A guide to the main quest in the Fallen Empire expansion and influence gain from conversations. This post contains story spoilers. This a work in progress.[toc]
General Info
How to Start
You will find the mission terminal on your ship. It is marked with a purple icon. You will be asked if you are sure about starting the story when you interact with it.
Cutscene Length
Total cutscene length is around 200 minutes or 3.3 hrs. Actual playtime is roughly twice of that so you can finish the story in about 6-7 hrs watching cutscenes or 3 hrs if you spacebar through everything.
- Chapter 1: 23 minutes
- Chapter 2 : 11 minutes
- Chapter 3: 15 minutes
- Chapter 4: 27 minutes
- Chapter 5: 19 minutes
- Chapter 6: 22.5 minutes
- Chapter 7: 18.5 minutes
- Chapter 8: 30 minutes
- Chapter 9: 26 minutes
Choices and Influence Gain
Some dialogues have choices that will give you influence gain with certain characters that are part of the conversation. They will either approval or disapprove of your choices and you gain amounts of influence with them accordingly (you won’t lose influence, just gain less or no influence on disapproval choices). Who approves or disapproves each conversation choice is recorded below.
Chapter 1: The Hunt
Chapter 2: A Dream of Empire
Spoiler Inside |
SelectShow> |
Cutscenes
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Me2m99qKBA&w=448&h=252&hd=1]
Reward
- 20,302 credits
- 721215 XP (with 30% Class Story XP boost)
- 10 Common Data Crystal
- Choice of two rating 190 green offhands
|
 |
- In the opening cinematic, you will get a convo with Valkorion with some choices that can gain his approval or disapproval. It doesn’t seem to matter here as you do not gain or lose influence with him.
Trigger: Valkorion tells you that you have earned his respect |
|
- You’ve changed
- Too bad—I’m not listening
- Are you flirting with me? – Valkorion disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Valkorion talks about your companions |
|
- They still have a cause/One is my lover
- [Call out to your allies]
- I’d replace some if I could – Valkorion approves
|
 |
Trigger: Old foes have come to take your life |
|
- Nightmares can’t hurt me
- They’ll fail
- Come on, then! – Valkorion approves
|
 |
- Reach Your Companions
- Defeat Visions from Your Past
- Reach Your Companions
Trigger: Valkorion tells you are superior to the fools in charge |
|
Empire Dialogue
- First choice (class dependent)
- I could make the Empire great – Valkorion disapproves
- Then why are we here?
|
 |
Republic Dialogue
- This isn’t a dictatorship – Valkorion disapproves
- Second choice (class dependent)
- I should be in charge
|
 |
Trigger: This Empire/Republic is not worth saving |
|
Empire Dialogue
- You mean Zakuul
- We’re not allies/I’m listening – Valkorion is amused
- The Empire is worth saving – Valkorion disapproves
|
 |
Republic Dialogue
- You mean Zakuul?
- There is no “we” – Valkorion is amused
- The Republic is worth saving – Valkorion disapproves
|
 |
- Reach the Central Taxi Pad
- Too Little Too Late (Bonus): Revive Fallen Citizens 0/10. 68,035 XP
- Use the Taxi to Travel to the Citadel
- Reach the Citadel
- Defeat Darth Marr (Inquisitor)/Darth Jadus (Agent)/General Garza (Trooper)
Trigger: Darth Marr Inquisitor) |
|
- He deserved to live – Valkorion disapproves
- It’s true, I did – Valkorion approves
- You’re enjoying all this
|
 |
Trigger: Darth Jadus (Agent) |
|
- Spare me your false flattery – Valkirion disapproves
- He never was – Valkirion approves
- You’re enjoying all this.
|
 |
Trigger: General Garza (Trooper) |
|
- You didn’t know her – Valkorion disapproves
- She deserved to die – Valkirion approves
- Am I seeing the future?
|
 |
- Defeat the Monolith
- Speak with Valkorion
|
Chapter 3: Outlander
Spoiler Inside |
SelectShow> |
Cutscenes
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXsABQ-uIW4&w=448&h=252&hd=1]
Reward
- 20,302 credits
- 721215 XP (with 30% Class Story XP boost)
- Variable amount of LS/DS pts
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Lana Beniko
- 10 Common Data Crystal
- Choice of two rating 190 green implants
|
 |
- Escape to the Security Checkpoint
- Bypass the Security Door
- Escape to the Extraction Lift
Trigger: Koth making a quick detour through the tower |
|
- Be careful
- This seems hastily planned.
- You better be, or else/Damn right you will – Koth disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Koth says back with you shortly |
|
- How do you know Koth?
- Is that your boyfriend, Lana? – Lana is not amused
- I don’t know about him.. – Lana disapproves
|
 |
- Escape to the Skybridge
- Defeat the Alert Response Team
- Cross the Skybridge
- Exit the Droid Factory Lobby
- Escape the Skytrooper Factory
- Assess the Reactor’s Status
Trigger: Save the reactor or leave it |
|
- I’m leaving with a clear mind/I’d rather save lives – Koth remembers your Heroism, Lana disapproves, +150 LS points
- It will make good cover/We’re staying on mission – Koth remembers your indifference, Lana approves, +150 DS points
|
 |
- If you decide to save the reactor
- Gain Access to the Reactor
- Use the Reactor Access Console
- Disable the West Conduit Tower
- Disable the East Conduit Tower
- Disable the Master Power Junction
Trigger: Lana talks about your stubbornness |
|
- It had to be done.
- [Flirt] You were worried – Lana is not amused
- Deal with it.
|
 |
- Exit the Factory Reactor Catwalks
- Use the Emergency lift
- Destroy the Prototype Skytroopers
- Use the Service Lift
- Reach the Extraction Point
- Bypass the Fence Door
- Escape to the Extraction Point
- Clear the Extraction Point
Trigger: Talking to Novo |
|
- First Choice (class dependent) – Lana approves
- Second Choice (class dependent) – Lana disapproves
- No (attack them) – Lana approves
|
 |
- Defeat Tanek, Defeat Novo
Trigger: Talking to Novo |
|
- Let him go – Lana disapproves, 100 LS points
- Go ahead, Lana. Kill him – Lana approves, 100 DS points
|
 |
|
Chapter 4: The Gravestone
Spoiler Inside |
SelectShow> |
Cutscenes
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L6LHupuJAI&w=448&h=252&hd=1]
Reward
- 23,865 credits
- 771, 601 (with 30% Class Story XP boost)
- Variable amount of LS/DS pts
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Lana Beniko
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Koth Vortena
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with HK-55
- 10 Common Data Crystal
- Choice of two rating 190 green ears
|
 |
Trigger: Just like Arron Prime |
|
- I need to thank you all. – Lana/Koth approves
- You two have some history, huh? – Koth is unusually interested
- Set a trap instead – Koth approves
|
 |
- Investigate the Technological Object
- Bonus: Exterminating Wildlife – Defeat Swamp Beasts: 0/25 (16,687 credits, 70,109 XP)
- Defeat the Swamp Rancor
Trigger: Talking to HK after defeating Swamp Rancor |
|
- Don’t put me above them – HK approves
- Not the easiest job
- I outrank everyone else? Good
|
 |
Picking the I outrank everyone else? Good option above |
|
- Agreed – don’t change anything.
- [Alter HK to obey you at any cost] – HK disapproves
|
 |
- Investigate the Technological Object
- Speak to HK-55
Trigger: Lana talking about destiny |
|
- You sound concerned…
- Philosophy can wait/Our Power brought us here – Koth approves, Lana disapproves
- I don’t believe in destiny
|
 |
- Clear out the Beasts: 0/6
- Defeat the Ancient Iknayid Guardian
- Use the Airlock
Trigger: Koth talking about the Eternal Fleet |
|
- Why didn’t Valkorion uses the Fleet? – Lana approves
- So Arcann is our target.
- Can’t say I like those odds – Koth disapproves
|
 |
- Sidequest: The Broken Speeder located at (4303, –384) in Eastern Swamp
- Reward: 11,125 credits, 77,996 XP, Boosted Classic Speeder Bike (Brown)

- (Help Lana find supplies) Take Readings for Groundwater: 0/3
- Search an Alternate Site for Groundwater
- Bonus: Defeat Swamp Beasts in the Southern Grove: 0/10 (16, 687 credits, 63,812 XP)
- Search an Alternate Site for Groundwater
Trigger: Lana talking about Empire/Republic |
|
- He could’ve destroyed both.
- Where does the tribute go? – Lana approves
- Class specific response – Lana disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Lana talking about a power in you |
|
- The Emperor is in my mind – Lana appreciates your honesty
- [Lie] I havn’t changed – Lana stil suspects something
|
 |
Trigger: Hk-55 advise caution in your return trip |
|
- Thank you – HK appreciates
- Get back to it – HK will remember your decision
|
 |
Trigger: HK finding some Zakuulan Exiles (if you are with Lana) |
|
- Come with us – Lana disapproves
- You’re on your own – Lana approves
|
 |
- (Help Koth find supplies): Collect Scattered Starship parts: 0/4
- Investigate Detected Debris Readings
Trigger: Koth talking about Lana |
|
- She’s right – Koth disapproves
- I’m on your side in this – Koth approves
- I really don’t care – Koth will remember your indifference
|
 |
Trigger: Koth talking about massacring civilians |
|
- You did the right thing – Koth approves
- Arcann doesn’t have any rules – Koth approves
- I’ll be watching you – Koth will remember that
|
 |
Trigger: Koth talking about saving Zakuul from Arcann |
|
- I am/Of Course – Koth will remember that
- [Flirt] You’re a good man – Koth will remember that
- Victory is worth any cost/Don’t get your hopes up – Koth will remember that
|
 |
Trigger: Hk-55 advise caution on your return trip |
|
- Thank you – HK appreciates it
- Get back to it – HK will remember that
|
 |
Trigger: HK finding some Zakuulan Exiles (if you are with Koth) |
|
- Come with us – Koth will remember your kindness, +50 LS points
- You’re on your own – Koth will remember your cruelty, +50 DS points
|
 |
Trigger: Picking You’re on your own option above |
|
- No, we’re done here
- [Order HK to kill the exiles] – HK 55 disapproves and remembers your cruelty, +100 DS points
|
 |
- Return to the Gravestone
- Speak to HK-55
- Investigate the Strange Sounds
- Investigate the Ancient Monolith
|
Chapter 5: From the Grave
Spoiler Inside |
SelectShow> |
Cutscenes
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J00LJo3oQw&w=448&h=252&hd=1]
Rewards
- 22,402 credits
- 749,106 XP
- Variable amount of LS/DS pts
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Lana Beniko
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Koth Vortena
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with HK-55
- 10 Common Data Crystal
- Choice of rating 190 green implants
|
|
- Initial cinematic with Valkorion
Trigger: Valkorion talking about the Gravestone |
|
- It’s really you.
- Is it part of your plan?
- Details. Now
|
 |
Trigger: If you picked It’s really you or Is it part of your plan? from above |
|
- I’d like to hear more.
- I don’t fear them.
- I didn’t sign up for this
|
 |
Trigger: If you picked Details. Now from above |
|
- I’m listening
- You have a plan, don’t you?
- I don’t trust you – Valkorion is slightly amused
|
 |
- Reach the Bridge
- Use the Locked Door
- Fight to the Gravestone’s Entrance
- Defeat the Emptronic Battle Droid
- Speak to Lana
- Defeat Incoming Waves of Skytroopers
- Speak to Lana
- Defeat Captain Draynon Atrus
- Draynon will call on waves of Knights of Zakuul for help, including a Zakuul Walker. Luckily Senya will heal you if you do get low on HP.
- Speak to Lana
Trigger: Valkorion give you the option to use his power |
|
- No way [Refuse Power] – Valkorion disapproves, +100 LS pts
- Go ahead [Use Valkorion’s Power] – Valkorion approves, +100 DS pts
|
 |
Trigger: Koth praises the Gravestone |
|
- Impressive! – Koth approves
- What’s our destination?
- This is my ship – Koth disapproves
|
 |
- Operate the Gravestone’s Cannon
Trigger: Koth talking about making it to Asylum |
|
- What’s there?
- We’re going to an asylum? – Koth is slightly amused, Lana is not amused
- We need a better mechanic – Koth disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Koth and Senya arguing |
|
- Let’s get along – Koth/Senya disapproves, Lana approves
- Koth, Senya – stop whining – Koth/Senya disapproves
- [Let them continue]
|
 |
- (Bonus): Gaining Access: Gather Useful Tools: 0/4 (22,402 credits, 71,533 XP)
- You can find them in the marked area highlighted from the rest

Trigger: Koth talking about Senya |
|
- I’ll take her assistance – Koth disapproves
- What did she do to you?
- I don’t trust her – Koth approves
|
 |
Trigger: Koth reminds you who helped you and Lana |
|
- I am grateful you rescued me – Koth appreciates that
- [Flirt] You did well – Koth seems interested
- I don’t owe you anything – Koth disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: If you picked the Flirt option from above |
|
- You’re more my type – Koth will remember that
- Whatever happens, happens – Koth disapproves
- [Lie] I’m not into Lana – Koth will remember that
|
 |
Trigger: If you do not use Valkorion’s power, Lana is wounded.. |
|
- Still in pain? – Lana disapproves
- Is the dummy a stand in? – Lana is not amused
- It’s not so bad. Tough it out – Lana approves
|
 |
Trigger: If you used Valkorion’s power and told Lana previously |
|
- I know – Lana approves
- You were in danger
- Don’t underestimate me – Lana disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: If you used Valkorion’s power and never told Lana |
|
- [Lie] No idea
- [Lie] Maybe Senya? – Lana seems intrigued
- [Lie] Maybe the Gravestone
|
 |
Trigger: Lana talking about how she and Senya met |
|
- We all need to get along
- We need the old paradigm backw
- [Flirt] – Lana approves. If you picked this option and flirted with Koth previously, Koth will comment on it
|
 |
Trigger: HK asking if the meatbag bickering has stopped |
|
- Listening in?
- Yes—finally – HK is greatly amused
- Mind your place – HK disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Any orders, master? |
|
- Do as you will – HK appreciates that
- Lend Koth a hand – Koth approves
- Look in on Lana – Lana approves
|
 |
- Investigate the Dark Sanctuary
Trigger: Senya asks What about you? |
|
- I’m trying to save the galaxy – Senya approves
- It’s my destiny – Senya disapproves
- I want revenge – Senya approves
|
 |
|
Chapter 6: Asylum
Spoiler Inside |
SelectShow> |
Cutscenes
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3cOMVtQfy4&w=448&h=252&hd=1]
Rewards
- 23,130 credits
- 757913 XP
- Variable amount of LS/DS pts
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Lana Beniko
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Koth Vortena
- Variable amounts of Influence with Senya Tirall
- 10 Common Data Crystal
- Choice of rating 190 bracers and belt
|
 |
- In the opening cutscene, there are some conversation choices that can affect influence.
Trigger: Koth and Senya arguing and Koth says Figures.. |
|
- Everyone needs to loosen up – Lana approves
- Answer the question, Senya – Koth approves
- Leave her alone, Koth – Koth disapproves, Senya approves
|
 |
Trigger: Koth introducing his crew |
|
- You let them pick a fight _ Koth is amused
- I shouldn’t be surprised – Koth is amused
- They were about to be toast – Koth is not amused
|
 |
Trigger: You saved Ralo and abandoned ship in Chapter 1 |
|
- You’re a long way from home
- Good to see you’re alive
- This isn’t what I expected
|
 |
Trigger: You saved Ralo but rammed the ship in Chapter 1 |
|
- I’ll learn from my mistakes
- It was a tough call
- Quit whining
|
 |
Trigger: Koth says his best engineer havn’t returned |
|
- I’ll find her – Koth appreciates that
- You want Lana to go look – Koth is concerned
- This isn’t my problem – Koth is concerned
|
 |
- Go to the Free Zone
- Find Tora
- Bonus: Peace in the Free Zone: Defeat Free Zone Underbosses 0/4 (72,372 XP). These are the strong named mobs you will find around the Free Zone. Triggered when you kill any of the underbosses
- Defeat Oggo
- Find Tora
Trigger: HK talking about break Tanno Vik’s arms |
|
- We pay, Tora leaves. Period – 100 LS ponts, Tora approves
- Settle this peacefully, folks – 100 LS points, Tora disapproves
- No deal [Kill Tanno Vik] – 100 DS points
|
 |
Trigger: Heskal talking about Fate and Force |
|
- Lets’ work together/Sounds good to me – Heskal approves
- Do you? Really?/ I don’t believe in fate – Heskal disapproves
- The Force is overrated/Focus on my power
|
 |
Trigger: Heskal want to test you |
|
- So be it – Senya approves
- I’ve been challenge before
- Are you threatening me?
|
 |
- Defeat Maral
- Defeat Tersu
- Enter the Next Training Chamber
- If you kill Tanno Vik, Heskal will comment on this.
Trigger: Heskal asks if you feel anything for those who suffered |
|
- Of course I do – Senya approves
- Arcann will face justice – Senya disapproves
- I want revenge, not regrets – Senya disapproves
|
 |
- Defeat Vanat
- Defeat Berusal
- Enter the Meditation Chamber
Trigger: Heskal asks what you will do about Arcann |
|
- There’s been enough death – Senya approves, Heskal disapproves
- Senya? – Valkorion seems intrigued
- I’ll destroy him – Senya disapproves, Heskal approves
|
 |
Trigger: Valkorion wants to lend you his power |
|
- [Refuse Valkorion’s power] – 100 LS points, Valkorion will remember your action
- [Wield Valkorion’s power] – 100 DS points, Valkorion approves, gain 3 abilities on your temporary ability bar.
|
 |
Trigger: After defeating Heskal |
|
- I’m willing to join forces – Senya approves
- We can find other allies – Senya disapproves
- My power is greater/Guilt clouds your judgment – Senya will remember that
|
 |
Trigger: Heskal assks what future you see for this galaxy |
|
- We’ll figure it out
- The Republic will fix things
- I’ll be in full control
|
 |
Trigger: If you didn’t tell Lana about Valkorion and Heskal reveals it |
|
- You’re right – Lana approves
- I was confused
- No, you didn’t – Lana disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: If you told Lana about Valkorion and Heskal reveals it. Then Koth will ask about it |
|
- We had to take precautions
- [Flirt] Secrets are good – Koth seems interested
- Yes exactly – Koth will remember that
|
 |
|
Chapter 7: Lady of Sorrows
Spoiler Inside |
SelectShow> |
Cutscenes
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qgBw0wh6PU&w=448&h=252&hd=1]
Rewards
- 23,130 credits
- 757,913 XP
- Variable amount of LS/DS pts
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Lana Beniko
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Koth Vortena
- Variable amounts of Influence with Senya Tirall
- Variable amounts of Influence with T7-01
- 10 Common Data Crystal
- Choice of rating 190 feet and hands
|
 |
Trigger: Senya says she has to end their bloodshed |
|
- Then welcome aboard – Senya approves
- Were you in love with Valkorion? – Senya is amused
- You couldn’t have done worse – Senya disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Senya talking about Lady of Sorrows |
|
- Good, we can have a chat – Lana approves, Senya is amused
- Isn’t it dangerous to return? – Senya ia amused
- I don’t trust you, but okay – Koth approves, Lana/Senya disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Lana says you must act as an example |
|
- I will try – Lana approves
- Do you trust them?
- You let Senya deceive you – Lana disapproves
|
 |
- Check the Power Generator
- Check the Primary Fuse Box
- Locate a Fuse
- Repair the Fuse
- Bonus: Clean-up Detail – Check and Repair Faulty Fuses: 0/8 (26,692 credits, 72.372 XP). These boxes are all over the ship so you have to check multiple rooms. If the fuse is faulty you will need to repair it to get credit.

- Take the Shuttle to Zakuul
Trigger: Senya talking about Valkorion |
|
- Tell me about you and Valkorion – Senya is amused
- Let’s keep moving (this will skip some of the convos below)
|
 |
Trigger: If you tell Senya to tell you more about her and Valkorion |
|
- I can understand that
- [Flirt] Just like you
- So he was smug and ruthless
|
 |
Trigger: Senya talking about Vaylin |
|
- She was that bad?
- We don’t have to discuss this – Senya appreciates that
- Hardly surprising – Senya disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Senya talking about leaving her children |
|
- I’m so sorry – Senya appreciates that
- What did Valkorion do?
- Coward – Senya will remember that
|
 |
Trigger: T7-01 coming in |
|
- Find out anything new?
- You really get around – T7 approves
- Get to the status report – T7 disapproves
|
 |
- Exit the Undercity Resource Network
- Bonus: No Cameras: Take out Security Cameras: 0/7 (26,692 credits, 72.372 XP). The security cameras are up on the gateways between the areas.
- A bit inside you will find a force shield blocking your way but there are panels you can disable to gain further access to the Undercity network, You will need to do this each time you spot a force shield.
- Exit the Tram Service Tunnels
- Use the City Directory
Trigger: Senya need to go alone to a contact |
|
- On the job now?
- Be quick – Senya greatly approves
- Alone? Nope
|
 |
- Command T7 at Surveillance Feed 1
- Command T7 at Surveillance Feed 2
- Use the Access Terminal
Trigger: Valkorion speaking to you about Senya |
|
- Glad she did – Valkorion approves
- Out of necessity, not trust – Valkorion disapproves
- You’re manipulative – Valkorion is amused
|
 |
- Command T7 at Surveillance Feed 3
- Command T7 at the Last Feed
- Use the Local Passcode Terminal
- Help Senya in the Cantina
- Defeat Aitan and the Heralds of Zildrog 0/3
- Talk to Reg
Trigger: Senya says you know what I can do. |
|
- Stop hurting him – Senya disapproves, 50 LS points
- She’s the nice one – Senya approves, 50 DS points
- [Say nothing]
|
 |
- Travel to the Tram Market
- Talk to the Bystander
Trigger: Mona telling you about the Lady of Sorrow |
|
- Appreciate it – Senya approves
- No more scamming people – Senya approves
|
 |
- Take the Tram to Breaktown
Trigger: Senya talking about the Heralds |
|
- We have to try
- What can we offer them? – Senya is amused
- We’ll make them talk – Senya approves
|
 |
- Travel to the Gate Entrance
Trigger: Making a decision on who to bring to meet the Herald |
|
- I’m taking Senya – Koth/Senya will remember your actions
- I’m taking Koth – Koth/Senya will remember your actions
|
 |
- Go to the Stronghold
- Talk to the Exalted
Trigger: If you bring Senya to talk to the Exalted about meeting Lady of Sorrows |
|
- Be reasonable, Exalted – Senya disapproves
- Let me clarify [Threaten him] – Senya approves
|
 |
Trigger: If you bring Koth to talk to the Exalted |
|
- We are strong – Koth approves
- I’ll kill him – Koth approves
- [Let Koth speak] – Koth approves
|
 |
- Defeat the Exalted’s Heralds 0/4
- Take the Lift to Midtown
- Find a way to Shut Down the Security Grid
- Bonus: Street Sweeper. Defeat Heralds of Zildrog 0/25 (26,692 credits, 72.372 XP)
- Enter the Razor
- Destroy the East Side Generator
- Gain Access to the Razor
- Get inside the Razor
- Defeat Xon and the Heralds of Zildrog
- Take the Penthouse Lift
- Talk to Novo
Trigger: Novo says I know I would find you |
|
- You shouldn’t be here – Senya/Koth approves
- I recognize one of you – Koth approves/Senya disapproves
- Have we met? – Senya disapproves/Koth approves
|
 |
- Defeat Novo
- Defeat Balisk
- Finish off Balisk
Trigger: Novo says I don’t need to be a scion to see your epitaph |
|
- Not true [Knock them out] – Senya/Koth approves, 50 LS points
- Better than yours [kill them] – Senya/Koth disapproves, 50 DS points
|
 |
Trigger: If you took Senya with you and find Koth alive |
|
- Glad you’re okay – Koth appreciates that
- How did the Lady capture you?
- [Lie] Senya was concerned – Senya is not amused
|
 |
Trigger: If you took Koth with you and find Senya alive |
|
- That make two of us – Senya appreciates that
- Lucky is right – Senya disapproves
- [Lie] That makes three of us – Koth is not amused
|
 |
|
Chapter 8: Taking Flight
Spoiler Inside |
SelectShow> |
Cutscenes
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoTweLmBoME&w=448&h=252&hd=1]
Rewards
- 23,865 credits
- Variable amount of LS/DS pts
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Lana Beniko
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Koth Vortena
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with T7-01
- 10 Common Data Crystal
- Choice of rating 190 head and legs
|
 |
Trigger: Scorpio wants full access to the ship |
|
- Explain how you’d do that.
- I’ll consider it – Koth disapproves, Scorpio approves
- Absolutely not – Scorpio disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Lana asking for an alliance with Republic and Empire |
|
- Good, I’m glad to hear it – Lana approves
- You should’ve asked me first – Lana disapproves
- We don’t need those fools – Lana disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Lana talking about zealots are unpredictable by nature |
|
- I can handle him
- [Flirt] You’ll keep me safe – Lana approves
- So am I.
|
 |
- Speak with the Scion Heskal
Trigger: Arcann says don’t make me wait |
|
- [Lie] I surrender
- I accept your terms, Arcann – Valkorion greatly disapproves
- [Attack Arcann] – Valkorion approves
|
 |
- Defeat Arcann
- Talk to Arcann
Trigger: Lana asks if you are alive |
|
- For the moment
- Stop bothering me
|
 |
Trigger: Lana tells you the Gravestone is under siege |
|
- I’m on my way – Lana approves
- You’re on your own – Lana disapproves
|
 |
- Escape the Scion’s Enclave Ruins
- Defeat the Knights of Zakuul
- Speak with Heskal
Trigger: Talking to Heskal about Scions |
|
- Your betrayal is taking lives
- Tell me how to save them – T7-01 approves
- I plan to kill them
|
 |
- Escape to the Gravestone
- Speak with Lana
- Meet with Koth
Trigger: Koth hears that Vaylin is at the ship |
|
- Focus on our mission – Lana approves
- Go to them, if you want – Lana disapproves
- [Lie] Your people are fine – Koth approves, Lana remember that you lied
|
 |
- Take a Shuttle to Control Spar
- Defeat the Walker
- Take a Shuttle to Control Spar
Trigger: Koth talking about the Emperor |
|
- I don’t want his help – Koth disapproves
- You hero-worshipping a monster – Koth disapproves
- [Lie] We’re working on a plan – Koth approves
|
 |
Trigger: Koth says it is an honor to fight alongside you |
|
- Stay close. We’re a team – Koth approves
- [Flirt] Flatterer – Koth approves
- Don’t fail me – Koth disapproves
|
 |
- Meet up with HK-55
- Defeat Zakuul Invaders
- Speak to HK-55
Trigger: Koth tell you to get the Gravestone flying |
|
- No unnecessary heroics, Koth.
- [Flirt] You’re my champion – Koth approves, Lana disapproves
- Have a meaningful death
|
 |
- Get to the Control Spar
- Use the Docking Controls to Release the Gravestone
- Defeat Arcann
- Speak with Arcann
Trigger: Valkorion says you need his power |
|
- I’ll defat you both-alone – 150 LS points, Valkorion greatly disapproves
- Give me your power – 150 DS points – Valkorion greatly approves
|
 |
Trigger: If you picked the option to not use Valkorion’s power |
|
- Thanks for the save
- [Flirt] I’ll live, for you – Koth approves
- My mission was a success
|
 |
Trigger: If you picked the option to not use Valkorion’s power |
|
- I’ll be fine/I’ve had worse
- My duel took a bad turn/The battle took a lot from me
- Don’t make me kill you/Force choke (Force-choke will cause Koth to disapprove and Tora to remember your cruelty)
|
 |
Trigger: If you didn’t use Valkorion’s power |
|
- Valkorion must have saved me – Lana is concerned
- How long was I out? – Lana is slightly amused
- Don’t coddle me – Koth/Lana disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: if you picked the option to use Valkorion’s power |
|
- Valkorion’s power tore me up – Koth approves, Lana disapproves
- How long was I out?
- Don’t coddle me
|
 |
Trigger: Lana talking about HK |
|
- He was a hero to the end
- Did he have a memory backup?
- It was just a droid – Lana disapproves
|
 |
|
Chapter 9: The Alliance
Spoiler Inside |
SelectShow> |
Cutscenes
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmY6X6OxYZg&w=448&h=252&hd=1]
Rewards
- 23,865 credits
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Lana Beniko
- Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Koth Vortena
- Variable amounts of Influence with T7-01
- Variable amounts of Influence with Theran Shan
- Variable amounts of Influence with Senya Tirall
- +200 Influence with Alliance Specialists
- 10 Common Data Crystal
- Choice of rating 190 chest
|
 |
Trigger: Lana tells you this is your new alliance |
|
- Nice Work – Lana approves
- I’m not in charge – Lana/Koth approves
- Pathetic – Koth approves/Lana disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Theron Shan showing up |
|
- Of course – I’m glad you’re here – Theron approves
- Not really/Spying for us now? – Theron is amused
- You again? Ugh – Theron disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Theron says it has been a long five years |
|
- Tell me
- [Flirt] You changed – Theron approves
- I havn’t
|
 |
- Head to the Alliance War Room
Trigger: After you have been introduced to all the specialists |
|
- Greetings, Stay Back Doctor – All but Oggurobb approves
- Which big questions?
- You all work for me – All but Oggurobb disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Theron asking if you have any questions |
|
- No, thank you.
- [Flirt] When can we talk? – Theron approves
- No. Get back to work
|
 |
Trigger: Picking I’m surprised you’re helping us. I though Hutts maintained neutrality |
|
- Consider me inspired – Oggurobb approves
- I apologize for misjudging you – Oggurobb aproves
- We were talking about standing against the Eternal Empire’s technology?
- I’m not here to listen to you whine – Oggurobb wil remember that
|
 |
- Speak to Bey’wan Aygo (regardless which choice you pick, you will gain +200 influence)
Trigger: Empire players talking to Aygo |
|
- Likewise, Admiral. I look forward to working together – Aygo approves
- [Agent background] Aygo. You were a fleet admiral at Kuat – Your action will be remembered
- It doesn’t quite sound like it’s a pleasure to you – Aygo appreciates your honesty
- You know, I’ve never really liked Bothans – Aygo disapproves
- I can’t believe we’re trusting our military command to a Republic Officer
|
 |
- Speak to Hylo Visz (regardless which choice you pick, you will gain +200 influence)
- So, explain to me who are you again? – Hylo seems amused
- Just stopping by to have a look at things – Hylo seems intrigued
- Ugh. What a rabble…- Hylo disapproves
- If I didn’t know better, I’d say you’re running a massive smuggling ring out of our base – Hylo seems amused
|
 |
- Speak to Sana-Rae (regardless which choice you pick, you will gain +200 influence)
- The Alliance is honored to have your support – Sana approves
- I’m grateful for any assistance – is there any more the Voss could contribute? – Sana approves
- We’re facing down the Eternal Empire, and this is all the Voss could spare? Pitiful – Sana disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Lana says I wasn’t sure you’d attend |
|
- Wouldn’t miss it – Koth/Lana approves
- I’m not the party type? – Lana is amused
- We should be working – Koth disapproves, Theron approves
|
 |
Trigger: I need to see one of you (The choices below depends on your relationship with the characters. If one of them hates you, you won’t get to talk to them) |
|
- I need to see one of you.
- Koth –Koth apporoves
- Lana – Lana approves
- Theron – Theron approves
- [Flirt] I need to see one of you.
- Koth – Koth approves
- Lana – Lana approves
- Theron – Theron approves
|
 |
Trigger: I need to see one of you – Koth |
|
- Good Job – Koth approves
- I hope so – Koth approves
- Work your crew harder – Koth disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: [Flirt] I need to see one of you – Koth |
|
- [Flirt[ I’m okay with that – Koth approves, begin romance
- We’ll work well together – Koth approves
- Help me watch for traitors
|
 |
Trigger: I need to see one you – Koth |
|
- We’ll work well together – Koth approves
- Help me watch for traitors
- Don’t you dare compare us – Koth disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: [Flirt] I need to see one of you – Lana |
|
- [Flirt] It isn’t important – Lana approves, begin romance
- Only with your help – Lana approves
- I don’t buy it
|
 |
Trigger: I need to see one of you – Lana |
|
- Only with your help – Lana approves
- I don’t buy it
- Just don’t screw up – Lana disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: [Flirt] I need to see one of you – Theron |
|
- [Flirt] Everything? – Theron approves
- I know – Theron approves
- Watch the new ones – Theron approves
|
 |
Trigger: I need to see one of you – Theron |
|
- I know – Theron approves
- Watch the new ones – Theron approves
- You had better – Theron disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Koth talking about Senya |
|
- She has a point
- Let Koth work it out – Koth approves, Lana disapproves
- This is a party – Koth disapproves
|
 |
Trigger: Lana says reminds me of my advisor days |
|
- Good to be your ally, all – Lana/Theron/Koth approves
- I’m going to find Senya – Koth approves
- Get working, everyone – Theron approves
|
 |
Trigger: Senya says everyone want to stand behind you |
|
- It’s not enough – Senya approves
- Its my destiny – Senya disapproves
- What’s really on your mind? – Senya is amused
|
 |
Trigger: Valorion talking to you |
|
- I have no regrets – Valkorion approves
- It’s a blur – Valkorion disapproves
- Not going to read my thoughts? – Valkorion is amused
|
 |
- Go to the Alliance War Room
Trigger: Lana says it is your first official speech as Alliance Commander |
|
- I’m honored – Lana is greatly amused
- About time
- I didn’t agree to that role – Lana is greatly amused
|
 |
|
250 replies on “SWTOR Fallen Empire Quest and Story Guide”
According to the Patch Notes from yesterday, you can no longer lose Influence with companions: you only gain it. Decisions that companions dislike will still gain Influence, similar to how Reputation worked in Mass Effect 3.
“Whether a companion agrees or disagrees with your decision, you will still build influence with them depending on their reaction and severity of the action. We want to reward you for spending time with your companions and not worry about losing progression or standing by making decisions the way you think your character should.”
Oops yeah my bad. Didn’t mean to say you can lose influence but rather you gain different amounts depending on the choices you picked
Do we know if there is a console (that was promised) that you can use to gain access to your old companions, and if it does exist, where is it?
There is a terminal inside your alliance base in Odessen once you finish chapter 9
Thank you!
Wait,, so can I do oricon later cuz i havnt started it ? 😛
not sure, but I suggest you to do Oricon before starting KotFEE
It warns of class quests and companions quests being lost, so my guess is at least the story part of Oricon would be lost, yes.
Seeing how it would no longer fit the time line, I think any story line that predates KoTFE is forfeited by starting Chapter 1.
Oricon is not a class quest. There are no class quests after 50. Any side content and expansions should be playable. I played through with the Oricon quest in my mission log and it never went away, I suspect you can still pick it up after as well but that would need to be verified.
If you have 30% Class story Xp bonus…? So are XP booster up from 25%, or is this some new wonderous animal to stress over…?
legacy xp boosts give 6% each…there are 5.
do the maf!
Aaahahah…indeed…in my immeasurable excitement, I have completely overlooked and forgotten such things. Thanks! 😉
> 23 minutes
> 11 minutes
> 17 minutes
I heard a lot of promises of “1 hour of story per chapter” — lol, just remembered what company made those promises. Not surprised at all.
Doesn’t it say “Cut Scene Length?” I think that’s the length of the cut scenes in the story -not counting game play.
Devastation of countless mobs and push_three_buttons_on_the_each_corner_of_the_map-crap is not the “story”.
But okay, let it be “one hour of gameplay per chapter” as u implying and we find that BioFail made around 9 hours of a singleplayer mode on MMO engine for goddamn YEAR. And now they’re asking 20 dollars for this. Err, now i’m thinking they just cheated on people very hard.
They aren’t asking for anything? It’s free to subs, and let’s face it, only subs matter.
“Free for subscribers” is somewhat of a contradiction in itself, though…
Anyway, I’m quite happy with KOTFE so far.
“Only watching cutscenes counts as game content!”
You’re a Metal Gear fan, right?
Do you need a wambulance?
The critical thinking is not strong in this one…
Yeah, you misread that friend, but a simple mistake.
On another note, I’m waiting for the really obnoxious posts on the forum from people who space barred the cut scenes saying length it’s not as advertised. :/
Even without space barring the chapters are no where near a hour.
I am not subscribed currently – I don’t have early access. I was subscribed long enough to get Nico as my comp. Does ANYONE know if I can buy the first nine chapters on the 27th rather than having to stay subscriber in order to get ANYTHING? Or is this just BioWare’s biggest money sap ever?
If you are a sub by the 27th I believe you get the first 9 chapters.
That’s what I mean. I don’t want to have to subscribe, I just want to purchase authorization. Something tells me you no longer have access once your subscription ends.
I think they said you do keep access, but you won’t get the new chapters until you sub again, so I’d suggest either waiting ’till all chapters are released and subbing then or subbing for a month now and then when they’re all released. That’s my plan, as non-sub. I will have to wait ’till they’re all released, though.
OK. I usually try not to subscribe and just purchase new expansions one time, but they’re making almost everything available to people who aren’t subbed.
I like that plan, though. Saves more money 😛
Well, I would wait for confirmation that you really keep the chapters, ’cause it might have changed, but I’m deeply hoping for this option as well! Good luck and enjoy the expansion when you get it and 4.0 in general!
We had 100% confirmation you keep the chapters months ago…
“9. What if I unsubscribe from Star Wars: The Old Republic after October?
If you unsubscribe after October 27, 2015, you will keep the
first 9 Chapters of Knights of the Fallen Empire, but will not receive
any additional Chapters when they are released.”
“10. What if I don’t subscribe until all the Chapters are released?
If you subscribe after the launch of Knights of the
Fallen Empire, you will receive all the content that has been released
up to that date. However, as a subscriber you are eligible for great benefits that you don’t want to miss out on such as a monthly Cartel Coin grant and access to the full spectrum of character species.”
http://www.swtor.com/support/helpcenter/7418
If you aren’t subbed now, you won’t get anything chapter-wise-just Nico.
You have To Be A Sub. If you sub you get the current chapters forever, but no following chapters if you unsub. So you can sub for a mo. get the first 9, unsub and then re-sub next year and get the next ch. and so on.
Wait does this mean valkorion is a companion
No, actually he isn’t. He’s DEAD, not ALIVE!!!!
Is there a way to summon my companions before starting Chapter 1? They keep their chest pieces but walk around with no pants and boots in the cut scenes if you don’t re-equip them XD
Any idea why I can’t start the missions? They don’t show up in my Mission Terminal. I subbed yesterday in the morning, and i’m able to earn XP after 60.
you won’t get the chapters until next week…this week is for early access only. If you subbed yesterday you don’t qualify for early access.
you cant for the early access you had to be subscibed all time fully between august 10th and october 19th
Early access starts today. You had to be a sub from Aug 10th until Oct 19th to qualify. Otherwise you get access as a sub next Tuesday the 27th. Everyone see patch 4.0 today. That is why you’re getting exp.
Ah alright thank you!
What is your armor name ? I didn’t play for few months so i don’t know 🙂
Thexan’s robe from cartel market
SPOILER ALERT
{Someone know how to save darth marr? (Or is it possible?)}
Not posssible currently but you will see more of him later on
So this means he’s not dead? Still trying to find out if he will become a permanent companion at some point or if they’re killing him off.
SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He appears in later chapters as a Force ghost, talking with another character I won’t name.
where did the arkanian/dreadguard/underworld sets go? i cant find them
Gone forever.
hmm datamined stuff said it would still be around as with the name ”remnant” and as legacy gear… if its gone forever that sucks :p lol
You can buy them from me, and other crafters who saw this coming, and learned the recipes.
Yeah it will still be craftable but you can’t get the pieces to learn them anymore. You had to learn them before 4.0
Yeah, already purchased stuff is. But the vendors are gone.
Turning in Supply Crates to your specialists/advisors (Oggurob, Sana-rae, Hylo Visz, Admiral Aygo) will give you a randomly-selected piece of “classic” ops gear as an empty BoL shell.
thats sweet
Anyone else encountered the problem of mission not being able to launch, because a follower that is required is not available?
I can´t get chapter 4 started, went to fleet before talking to Koth and now i can´t get back.
Finally, a light side Hunter Killer! Where were you during all of my many empire character’s stories?!
Um I the only one who was a subscribe between Aug 10th until Oct 19th and havent recieved anything …
contact bioware
I didn’t get my gifts too. And i want Nico so badly.
They just did a Dev post saying they found a billing error and corrected it. They said if you think you should’ve had Early access to try logging out and back in (A full logout, not just to character select.) If you still don’t have it but think you should, contact CS so they can review your account.
I am still waiting on the Alliance blog they said would be out by now. Meant to explain to us how the Alliance is recruited and expected to work.
http://www.swtor.com/info/news/blog/20151020-0
Yeah i found the info i needed here on Dulfy’s website.
I did the missions on Ziost planet. Now back on ship and no purple icon! Anyone else?
Sorry cant help ya mate. I dont have early access.
So why say anything?
Because i would like to help, but i am unable to.
Still doesn’t explain why you said anything. So you just said ” I can’t help” so that he would know you can’t help. That was very helpful. I’m sure he appreciates it.
You having completed Ziost shouldn’t even matter, actually. At level 60, the mission terminal in your ship should allow you to start Chapter I, regardless of whether or not you’ve finished any of the SoR content.
Im confused about something, lets say that i play a Sith Warrior and a SW companion (Vette, Quinn, Pierce) dies or rejects me during Knights of the Fallen Empire. Can I still use them for stuff outside of KOTFE like solo flashpoints?
Yes
oh really
Does anyone have an issue of the game showing 0.0% downloaded once you launch it? I’ve got everything downloaded the game just won’t recognize it. Or doesn’t seem to be
go to the swtor file and change the speed and change false to true
For me restarting the game helped, did you try that?
Dulfy, I have to ask, you upload these videos so fast, but do you even have time to enjoy it?
I wish she could tho… because “it’ all about story”
so much for the 1 hour claim that bioware claimed…..23 minutes like really dufly? did you spacebar it?
lol.
Just… lol.
OMG DULFY=FAST PLAYER 😀
That is the length of the cutscenes if you read it correctly.
It’s been over 9 hours, and she’s been posting them as she goes along.
if you watch everything+combat it’ll take you roughly 6-7 hours to complete
No a lot of the chapters are just that short if you don’t mess around.
Question….where do you go to get the recruitment mission for Nico Okarr? I am finished with Chap 9 and i still can not find it.
Check your mailbox.
I was under the impression that the clickable in the inbox just gave you the comp…and that it wasnt actually the Recruitment mission (to give people options). Is that not so?
Whoops – I apologize; I misread your question. Also, Dulfy has already helped out more than I ever could have, so happy blasting!
Recruitment mission for Nico appears when you complete To Find A Findsman to acquire Yuun
Thank you for the info…i was actually about to start that now to test it. As always you are a great help
Why did I lose nearly all my skills when I started The hunt? IS that right?
Go to you preferences and it will allow you to take the tutorial mode off, thus gaining all of your skills.
So I activated the new Akk Dog Companion prior to starting the expansion – He vanished after I started it and, unlike Nico, doesn’t seem to come back. Greatly distressing. Anyone know if this is an issue?
Chill bro, either make a ticket or just wait for a few days (weeks) before bioware realize they made an ultimate mistake…
Known issue, same thing with your old companions
Is there some way to change the outfits for Lana, Koth, etc?
Nope. Just the original companions, as musco stated before, for example Darth Marr’s armor cannot be changed
Marr makes sense since his face can never be seen, but that’s kinda dumb about the rest especially since Lana’s vintage outfit is in the CM, so it would make a lot of sense for her to be able to wear it
well what you said kinda made sense…
Nope all the new companions use high res textures so you can’t till they release actual customizations.
So, considering everything I saw, does HK-55 have only one fate, or I can start scrapping my main and search for a new one? 🙁
no idea but it would be cool if hk51 and hk55 fight together and become friends 😀
ohh wow… the Devs are now ‘restraining’ me to watch the WHOLE CUTSCENE unless i want my companions to die??
Well.. at least I Could slow down myself and enjoy a bit of this game 😀
oh I could level up without doing side missions for strangers now? HOW NICE
“They will either approval or disapprove of your choices and you gain amounts of influence”
Pretty sure you meant “approve or disapprove”, Dulfy 🙂
“you can finish the story in about 6-7 hrs watching cutscenes” gee thanks bioware…
Compared to the rest of the games previous expansion content, that is much longer, as well as the cut scenes being very well done and long. People like you would complain about free money.
Well said. Haha
Not really as they focused purely on the story for this expansion vs the others that had additional content.
The cut scenes were much longer for sure. The fighting was so watered down it got boring for me. Watch 30 minutes of cut scenes > Face roll keyboard for 5 minutes > rinse and repeat. I bet an animal walking on the keyboard could complete the expansion in 7-10 hours.
With the stuff you do between them, the time accumulates, not to mention that not everyone can or wants to be holed up in thier “chambers” all day to do the expansion in one go. ^^
Not rushing I finished this in 7 hours on my first run. This is with answering the door for delivery and bathroom/water breaks. Very disappointing.
Dulfy, do you plan on doing a guide on the Alliance building missions that take place after Chapter IX?
So marr isnt a companion?
Nope, he was a companion for 10 minutes in the first chapter. After that is… :/
Why does it say are you sure about doing the mission, what happens if you start it, are there things you can not do once you start KotFE?.
Class stories etc cannot be finished once you start KoTFE
When is chapter 10 coming?
January 2016
Hmm, reading through the dialogs for the Cantina part of chapter 9, it seems that you can “begin romance” with both Lana and Koth, but no such option for Theron?
If you had romanced Theron in Forged Alliances/Shadow of Revan then you get a special scene with him where you can commit to a romance with him. I did anyways.
Oh, that is GOOD to know, thank you!
Just a note: in chapter 8 when (SPOILER!) you use valkie’s power to kill mask-face, if you deny him, he will greatly disapprove and dismiss your choice not to, and take control of your body anyway IF you had used his power before. I used it to (spoiler) save Lana in chapter 4 and (spoiler) fight Heskal in… I don’t even remember. If you use his power two times, he will force you to use it a third time.
Yup. happened to me too. Did both those choices which made him dismissed my choice :/
Is it only me that’s getting killed by campfires on the ship in the beginning of The Hunt continuously? Even with Marr healing me it will just kill me outright after a certain time, that time not being long enough to move and fight much of anything.
Campfires on the ship? No one is camping there. Contrary to what Duran Duran may tell you don’t dance into the fire, easy fix.
Oh man, i cannot click the shuttle on the “Take Shuttle to Zakuul” mission
I can’t either! so frustrating!
When you 1st meet Valky and your character and Marr talk about a familiar presence, all I could think was: “I knew it, Kephess!”
I lol’d
Question: Will SoR become free-to-VIP on the 27th? I’ve been saving my refferal code potential 7 day sub for the possibility that i might get SoR + KOTFE without another microtransaction.
I don’t think a free 7 day sub will qualify you for KotFE.
Wow, cheap much?
Where is Senya located in chater 9? i can’t find her =/
Go to military hanger, use the door to get to your persona ship, she is next to it.
yay ty! i was looking for her outside, thought she wasnt inside the phase XD
So I was in a group finder que during chapter 8 (escaping to gravestone part) and I joined it, now I’m in the fleet and there is no way for me to return..any help?
Believe there is a tab you click to go back and it should teleport you there.
Love the story and storytelling of new expansions but hate all the recent unnecessary changes that continue to happen and turn Swtor from a true RPG into something that is more simpler, casual, and limited when it comes to game’s choices,leveling, progression, and even some changes hurting some of the immersion as they continue to strip away even more RPG elements from Swtor. Clearly they catering more to the PvPers who could care less about important RPG elements and factors like progression, immersion, and etc. companions use to be more unique and fulfill different roles for example now they all can play any role making them pretty much lifeless and the same and you can no longer gear them either making them nothing but a skin and easy mode for players who were lazy or didn’t like to actually have to maintain their companions in order for them to be productive.
Also with new Discplines and leveling system you know longer can develop and build your character the way you like and could before with advanced classes and now with Discplines it prevents players from building Hybrid builds while also progressing and leveling your character for you versus having to choose for yourself like before. so now everyone has less choice and is pretty much the same when choosing same discipline as only thing sets anyone aside then would be utilities which still is nowhere as it was before.Don’t get me wrong I don’t exactly believe most of the recent changes are a caee of them just catering to PvPers but more or less devs designing the MMO to be easier for them to maintain both work wise and cost wise as well because they could easily have separated PvE and PVP like GW2 did by now and kept both sides happy but didn’t and haven’t because they had other ideas in mind and ones that make their jobs easier and lower costs of maintaining the MMO as well.
They could have developed a design that makes everyone happy but that would take more time meaning more work and more money so they continue to pick the easy way out all the time even with crew skills instead of fixing the bad crew skills they nerf the couple that are actually any good therefo making all crew skills just as bad as one another so no one can say any are better then one another versus doing it right and actually fixing the crew skills that needed some revising. Honestly it’s our faults because as long as they can profit from the cartel market/cash shop they will continue to do this’s stead of taking the time to do things right. No such thing as bad game only bad design and anything is possible if they willing do the work take the time and spend the money.
so stupid..this game has no love for pvpers since 2 years ago pops are empty and dead blaming pvper’s that are all gone from this game makes you look like a fool.
Actually the skills that can make armor got a major buff. They can now learn to make gear equivalent to hard mode gear.
Who else came on after the patch to find all their companions had lost their pants?
I just assumed they’d had a party and forgot to invite me.
hehe I was like… WTH
*Raises hand*
Star Wars: Knights of the Fallen Pants
LOOOOOOL!!! Yes, exactly! When I first logged on my chars all my comps’ pants where in Inventory… JUST the pants!!! WTF?!?
I would like to know what happens when Trooper finds Tanno Vik and when Agent finds scorpio, got any vids ppl?
I tried on both but didn’t record it. Tanno Vik was like you being gone too long, I am no longer part of Havoc squad. You can kill him too on a trooper
Wrong place for it I know, but the gree vendor has 6 new decos (3 art, 1 gree NPC, 1 (non-art) wall deco, and one…pillar…thing) added, and the schematics for the crystal of nightmare fury. Didn’t see the info anywhere yet, so thought I’d let you know if you didn’t already.
Why would you mention that here on a random post instead of in the decorations section?
Because I couldn’t find it?
http://tor-decorating.com/?s=gree
That’s not a dulfy site though, is it?
Yes it is. There’s a link to it at the top of Dulfy.net
Agent makes comments with and on Scorpio and Lana instead asks “Your worked with Scorpio before can we trust her” instead.
Anyone can help? I have my instant lvl 60 character, but i cant go to any old planets except tatoine..why? Also i finished story..and im sad, i cant go event to fleet..
even* , so i cant do anything, including old ops….only in gf
Did you try going to your stronghold and then exiting to fleet? Just a thought.
Its OK now, they repaired It with that small patch that was
Hey Dulfy – Any Guide to avoid Companion perma-deaths?
You can’t avoid them. There is no way to save those companions
So there’s no way to save the person who goes later in the game? Being vague to avoid spoiling anyone.
If you are talking about the guy I am thinking, not currently but remember not all of them are organic living beings.and those not can be rebuilt maybe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoLs0V8T5AA
well, if you’re a subscriber on jan 11th, apparently you can save them….
Don’t want to spoil so things but asking for guidance gets pretty vague. I kinda know there are some you can’t avoid…for the story, but what about the ones you really want to keep? Or is it some BS and your choices don’t really matter. I guess an non spoiler example is needed. Don’t want to mess up and they Gone Forever. I would really be PO.
You mean my classic companions won’t be available even after Chapter 8 with that terminal during KOTFE story because they died in vision? Or they didn’t really die? I’m not good at Force Visions Philosophy.
It’s better if you play through and find out. I think it’s fairly safe to say (without spoiling) that no one you were previously fond of/attached to dies during the course of the expansion story, at least not without you making an active choice for it to happen.
Oh that is just a dream, you will get your classic companions back when they fix the bug with the terminal
Anybody know if you reject Valkorians request to help save Lana will she be killed?
Injured, not killed.
Thanks. This is what i was trying to ask without spoiling anything.
I rejected the help. Didn’t care if she died. I’m loyal to my little China Doll.
Was that racist?
Choices don’t matter same as always. There are very minor differences but the overall is it’s the same result. Like Valkorian says, “choice is an illusion”
Would love to know if Jaesa shows up for SW and is romance-able as a female. Also would love to kill Quinn. I assume only Lana is half-way romance-able like in the previous patches.
No, i believe they are gonna make Lana a full on romance. “If you romance Lana and have an old relationship they won’t be happy” so its a full romance this time ^.^. Also i hope they at least make light side Jaesa romancable don’t like crazy lets murder them all Jaesa.
you can still tell her to have babies with you if she’s light and she will agree to pass her gift into your legacy. 😉
Can you still esc out of conversations?
yes
I take it you cant disable these IMO lame classic cutscenes? And your toon not taking in them. Lame.
Is that Kaliyo on the Pic for Chapter 10 or any other Ratataki ? If she play a role in the Story i think we will not see her as a companion for a longer time now…
It’s damn near certain to be Kaliyo. The descriptor ‘anarchist’ says as much.
Remind me, when did they say the next chapter would be released?
January 2016…
Hey Dulfy, are you going to show both romances for lana and theron?
Are there lore objects in these chapters that we need to keep an eye out for?
Nope
Actully that is wrong,There is one of the missions where you fight that Zakuul protocol droid after destroying 2 of the generators at each sides and mobs keep coming out of elevators in that chapter and on that place theres a datapad you can interact with and starts with something speaking about the awe of combat or such thing which after you activate gives you a lore thing
Micky Ceaser its about star fortress
only 2 datalog In chapters
see here http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=654989&page=40
the gravestone’s creators [in gravestone after your repair door to angar you find datalog(chapter 5)]
commerce in the free zone [on Asylum alley before entrance in scions house(chapter 6) find datapad]
* you can really miss it if already finish story (I miss it too)
BUT you can open it on same character – 2 ways
1) use 2 Computer log in second account (maybe friend or family) and when any character be in 5 and 6 chapter summon your main character where you want this lore
2) simple find any who do 5 and 6 chapter now and ask join he. he can summon you
there is a lore object just before you meet senya where once you walk through the door HK gets disabled. If you go left before going right to meet senya there is a lore object on the one bed. FYI
there is a lore item called datalog in the hangar bay after you find the 4 tools to fix the door. not sure if you can eventually access it later
Wow the rewards are so crappy, I thought you would end up in better gear then 190 green.
How is it they made a whole new xpac and give you worse gear then the pre story Ziost rewards.
I actually got a purple like 206 drop.. just one.. so there is definitely better gear out there. Unfortunately it was bid on pickup and not for my Class so I had to sell it, bu they do exist.
IF you do the instant level 60 Jugg, which version of Jaesa do they give you later?
Instant level 60’s on empire are all Darkside choices
Wish there was a way to chose some of the major decisions for our insta-60s
Actually my free 60 I made an Inquisitor and they call her by the lightside Darth title of Imperius, not Nox which is the darkside Darth title.
So is there an option to keep HK-55 alive or is his death scripted regardless either way? Cos I went LS and refused Valkorian’s help and figured that was why I lost HK, if so that sucks he’s much better than 51.
I don’t believe there is, but his character note says that, “There SEEMS to be no way of reviving him” (emphasis mine). I took Valkorion’s power because why the fuck not, and he still got fried because Arcann is a bitch.
BioWare loves to leave things open ended and bring characters back as much as they do have that one companion betray you every time or give you moral choices.
Ah that’s a good point, and I suppose it’s possible Arcaan might find a way to reactivate him or something. Also had to laugh at your because Arcann is a bitch comment 😛
Well it was my Jedi so I refused to keep the light side path going, plus I’m looking on it the more I’d take his power the easier it is for him to take control in the future is my guess.
I do like what they’ve done with him though as a character, like this whole other side to him as Valkorion, from what Senya and Koth had said he was like compared to how we knew him as the Emperor, it at least made me wonder what he would have been like if the Republic/Empire, Jedi/Sith hadn’t been around since neither were around where he did what he did with Zakuul.
HK-55 is by far the most agreeable HK i’ve ever seen. I hope they bring him back, and i double hope they allow us to use HK-51’s customizations on him.
HK-47 died and came back at least twice in SWTOR alone, so there’s certainly precedent for rebuilding defeated HK’s. I’d say the chances are pretty high that the next time we see HK-55, he’s going to be working for a new employer, and be happy to see you for the wrong reasons.
we haven’t even seen all the chapters so far…
plus, he is too cheerful. on chapter 7 when he keeps talking about bug-killing got on my nerves…
HK-51 and 47 are way better, unless someone fix him
Anyone know if female toons can flirt with Senya, or is it just males, and do they have fewer options to do so? She’s a bamf.
females can flirt too
little thing. when talking to hylo visz as a bounty hunter you can mention guess
I like the story, I just wish the majority of the action was not “Oh no! Three sky troopers are blocking my path!” A few more puzzles or “find an alternate way to beat the boss” encounters would have been welcome.
How does grouping work for these quests? Can my wife duo it by going back in for the other person like class quests?
Many of the areas are instanced, meaning that only either you OR your wife may make progress in their missions, even if you are in the same instance.
You can do it (there is even a convenient ‘summon group member to your position’ feature), but doing so means that you will cover much of the content twice.
When I first met HK-55 (C3) I got the chance to say he looked familiar. I’m on my toon which has a HK-51
So what did Revan say at Maelstrom?
“I led my allies to the edge of the galaxy to detroy the Emperor. We didn’t understand his true power.”
“I lost everyone…betrayed from within. The Emperor imprisoned me, kept me alive with Sith alchemy..used me.”
So the story leads just to another Revan.
Interesting observation.
You know, after playing the expansion from both sides (Rep and Imp) I see your point and, sadly, that is not a good omen for my characters…
Ok, there’s my question: do you have to be a subscriber in order to begin Fallen Empire quest line? I am not and I can’t find the purple icon to start the story on my ship! I tried with all my character and I still can’t find that icon! I got all the rewards (Nico Okarr’s dustacoat, Niko Okarr’s guns, Niko Okarr) as well as the old companions’ gear. I just can’t start the quest line!
yes, you have to be a subscriber
So… playing all alone in a interactive movie is the future of MMOs for BioWare?
The future of MMOs died back in 2012. Now they are just floating above water with stuff SWTOR did best.
Apparently… I can’t see how anyone would feel this is worth an ongoing sub.
This is Bioware actually doing what they are good at instead of trying to one-up stuff that has already been done better. Story is what SWTOR is actually good for. It IS a Bioware game.
If you want good raids or good pvp and are not satisfied with that SWTOR can offer in those areas, then you might want to reconsider your choice of MMOs.
Thanks for the guide, I am really enjoying coming back to play the Fallen Empire and the changes BioWare made so far 😉
I can’t find terminal on my ship I’m 60 and a sub who used referral link
after playing kofte, now i can finally check out this part and see the choices YOU made..
Chapter 2 still crashes on me.
Cheers for this dulfy
Does anyone know why it won’t let players “share” these quests while grouped?
Because it’s not supposed to be shared. Firstly, those are chain quests, secondly, they are in “PERSONAL phases”, not “group phases”.
That makes sense, though it kind of takes the “M” out of MMO
I think they’d have to make the story much more narrow, if it was meant for groups. Also: Who would the NPCs like Senya follow when outside of cutscenes? Random group member? Group leader? A Senya for each of them?
The note in the Hylo Visz’s mission Underground Logistics is not right. As a Jedi Knight I choose option 2 – Just stopping by to have a look at things and while Hylo was intrigued I ended up with 0 Influence with Hylo. You should change the note that any choice gets you +200 Influence. Everything else has been good. Thanks for the walkthru.
I am stuck on chapter 4 Speak to HK-55 have go to gravestone and i go there but noting happens everything is locked and no HK-55 help me please
Did you click on the activation pod next to the tent? It isn’t really visible unless you go around the tent.
I had issues with not being able to click on the big battery after getting the ship parts. It wouldn’t work for me because I had sent Koth on an Scavenging Mission so he was unavailable. I had reset the quest, and made sure no one was on any side missions and no issue. Hope this helps.
I wonder if you choose “let him go” during your escape in Chapter 3, if the fight (and/or convo afterwards) before meeting the Lady of Sorrows in chapter 7 would play out differently? or would it matter?
I chose let him go, How did your story play out?
i let lana have her way in chap 3, but ran into the guy that ran off before meeting the lady of sorrows in chap 7. need to play it on another toon or 2 to find out all the different branching paths
It doesnt matter – in ch3 Tanek dies or from Lana or from Vay – in both cases shame on us.
What level does the mission appear in your mission terminal?
Not sure this is relevant, but since I have been through KotFE with all eight classes, here are the individuals you face in the “destroyed” capital part of your dream (Chapter 2)
Both Jedi face Satele Shan. The Sith classes get Darth Marr. Agent gets Darth Jadus, while Trooper gets Gen. Garza. Smuggler fights Nok Drayan. And the Bounty Hunter faces Mandalore.
Not sure if this has been asked before but does anyone know why torian is not there in chapter 1 as a female bounty hunter who romanced him?
I can’t begin the mission. There’s a purple mission in my log but when I click on the mission giver in my ship it says “Not eligible for this conversation” Any help?
You’r find à solution because i’ve thé same problème ?
you may have active phases or another active quest that is preventing you from starting this one. (if i recall correctly) can right click your char image and there’s an option for resetting all phases. i’d then look through you’re other quests, see if there’s some other mission, that’s progression based, that’s not complete. …ie could purge your quest log of everything, eliminate those possibilities
Same problem – i have done the mission with 3 pub characters on the server, yet when i get my agent to the ship, i get the “not eligible…” line. 😐
i found a solution – though not direct > take your character to level 70, open galactic command and play chapter 1 directly from there – hope this helps!
Chapter 6 – Lore Object datapad in the alley where you meet Senya.
Just came back to the game after a long hiatus.
I finished all chapters but I’m seeing “The Hunt” on my console consistently. I may be rusty but – just to be sure – I played it again and it’s still there.
Is this just something that will stay as a repeatable mission or am I missing something?
You’d think being a subscriber since 2012, I would know better but my break was a year long and I feel lost as hell now. :-/
same here w/my lv VG did we miss something that may have jumped the Story Line
My Lv 70^
I just read a post from a Dev. named Keith in which he mentions something about Mako’s return… did I miss read or does something happen upon completion of chapter 9 that I should know about?
I just love Valkorion’s voice actor