excellent changes.

  • Xorras

    Can anyone explain what are exploration missions? They renamed sidequests like that? Or it’s something other?

    • Лев Сафаров

      Renamed.

    • Christian Carrera

      they are all the quest you did before 12x xp on each planet,

  • Carl

    All the changes look great! I love that capes aren’t clipping any more on mounts. I’m a nerd.

    • Лев Сафаров

      Yea, probably nice addition to everything.

    • rebuiltHK47

      Reminder: Most mounts at launch. It wasn’t confirmed to be all at launch, but the goal is for it to be all mounts.

  • michael furious

    I’m looking through this, trying to find something I don’t like – and I just can’t. It’s like my wishlist just got granted in entire.

    Also: Combat Companions? Like, you’ll be able to get weird pets and things to help you go forth and kill?? I was afraid to even put that on my wishlist, it was so unlikely.

    • JB1987

      i actually wished they had it earlier. would have maxed lvled my warrior, and then just let him

      solo killed the “last boss”.

    • Hawks

      It’s pretty cool and the perfect sort of item to have on the Cartel Market.

  • Paulo Gomes

    Ok… Finally saw the whole thing, some nice things, some not so nice imo…

    UI/Keybind changes: Great!!! I’m over the moon with this, finally i can import or export my keybindings! Great job!

    No Weekly limit on Comms is good also. No more stopping playing a toon because I’m all maxed out.

    Legacy Datacrons… Finally! Now I can track down wich ones i actually need.

    Level Scaling: Doesn’t bother me that much, if it introduces some new level of challenge to the game, bring it on…

    Comps changes: Not sure, will have to wait and play it out, but it’s kinda lame to have them all do all roles… I get that it simplifies leveling (no more getting to Alderaan to get your healer for instance), but it kind of looses some of the characteristics of the comp… And they better perform as well as they do now…

    Valkorion is Vitiate… Really??? I mean guys REALLY??? How much of a downer is that? So, the guy who could wipe out ENTIRE WORLDS just by thinking about it comes full circle and builds a new Empire??? WHY??? Not to mention Revan was in close mental contact with Vitiate FOR CENTURIES, he never figured this one out??? Lame, and not epic at all. AT ALL.

    Other than that, great cutscenes, amazing concept art… Even if it’s still the SAME STORYLINE for all classes, with minor differences I’m afraid… Peace

    • rebuiltHK47

      Query: Did you just post a spoiler and not put a warning up? Why?

      Query: And, are you really surprised about it?

      • Paulo Gomes

        You are right, corrected. Yes I am surprised and no, I’m not surprised. I AM surprised they could not have come up with anything better than this, never thought the story could be this linear… Boring from a story viewpoint for me, but it can still be good to play i guess…

        • Stephen Powell

          Eh, the story needed the villain cohesion, imho. Introducing a new antagonist would risk invoking what I personally refer to as the Naruto effect, in which the story gives us a great villain early, and then has to one up itself consistently to maintain tension.
          Maintaining villain cohesion, just increasing the attention from the villain as the story progresses will work well, i think.

          • Paulo Gomes

            Maybe you’re right. I was just so disappointed because it literally was what I thought it would be, the obvious choice. But maybe they can develop it to a point that’s credible, you know? Wait and see, has to be my motto…

            • Stephen Powell

              It was slightly low hanging fruit, no doubt. I called it shortly after E3, and had already been beaten to it by half of Reddit.

              From the spoilers I’ve seen hinted at Reddit, they may throw us a curve ball on that topic. After all, this is Bioware, where company policy seems to be minimal to no spoilers. Why show us that much, if V is supposed to be a major antagonist?

    • JB1987

      vitiate thinks its all a game to him. he could wipe out entire planets just by thinking about it, but where’s the sport in that? the man is a sociopath with more masks than a seasonal Halloween store. he could probably extinguish all life in the galaxy with a single fart, but knowing vitiate, he wants to take his time with it. he savors the hunt, the game. its like he’s creating new toons to destroy all life in the galaxy. text book crazy AF sith. talk about breaking the forth wall.

      as for revan, well…………damn he’s dumb as hell. thanks for the heads up, revan. good job buddy. :/

    • 4rrrrr

      Thanks for the spoiler tags!

      REALLY!? You didn’t use some?

      R E A L L Y ! ? !

      • Paulo Gomes

        Man, I just found out how to do it, sorry for any inconvenience, really :)

    • http://forceunleashed.pl mytel77

      I think they want to recreate Star Wars 4-6. Look at them in both we find ourselfs in a world owned by one man(evil sith) one aprientice with a little rebel force. Souds fimiliar?

  • KShrike

    Ok do people get bolstered to 65 to do story mode operations?

    Ordinarily this would be cool, but since they scaled up when you get your most important DPS abilities, it may lead to groups who absolutely CAN’T make story mode DPS checks.

    Unless Story Mode is gonna become even more of a joke than it already is…. (I guess whether or not you consider it a joke is dependent on whether or not you actually are in a group where everyone knows their rotation)

    • Disqus this

      No. There is no upscaling of level. Only bolster in group finder for SM but it affects stats and such, not level IIRC.

      • KShrike

        you’re… missing what I’m saying.
        I’m saying people are gonna have level 65 stats, but they won’t have level 60 skills! You’re gonna have concentration sents without concentrated slice, or scoundrels without blood boiler!

        • Disqus this

          In that sense yes, you are right. If someone is bolstered, they do not gain skills. The skills they have are a bit more powerful but no new skills are granted. When you are down leveled on every old planet, you wont lose skills but they will be weak sauce.

    • Paulo Gomes

      Rotation… Or correct Cylinder… Or correct Saber discipline… Or know what is taunt… Or know what is cleanse… Or know what aggro drop is… Or know what correct kill order is… Or know NOT to attack Bosses before tank… Hey I could go on, but you get the picture…

      • SupRun

        OMG!!! SOMEONE WHO ISN’T AN IDIOT!!!! THEY EXIST!!!!!
        12xp really made ops such a failure, you get people who did KDY 1-55 and have no idea what’s going on in ops. I walk in and parse 4k and they think they are killing shit when they are topping 1k dps if they are lucky.

        • Paulo Gomes

          hehehehe thx for your comment, really glad I’m not an idiot… But sadly yes the gameplay level of a lot of players has decayed significantly since 3.0, I guess it’s just a question of adapting or leaving… And if you have a cool guild DON’T LEAVE, ’cause PUG is a nightmare right now… And I don’t expect that to change…

          • SupRun

            It’s even worse than normal with the 55 8 man GF ops. I will specifically say “Any role LF non-GF ops” because for the most part the idiots don’t know how to run an op. Just the other day some guy tried to get me to offtank because I had lower HP but I had min/maxed gear on my shadow tank with a 6 piece and the other guy had crappy comm gear. Nearly left, but a buddy had invited me in so I stayed. Had I been running solo I would have definitely left.

            • Paulo Gomes

              That’s what you get for dumbing the game down, I know a lot of people think this is elitism, but it’s really not. People leave Ziost with 190 gear, think they’re ready for anything… They’re not. They mess up Tacticals for God’s sake. Was healing a Tactical the other day, had more hp’s than 2 of the dps COMBINED… A Commando dps had Combat Support Cell on, asked him why since he was dps… “Because I like this one better”… No idea of group play, and then they go to an Op and mess up completely, because they don’t know the basics. AND if you say something… You’re an elitist… When I first started playing I would absorb all the information anyone was willing to give me, and I would say it was my 1st time. Look, nobody was born all-knowing. But please inform other people, or else you are going to wipe… I have no problem carrying a guy or two on an easy Op if they’re honest and willing to learn… That’s what we all want, good players playing this great game.

              • SupRun

                My only problem is I can only upvote this ^ once instead of like a hundred times. People think if they ask then others will think down on them. I always say the opposite. And what do I care if someone who lives 1000 miles away from me that I will never meet thinks I’m a noob? I always say “ask now so we don’t wipe later.”

      • KShrike

        stahp it you’re making me hate the idea of bolstered players even more D:

        Can we do a proving grounds thing at 50 if we’re gonna be allowing fresh people to do UNDERLURKER!?!

  • Donut

    so ehm we only have to do the plantary storyline and class missions to lvl now ?acrding to this
    With the expansion, you just need to play the class missions and the planetary main story mission to level up. The side quests are now classified as exploratory missions and can be hidden.
    12XP will be going away with launch of Fallen Empire and be replaced with this new system.
    There are now special icons for the class/main story missions and heroic missions.
    so ehm yeah only class missions and planetary main story to lvl up ?

    • Darth Twinge

      actually, we can do that now with the legacy class mission increase, and the legacy exploration increase, plus keeping up the xp buffs. I leveled a sith warrior doing only class missions this way BEFORE 12x. You just have to make it a point to kill pretty much everything that gets in your way.

  • Sisqi

    So what I am not clear on, once you started KotFE, you cannot go back to any class story missions on lower level planets but what about the planet story missions (So not the class missions). Would you still be able to go back to those or will those be closed off too?

    • Kodiak

      The way I took it is that each planet has a class story quest line, planet story quest line, and then a bunch of side quests that don’t have to be done. Once you start KotFE, the only thing you can go back and do is the side quests. You won’t be able to go back and finish up any class quests or the main planet quest line.

      • Sisqi

        Ah, thanks! Now to consider if I will do those planet quests on my chars or not…..

    • Roach

      What you need to complete before KotFE: You don’t need to complete anything before Fallen Empire (i.e. no SOR, RoTHC class story etc). However, once you start KotFE you cannot go back and complete them again. This only applies to story missions, you can still do the side quests etc.

      • Roach

        It says: “This only applies to story missions,”

        • Galathir Darkstone

          Musco was explicit in the stream. This includes your class story missions, and the main arcs on Makeb, Rishi, Yavin, and Ziost. Side missions remain on those, but everything that moves the main story forward will be “marked as completed.”

    • OutlawBandit

      I would assume that the planet stories would still be available.

      In KotFE you’ll be dealing with characters you met earlier in the lvl1-60 class story. It would be silly to have a certain character as your companion in the expansion class story and then go back to do old stuff and meet them for the first time.

  • Anti-whiner

    Level sync not optional. You whiners deal with it. Don’t like the content? leave. No need to everyone here or wherever that you wanna quit blah blah blah. I’m not a fan of the level sync and the recycled content either, I’ll admit that but please enough with your sorry ass crying man wth. Just leave the game, one less whiner means one less noob in the game. Don’t agree with me? Go and whine like you whiners always do.

    • Disqus this

      I hope thats what gamers do because that what SWTOR needs. It needs more gamers that don’t like one aspect of SW to leave. A game feature that should have been optional from the initial design so both game play options could be there. Choose what best fits your entertainment and fun at the time. But you are right. We need to get more gamers out of SWTOR when they voice their opinion. The game has to many players doing that. You enjoy SWTOR but dislike having your max level toons turned into level 10 again. GTFO, the game doesn’t you.

      You can read the sarcasm right?

      • Anti-whiner

        Voicing your opinion is one thing, whining is another. You’re smart enough to know that and of course I don’t want my max level toon turned into level 10. Why not give it a try? I know some mmo’s have level syncing. If you think is not appropriate for your play style then you can go voice your opinion and I’ll say this again, I personally don’t like the level sync and shit but at least I’m going to give it a go before voicing my opinion all over the site.

        No sarcasm intended here.

        • Disqus this

          Cause I don’t need to give it a try to know I don’t like it. I’ve played MMOs for ages. Played leveling games for longer. I don’t play GW2 because of the leveling adjustment. I play FF14 but not events that level me down because it “F”ing worse there – you lose actual skills. With the given information we have, what I know already from having someone in closed beta in SWTOR and getting some nice tips It’s not something I’m going to enjoy. SO having my max level toon down graded to a level 10 (or whatever planet I go to) is not going to enhance my entertainment or fun just because I step out onto a planet. IF it was optional, that would be different. It’s not so I have to be against it as a forced game play feature that was neither needed or asked for to any real capacity.

    • Paulo Gomes

      Honestly, level syncing is one of the most exciting things I’ve seen here. Hell, yes I want a challenge, what’s the point of burning through 80% of the game like a God? It can be fun, maybe… People are fretting about the least important thing in this cast, really. I’m more worried about how my comps are gonna perform, how my comp’s gear is going to be useless for them, Some of them are even augmented ffs (yes, I’m THAT much of a nerd)… Their performance is going to be related by their affection… Lots of trips to Belsavis Bonus Series then… Level Syncing might just be fun…

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DarthRavan2012 Kevin Brennan

    Why can’t the Level-Sync be Optional? I’ve seen Final Fantasy XI do it and it works just great, so those that just wanna play through the Story without having a challenge can do that or if they just wanna explore a planet and go Datecron hunting don’t have to struggle fighting stuff in the Game with their High-Level toon and if they wanna earn XP and stuff just turn the Level-Sync on. This way everyone will be happy instead of forcing the Level-Sync to always be on.

    • Shaun Salisbury

      Because the story is very short so they want to make it so old content is relevant again.

    • Stephen Powell

      Struggle? Did you watch the same thing I did? Musco was swatting those mobs down like flies… Sure they weren’t one shots, but he barely spent more than a few seconds on mobs that are made challenge full parties. He was 4 levels over the mobs, and at no point do I recall him struggling.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/DarthRavan2012 Kevin Brennan

        Yeah, i saw that. Which makes me wonder how the Level-Sync really works, because from the sounds of it, it should nerf you down to that level with that stats but from what he showed it seems like all it did was downscale his level and if that’s really the case then i’m fine with it.

    • Saihah

      Heroics are content which provide relevant rewards at endgame- that’s why downscaling can’t be optional. If they made downscaling optional and you go and do a heroic on, say, Taris, having one of your people stay at level cap while the rest of you get full credit as he steamrolls the content is a very attractive option.

      It’s relevant rewards or optional downscaling, at the end of the day.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/DarthRavan2012 Kevin Brennan

        Easy fix, just don’t reward those Endgame rewards that Solo it with their High-Level toon just like you don’t get certain rewards for doing Solo Flashpoints.

        • Saihah

          But then having one person remain at level cap, while the others downscale to stomp the heroic is an appealing strategy.

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/DarthRavan2012 Kevin Brennan

            That’s not how it workt on Final Fantasy XI, if you didn’t agree with the Level-Sync like the rest of the Party you can’t join their Party.

  • Andrew McCunn

    So does this new leveling system mean that the 12x XP is more or less permanent, even to non-subscribers?

    • lore

      I don’t think so. It has a similar effect, as you only have to complete class stories and main missions to level. I am just not sure that you will progress at the same speed as you would with 12x (though I hope so). I really just wish they would leave the 12x personally. It works and a lot of people like it.

      • Aiko

        1:30:33 – What i get from this is that you only need to do the Class and Main Planetary Quest-line in order to get from 1-50.

        Since Free-2-Play player get less EXP than Subscriber, i’m pretty sure that they still need to do every single quest in order to reach 50, like before.

        • Andrew McCunn

          That ‘less exp’ thing is really killing my chances of bringing real life friends to the game -_-

          • OutlawBandit

            Make sure you’re all rolling with xp boosts and you should be fine. F2P players now have to do more to level the same as a subscriber. With KotFE you’ll still have to do more as a F2P, but it should be less. BW hopes you’ll advance to the point where you’ll want to spend money to continue playing with this new storyline content.

    • Shaun Salisbury

      No the exp scales depending on your level from +70%-200%.

    • Ancaglon

      Sort of. Now, instead of just doing the Class Story, you do Class Story + World Story (up to Ilum, after which World Story = Class Story) and that’s all you need to stay at par.

      This probably also means, for example, my Scoundrel who finished his class story late into level 54, can wait till 4.0 hits and then use Ilum and Makeb to get most of the way to 65.

  • Tekablade

    So here is a question, if you make a level 60 new character and take off the gear and send it to another character on that server, then delete the NEW character, can you make a new level 60 and just do that for each class? Or is it set to you can only make a level 60 once per server?

    • Shaun Salisbury

      Once you make a free level 60 it consumes your free token.

      • Tekablade

        Thanks

  • Nelly

    This obligatory level sync is nothing short of (and pardon my language) bullshit, it’s going to be a pain and a bother and it’s gonna make us angry the longer it gets. Sure sometimes it will be nice and whatever, but if i just wanna do endgame content i don’t wanna start fighting every blasted gray mob on Hoth or Belsavis! Maybe i just wanna farm some mats, get a datacron and get the hell out? For god’s sake… This is going to be so annoying…

    • Mashiro

      are you telling us you can’t handle a stupid wampa? stay in tython academy pal

      • Nelly

        I am telling you that i don’t understand why i am being forced to handle the stupid level 37 wampa when i am level 65 and all i wanna do is get some crafting mats.
        All the need to do is make the level sync optional and everyone is happy, how hard is that?

        • Ben Gimson

          You’re wasting your time. Folks here just want you to agree with them and, by extension, BW. Y u b so unreasonable, wanting the freedom to choose? :/

          • Galathir Darkstone

            You’re just as free to complain as others are to support the decision. #StopTheHypocracy ;)

        • Saihah

          Except according to an earlier post (http://dulfy.net/2015/08/06/swtor-gamescom-cantina-tour-qa/), they’re planning on making those gathering nodes adaptable, granting you materials depending on your gathering level. How do you think it’d work if you could go back to DK/Coruscant to get top tier mats without needing to fight anything?

          Optional level sync is completely and utterly demented in a system where going back and doing group content like the Heroics is expected to be a meaningful and relevant way to progress. If they let you faceroll these heroics at level cap, and still give you full rewards, then they’ve just fucked their game’s loot systems beyond belief.

          This is where the screaming baby image of MMO players comes from. You see one change completely out of context, refuse to think about the implications, and start wailing. Get a grip.

          • Paulo Gomes

            Yep, if these reworked missions are going to give full level rewards it would be insane to make syncing optional. And by the video it doesn’t seem like Musco is struggling a lot… Of course it’s DK and things might be different on higher lv planets, but I welcome a little challenge. I mean, we solo EVERYTHING these days don’t we? It gets old fast…

          • Galathir Darkstone

            You’re off-base on the mechanics of the Loot Nodes, Saihah. Gathering in DK will get you DK Mats… just LOTS of them for a 65. However, that doesn’t change the over all impact of the Level-Synching with Gathering. They won’t want the High levels to be able to gather totally combat free while level appropriate players have to fight for the same nodes.

            • Saihah

              Oh, my mistake. I read the source as “the game doesn’t care what planet you’re on, you get mats depending on your skill level”. If you could shoot me a link with the new info that’d be wonderful :)

              • Galathir Darkstone

                It’s on this page under “Crafting Changes.” — “No matter your skill level, you can gather material of any tier. The relative difference between your skill and the tier will determine how much you get. i.e. 500 bioanalysis getting tier 1 material will get a whole bunch of them. A level 1 bioanalysis trying to get a tier 6 material isn’t going to get much.” — Just scroll up ;)

              • Saihah

                Lol I should probably finish my coffee before writing things on the internet.

              • Paulo Gomes

                Well, your reasoning for the level syncing still stands, so you’re still cool. :)

            • Ancaglon

              My level 60 shadow, assassin, scoundrel, and soon to be another operative and scoundrel, disagree with you regarding the need to fight everything….

        • Mashiro

          you ever played Skyrim? the game where a mudcrab can kill you? well it’s basically the same :P

    • Xargaa

      Even at max level if you are on let’s say Belsavis for a datacron, you will have the advantage of all your passives and abilities and if you have half a brain it wouldn’t take much to still break the mobs

    • Ancaglon

      Stealth ftw :)

  • predi

    No more lvl 60 jerks hunting low level players on Tatooine. Finally!

    • Paulo Gomes

      Yep, maybe it’s a nice remedy for ganking…

      • Ancaglon

        It’s an incidental benefit, certainly, since the lower level character’s abilities are going to be able to affect the would-be-ganker, but I expect that a level 60+ in expertise gear is still going to be a serious threat. The risk they take in getting f’d up in return, however, has significantly increased — and that’s absolutely correct.

    • Mashiro

      I see low level trolls trying to hunt down high level players, would be fun xD

  • Sadriel_Fett

    Sounds like some good changes, some WTF changes, and some “I guess I’ll have to see how it is when I start using it” changes. Fairly pleased with a lot of the quality of life changes. Very glad about the “random mount generator” ability. I know a lot of people have wanted that for quite some time. Getting some old event items again will be nice. Looks like you can actually get the vendors for your strongholds too, from the picture. Cool. Some of the crafting and UI changes, I’ll have to wait and see how good/bad they may be. I’m kind of annoyed at what now seems like a waste of upgrading all my companions gear this whole time, however, it will be nice to not have to worry about spending credits on mods on their gear. I have a sneaking suspicion that the older planet level scaling thing is going to end up getting changed. Because, let’s be honest, that’s a big load of BS right there. I can see a lot of uproar because of that and they’ll end up changing it back. They always cave in on stuff like that, so I’m really not too concerned about that being an issue for long.

    • Shaun Salisbury

      No it’s here to stay because the level scaling will give you something to do after the short storyline.

    • Sarigar

      They’re not going to cave on it. It’s a highly desirable feature that opens up literal worlds of content to players of all levels, and will not be even a minor hindrance to max level characters in blue mods or better. I think once people see it, they will realize they were worried about nothing at all.

    • Paulo Gomes

      The Random Mount Generator is sick!!! We have so many mounts, and it’s impossible to have dedicated buttons to some or all of them, so basically we use the same mount all the time, and forget about the others. NO MORE looooool… Now we get a different one each time… Cool!

      • Stephen Powell

        I’m fairly ambivalent about that, personally, but I have each character get a personal mount that is the one they always use.
        Still, it’s a pretty dang awesome feature.

      • advocatus diaboli

        To each his own – there is no way I would use it since I only want a mount with the best knockoff protection

        • Ben Gimson

          And now you’re gonna need it.

        • Paulo Gomes

          Well, it’s not a game changer for sure, it’s just a nice new toy I guess…

    • Galathir Darkstone

      In addition to the other reasons cited for them not rolling back the Synching, the PVP anti-gank facet will be big reason to keep this in. However, with the Gathering changes, they also want it to be more competitive than “A level 65 rolls in and hits all the nodes while the level 15s all fight mobs just trying to get to them.” So I think Synching will stick for the long haul.

      • Sadriel_Fett

        I can definitely see that being good on PvP servers. They should make it able to be toggled off, though, like other games. On PvE servers if you get ganked while flagged you only have yourself to blame. They can argue about not having a choice in the Outlaws Den, but unless you’re getting the stuff for the HK companion quest there’s no reason to ever go there. They have the tunnels to the north and south of it, so you can bypass it and the opposite faction bases completely in order to get to the Dune Sea.

        • Galathir Darkstone

          Are you intentionally ignoring the very PVE Gathering reasons to NOT make it toggled? There’s no reason for a toggle anyway. If you aren’t interested in any legit reason to be on a lower level planet… then it doesn’t matter… and if you are, then the synching boosts your reward and minimizes your negative impact.

  • http://www.rebelminds.dk Kenneth Jørgensen

    So, is the Legendary status, completing the 8 different class stories, just chapter 1-2-3? Or all the way to end of Revan?

    • Mashiro

      first basic story mode I think

    • Stephen Powell

      From the stream, it looks to be just completing chapter 3 on each class, though how you would be able to do that and skip chapters 1 and 2 without cheating like a Musco, is beyond me.

      But yeah, as Mash said, the basic story (chapters 1-3) on every class will get you the Legendary Status, from what we were shown.

    • Alex Handley

      all 3 chapters thats it

  • Gareth Grist

    I am curious to know if the level sync will also effect aggro range too?

    • Sarigar

      Probably, you’ll have the same aggro range as you would to mobs that are green to you.

      • Stephen Powell

        Which may end up being the one downside for me with level syncing. Being able to run by trash mobs was nice.

  • Sarigar

    The thing I’m looking forward to most with Level Sync is being able to hang out on lower level worlds and help out folks who need it, while not completely facerolling the content they’re trying to beat. Being able to help out as a current 60 is great, but when you one-shot everything, you’re not helping so much as doing it for them.

    • Naq

      I made a Vigilance JK, and honestly, if I don’t get to finish my master strike I make a sadface. I’d prefer to be able to saber toss, leap in, get in some good chops, masterstrike….I get lost in it, I love all the animations so much. One shotting is fun sometimes too cause leap keeps resetting, but I really like getting dug in.

    • Stephen Powell

      Also, at that point, you’re currently killing their xp.
      With level sync, I’ll be able to run with friends I bring into the game on my main characters, instead of rolling a new character. Rather awesome.

      • Sarigar

        There is a mitigating factor to that: the XP from mob kills is negligible most of the time, the payoff is the quest completion XP, which is not affected by helpful facerolling juggernauts. XP would only be an issue if someone was grinding mob kills for XP, and I’ve never seen anyone do that in SWTOR (thankfully).

        • Stephen Powell

          Thank goodness they balanced the xp for stealthed characters who skip mobs.

          Still, on characters that stealth, I usually can see a 2-3 level difference by end game. Not a lot, considering they are still 50+, but it is a factor.

          • Ancaglon

            Stealthers are optimal for 12x :) and probably will also be so for the post-4.0 situation where Class Story + World Story = all you need.

    • Paulo Gomes

      Yep, now I can help my son with his game and actually teach him stuff instead of: ” you see, now we do… Oh wait he’s dead…” ;)

    • Saihah

      I am REALLY keen on being able to do every heroic and have them still feel like they’re a relevant challenge for my character.

    • Joe

      Agreed. This is a really cool feature that a lot of other MMO’s have been introducing and is much needed. This will actually be a big help to me bringing back a few of my friends who quit the game. This and basically all of the other features being revamped/added. This xpac is really boosting my hopes for this game.

    • Iron-Clad

      I think the Level Sync will probably be for the best, I hope its what I think it is once its fully fleshed out and I can actually try it out. Having -every- heroic quest in the game available to get end-game rewards opens up a ton of options for how to kill time. Also, being able to choose your favorite planets to level on opens up very non-linear options for the leveling process. Are you a little behind on xp and want a level or two before you continue your class quest (or you don’t care about class quest), but you are on Voss and just hate it? Well, now you could go back to quests you skipped on DK or tat, etc. and do those instead. Or as everyone else has said, you can go lvl up with a friend of a different lvl.

      As far as all the people complaining about not being able to run past trash mobs or 1 shot everything, what exactly are you doing on the older planets?
      Farming crafting mats? You’ll now get a ton of low tier crafting mats per node if you are max skill; it will probably be faster to kill mobs while scaled down and farm a handful of nodes with the new boost than getting 4 mats per node running around not fighting.
      Farming datacrons? If you haven’t yet, you probably won’t. Also, very few of them actually require you to fight to get them, and those that do are very easily done if you are a few levels higher (as you will be with the sync). Not to mention that they are legacy-wide now with an in-game checklist of what you’re missing… datacrons have never been easier.
      Farming world bosses for the game hunter achievement? Ok, this one will suck now, you got me there. Fortunately there is time left before this goes live so you could go solo that achieve right now if you’re concerned about it.

      • Steven_Stephanson

        Awesome comment agree completely.

  • Mer Vila

    Make Aurora Cannon / Long Shot soloable while you´re at it, please? :3 ty!

    • Sarigar

      Seconded. Hopefully they’ll make the Seeker Droid and Macrobinoculars mission chains soloable, as well. Meaning the final missions, since the rest of the missions are already soloable.

      • Holyfrog

        Yeah those were such a pain to get a group together to do.

      • Paulo Gomes

        Hummm… Not sure I agree there, some of the best experiences I’ve had was with groups for those specific 2 quests… I understand it’s VERY frustrating to get a group going for those, but they’re so nice, especially the Binocs final mission… Maybe they could add a GF option for those, I think making them soloable would take out the fun of doing them… But that’s just me…

        • Sarigar

          I think the ideal solution would be a soloable mode, and a Heroic mode for groups.

          • Paulo Gomes

            Anyways, the Seeker Droids final mission is doable with just 2 people, I’ve done it. It’s a pain, granted, but doable…

        • Mer Vila

          I´ve never finished those just because on how hard it is to get a group. I think a solo/group option would ROCK MY SOCKS

    • j’oe

      months ago, they said they were working on that mission.. maybe here it is

  • advocatus diaboli

    I am very disappointed with mandatory level sync, optional would be great.

  • Xorras

    Dem. I really like that they made all heroics 2+ instead of 4

  • Yeller

    Will the Legendary status still apply for legacy accounts that have completed a class chapter 1-3 previously, but deleted the character? It’s still logged as completed, and I can use the ability, buff etc.

    Anyone know anything about this?

    • Galathir Darkstone

      I would assume that if your Legacy has the Achievements for completing each Chapter 3, then you’re golden for ‘Legendary.’

      • http://www.lmgtfy.com idnewton

        That’s my assumption as well.

        Personally I’d never delete a 50+ toon (or something close to it) but that’s just me.

      • Yeller

        Yeah, so was my assumption. But you never know =P I’d rather have it confirmed soon.

        And nice pun on “Golden” =P Genius lol

  • http://www.lmgtfy.com idnewton

    Oh boy, here we go:

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    Stand by for text overload

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    • New L60 characters will get a recommended Discipline – always DPS and discipline with a simpler rotation

    Good. Smart choice.

    • Character limit increase

    Awesome. I love it. But why did you delay this information so long? People quit because they expected the worst, you know. Confirm this kind of stuff early so you can make your players happy and give them hope, damnit!

    • How much will new L60 costs on the cartel market?

    With all the information given, I’m not picky. Fair enough, but it’d be nice to know at some point before 4.0 launches, just for curiosity’s sake :P

    • Starter Gear

    Nice, I like how it’s transferrable for appearance. Gear rating seems acceptable, not too strong and not too weak (well maybe a little bit weak, but we can’t know for sure)

    • Mastery

    Awesome. I like how each class had their individual stat, it made them feel a bit more unique, but let’s be honest — the mainstat names never UNIVERSALLY made sense. In the real world, does a sniper need more cunning or more aim? DEFINITELY aim. Stats-wise though in this game getting aim for a sniper wasn’t usually a good choice (a select few exceptions did and do exist, mainly pertaining to Marksmanship). Mastery is also a decent name. Getting more of it increases your combat effectiveness… etc. Does it make sense that you have more mastery based on the pants you’re wearing? No, but that doesn’t make sense REGARDLESS of the stat name, so it’s not really worth arguing that point.

    • Tutorial Mode

    It helps new players get started, YET IT CAN BE TURNED OFF. THANK you! I was worried I’d have to deal with that BS every auto-60 I bought. *SO* glad that’s not going to be the case.

    • Discipline window

    Nice. I always felt like another point for the heroic tier would really let us get most/all of the goodies and make it more fun for everyone. Nice to hear.

    • What you need to complete before KotFE

    Don’t need to complete anything — good. Starting KotFE kills your story missions? Sigh (toward the inevitable backlash). Look, here’s the thing. This is becoming a VERY story-focused game. But it’s still an MMO, and as such it is still bound by a lot of the shackles MMOs have. Sacrifices like this HAVE to be made in order for the story to feel meaningful and you to actually be immersed in it. Thus, I agree. It’s not an easy decision to make, but it is a wise one.

    • Crew skills on new L60

    Interesting, very interesting. If auto-60s get all the companions, I have to assume that they CANNOT participate in their class story. Also, getting crew skills… well… that’s really nice, but I think maybe it’s a bit OP? Idk, I mean, at this point, I can’t even cycle through 22 toons sending them on 30minute missions before 30 mins has passed again (mainly because I get distracted by chat and YouTube), so it won’t create a bigger problem than already exists. I think it’s KINDA a slap in the face to everyone who already grinded out all that stuff, but…. eh. It’s not a HUGE deal. I kinda like it. However, there are crew skill which aren’t tied to a class, like slicing and biochem. As long as those are still being incorporated onto some classes, I’ll be fine. But if they aren’t granted with any auto-60 class, that will be very interesting and those crew skills will be in high demand… (gears in brain start clicking) :P

    • Companions

    Nice, nice… companion gear from yavin is player-usable now, awesome… but no need for the ‘except weapons’ part because the weapons come from Rishi missions XD Sadly, I know that if that text wasn’t put in, it would create another worry-whirlpool like the currency rename did, where people freak out about speculations for no reason rather than relying on the exact words said. ^_^

    • Legendary status

    Nice. But didn’t musco say in the stream that it gave you a cool character portrait too? I would like to see that. (like when you target an enemy elite, it’s all gold). Gold would be best, because being on a planet your guild owns gives you silver. Thus, if you had legendary status AND were on a planet your guild owned, you could have the champion portrait (gold plus silver). That’s what I’d like to see, at least. Still nice tho.

    • Companions on the Cartel Market

    AWESOME. I mean, it’s an Akk Dog, who cares, right? No, it’s way better than that. They could add ANYTHING. They could add a Revan companion, a Bastila companion, a Revanite companion, a generic Wookiee companion (not as cool as Bowdaar tho :P), a bunch of different Jedi companions, a Republic Trooper companion, and Imperial Trooper companion, a generic Mandalorian companion (not as cool as Torian but still), etc. The first manifestations of this addition will be minimal and not all that great (just like the Cartel Market itself) but the potential is UNBELIEVABLE. Also, they can be sold on the GTN. Nice. I sure hope so — Never directly bought CC and I never will.

    • New Interface Editor/Share keybinds

    Nice. That grid function is SO LONG overdue. As for sharing keybinds, I’m pretty sure that can already be done since they’re stored client-side (I think they’re in the XML files but I could be wrong). Granted, it’s a lot more time-consuming than this feature will be, I imagine.

    • Temporary Ability Bars

    Never even thought of it. Awesome idea. As long as they’re a part of the interface editor, it’s all good. I’d like to be able to customize the abilities that show up rather than them just being the preset ones (like if I have the huttball, it’d be nice to be able to put defensives and leaps on there too), but the confirmed aspects are good as they are :P

    • Crafting Changes

    Cap at 500… okay… if you’re adding 61-65 crafts, this sounds… unwise… but I’ll have to see it for myself. No more tiers = ??? “having to train every 75″ Um… not really sure what you mean. You mean Artifice, Advanced Artifice and Expert Artifice? That’s at 400 and 450. Do you mean I no longer need to have a certain skill level to train a schematic from the vendor? I highly doubt that.

    Armor starts at blue — awesome. Green armor really did screw with crafting while leveling. I remember specifically giving advice to someone who was trying to craft while leveling (new player) and I was like, don’t even bother, it takes too long and it’s too expensive as a lowbie with no max toons — just get to max and then worry about it. Also, all of it’s adaptive. Nice. And since all mainstats are mastery now, that really opens things up. Which then leads to the realization… there really is no difference between armormech and synthweaving as far as armor crafting goes (aside from class-specific restrictions which are few and far between).

    Changes to the types of items the crew skills craft… okay… interested to see that.

    Crafting tiers changed to 1-8, presumably making tier 9 = tier 7, and tier 11 = tier 8, and then aligning the weird non-standard crafting materials (pvp and pve endgame ones) with the grade of the level you get them at. Nice. The tier system right now is stupid. There’s no reason green materials should go from tier 1 to 6, then jump to 9, then jump to 11. Frickin pointless.

    Cleaning up the materials, nice… hopefully getting rid of the completely unnecessary overload of Bioanalysis materials.

    Old schematics archived… okay… not sure what that does… it’d be nice to have all our item-used schematics in one place, but this only applies to old schematics. I don’t think we’ll understand this change til we get our hands on KotFE.

    • Gathering changes

    Nice, this is awesome. This is how I always wished it worked. Good to hear.

    • Mission changes

    It’s about damn time! That was always a straight-up ABSURD design choice. I shouldn’t have to swap between strongholds to send my minions on missions. Such a stupid concept. So glad they kissed that BS goodbye.

    • Currency changes:

    Glad they addressed and confirmed this. It is as I suspected, but I did acknowledge that there was still a chance they could justify wiping our currency (with the words they used) but I’m glad that isn’t the case. You never know… but now we do :) which is nice.

    Also, weekly comm cap removed. Okay, look. This system sucked, everyone knows it, but at least there was a reason for this. Problem is, people were BLAZING through content, farming the necessary comms for full comms gear withing a single week. This put a limit on that to force people to progress slower. Unfortunately for them, it backfired and a lot of progression players said screw this and went on to play better PvE games (granted comms gear was never a huge part of progression but it did still play a role and this gate just pissed people off). This may have been designed to keep people doing random group finders for longer. However, with the level balancing and bolster syncing, SM ops queues and HM flashpoint queues are 50-65 if memory serves, so there should be more than enough people in the queue regardless. I’m glad they fixed this system; I, like everyone else, disliked it — but I still feel it’s necessary to point out that there was SOME logic behind it, even if it was flawed (as time has shown)

    • Legacy changes

    Legacy datacrons, oh man. So glad. And it’s not like I’m glad I don’t have to farm them on every toon anymore. I’m glad my newer toons will get the stats I’ve earned, because I’ve said “screw it” and haven’t gotten them on the vast majority of my toons. The toon I’ve been raiding with for ten months has… one datacron? Two? I’m glad I won’t be penalized for saying “**** the crons” and acting on that mentality XD

    Speeder Piloting I at level 1… I don’t actually think it’s at level 1. I think the legacy perk is level 1 but I think we still have to wait to 10 to get it without the perk. I could be wrong about that, though. Even so, I guess it’s fine, but honestly anyone with enough credits to spend 40k to use a mount from 1 through 9 has the credits to buy auto-60s off the GTN, I assume.

    Summon random pet and random mount… look, here’s the thing. As a user, I don’t care. Never wanted it, never asked for it. However, as a member of the community, I *am* really glad they added this as I know it’s been a requested feature for a VERY long time. Also, it’s free… thank you. As it should be. I wouldn’t put it past them to charge for something like this, so I’m glad they restrained themselves >_<

    • Cape Clipping

    Bold statement, especially since the mount he showcased in the video DID have clipping on the left side at the beginning of his demonstration (if memory serves). I know it says 'most capes' but still, I'm not convinced. I like that they're trying, but I'm skeptical that they succeeded.

    • Collections/New Cartel pack

    New cartel pack, yeah, whatever, who cares XD the cartel market's pack cycle is in its own little world. New armors are nice, but I wouldn't consider this related to the CONTENT of KotFE.

    Collections window collapsed by default, thank you SO much. I'm not a collections fanatic, I'm not a collections completionist, but when I want to grab something I've unlocked, it'll be really nice to get there easily.

    Searchable collections — nice. I love it.

    Not having to change characters to buy an account unlock for a collections item. Thank you very very much. Stupid requirement, glad they killed that off.

    • Events and Event rewards

    All in one place, nice. Chevin and Original Rakghoul event items, nice…. HOLD UP YOU SAID THEY HAVE CONTAINMENT OFFICER GEAR? YOU MEAN, I CAN ACTUALLY GET SHARP DRESSER NOW? :o Okay, INTERESTED :D

    Also, red sparkle powder. Damn straight. I still have one on a toon of mine XD But I did, about a year ago, sell 19 others to some idiot for 199k each XD Good times.

    • Leveling changes on core worlds

    Good, I like this. Hidable side-quests, nice. I like this too.

    The Icon changes are great, I guess. I just think they should be careful about the colors. The new colors for the group member missions aren't different enough in my opinion. They look too much like the standard gold & green, just mushed together.

    • Group Finder Interface

    50-65 for SM ops and HM FP. Nice. Tactical FP from 10-65, nice, very nice.

    • KotFE Chapter Interface

    Good, but I'd be careful with it. When you click Play and then click Launch, if a character hasn't finished any story stuff that will be disabled, they should get a warning pop-up letting them know. You REALLY don't want players accidently starting KotFE without realizing they'll never fulfill their life-long dream of beating the **** out of Tarro Blood.

    • Companion Customization

    Good, good…. can't change Darth Marr, good… some things just have to be that way, for the sake of the lore. Star Wars lore doesn't explain how Darth Vader takes a crap, nor should it. Some things are best left unexplained (like darth marr's face, etc)

    • Changes to Heroic Missions

    Nice, I like this. And the priority transport is AMAZING, thank you SO MUCH for thinking this system through, for ONCE.

    • Level-Sync

    Ah, and now we come to the controversial topic. I have very strong feelings on this one… are you ready for my opinion? Here it is: I absolutely love this change. This makes all lowbie content fun and exciting to some extent, even as a 65. This allows BW to give us these weekly heroics, which is a bunch of new-feeling things to do to progress. A republic trainee on quesh should not be more powerful than a JEDI MASTER who has infiltrated DROMUND KAAS, THE CAPITAL OF THE SITH EMPIRE. It just doesn't make sense, and this change alleviates some of that stupidity. We keep our passives, our gear, our utilities, our ABILITIES… that's all awesome. We're not losing anything. The only real "downside" is that we can't faceroll lower level content, which was kinda stupid to begin with. I should not be able to take my skinny sniper, take off all his gear, throw him in a pit of 10-foot-tall hungry beasts on Korriban, then go and take a shower, come back and see him still alive. SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT, HERE. Also, this change will allow us to gain XP when helping a lowbie on his missions, for example. I'm literally going to my friend's house TONIGHT and getting him set up with this game, with a subscription, etc. I am literally going to have to tell him "If I group with you in this MMO you will level slower". There is something fundamentally wrong with that. This is a big change, it's going to have some significant effects, but it's a good change, a wise decision, and it will make the game a whole lot enjoyable for newbie and veteran players alike. Whine if you want, we know it's because you're used to facerolling stuff cause you're afraid of even the slightest bit of challenge ^_^

    I should also mention, for the people who are saying they should make it optional, two things. "No", and "Wow". That doesn't even begin to make sense. If it's toggleable, the entire goal of the feature is lost. If it's toggleable, everyone who has it toggled off is going to be insta-kicked from Heroic groups. Do you even think these ideas through? It's not even remotely logical to make this toggleable. I bet you're one of those people who thinks there should be world peace and yet thinks that everyone should be able to do what they want. You're stupid. Do you not get that some people WANT to kill other people? You CANNOT give players unlimited choice and still have a functional system.

    • Changes to Anti-aliasing

    Okay, random change, nice, but nothing super exciting at least for me. Good to hear, but not something I'm likely to use, myself.

    • Influence/Affection/Presence

    Yeah… I like how this works… but do you notice in the stream when asked about presence, he really didn't ACTUALLY answer the question? He saw it was about presence, he started talking about presence, then it made him think of affection/influence, and then he started describing affection/influence and never even answered the question, which was about presence. We still don't have a solid answer on that.

    • Alliance Feature

    Disappointed we'll have to wait pretty much until early access starts to hear about this. Sounds like a pretty big deal, with a whole lot of ramifications.

    • Dôt

      TLDR

      • http://www.lmgtfy.com idnewton

        TL:DR – This time around, I agree with everything they did, surprisingly. Disappointed that Alliance won’t be explained until very close to Early Access and that we never actually got an answer for Presence, but these are minor peeves. Also, people who say Level-Sync should be optional are idiots; they have not thought the suggestion through at all, have no idea the problems this would cause, and should really stop and think before voicing ideas as foolish and short-sighted as that.

        • http://forceunleashed.pl mytel77

          I think the best thing we get from Level-Sync is the fighting chance against high lvl gankers. No more free kill !!!

    • http://www.lmgtfy.com idnewton

      I did some math, I think this post, if put in MLA format (and removing all the enter key uses) would be about ten pages long. LAWL. Good thing I type reasonably fast, this would take some people 24 hours >_<

    • j’oe

      the only reason for the downgrade to be bad is if you just want to quickly get kill achievements, by onehitting everyone with strong AOEs… now that will be gone… but overkill just got killed… HAH

    • needsomemiracle

      > I shouldn’t have to swap between strongholds to send my minions on missions. Such a stupid concept. So glad they kissed that BS goodbye.

      It seems more and more that over the last year or so BW/EA had a complete change of staff in the TOR department, and the new people are dealing with all the weird decisions their predecessors made. Could be wrong though.

      • http://www.lmgtfy.com idnewton

        Not sure I’ve seen a whole lot of that, I’d have to go back and look at past (yet somewhat recent) decisions. A lot of *these* changes are along those lines, though, yes, and these changes don’t just happen overnight so yes they’ve likely been purging BS for a while, and we’re only now starting to see the fruits of that effort. It’s about time, too :P

        • needsomemiracle

          - Crew skill missions are no longer randomly locked out

          Compare with changes from recent updates:

          – Fleet shuttle and quick travel CDs reduced (up to zero seconds via upgrades)
          – No longer necessary to click QT terminals at landmarks (how many times have you heard “oh, can’t QT there, forgot to unlock it”?)

          There’s more along those lines I can’t recall off the top of my head, and they all revamp elements made a long time ago. Not to mention the Cartel armor designs have improved – compare recent commendation gear to level 50 commendation sets.

          • http://www.lmgtfy.com idnewton

            True, true…

          • Stephen Powell

            Because “that’s the way we’ve always done it” doesn’t mean that’s how we should do it now.

            But then I like many of these changes.

  • IncuBB .

    OMG, this is true…
    This will be ultimate biofail they made EVER.
    Level downgrade? Seriosly?
    You just… taken away MY achivement? MY time?? MY EFFORTS?????
    Who cares about low-level anyway???
    They get Exp from quests!!! If they leveling by killing mobs – TELL THEM TO DO QUESTS AND STOP DOING BULLSHIT!!!!
    WTF is wrong with those Bio-idiots????

    • Sarigar

      What are you talking about?

    • http://www.lmgtfy.com idnewton

      Being on a low level planet doesn’t literally take away your levels, it just sets you at the effectiveness of roughly that planet’s level while you’re there. You’re still shown as being whatever level you really are.

      To be blunt, you’re kinda stupid. And by “kinda”, I mean “very”.

      “MY achivement? MY time?? MY EFFORTS?????” You sound like a petulant child. If you get this worked up about something like this, you should really take a good look at what you’re talking about and make sure you even understand it correctly.

      • IncuBB .

        Yes. I maybe sound like a child.
        But let me ask you, almighty adult person:
        imagine – you have a supercar. It’s powerful and fast.
        But then… Someone taken it from you becouse “others are not fast as you – it’s not fair”.
        And how exactly will you feel about it, huh?
        Will you fight for what YOU achieved or will you just say – “Oh, boy!!! This is so awsome!!!” ?.

        P.S. If you want to troll – learn how to do it right, idiot.

        • Naq

          Those are called speed limits. (Now thats how you troll…)

          • IncuBB .

            No kiddo. In this case it’s called F2P limitations on gained experience.
            And THAT is speed limits.

            • Naq

              Yeah…you are bad at metaphors. (upside I get to use this again…ALREADY)

              • IncuBB .

                So… In Murica police take away your supercar to ensure you respect speed limits?
                Wow
                The more you learn…

              • 23velyn

                Your “supercar” isn’t taken away as you still keep your passives and abilities which will make clearing contents a breeze despite the level sync.

              • IncuBB .

                Yeah… Let’s take Ferrari and put engine from Daewoo Matiz in it.
                Awsome desicion.

              • Emprah

                Wow you are dumb! Are you related to Honey Boo Boo?

              • IncuBB .

                Wow, you are asshole! Are you related to Timati?

            • http://www.lmgtfy.com idnewton

              *Yawn* Are you done yet? First rule of making any comment: if you want respect, at least try to appear literate.

        • Galathir Darkstone

          Speed Limits. Suck it up, kiddo.

        • Paulo Gomes

          Using the car analogy, without level syncing it’s like taking a Ferrari to the supermarket for shopping: it’s fast all right, but overpowered, no room for the kids, for the groceries… With level syncing imagine you go to the garage, transform into a comfortable SUV where all the family can go well seated, room for groceries, bags and such… After you put all the stuff you bought home and the kids too, shift back into a Ferrari, you can go all out pedal to the metal to your next daily, Op, or whatever…

    • Holyfrog

      Wow! As idnewton said below you are very stupid. It’s like going to do the Gree event at lvl 55 with the buff to lvl 60 only its backwards. It actually making it some what of a challenge to go back to lower planets. You said “who cares about low-level anyway?” So if you don’t care why are you bitching about it?

      P.S. If you are going to rage maybe you should learn Engrish a little better so you can string together a coherent sentence.

      • IncuBB .

        I don’t give a f*ck about my “engrish” becouse i’m not live in “engrish” speking country. Problems with that?

    • R315r4z0r

      They aren’t taking anything away from you. They are only increasing the challenge of the lower level planet.

      You don’t want to be downgraded? Don’t travel to a low level planet.

      • IncuBB .

        Why i should be “challenged” in the first place?
        I spend my time (and RL money also) on my character.
        I’m running ops and FP.
        Why should i be challenged by low-level planets again?
        Give me at least ONE good reason.

        • R315r4z0r

          Because you’re paying real money and spending real time. That’s why.
          1. If you’re too high and just steamroll the planet, then the planet becomes useless. By returning it to a challenging state, they are effectively increasing the amount of content available to you.
          2. If you are helping a friend level, it’s no longer of no benefit to you. You can level with a friend 20 levels lower than you and not only will you be able to level at the same pace, but you also get drops relevant to you. – You are rewarded for helping lower level players instead of it being some selfless way to use your time.
          3. With everything being a challenge again (and I use that word lightly), it allows them to add new content to old worlds without the need to create a boxed off “high-levels only” area.
          4. World bosses are now relevant.
          5. I like challenges. I pay for this game just as much as you do. What makes your opinion a higher priority than mine? Especially if you aren’t actually losing anything?

          There. 5 reasons. :)

          • IncuBB .

            1. Im not doing low-level planets becouse i’v already done it.
            2. “Low-level friend” can always find help on the planet from the same low-leveled characters, which will have much more “profit” than me – 65 level character.
            3. People don’t need challenge when they farming credits, decorations, crafting materials.
            4. Relevant for who? What will 65 leveled character will get from it? Credits? Oh, don’t make me laugh. Loot? Dude… This even funnier.
            5. If you like challenge – run ops/FP naked. Or without AC. There’s a plenty of challenge that you can get without hurting other players game experience.

            You see? All your so called arguments are not so solid as you think.
            Try to find somethimg more interesting and valid.

            • R315r4z0r

              None of those responses are valid. Especially the first one, which contradicts your entire argument.

              1. You’re not doing low level planets because you’ve already done them? So why are you complaining about this in the first place?
              2. You missed the argument completely. I didn’t say you’re helping them as a max level, I said you’re a few levels above them.

              3. They damn straight need a challenge when farming stuff. But again, the word “challenge” here is being used incredibly lightly. The “challenge” would be about as hard as being 5 levels above a planet’s current level range in live.

              4. XP, decorations, mats, comms… and credits :P
              5. “Hurting other’s game experience.” I fail to see how anyone’s game experience is hurt by this.

  • JasonRyder

    Legacy Datacrons and Cape Clipping fixed? FINALLY!!

    • http://inhuman-swtor.enjin.com Xiras

      clinping ? what cliping ? head going into “hood” or they mean capes of chest which one going into mount and looks like trash ? :P

      • Ancaglon

        They mean the way “capes” and long coats ended up sticking out of the bottom of many mounts.

        I did notice the legacy datacrons actually listed Balmorra and Taris Empire and Republic separately, so even though I have “Datacron Master”, since I actually only picked up those on the Republic side I’ll need to go get them on the Imperial side too.

        Still, nothing as bad as trying to get to the Makeb Endurance datacron again, or all the time wasted hitting the invisible boxes just before the Nar Shadda cunning one.

  • Galathir Darkstone

    Level Synching: Not as scary as you think :P Musco slaughters some heroic mobs in that stream starting at 1:46:09 while his level 60 Merc is Synched down to level 18 on DK. You fear for nothing :P Plus everything you do on those low level planets will now reward you with YOUR level appropriate XP & Loot.

    • IncuBB .

      Oh yeah… Blues and XP you are unable to gain after reaching level cap is SO helpful…
      Im so exited now -_-

      • Saihah

        For leveling? The random blues you get are nice, and you can always use them in your wardrobe.

        At endgame? You’re hopefully going to rotate through several planets, doing their heroics, racking up lockboxes and classic comms by the truckload. Sitting in one spot farming mobs isn’t viable now and it probably never will be.

      • Galathir Darkstone

        Then don’t go to low level planets? Clearly there is a reason you are there. This change only makes those reasons better. Unless you just want to go flex how awesomez you aren’t by being at level cap on a lower level planet. At least tell me you figured out that no one is actually permanently taking away your levels when you get synched? lol

    • Tygur

      This was my worry. I go to lower level planets not to show off, but to mop up side quests as mobs can be easily dispatched and I can enjoy the story without pressure. After watching that section of the video, I think you are right and theres not much to worry about. If you can do heroics as easily as displayed, plus teleport to then AND get rewards (even if only minor ones) sign me up, I did a complete 180 after watching. Thanks for sharing. I think this whole thing is going to be much better than expected.

      • Galathir Darkstone

        Yeah…. I thought the same thing. The port to Heroic deal is going to be pretty convenient. And he really brutalized those mobs… even though I noticed the Discipline button on his bar was lit up… so unspent points… and he had one half-assed action bar out. I really don’t think anyone is really going to have any real negative impression of synching once we see it in play.

  • awesomea doubleOhseven

    Lets do a Devs vs Players PvP match haha

  • Holyfrog

    I WANT A HUTT COMPANION!!!

    If I can’t play as a Hutt maybe now I can buy one.

    • Dataminededed

      You can recruit Dr Oguruub in your “alliance”

  • R315r4z0r

    The level-sync has me confused slightly.

    Okay, I understand downgrading your level when going to a lower level planet. But… what about AS you’re leveling?

    Don’t you think that it’s going to really confuse new players when they achieved level 15 but are only effectively a level 12? They are going to think that the leveling system is bugged.

    • Paulo Gomes

      The one way that makes sense is that, as you must know, you start to gain no xp from a Heroic 6 or 7 levels above the level of the quest. So I would ASSUME that if you are a couple of levels above the Heroic’s level you will not be downgraded, only when you reach the “level cap” of the aforementioned…

      • Galathir Darkstone

        I don’t think it’s at level cap only, but for DK, the “synched” level was 18. So unless you hit 19 or higher, you’ll never notice. And there is an indicator on the screen to let people know what’s up. I expect a tutorial tip as well. In the end, those leveling up that -do- hit 19 or higher on DK, for example, will -benefit- by continuing to earn XP for missions there… when they would normally go gray. Win-win while leveling up.

        • Ancaglon

          Indeed, so if you really want to do all the content on a world before moving on to the next, as I did with my very first character, then you’re not in the situation of actually getting just 6 XP per mob or mission when you eventually reach the next world.

  • Tygur

    Every single thing here is awesome. Except one. My main draw in continuing to play is to max out a toon, so I can run back to low level areas and smash the quests, enjoying only taking in the story instead of worrying about getting stomped on by mobs. It allowed me to go through a story that developed you into this ultimate badass, and then jump to a lower level place and actually FEEL like it. Now, if you are still sufficiently more powerful even with the sync, enough to solo heroics easy enough as an example (because I can never find anyone to do them with), then sure. This has me hideously worried, and its the exact reason I dislike Guild Wars 2. Having destroyed some of the galaxy’s worst threats, then run over by a group of lowly street thugs seems pretty awful. I guess we’ll see how it turns out. But currently, excitement rapidly turned to outrage.

    • Ancaglon

      It also looks as if most H4s had been retuned as H2s, which are eminently soloable when 5+ levels over the level, which seems to be the case with the one Musco did on the livestream.

    • Naq

      If you can blast through Oricon and Cz dailies now, with no worries, that is about on par with the level syncing.

  • Paulo Gomes

    What’s a “normal day at the office” for you guys with Endgame toons? For me, check what’s on GTN, check my mail, go over to the Fleet, see what Op is on GF, queue for GF ( Op, HM’s Tacts, you name it)… If I’m feeling like it maybe run a few Dailies… So for a lv 60 how much time do you guys spend on DK? Alderaan? Belsavis? ANY planet?

    So the level-sync is that much of a big deal? These days I run with a dps comp most of the time I need one, there’s no real need for anything else… I haven’t farmed a low level planet for nodes in AGES, and the only reason I do so is if someone of lower level (friends, guildies) needs something specific that I can craft… AND with the jawa scrap vendors I hardly have the actual need for physically going to a lower level planet… So, what’s the big deal here? It’s not like you are actually going to DK to do some Heroics with your Endgame lv 60 toon, is it? But now you can, and you will get rewards according to your level… I sincerely fail to see what the uproar is about…

    I’m more worried about Crit and Surge being fused into one actually, and NOBODY is commenting on that. That can lead to some serious balance problems with some AC’s… My Lethality Operative for instance, I run almost NO Crit and some Surge, how’s that gonna turn up?

    • Ancaglon

      Well, lately I’ve been completing my roster of advanced classes during 12x, but once that’s done, Level sync will mean that I will have to make sure I use lower-than-max level characters to do those, because they’ll be just as effective as my Ops-geared endgame characters, but will actually get some XP benefit from the grinding.

      I’m pretty sure they’re going to have to re-level the Seeker Droid areas, and bonus series areas, to be not much higher than the level sync cap for the world.

      • Stephen Powell

        “Level sync will mean that I will have to make sure I use lower-than-max level characters to do those, because they’ll be just as effective as my Ops-geared endgame characters, but will actually get some XP benefit from the grinding.”

        Umm, from what I was seeing, they won’t. They will have equal base stats, but a higher level toon will have better abilities than a lower level one, and you will still have those. Full stop. You will have them.

        I suspect gearing will also have an effect here as well, as that would fit with the theme they are showing, but that is speculation.

    • lora1973

      If single player games can make it work, then swtor can make it work. When I play dragon age, my crafted armor does not alow me to get rid of stats, just enhance certain ones. Character Balancing comes from ability adjusting.
      Obviously I am happy about the change. I understand if I am in the minority.

  • Lms

    What about crafting orange blank gear pieces? Are we still getting purple mods? The changes look good. But if gear don’t get more power. Why should I bother?I have 1.5 feet out the door already.Cause of the constant catering and nerfing.Sub expires in Feb.
    But back to the point so we can no longer craft Blank orange gear? And what about purple mods?

    • Galathir Darkstone

      Why do you think we can’t craft that stuff? All Musco said was “crafted gear starts at blue” and “all of your old learned schems will be in the archive section in case you want it for looks, even though the stats are worse than the new stuff.” I didn’t see any reason to believe they have removed orange shells nor Purple gear/mods from REing.

    • Ancaglon

      As far as I can tell, anything you can craft now you will still be able to craft in 2.0, but (a) they will be listed in a Legacy tab, and (b) the components will be different — they will use the green sub-components rather than raw materials.

      However, it sounds to me as if you’re looking for a reason to leave rather than a reason to stay. If you’re really unhappy in February, you might indeed want to take a break at that time, at least until the next bunch of chapters is released.

    • http://www.lmgtfy.com idnewton

      “Cause of the constant catering and nerfing.” I’m pretty sure you don’t understand the words you’re saying. Also, I don’t know why you’re making this assumption. They didn’t say anything about orange/purple stuff as far as I know. Just because they didn’t mention something doesn’t mean they’re removing it.

      Did they specifically mention that Bounty Hunter will still be in the game in 4.0? No? Well then by your logic they are removing the entire class! Everyone panic! ^_^

      Also, if you really “have 1.5 feet out the door” you wouldn’t have bought a 6mo sub (unless you’re stupid XD)

  • Lms

    Or now that i think of it, what about all the gear piece Like saber marshal’s. gear.Or Force Slayer Light saber. What’s the point now. Can we at least get chests back to cred payouts in flash points or instances. Since we are not in the outside world getting ripped off by stealth or bots? My creds have taken a big hit.
    Fix many of the issues,and I may stay. But continue to punish longtime subs. And I will walk away,and take any recommendations I had with me.
    Have always loved Star Wars. But no amount of turd polishing. Can save a turd from being such.

  • Luke

    I have a few questions on Crafting & crew Skills:

    Crew skills on new L60: New characters get all the
    previous companions and crew skill auto L500. You will get appropriate
    crew skills for your class (i.e. bounty hunter get armormech,
    scavenging, and underworld trading)
    My Question: So does that mean we are not able to change the crew skill at fleet for the new L60 toons?

    Crafting Changes
    Crafting cap is still at 500. There are no more tiers (i..e having to train every 75). You get everything from the beginning.
    There has been some changes to who craft what (a future blog post will post in this detail)
    My Question: The above applies to making a new L60 toons or current toons that we have lvl up? & if there are changes to who craft what, will they just take away & not provide us the option? Things like slicing for instance. I’m sure some will have it on more then 1 different class toon. So moving forward i will have to make more of that class just for slicing?

    • OutlawBandit

      You could always delete one of your L500 crew skills and start at L1 in any other skill that you’d like.

      • Luke

        Oh! So that option is still available? The way they said it it’s as if they will allocate who craft what from 4.0 here on. Didn’t managed to watch the video so hoping some that have watched it can share details that might have been missed in text. Cheers!

        • OutlawBandit

          So, you start out with a brand new lvl60 character, which is a max level character right now. It makes sense that max level characters right now have maxed out crew skills, so they’re giving you maxed out crew skills to start.
          Instead of giving you a choice, they’ve decided what makes sense for each character class. From that point on it’s your choice to do anything you want with the character.
          It’s not like you’re locked into whichever crew skills are given, it’s just that the only way to switch is to start over at L1.

          • Luke

            Thats great. Thanks

          • Ancaglon

            Indeed. And with the change to gathering resource nodes it won’t (any longer) be necessary to go back to the starter worlds to re-level your gathering skills, unless you also happen to need those lower level materials, e.g. to level a crafting skill alongside it.

            And, even there, it will be far simpler to level up the crafting because you now just make the sub-components (green mats + vendor bought only) to gain skill points — it looks like the days of crafting hundreds of non-stacking items only to shred them again are now gone.

  • Revan E Noyes

    Any chance they will increase the number of toons allowed in a guild

  • Rev

    Any chance they will increase the number of toons allowed in a guild

    • Ancaglon

      Hasn’t been mentioned, but since the real issue is the number of players online simultaneously (due to the sending of notifications on achievements, logon/logoff etc), it would make more sense to make the limitation to be based on accounts. This would help tie-in with how the guild bonuses are calculated too.

      Personally, I’d like the ability for my Alts on the opposite faction to be added to my friends list, just for ease of mailing stuff between them. Or, perhaps, look at your legacy character list as the first source for matches for mail recipients, followed by friends list, then guild?

  • Christoph Hoelzinger

    So Dulfy what happen if i want to fight a Worldboss alone like i always did to complete the Weekly ?…This is no more possible because of the Sync right ? So you always need a hunting group of 8 or more people….that is so stupid…you will wait forever…to finish some stuff….i dont think that Auto Sync is the Way to go…

    • Valenjinn

      Well, you were doing it in the bad way, so now Worldbosses will be a good way to teach newbies how to raid in the future. I think is an excellent move from BW to make outdated content playable again.

      • Ancaglon

        While I do agree, I’m going to try to get Grandfather and the 2-stacks Dreadtooth done before 4.0…. that’ll complete the full set for me.

      • Christoph Hoelzinger

        i dont think its a good way…for example the Nightmare Pilgrim…you need a good group to get this Worldboss down…what happen if you get Level Synct with Voss ? You normally do this boss when you reach 50 or above because its extremly dangerous if you are undergeared and underleveled…now you have the Sync and everyone is nearly Planet Level…will the Nightmare Pilgrim hit harder ?….i would think so…Always do a 16 person hunting party now…I think people without guild support are screwed…and….i would like to see what you will do if you are a Sith Jugger and you need to defeat the Sith Lord in his final Story Quest back on Korriban….hmm what level Sync….Level 6-8 ? And what is Barras ? Level 50 ? Hope Level Sync wont work here or will effect EVERYONE even NPCs….

        • Valenjinn

          As a developer I am, I think those changes are taken in account. So, two possibilities: All mobs in a planet will be of the max level of planet (e.g. Voss, all mobs max level 47, turrets, pilgrim and dread seeds enemies) or, level sync area dependant (you enter in the dread seed / pilgrim area, you’re of the level of the mobs that you’re facing). Both would work fine, but the 1st one is more consistent and easier to implement.

    • Paulo Gomes

      You were never meant to be able to solo those guys, so no, it’s not stupid.

    • Guest4142015

      Agree with that sentiment. I like auto-sync for games like single player RPGs and GW2 which has a different approach to “trinity” class archetypes. But for SWTOR, where your role is defined and restricted, I think this is a mistake. EA and Bioware should reverse themselves and make this a toggle ability.

    • Leonardo Prieto

      Let’s start to collect all WB achivements before It changes. And yes, I don’t like at all that change.

  • Urorruk

    My biggest concern, is when trying to complete some quests that have you revisit lower level planets to explore. While fighting much higher leveled mobs than are normal for the planet, and just being stomped into the dirt. Seeds of Rage and The Shroud questlines are what come to mind when thinking about this. I really don’t want to attempt these quests knowing I will be level synched to the highest level of the of the planet, and having no chance of completing it.

    • Chyron HR

      Yes, after KOTFE goes live it will become impossible to ever complete the Dreadseed/Macrobinoculars quests, as well as the Nar Shaddaa, Alderaan and Hoth bonus series. That sounds entirely plausible.

      • Ancaglon

        … unless they create some sort of post-reverse-bolster to um, undo the level sync in those areas, or, more simply, just do a pass levelling down all those higher level mobs down to the level sync cap, with a variation based on mob strength maybe — e.g. the Nar Shadda bonus series has mobs around level 32 at present, whereas the level sync for NS is likely to be around level 26. So you would have Champions on NS around level 28, and the bonus series mobs bumped down to around 26. This would also reduce the “oops, I walked into the bonus area and now I’m dead” problem that happens on worlds with such bonus series (most recently when I was levelling my Scoundrel on Belsavis a couple of weeks ago. Fortunately being level 45 in a level 50 area gave me enough time to realise my mistake and stealth out while Treek valiantly sacrificed herself.

        • Paulo Gomes

          Looool that happens a lot to me on Alderaan, for some reason (my stupidity???) I ALWAYS wonder into the Bonus Series area while leveling… And since you mentioned Treek, what’s gonna happen there? Is the most awesome comp in the game going to be just like the rest of them, since they all can do what Treek does basically? That would be a serious bummer…

          • Ancaglon

            I suspect they’ll reduce Treek’s power level somewhat, she’s only a little less powerful than the GSIbot that accompanies you in solo FPs.

            Having the other companions’ AE abilities adjusted to not break CCs would be perfect.

            • Paulo Gomes

              Yes, that would be awesome, no more telling other players in the group: ” your comp is breaking my CC…” Also, there are specific characteristics of companions that I would not like to loose, Treek being one (tanks and also does some healing in tank mode), HK (has the Assassinate thing which I LOVE), and Lokin (turning into a Rakghoul in dps mode)…

            • http://www.lmgtfy.com idnewton

              LOL, no, she is *not* “only a little less powerful than the GSIbot that accompanies you in solo FPs.”

              That thing guards you, tanks for you, and heals for 25k+ per heal.

              • Ancaglon

                Thanks for failing to understand hyperbole.

    • Valenjinn

      I think they will apply the level update in that mobs, so they will be in the max level the planet is.

  • Yallida

    Well it was 2 hours of nothing… we don’t know nothing new… the biggest concern is what happen with current set bonuses after 4.0 lunch? Will they change all mainstats into mastery and consolidate crit with surge or not?

    • Ancaglon

      Err. I’m pretty sure both those were answered with “yes” in the stream that I watched… ?

    • lora1973

      You mean besides data mined info? There was a whole bunch of new stuff. Just not about pvp for example.
      And yes mainstats is endurance and mastery, that was mentioned during the stream.

    • mace windy

      Lol you must be trolling.
      There is a shitton in new official information. The fact that humans are impatient by nature and want to have all information yesterday doesn’t change this. Datamined info is fun and all but by no means should you see it as the truth.

      I could name a few datamined information leaks that have proved to be (partially) wrong

    • http://www.lmgtfy.com idnewton

      “My biggest concern is everyone’s biggest concern, I am the only one who matters.”

      Are you kidding me? I haven’t seen a single person asking about current set bonuses. As for the following question, that was directly answered in the stream AND in the summary text.

      It’s like you’re trying to be stupid O.o

      PS: What are you planning on eating for your “after 4.0 lunch”?

  • guest

    does anyone know how raid loot will work now? now that lvl 50’s can queue with 65’s will lvl 50’s be able to gear up to set gear before 60 or will it be character specific loot?

    • Ancaglon

      Musco referred to a Blog Post, but nothing’s been published about that yet.

  • revan1337

    Yeees! Republic Containment Armor Set.. Im waiting for this for a long time ;=)

    • Ancaglon

      Indeed — I expect the vendor in the Imperial Fleet’s Cartel Bazaar will have the Imperial Containment Officer set, which I need because I only had a single decently-levelled character back in Jan 2012, my Shadow, so I only got the Republic set.

      (I did get all the Chevin stuff done though).

      I probably also actually have enough Gree, Rakghoul and Bounty event currency to buy a full set straight off.

      • revan1337

        Nice :D

  • Subhash Joshua Manjunath

    when you say all 8 class stories? Does it mean all the way till SoR? or only till the level 50 ones?

    • Ancaglon

      The end of Chapter 3 for all 8 stories is the criterion.

      • Jazzy

        Source? How do you know this? Heard another guy say all the way up to Ziost. So just would like to be sure.

        • Harold

          SoR and Ziost is a general story for every class. In the livestream he clearly referred to the heroic abilities you get for completing each chapter so it is pretty much sure that you only need to complete Chapter 3.

          • Ancaglon

            Musco showed his Achievement tab, and showed that he had JUST Chapter 3 set for each class in order to toggle that indicator. I don’t have the timestamp on the video but you should be able to see it easily enough if you care to look.

            (The tooltip in the screenshot also specifies “Class-specific stories” — from Ilum onward, the story is not class specific, although it might have some slightly different conversation options depending on class).

  • Jay Phillips

    If they are going to allow 40-50 characters per server for subs then they need to up guild limit cap.. Especially if they want to keep conquest a thing..

    • Saito

      ..

      • Bud Leis

        I read Jay’s comment, then saw this GIF and nearly died

  • Emprah

    RIP Marr. Welcome epic level grade down annoyance on old planets.

  • Guest4142015

    Do these inaccessible “story” quests include Ilum and Oricon? Dread Masters arc? I don’t like the idea of being locked out of this content. Don’t understand what technical reason they’d have for doing this.

    • Paulo Gomes

      I see 2 reasons for that. One is obviously the time jump, if you are 5 years or whatever into the future makes no sense in going back. The second is making a fresh lv 60 AND going back to do all the previous content may seem like an unfair advantage… Not saying I personally agree with this, but it’s the only thing that makes sense. But you can always rolla lv 1 and do it ALL, so no biggie there…

      • Guest4142015

        Time jumps are often ignored now. If they are going to introduce level sync, then a lvl 60 would not have an undue advantage in redoing the previous content.

        Perhaps the only reasonable explanation I have at the moment is the issue with companions. I wonder if trying to reshuffle companions between old and new companions proved too much work for too little reward, that Bioware decided to just lock the content at the point you switched to the new companion schema.

        Anyway it’d be nice to get an answer from Bioware directly regarding the story lockouts.

    • p4v7

      What’s your problem actually? If you care about Oricon and Ilum then do them first. You are not forced to start KotFE immediately. Do every story you want and then accept the mission to begin KotFE.

  • Rebel Scum

    And the companion side stories.

    • Guest4142015

      Obviously, the changes leave no choice in the matter. But the decision is arbitrary. Right now you can jump from SoR to RotHC without issue. The SoR storyline just assumes you finished RotHC and makes references to those facts in dialogue. So again I ask, what possible technical reason would KotFE have for locking you out of this content? Is the dialogue and are chapters going to be based on decisions previously made? If not, then I’d like to have the ability to choose what to do and when to do it.

      • pacem

        I would expect it will be something like ziost…once you start the second phase you trigger a galaxy changing event. SoR and Makeb were smaller localized events. That is why story line will lock. Hopefully it will give them a way to make decisions matter a little bit more than previously.

        • Guest4142015

          Ziost is an interesting comparison. The reason there was very specific to the destruction of the planet. If the same applied to KotFE, then I would expect radical changes to the planets as we knew them before KotFE. But I doubt that is the case.

          • Ancaglon

            The point is, they can’t write new content based on what you didn’t do. This hasn’t been properly dealt with on various content — for example, turning up to release the Jedi Prisoner in Maelstrom Prison with Scourge in tow, and the reaction that SHOULD happen just doesn’t — because when you first do that Flashpoint, your class story won’t have allowed you to get that companion, and so the original writing doesn’t consider the possibility.

            By stating that the older content is no longer accessible, they can set certain flags, probably based on your general Light/Dark side inclination or on the Rep/Imp affiliation, and use those without having to deal with such jarring inconsistencies.

            If “Story is King”, then this is a “Choice that Matters” (by Bioware).

      • Rebel Scum

        I’m just going to be blunt instead of going around in circles. This is happening whether you like it or not. You can either do all the old content before doing KOTFE or skip it and go straight to the new stuff–the choice is yours.

        BioWare is most likely doing it based on the game’s story timeline and whether or not you decide to make a fresh 60 or a level 1.

        Don’t like it then don’t play SWTOR anymore. It’s not hard to to do everything before diving into the new content. If you’re too stubborn to follow what BioWare has set in order of the timeline they are trying to tie together, then I suggest you make a decision on just how much you want to do the old story content compared to how much you want to do the new content.

        This isn’t rocket science. Either you do all the old content first or you don’t and skip it all for the new content.

        • Guest4142015

          Thanks for your honesty. You tone obviously thinks I’m a whiner. I won’t show you the same discourtesy.

          In terms of game storyline, I have already given the RotHC and SoR stories as an example that they don’t need to lock out content. If its meant to be a continuation of the main story, then it would be more logical to force people to finish their class storylines before accessing KotFE, which they do not make lvl 60’s do.

          This “don’t play” argument is irrelevant to the discussion and is a hackneyed response. I wouldn’t make it an issue if I didn’t want to play the game. You think I’m stubborn for wishing to, metaphorically speaking, have my cake and eat it too. I ask, what good is cake if you can’t have a slice?

          As for your final suggestion that I make a decision. Well you’re right. Even before you patronized me, I had already decided not to play KotFE until I finished these locked out stories because those are the current restrictions. I’d politely remind you just because a person criticizes or disagrees with a change, doesn’t mean they won’t comply with it.

  • Swelke

    Dude, I can’t believe they finally put a grid in the interface editor. Maniacs like me are grateful for it.

  • Paulo Gomes

    Now on to real business: how the hell is Crit being merged with Surge? Some AC’s will be a bit unbalanced, since some ( Lethality Operative and Annihilation Marauder for instance) use a fair amount of Surge but little Crit… So what gives? Any information on that?

    • Robert Davis

      New day, new experimentation when it comes to figuring out what a true ‘min/maxed’ number build is.

      Remember, that info has never been provided by bioware itself. It was figured out by certain members of the community. (Most of which have left)… People will just need to step up and ‘do the math’ again.

    • SupRun

      Could be worse. They could have tried to merge absorb and defense. :/

  • Darth Ji’inx

    Datamined item info from 4.0 suggests that none of the new companions can equip armor to change their outfits. We saw this with Marr in the video. He only had a weapon, while his armor was part of his character model. TORCommunity’s item database only has weapons for Marr, Lana, Nico, Koth etc. Guess we can’t dress up Lana in her SOR gear from the Shadow Packs :(

    • Naq

      For Marr, its to stop people like me from putting him in pink trooper armor and that kitty cat legacy helmet that drops on Oricon. I’m already trying to decide which weapon will be funniest to give him

      • Darth Ji’inx

        What it means is no peeking at Marr’s face :(

        Kitty cat!? You take that back! *Darth Ji’inx stares angrily while wearing his full Hallowed Gothic attire (w/proper black & red dyes to match the Harbinger & Acolyte of Fear ;) )*

        • Naq

          *pets the kitty* “D’awwww”

          • Darth Ji’inx

            *electrocutes Naq*

            • Robert Davis

              As far as Marr goes, It’s because he’s a temporary guest companion as much as anything.
              They’ve apparently done the same for the droid companions as well.
              You may be correct that it’ll be that way with everyone.. but until we see some reputable hard evidence of such.. I won’t be sucked in by speculation.

              • Darth Ji’inx

                Droids & monster-like companions (Khem, Broonmark etc.).
                It is speculation at this point, but I still think it’s good to be aware of this possibility.

              • Robert Davis

                That is a reasonable assumption until proven otherwise.

            • Naq

              “Oooooooooh yeaahhhhhh!”

        • Harold

          His character information says that he needs his armor because his body suffered much during his battles and his face looking so horrible that it could have been the reason for a Moff’s suicide. There was never a possibility for him to reveal anything.

          • Darth Ji’inx

            If the Moff saw his face like the rumor says, then he would have had to take off his mask. Besides, removing/changing a companion’s armor is not tied to the game’s lore.

        • Skinnyadzy

          Wish we could at least put a full black dye on him! :(

        • Saito

          I’ve actually seen Darth Marr’s face lol. I’ve made a 100% nude mod for SWTOR and hide all clothes for every single character in game.
          If you dont believe me you may look for SWTOR on Rule 34 where I uploaded my screenshots.
          As for Marr… I don’t want to screw you the truth about him xD You’ll see what I’m talking about soon…

          • Darth Ji’inx

            I have a bad feeling about looking that up…

            Not going to.

            • Saito

              xP I’m being serious about it. Yet if your bad feeling is about looking for that to find all ladies on SWTOR running around fully naked with Ken crotched guys behind them; Then yeah trust your feelings buddy.

              And about what you posted first about the datamined information I think its already been confirmed that you can actually change the clothes for companions there are just some exceptions for aliens that doesn’t fit on the game models for clothing and other major characters like Darth Marr who you can’t have a peek at his “sexy boy” face just yet. xD Here’s what the devs wrote:

              __________________________________________________

              Companions

              Like we covered in the PAX Prime Livestream, Companions have gotten a significant overhaul. You can watch the stream here, but here are a few quick highlights:

              Companions are now summoned from the Companions and Contacts/Alliance window.

              Companions now all have 3 roles you can choose from on the fly, DPS/Healer/Tank, and different ability sets based on that role.

              Companions that use the same weapon type will share the same ability sets (so every companion that uses Blaster Pistols will have the same ability sets).

              Companions no longer generate any stats from gear, their stats are purely based on the level of the companion, so you can dress them up however you want. Accordingly, equipment slots that didn’t have any effect on visibility have been removed from companions. Companions will still need a weapon in order to activate their abilities, but the stats of the weapon won’t matter.

              In Fallen Empire player, Companions will continue to be a huge part of your personal story. All of these gameplay changes are to enhance their functionality.

              ___________________________________

              Source: http://www.swtor.com/info/news/blog/20151002

              • Darth Ji’inx

                I’m talking about new companions not having armor equip slots, not old ones.

  • Brianac

    Where are the performance improvements?

    • Naq

      Didn’t we just get those? I haven’t had a massive system crippling memory leak since the last patch, loading times are down a bit, my fps was always pretty good unless I was memory leaking like madness, so that is still good. I think this is the best the game has ever run for me.

      • Brianac

        I mean we did get some like last week or something, but he said something about performance improvements at the beginning of the stream making me think there were more improvements coming.

  • Leonardo Prieto

    So many changes, cool ones and others not that cool.
    I love that thing of the ‘Temporary Ability Bars’, and also that they put ‘events rewards vendor’ and ‘heroics missions’ all toghether. Cool thing about the ‘group finder’. Not sure about those new companions. Don’t like the thing of ‘level sync’. And I don’t understand the thing about the datacrons. For example, I have ‘Datacron master’ (including Fleet datacron), that will be removed or what?

  • Future-Bound-Entertainment

    That level sync nonsense is completely awful, it has no good or practical application other than making the game difficult despite your level.

    The entire… TEH ENTIRE point of leveling up in an RPG is to get stronger, they are literally removing the ability to get stronger as you level up… that is bullcrap. One of the besst parts of leveling up is the ability to go back to older planets adn to walk around like you own the place…

    Also… i predict this glitching, and causing people to fight enemies on earlier planets like Darth Baras at like… level 8.

    • Leonardo Prieto

      Yeah. I think is the only change that I don’t like (so far)

      • advocatus diaboli

        Yep. Lots of good, some great changes. But this horrible one more than offsets it.

    • Rob Corrina

      honestly, I think it will just be within the confines of a heroic mission. I know he said whenever you are on a planet, but I am pretty sure he was wrong. this team does not really inspire confidence. with their supposed obsession with information control why he would suddenly ‘take a guess’ at something he doesn’t know seems really odd.

      • Future-Bound-Entertainment

        Your apologizing for them doing something stupid, on the grounds of “maybe we are just misunderstanding”

        dont apologize for idiocy.

    • p4v7

      “One of the besst parts of leveling up is the ability to go back to older planets adn to walk around like you own the place”
      Apart from wasting time on walking around just to jerk off to your high level, if what you said was true, we would have seen many 60s on older planets. But we don’t. Hmmm, it seems that the majority of high levels don’t give a crap about walking around among outleveled quests.

      You are still stronger with each level. You still unlock skills and passives as you level up. The only difference is that when you go back to older planets you are not the galaxy god killing Jedi Masters on Alderaan with a single hit while getting more trouble with frogs on Makeb.

      • Richard Shiflett

        Being a higher level means you can go Datacron hunting without pulling everything that’s 5 feet or away from you.

    • Bryan

      This is a great change. Now I can go back and play with friends just starting out at the game and not have to create a new toon. This should also significantly help with ganking. Honestly this is one of my favorite changes and people who don’t like it are most likely people who do nothing but gank/troll/grief the game anyway.

      • Richard Shiflett

        Speaking of Korriban…

        I can see the Level Sync bugging out making you level 10 when you go to fight a certain level 50 Darth.

    • NotSoDarkLord

      Completely agree. What’s the point of becoming a Dark Council member when you have a hard time killing couple of enemies on Korriban. Does not make sense at all though.

      *Little exaggerated but you get the point*

    • Ancaglon

      Possible bugs aside, I think this makes a lot of sense, and it basically avoids the situation where you can mow down thousands of enemy Jedi/Sith on DK/Coruscant but easily get killed by a pirate sniper or an exoboar pup on a backwater world (Ravagers, Rishi).

  • Daklar


    Marksmanship guide 3.0

  • SupRun

    At the height of 2.0, there were 5 gear tiers. Black Market/Arkanian (162-Basic Commendations, Story Mode Scum And Villany/Terror From Beyond/Dread Fortress/Dread Palace), Verpine/Underworld (168-Elite Commendations, Hard Mode Scum And Villany/Terror From Beyond), Kell Dragon/Shadowed (174-Nightmare Mode Scum And Villany/Terror From Beyond), Dread Forged (180-Ultimate Commendations, Hard Mode Dread Fortress/Dread Palace), Dread Master (186-Nightmare Mode Dread Fortress/Dread Palace). In the current height of 3.0 we have only 3 gear tiers: Yavin (186-Basic Commendations), Massassi/Resurrected (192-Elite Commendations/Story Mode Ravagers/Temple of Sacrifice), Deceiver/Revanite (198-Ultimate Commendations/Hard Mode Ravagers/Temple of Sacrifice). [I’m not counting 204s because it’s not technically gear that you can acquire as a full armor set.] So why have we not been given information about the new gear? If they are scaling all the ops to 65, how are they doing the gear drops?

    TL; DR-What’s happening with gear drops in light of scaling of ops up to 65?

    • Darth Ji’inx

      I found gearing tiers in TORCommunity’s item database:

      PvE

      Defiant (blue): 208

      Outlander (purple): 208

      Defiant (purple): 216

      Exarch (purple): 220

      Ultimate Exarch (purple): 224

      PvP

      Cynosure (purple): 204

      Exemplar (purple): 208

      • SupRun

        I see. Does it make any reference to set bonuses or how it can be obtained?

        • Darth Ji’inx

          Nope. To see for yourself, go to TORCommunity’s website. Go to Search All Databases>Items>Adaptive Armor.
          For Categories:
          Level Range: 61-65
          Added with Patch 4.0
          (Select Chest (or some other equip slot) to cut down on results)

          • SupRun

            Seems like the MK-1 pieces all have the set bonuses. Set bonuses remain unchanged, so we can keep our 192/198 armorings, assuming the aim/willpower/strength/cunning stats are all changed to mastery.
            However, no results come up when I tried to search mainhand/offhand both melee and ranged. I guess we will have to see what happens.

  • sentientomega

    That heroic mission screeny said “This mission may require a small group”, I really hope I don’t HAVE to group up for them or any other H2+, grouping up for WBs, FPs, and Ops is fine.

    • p4v7

      lol, good catch. All that hateful comments from people that cried about being too weak to solo heroics might be trashed in a bin. I think this strongly suggests that not only Dromund Kaas heroics are still soloable but the later ones are as well.

      • sentientomega

        I would’ve been totally at east if he tested the Oricon and Section X heroics, as it is i still don’t know if I can solo them, especially the Oricon H2+, bazillions of hard stuns and high-damage mechanics that can worry the best-equipped 60s. If the Section X heroic is now an H2+, then it has likely had the mechanic changed in some way.

    • Daemonshade

      Completing a Heroic 2 won’t be too difficult. It’s always possible to solo, and against particularly difficult mobs you can just use your Heroic Ability cooldown to ensure you beat it, even if you’re in an awkward spec.

    • Ancaglon

      I just realised another interesting possibility: since the Heroic Mission Console (or the missions themselves) provide transport straight from Fleet to the mission area, we can now instantly travel to any world that has Heroic missions, then use Quick Travel to go anywhere else on that world.

      This probably means most of my characters will never again have to go through an Orbital Station or a Spaceport…

  • Daemonshade

    I have a question about the Legendary Legacy status. Currently I’m leveling 4 Republic characters basically just for finishing all 8 Heroic abilities for my Imperial characters to use, but it isn’t fully explained to me about what level these characters need to be for the title.

    – Legendary status, you get a cool icon ingame next to your name

    – You have to finish all 8 class stories, level doesn’t matter.

    Do they HAVE to be 60 (this unlocks the Galactic Legend title) or do they just need to finish Act 3? I don’t mind finishing up to Act 3 with them because it’s all content which I’ve never seen before, but honestly doing Rishi onwards to Yavin will kill me, seeing this story for literally the 12th time.

  • Spárky

    Heroic Moment abilities also have been rebalanced to make them better.<–love that line thats is smooth way to say we are going to nerf the abilities

  • sentientomega

    There’s been a suggestion that when 4.0 hits, a whole bunch of people will become terrorists to try to force BW to make our down-synced characters EXACTLY like they were when they were at that level levelling up. They want it so that EVERYONE, no matter what their level, when synced to say, 18, will lose every active/passive/utility they ever gained at 19 and above. And all in the name of a so-called level playing field that will encourage no-one to actually level, if that happens we might as well all just be level 1, with just the default attack.

    The sync system that BW:A is planning to implement is immersive, the above madness will annihilate the immersion. Level 65 Darths should be Darths at 18 if they went through everything to become that, not the apprentices they used to be when they hit 18 from 17.

    • KyleM

      Just an FYI you keep all active/passive/utility points you spent. Only your damage and health is scaled. It is explained in great detail on the current dev blogs. Please read them, maybe then you can stop spouting mindless dribble.

    • Richard Shiflett

      I hate the Level Syncing. Hate it.

      Why must it be Mandatory?!

  • Jürgen Erhard

    Wow, I already hate the companion changes. “We’re aware that companions will look totally ****, but we might put the stuff THAT WE NOW HAVE back in.”

    Dumbing down claims another victim.

    Oh, sorry, simplifying so more people can get bored by it. No, they won’t get more players, you’ll only lose old ones.

  • Rammlog

    Dancing with Marr. A dream come true. :D

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