A guide to the main quest in the Fallen Empire expansion and influence gain from conversations. This post contains story spoilers. This a work in progress.
You will find the mission terminal on your ship. It is marked with a purple icon. You will be asked if you are sure about starting the story when you interact with it.
Cutscene Length
Total cutscene length is around 200 minutes or 3.3 hrs. Actual playtime is roughly twice of that so you can finish the story in about 6-7 hrs watching cutscenes or 3 hrs if you spacebar through everything.
Chapter 1: 23 minutes
Chapter 2 : 11 minutes
Chapter 3: 15 minutes
Chapter 4: 27 minutes
Chapter 5: 19 minutes
Chapter 6: 22.5 minutes
Chapter 7: 18.5 minutes
Chapter 8: 30 minutes
Chapter 9: 26 minutes
Choices and Influence Gain
Some dialogues have choices that will give you influence gain with certain characters that are part of the conversation. They will either approval or disapprove of your choices and you gain amounts of influence with them accordingly (you won’t lose influence, just gain less or no influence on disapproval choices). Who approves or disapproves each conversation choice is recorded below.
In the opening cinematic, you will get a convo with Valkorion with some choices that can gain his approval or disapproval. It doesn’t seem to matter here as you do not gain or lose influence with him.
Trigger: Valkorion tells you that you have earned his respect
You’ve changed
Too bad—I’m not listening
Are you flirting with me? – Valkorion disapproves
Trigger: Valkorion talks about your companions
They still have a cause/One is my lover
[Call out to your allies]
I’d replace some if I could – Valkorion approves
Trigger: Old foes have come to take your life
Nightmares can’t hurt me
They’ll fail
Come on, then! – Valkorion approves
Reach Your Companions
Defeat Visions from Your Past
Reach Your Companions
Trigger: Valkorion tells you are superior to the fools in charge
Empire Dialogue
First choice (class dependent)
I could make the Empire great – Valkorion disapproves
Then why are we here?
Republic Dialogue
This isn’t a dictatorship – Valkorion disapproves
Second choice (class dependent)
I should be in charge
Trigger: This Empire/Republic is not worth saving
Empire Dialogue
You mean Zakuul
We’re not allies/I’m listening – Valkorion is amused
The Empire is worth saving – Valkorion disapproves
Republic Dialogue
You mean Zakuul?
There is no “we” – Valkorion is amused
The Republic is worth saving – Valkorion disapproves
Reach the Central Taxi Pad
Too Little Too Late (Bonus): Revive Fallen Citizens 0/10. 68,035 XP
Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Lana Beniko
Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Koth Vortena
Variable amounts of Influence with Senya Tirall
10 Common Data Crystal
Choice of rating 190 bracers and belt
In the opening cutscene, there are some conversation choices that can affect influence.
Trigger: Koth and Senya arguing and Koth says Figures..
Everyone needs to loosen up – Lana approves
Answer the question, Senya – Koth approves
Leave her alone, Koth – Koth disapproves, Senya approves
Trigger: Koth introducing his crew
You let them pick a fight _ Koth is amused
I shouldn’t be surprised – Koth is amused
They were about to be toast – Koth is not amused
Trigger: You saved Ralo and abandoned ship in Chapter 1
You’re a long way from home
Good to see you’re alive
This isn’t what I expected
Trigger: You saved Ralo but rammed the ship in Chapter 1
I’ll learn from my mistakes
It was a tough call
Quit whining
Trigger: Koth says his best engineer havn’t returned
I’ll find her – Koth appreciates that
You want Lana to go look – Koth is concerned
This isn’t my problem – Koth is concerned
Go to the Free Zone
Find Tora
Bonus: Peace in the Free Zone: Defeat Free Zone Underbosses 0/4 (72,372 XP). These are the strong named mobs you will find around the Free Zone. Triggered when you kill any of the underbosses
Defeat Oggo
Find Tora
Trigger: HK talking about break Tanno Vik’s arms
We pay, Tora leaves. Period – 100 LS ponts, Tora approves
Settle this peacefully, folks – 100 LS points, Tora disapproves
No deal [Kill Tanno Vik] – 100 DS points
Locate Senya
Trigger: Heskal talking about Fate and Force
Lets’ work together/Sounds good to me – Heskal approves
Do you? Really?/ I don’t believe in fate – Heskal disapproves
The Force is overrated/Focus on my power
Trigger: Heskal want to test you
So be it – Senya approves
I’ve been challenge before
Are you threatening me?
Defeat Maral
Defeat Tersu
Enter the Next Training Chamber
If you kill Tanno Vik, Heskal will comment on this.
Trigger: Heskal asks if you feel anything for those who suffered
Of course I do – Senya approves
Arcann will face justice – Senya disapproves
I want revenge, not regrets – Senya disapproves
Defeat Vanat
Defeat Berusal
Enter the Meditation Chamber
Trigger: Heskal asks what you will do about Arcann
There’s been enough death – Senya approves, Heskal disapproves
Senya? – Valkorion seems intrigued
I’ll destroy him – Senya disapproves, Heskal approves
Defeat Heskal
Trigger: Valkorion wants to lend you his power
[Refuse Valkorion’s power] – 100 LS points, Valkorion will remember your action
[Wield Valkorion’s power] – 100 DS points, Valkorion approves, gain 3 abilities on your temporary ability bar.
Confront Heskal
Trigger: After defeating Heskal
I’m willing to join forces – Senya approves
We can find other allies – Senya disapproves
My power is greater/Guilt clouds your judgment – Senya will remember that
Trigger: Heskal assks what future you see for this galaxy
We’ll figure it out
The Republic will fix things
I’ll be in full control
Trigger: If you didn’t tell Lana about Valkorion and Heskal reveals it
You’re right – Lana approves
I was confused
No, you didn’t – Lana disapproves
Trigger: If you told Lana about Valkorion and Heskal reveals it. Then Koth will ask about it
Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Lana Beniko
Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Koth Vortena
Variable amounts of Influence with Senya Tirall
Variable amounts of Influence with T7-01
10 Common Data Crystal
Choice of rating 190 feet and hands
Initial Cutscene
Trigger: Senya says she has to end their bloodshed
Then welcome aboard – Senya approves
Were you in love with Valkorion? – Senya is amused
You couldn’t have done worse – Senya disapproves
Trigger: Senya talking about Lady of Sorrows
Good, we can have a chat – Lana approves, Senya is amused
Isn’t it dangerous to return? – Senya ia amused
I don’t trust you, but okay – Koth approves, Lana/Senya disapproves
Trigger: Lana says you must act as an example
I will try – Lana approves
Do you trust them?
You let Senya deceive you – Lana disapproves
Check the Power Generator
Check the Primary Fuse Box
Locate a Fuse
Repair the Fuse
Bonus: Clean-up Detail – Check and Repair Faulty Fuses: 0/8 (26,692 credits, 72.372 XP). These boxes are all over the ship so you have to check multiple rooms. If the fuse is faulty you will need to repair it to get credit.
Take the Shuttle to Zakuul
Trigger: Senya talking about Valkorion
Tell me about you and Valkorion – Senya is amused
Let’s keep moving (this will skip some of the convos below)
Trigger: If you tell Senya to tell you more about her and Valkorion
I can understand that
[Flirt] Just like you
So he was smug and ruthless
Trigger: Senya talking about Vaylin
She was that bad?
We don’t have to discuss this – Senya appreciates that
Hardly surprising – Senya disapproves
Trigger: Senya talking about leaving her children
I’m so sorry – Senya appreciates that
What did Valkorion do?
Coward – Senya will remember that
Trigger: T7-01 coming in
Find out anything new?
You really get around – T7 approves
Get to the status report – T7 disapproves
Exit the Undercity Resource Network
Bonus: No Cameras: Take out Security Cameras: 0/7 (26,692 credits, 72.372 XP). The security cameras are up on the gateways between the areas.
A bit inside you will find a force shield blocking your way but there are panels you can disable to gain further access to the Undercity network, You will need to do this each time you spot a force shield.
Exit the Tram Service Tunnels
Use the City Directory
Trigger: Senya need to go alone to a contact
On the job now?
Be quick – Senya greatly approves
Alone? Nope
Command T7 at Surveillance Feed 1
Command T7 at Surveillance Feed 2
Use the Access Terminal
Trigger: Valkorion speaking to you about Senya
Glad she did – Valkorion approves
Out of necessity, not trust – Valkorion disapproves
You’re manipulative – Valkorion is amused
Command T7 at Surveillance Feed 3
Command T7 at the Last Feed
Use the Local Passcode Terminal
Help Senya in the Cantina
Defeat Aitan and the Heralds of Zildrog 0/3
Talk to Reg
Trigger: Senya says you know what I can do.
Stop hurting him – Senya disapproves, 50 LS points
She’s the nice one – Senya approves, 50 DS points
[Say nothing]
Travel to the Tram Market
Talk to the Bystander
Trigger: Mona telling you about the Lady of Sorrow
Appreciate it – Senya approves
No more scamming people – Senya approves
Take the Tram to Breaktown
Trigger: Senya talking about the Heralds
We have to try
What can we offer them? – Senya is amused
We’ll make them talk – Senya approves
Travel to the Gate Entrance
Trigger: Making a decision on who to bring to meet the Herald
I’m taking Senya – Koth/Senya will remember your actions
I’m taking Koth – Koth/Senya will remember your actions
Go to the Stronghold
Talk to the Exalted
Trigger: If you bring Senya to talk to the Exalted about meeting Lady of Sorrows
Be reasonable, Exalted – Senya disapproves
Let me clarify [Threaten him] – Senya approves
Trigger: If you bring Koth to talk to the Exalted
We are strong – Koth approves
I’ll kill him – Koth approves
[Let Koth speak] – Koth approves
Defeat the Exalted’s Heralds 0/4
Take the Lift to Midtown
Find a way to Shut Down the Security Grid
Bonus: Street Sweeper. Defeat Heralds of Zildrog 0/25 (26,692 credits, 72.372 XP)
Enter the Razor
Destroy the East Side Generator
Gain Access to the Razor
Get inside the Razor
Defeat Xon and the Heralds of Zildrog
Take the Penthouse Lift
Talk to Novo
Trigger: Novo says I know I would find you
You shouldn’t be here – Senya/Koth approves
I recognize one of you – Koth approves/Senya disapproves
Have we met? – Senya disapproves/Koth approves
Defeat Novo
Defeat Balisk
Finish off Balisk
Trigger: Novo says I don’t need to be a scion to see your epitaph
Not true [Knock them out] – Senya/Koth approves, 50 LS points
Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Lana Beniko
Variable amounts of Influence Gain with Koth Vortena
Variable amounts of Influence with T7-01
Variable amounts of Influence with Theran Shan
Variable amounts of Influence with Senya Tirall
+200 Influence with Alliance Specialists
10 Common Data Crystal
Choice of rating 190 chest
Initial Cutscene
Trigger: Lana tells you this is your new alliance
Nice Work – Lana approves
I’m not in charge – Lana/Koth approves
Pathetic – Koth approves/Lana disapproves
Trigger: Theron Shan showing up
Of course – I’m glad you’re here – Theron approves
Not really/Spying for us now? – Theron is amused
You again? Ugh – Theron disapproves
Trigger: Theron says it has been a long five years
Tell me
[Flirt] You changed – Theron approves
I havn’t
Head to the Alliance War Room
Trigger: After you have been introduced to all the specialists
Greetings, Stay Back Doctor – All but Oggurobb approves
Which big questions?
You all work for me – All but Oggurobb disapproves
Trigger: Theron asking if you have any questions
No, thank you.
[Flirt] When can we talk? – Theron approves
No. Get back to work
Speak to Doctor Oggurobb
Trigger: Picking I’m surprised you’re helping us. I though Hutts maintained neutrality
Consider me inspired – Oggurobb approves
I apologize for misjudging you – Oggurobb aproves
We were talking about standing against the Eternal Empire’s technology?
I’m not here to listen to you whine – Oggurobb wil remember that
Speak to Bey’wan Aygo (regardless which choice you pick, you will gain +200 influence)
Trigger: Empire players talking to Aygo
Likewise, Admiral. I look forward to working together – Aygo approves
[Agent background] Aygo. You were a fleet admiral at Kuat – Your action will be remembered
It doesn’t quite sound like it’s a pleasure to you – Aygo appreciates your honesty
You know, I’ve never really liked Bothans – Aygo disapproves
I can’t believe we’re trusting our military command to a Republic Officer
Speak to Hylo Visz (regardless which choice you pick, you will gain +200 influence)
So, explain to me who are you again? – Hylo seems amused
Just stopping by to have a look at things – Hylo seems intrigued
Ugh. What a rabble…- Hylo disapproves
If I didn’t know better, I’d say you’re running a massive smuggling ring out of our base – Hylo seems amused
Speak to Sana-Rae (regardless which choice you pick, you will gain +200 influence)
The Alliance is honored to have your support – Sana approves
I’m grateful for any assistance – is there any more the Voss could contribute? – Sana approves
We’re facing down the Eternal Empire, and this is all the Voss could spare? Pitiful – Sana disapproves
Relax in the Cantina
Trigger: Lana says I wasn’t sure you’d attend
Wouldn’t miss it – Koth/Lana approves
I’m not the party type? – Lana is amused
We should be working – Koth disapproves, Theron approves
Trigger: I need to see one of you (The choices below depends on your relationship with the characters. If one of them hates you, you won’t get to talk to them)
I need to see one of you.
Koth –Koth apporoves
Lana – Lana approves
Theron – Theron approves
[Flirt] I need to see one of you.
Koth – Koth approves
Lana – Lana approves
Theron – Theron approves
Trigger: I need to see one of you – Koth
Good Job – Koth approves
I hope so – Koth approves
Work your crew harder – Koth disapproves
Trigger: [Flirt] I need to see one of you – Koth
[Flirt[ I’m okay with that – Koth approves, begin romance
We’ll work well together – Koth approves
Help me watch for traitors
Trigger: I need to see one you – Koth
We’ll work well together – Koth approves
Help me watch for traitors
Don’t you dare compare us – Koth disapproves
Trigger: [Flirt] I need to see one of you – Lana
[Flirt] It isn’t important – Lana approves, begin romance
Only with your help – Lana approves
I don’t buy it
Trigger: I need to see one of you – Lana
Only with your help – Lana approves
I don’t buy it
Just don’t screw up – Lana disapproves
Trigger: [Flirt] I need to see one of you – Theron
[Flirt] Everything? – Theron approves
I know – Theron approves
Watch the new ones – Theron approves
Trigger: I need to see one of you – Theron
I know – Theron approves
Watch the new ones – Theron approves
You had better – Theron disapproves
Trigger: Koth talking about Senya
She has a point
Let Koth work it out – Koth approves, Lana disapproves
This is a party – Koth disapproves
Trigger: Lana says reminds me of my advisor days
Good to be your ally, all – Lana/Theron/Koth approves
I’m going to find Senya – Koth approves
Get working, everyone – Theron approves
Find Senya
Trigger: Senya says everyone want to stand behind you
It’s not enough – Senya approves
Its my destiny – Senya disapproves
What’s really on your mind? – Senya is amused
Trigger: Valorion talking to you
I have no regrets – Valkorion approves
It’s a blur – Valkorion disapproves
Not going to read my thoughts? – Valkorion is amused
Go to the Alliance War Room
Trigger: Lana says it is your first official speech as Alliance Commander
I’m honored – Lana is greatly amused
About time
I didn’t agree to that role – Lana is greatly amused
According to the Patch Notes from yesterday, you can no longer lose Influence with companions: you only gain it. Decisions that companions dislike will still gain Influence, similar to how Reputation worked in Mass Effect 3.
“Whether a companion agrees or disagrees with your decision, you will still build influence with them depending on their reaction and severity of the action. We want to reward you for spending time with your companions and not worry about losing progression or standing by making decisions the way you think your character should.”
It warns of class quests and companions quests being lost, so my guess is at least the story part of Oricon would be lost, yes.
Seeing how it would no longer fit the time line, I think any story line that predates KoTFE is forfeited by starting Chapter 1.
Oricon is not a class quest. There are no class quests after 50. Any side content and expansions should be playable. I played through with the Oricon quest in my mission log and it never went away, I suspect you can still pick it up after as well but that would need to be verified.
Devastation of countless mobs and push_three_buttons_on_the_each_corner_of_the_map-crap is not the “story”.
But okay, let it be “one hour of gameplay per chapter” as u implying and we find that BioFail made around 9 hours of a singleplayer mode on MMO engine for goddamn YEAR. And now they’re asking 20 dollars for this. Err, now i’m thinking they just cheated on people very hard.
Yeah, you misread that friend, but a simple mistake.
On another note, I’m waiting for the really obnoxious posts on the forum from people who space barred the cut scenes saying length it’s not as advertised. :/
I am not subscribed currently – I don’t have early access. I was subscribed long enough to get Nico as my comp. Does ANYONE know if I can buy the first nine chapters on the 27th rather than having to stay subscriber in order to get ANYTHING? Or is this just BioWare’s biggest money sap ever?
That’s what I mean. I don’t want to have to subscribe, I just want to purchase authorization. Something tells me you no longer have access once your subscription ends.
I think they said you do keep access, but you won’t get the new chapters until you sub again, so I’d suggest either waiting ’till all chapters are released and subbing then or subbing for a month now and then when they’re all released. That’s my plan, as non-sub. I will have to wait ’till they’re all released, though.
OK. I usually try not to subscribe and just purchase new expansions one time, but they’re making almost everything available to people who aren’t subbed.
I like that plan, though. Saves more money 😛
Well, I would wait for confirmation that you really keep the chapters, ’cause it might have changed, but I’m deeply hoping for this option as well! Good luck and enjoy the expansion when you get it and 4.0 in general!
We had 100% confirmation you keep the chapters months ago…
Hawks
Oct 20, 2015 @
20:03:00
“9. What if I unsubscribe from Star Wars: The Old Republic after October?
If you unsubscribe after October 27, 2015, you will keep the
first 9 Chapters of Knights of the Fallen Empire, but will not receive
any additional Chapters when they are released.”
“10. What if I don’t subscribe until all the Chapters are released?
If you subscribe after the launch of Knights of the
Fallen Empire, you will receive all the content that has been released
up to that date. However, as a subscriber you are eligible for great benefits that you don’t want to miss out on such as a monthly Cartel Coin grant and access to the full spectrum of character species.”
You have To Be A Sub. If you sub you get the current chapters forever, but no following chapters if you unsub. So you can sub for a mo. get the first 9, unsub and then re-sub next year and get the next ch. and so on.
Is there a way to summon my companions before starting Chapter 1? They keep their chest pieces but walk around with no pants and boots in the cut scenes if you don’t re-equip them XD
Any idea why I can’t start the missions? They don’t show up in my Mission Terminal. I subbed yesterday in the morning, and i’m able to earn XP after 60.
Early access starts today. You had to be a sub from Aug 10th until Oct 19th to qualify. Otherwise you get access as a sub next Tuesday the 27th. Everyone see patch 4.0 today. That is why you’re getting exp.
Turning in Supply Crates to your specialists/advisors (Oggurob, Sana-rae, Hylo Visz, Admiral Aygo) will give you a randomly-selected piece of “classic” ops gear as an empty BoL shell.
Anyone else encountered the problem of mission not being able to launch, because a follower that is required is not available?
I can´t get chapter 4 started, went to fleet before talking to Koth and now i can´t get back.
They just did a Dev post saying they found a billing error and corrected it. They said if you think you should’ve had Early access to try logging out and back in (A full logout, not just to character select.) If you still don’t have it but think you should, contact CS so they can review your account.
Still doesn’t explain why you said anything. So you just said ” I can’t help” so that he would know you can’t help. That was very helpful. I’m sure he appreciates it.
You having completed Ziost shouldn’t even matter, actually. At level 60, the mission terminal in your ship should allow you to start Chapter I, regardless of whether or not you’ve finished any of the SoR content.
Im confused about something, lets say that i play a Sith Warrior and a SW companion (Vette, Quinn, Pierce) dies or rejects me during Knights of the Fallen Empire. Can I still use them for stuff outside of KOTFE like solo flashpoints?
Does anyone have an issue of the game showing 0.0% downloaded once you launch it? I’ve got everything downloaded the game just won’t recognize it. Or doesn’t seem to be
I was under the impression that the clickable in the inbox just gave you the comp…and that it wasnt actually the Recruitment mission (to give people options). Is that not so?
So I activated the new Akk Dog Companion prior to starting the expansion – He vanished after I started it and, unlike Nico, doesn’t seem to come back. Greatly distressing. Anyone know if this is an issue?
Marr makes sense since his face can never be seen, but that’s kinda dumb about the rest especially since Lana’s vintage outfit is in the CM, so it would make a lot of sense for her to be able to wear it
Compared to the rest of the games previous expansion content, that is much longer, as well as the cut scenes being very well done and long. People like you would complain about free money.
The cut scenes were much longer for sure. The fighting was so watered down it got boring for me. Watch 30 minutes of cut scenes > Face roll keyboard for 5 minutes > rinse and repeat. I bet an animal walking on the keyboard could complete the expansion in 7-10 hours.
With the stuff you do between them, the time accumulates, not to mention that not everyone can or wants to be holed up in thier “chambers” all day to do the expansion in one go. ^^
Hmm, reading through the dialogs for the Cantina part of chapter 9, it seems that you can “begin romance” with both Lana and Koth, but no such option for Theron?
If you had romanced Theron in Forged Alliances/Shadow of Revan then you get a special scene with him where you can commit to a romance with him. I did anyways.
Just a note: in chapter 8 when (SPOILER!) you use valkie’s power to kill mask-face, if you deny him, he will greatly disapprove and dismiss your choice not to, and take control of your body anyway IF you had used his power before. I used it to (spoiler) save Lana in chapter 4 and (spoiler) fight Heskal in… I don’t even remember. If you use his power two times, he will force you to use it a third time.
Is it only me that’s getting killed by campfires on the ship in the beginning of The Hunt continuously? Even with Marr healing me it will just kill me outright after a certain time, that time not being long enough to move and fight much of anything.
Question: Will SoR become free-to-VIP on the 27th? I’ve been saving my refferal code potential 7 day sub for the possibility that i might get SoR + KOTFE without another microtransaction.
So I was in a group finder que during chapter 8 (escaping to gravestone part) and I joined it, now I’m in the fleet and there is no way for me to return..any help?
Love the story and storytelling of new expansions but hate all the recent unnecessary changes that continue to happen and turn Swtor from a true RPG into something that is more simpler, casual, and limited when it comes to game’s choices,leveling, progression, and even some changes hurting some of the immersion as they continue to strip away even more RPG elements from Swtor. Clearly they catering more to the PvPers who could care less about important RPG elements and factors like progression, immersion, and etc. companions use to be more unique and fulfill different roles for example now they all can play any role making them pretty much lifeless and the same and you can no longer gear them either making them nothing but a skin and easy mode for players who were lazy or didn’t like to actually have to maintain their companions in order for them to be productive.
Also with new Discplines and leveling system you know longer can develop and build your character the way you like and could before with advanced classes and now with Discplines it prevents players from building Hybrid builds while also progressing and leveling your character for you versus having to choose for yourself like before. so now everyone has less choice and is pretty much the same when choosing same discipline as only thing sets anyone aside then would be utilities which still is nowhere as it was before.Don’t get me wrong I don’t exactly believe most of the recent changes are a caee of them just catering to PvPers but more or less devs designing the MMO to be easier for them to maintain both work wise and cost wise as well because they could easily have separated PvE and PVP like GW2 did by now and kept both sides happy but didn’t and haven’t because they had other ideas in mind and ones that make their jobs easier and lower costs of maintaining the MMO as well.
They could have developed a design that makes everyone happy but that would take more time meaning more work and more money so they continue to pick the easy way out all the time even with crew skills instead of fixing the bad crew skills they nerf the couple that are actually any good therefo making all crew skills just as bad as one another so no one can say any are better then one another versus doing it right and actually fixing the crew skills that needed some revising. Honestly it’s our faults because as long as they can profit from the cartel market/cash shop they will continue to do this’s stead of taking the time to do things right. No such thing as bad game only bad design and anything is possible if they willing do the work take the time and spend the money.
so stupid..this game has no love for pvpers since 2 years ago pops are empty and dead blaming pvper’s that are all gone from this game makes you look like a fool.
I tried on both but didn’t record it. Tanno Vik was like you being gone too long, I am no longer part of Havoc squad. You can kill him too on a trooper
Wrong place for it I know, but the gree vendor has 6 new decos (3 art, 1 gree NPC, 1 (non-art) wall deco, and one…pillar…thing) added, and the schematics for the crystal of nightmare fury. Didn’t see the info anywhere yet, so thought I’d let you know if you didn’t already.
Anyone can help? I have my instant lvl 60 character, but i cant go to any old planets except tatoine..why? Also i finished story..and im sad, i cant go event to fleet..
If you are talking about the guy I am thinking, not currently but remember not all of them are organic living beings.and those not can be rebuilt maybe
Don’t want to spoil so things but asking for guidance gets pretty vague. I kinda know there are some you can’t avoid…for the story, but what about the ones you really want to keep? Or is it some BS and your choices don’t really matter. I guess an non spoiler example is needed. Don’t want to mess up and they Gone Forever. I would really be PO.
You mean my classic companions won’t be available even after Chapter 8 with that terminal during KOTFE story because they died in vision? Or they didn’t really die? I’m not good at Force Visions Philosophy.
It’s better if you play through and find out. I think it’s fairly safe to say (without spoiling) that no one you were previously fond of/attached to dies during the course of the expansion story, at least not without you making an active choice for it to happen.
Choices don’t matter same as always. There are very minor differences but the overall is it’s the same result. Like Valkorian says, “choice is an illusion”
Would love to know if Jaesa shows up for SW and is romance-able as a female. Also would love to kill Quinn. I assume only Lana is half-way romance-able like in the previous patches.
No, i believe they are gonna make Lana a full on romance. “If you romance Lana and have an old relationship they won’t be happy” so its a full romance this time ^.^. Also i hope they at least make light side Jaesa romancable don’t like crazy lets murder them all Jaesa.
Is that Kaliyo on the Pic for Chapter 10 or any other Ratataki ? If she play a role in the Story i think we will not see her as a companion for a longer time now…
Actully that is wrong,There is one of the missions where you fight that Zakuul protocol droid after destroying 2 of the generators at each sides and mobs keep coming out of elevators in that chapter and on that place theres a datapad you can interact with and starts with something speaking about the awe of combat or such thing which after you activate gives you a lore thing
the gravestone’s creators [in gravestone after your repair door to angar you find datalog(chapter 5)]
commerce in the free zone [on Asylum alley before entrance in scions house(chapter 6) find datapad]
* you can really miss it if already finish story (I miss it too)
BUT you can open it on same character – 2 ways
1) use 2 Computer log in second account (maybe friend or family) and when any character be in 5 and 6 chapter summon your main character where you want this lore
2) simple find any who do 5 and 6 chapter now and ask join he. he can summon you
there is a lore object just before you meet senya where once you walk through the door HK gets disabled. If you go left before going right to meet senya there is a lore object on the one bed. FYI
Wow the rewards are so crappy, I thought you would end up in better gear then 190 green.
How is it they made a whole new xpac and give you worse gear then the pre story Ziost rewards.
I actually got a purple like 206 drop.. just one.. so there is definitely better gear out there. Unfortunately it was bid on pickup and not for my Class so I had to sell it, bu they do exist.
So is there an option to keep HK-55 alive or is his death scripted regardless either way? Cos I went LS and refused Valkorian’s help and figured that was why I lost HK, if so that sucks he’s much better than 51.
I don’t believe there is, but his character note says that, “There SEEMS to be no way of reviving him” (emphasis mine). I took Valkorion’s power because why the fuck not, and he still got fried because Arcann is a bitch.
BioWare loves to leave things open ended and bring characters back as much as they do have that one companion betray you every time or give you moral choices.
Ah that’s a good point, and I suppose it’s possible Arcaan might find a way to reactivate him or something. Also had to laugh at your because Arcann is a bitch comment 😛
Well it was my Jedi so I refused to keep the light side path going, plus I’m looking on it the more I’d take his power the easier it is for him to take control in the future is my guess.
I do like what they’ve done with him though as a character, like this whole other side to him as Valkorion, from what Senya and Koth had said he was like compared to how we knew him as the Emperor, it at least made me wonder what he would have been like if the Republic/Empire, Jedi/Sith hadn’t been around since neither were around where he did what he did with Zakuul.
HK-55 is by far the most agreeable HK i’ve ever seen. I hope they bring him back, and i double hope they allow us to use HK-51’s customizations on him.
HK-47 died and came back at least twice in SWTOR alone, so there’s certainly precedent for rebuilding defeated HK’s. I’d say the chances are pretty high that the next time we see HK-55, he’s going to be working for a new employer, and be happy to see you for the wrong reasons.
we haven’t even seen all the chapters so far…
plus, he is too cheerful. on chapter 7 when he keeps talking about bug-killing got on my nerves…
HK-51 and 47 are way better, unless someone fix him
I like the story, I just wish the majority of the action was not “Oh no! Three sky troopers are blocking my path!” A few more puzzles or “find an alternate way to beat the boss” encounters would have been welcome.
Many of the areas are instanced, meaning that only either you OR your wife may make progress in their missions, even if you are in the same instance.
You can do it (there is even a convenient ‘summon group member to your position’ feature), but doing so means that you will cover much of the content twice.
“I led my allies to the edge of the galaxy to detroy the Emperor. We didn’t understand his true power.”
“I lost everyone…betrayed from within. The Emperor imprisoned me, kept me alive with Sith alchemy..used me.”
Ok, there’s my question: do you have to be a subscriber in order to begin Fallen Empire quest line? I am not and I can’t find the purple icon to start the story on my ship! I tried with all my character and I still can’t find that icon! I got all the rewards (Nico Okarr’s dustacoat, Niko Okarr’s guns, Niko Okarr) as well as the old companions’ gear. I just can’t start the quest line!
This is Bioware actually doing what they are good at instead of trying to one-up stuff that has already been done better. Story is what SWTOR is actually good for. It IS a Bioware game.
If you want good raids or good pvp and are not satisfied with that SWTOR can offer in those areas, then you might want to reconsider your choice of MMOs.
I think they’d have to make the story much more narrow, if it was meant for groups. Also: Who would the NPCs like Senya follow when outside of cutscenes? Random group member? Group leader? A Senya for each of them?
The note in the Hylo Visz’s mission Underground Logistics is not right. As a Jedi Knight I choose option 2 – Just stopping by to have a look at things and while Hylo was intrigued I ended up with 0 Influence with Hylo. You should change the note that any choice gets you +200 Influence. Everything else has been good. Thanks for the walkthru.
I had issues with not being able to click on the big battery after getting the ship parts. It wouldn’t work for me because I had sent Koth on an Scavenging Mission so he was unavailable. I had reset the quest, and made sure no one was on any side missions and no issue. Hope this helps.
I wonder if you choose “let him go” during your escape in Chapter 3, if the fight (and/or convo afterwards) before meeting the Lady of Sorrows in chapter 7 would play out differently? or would it matter?
i let lana have her way in chap 3, but ran into the guy that ran off before meeting the lady of sorrows in chap 7. need to play it on another toon or 2 to find out all the different branching paths
Not sure this is relevant, but since I have been through KotFE with all eight classes, here are the individuals you face in the “destroyed” capital part of your dream (Chapter 2)
Both Jedi face Satele Shan. The Sith classes get Darth Marr. Agent gets Darth Jadus, while Trooper gets Gen. Garza. Smuggler fights Nok Drayan. And the Bounty Hunter faces Mandalore.
I can’t begin the mission. There’s a purple mission in my log but when I click on the mission giver in my ship it says “Not eligible for this conversation” Any help?
you may have active phases or another active quest that is preventing you from starting this one. (if i recall correctly) can right click your char image and there’s an option for resetting all phases. i’d then look through you’re other quests, see if there’s some other mission, that’s progression based, that’s not complete. …ie could purge your quest log of everything, eliminate those possibilities
i found a solution – though not direct > take your character to level 70, open galactic command and play chapter 1 directly from there – hope this helps!
Just came back to the game after a long hiatus.
I finished all chapters but I’m seeing “The Hunt” on my console consistently. I may be rusty but – just to be sure – I played it again and it’s still there.
Is this just something that will stay as a repeatable mission or am I missing something?
You’d think being a subscriber since 2012, I would know better but my break was a year long and I feel lost as hell now. :-/
I just read a post from a Dev. named Keith in which he mentions something about Mako’s return… did I miss read or does something happen upon completion of chapter 9 that I should know about?
Oct 20, 2015 @ 15:35:00
According to the Patch Notes from yesterday, you can no longer lose Influence with companions: you only gain it. Decisions that companions dislike will still gain Influence, similar to how Reputation worked in Mass Effect 3.
“Whether a companion agrees or disagrees with your decision, you will still build influence with them depending on their reaction and severity of the action. We want to reward you for spending time with your companions and not worry about losing progression or standing by making decisions the way you think your character should.”
Oct 20, 2015 @ 15:39:00
Oops yeah my bad. Didn’t mean to say you can lose influence but rather you gain different amounts depending on the choices you picked
Oct 20, 2015 @ 22:13:00
Do we know if there is a console (that was promised) that you can use to gain access to your old companions, and if it does exist, where is it?
Oct 20, 2015 @ 23:27:00
There is a terminal inside your alliance base in Odessen once you finish chapter 9
Oct 21, 2015 @ 21:08:00
Thank you!
Oct 20, 2015 @ 15:39:00
Wait,, so can I do oricon later cuz i havnt started it ? 😛
Oct 20, 2015 @ 15:42:00
not sure, but I suggest you to do Oricon before starting KotFEE
Oct 20, 2015 @ 17:10:00
It warns of class quests and companions quests being lost, so my guess is at least the story part of Oricon would be lost, yes.
Seeing how it would no longer fit the time line, I think any story line that predates KoTFE is forfeited by starting Chapter 1.
Nov 03, 2015 @ 17:53:00
Oricon is not a class quest. There are no class quests after 50. Any side content and expansions should be playable. I played through with the Oricon quest in my mission log and it never went away, I suspect you can still pick it up after as well but that would need to be verified.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 15:57:00
If you have 30% Class story Xp bonus…? So are XP booster up from 25%, or is this some new wonderous animal to stress over…?
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:01:00
legacy xp boosts give 6% each…there are 5.
do the maf!
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:21:00
Aaahahah…indeed…in my immeasurable excitement, I have completely overlooked and forgotten such things. Thanks! 😉
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:01:00
> 23 minutes
> 11 minutes
> 17 minutes
I heard a lot of promises of “1 hour of story per chapter” — lol, just remembered what company made those promises. Not surprised at all.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:07:00
Doesn’t it say “Cut Scene Length?” I think that’s the length of the cut scenes in the story -not counting game play.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:16:00
Devastation of countless mobs and push_three_buttons_on_the_each_corner_of_the_map-crap is not the “story”.
But okay, let it be “one hour of gameplay per chapter” as u implying and we find that BioFail made around 9 hours of a singleplayer mode on MMO engine for goddamn YEAR. And now they’re asking 20 dollars for this. Err, now i’m thinking they just cheated on people very hard.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:38:00
They aren’t asking for anything? It’s free to subs, and let’s face it, only subs matter.
Oct 22, 2015 @ 19:34:00
“Free for subscribers” is somewhat of a contradiction in itself, though…
Anyway, I’m quite happy with KOTFE so far.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 17:26:00
“Only watching cutscenes counts as game content!”
You’re a Metal Gear fan, right?
Oct 20, 2015 @ 18:22:00
Do you need a wambulance?
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:23:00
The critical thinking is not strong in this one…
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:13:00
Yeah, you misread that friend, but a simple mistake.
On another note, I’m waiting for the really obnoxious posts on the forum from people who space barred the cut scenes saying length it’s not as advertised. :/
Oct 20, 2015 @ 20:44:00
Even without space barring the chapters are no where near a hour.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:10:00
I am not subscribed currently – I don’t have early access. I was subscribed long enough to get Nico as my comp. Does ANYONE know if I can buy the first nine chapters on the 27th rather than having to stay subscriber in order to get ANYTHING? Or is this just BioWare’s biggest money sap ever?
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:15:00
If you are a sub by the 27th I believe you get the first 9 chapters.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:21:00
That’s what I mean. I don’t want to have to subscribe, I just want to purchase authorization. Something tells me you no longer have access once your subscription ends.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:29:00
I think they said you do keep access, but you won’t get the new chapters until you sub again, so I’d suggest either waiting ’till all chapters are released and subbing then or subbing for a month now and then when they’re all released. That’s my plan, as non-sub. I will have to wait ’till they’re all released, though.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:34:00
OK. I usually try not to subscribe and just purchase new expansions one time, but they’re making almost everything available to people who aren’t subbed.
I like that plan, though. Saves more money 😛
Oct 20, 2015 @ 17:14:00
Well, I would wait for confirmation that you really keep the chapters, ’cause it might have changed, but I’m deeply hoping for this option as well! Good luck and enjoy the expansion when you get it and 4.0 in general!
Oct 20, 2015 @ 18:38:00
We had 100% confirmation you keep the chapters months ago…
Oct 20, 2015 @ 20:03:00
“9. What if I unsubscribe from Star Wars: The Old Republic after October?
If you unsubscribe after October 27, 2015, you will keep the
first 9 Chapters of Knights of the Fallen Empire, but will not receive
any additional Chapters when they are released.”
“10. What if I don’t subscribe until all the Chapters are released?
If you subscribe after the launch of Knights of the
Fallen Empire, you will receive all the content that has been released
up to that date. However, as a subscriber you are eligible for great benefits that you don’t want to miss out on such as a monthly Cartel Coin grant and access to the full spectrum of character species.”
http://www.swtor.com/support/helpcenter/7418
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:37:00
If you aren’t subbed now, you won’t get anything chapter-wise-just Nico.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 18:06:00
You have To Be A Sub. If you sub you get the current chapters forever, but no following chapters if you unsub. So you can sub for a mo. get the first 9, unsub and then re-sub next year and get the next ch. and so on.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 16:15:00
Wait does this mean valkorion is a companion
Oct 20, 2015 @ 17:01:00
No, actually he isn’t. He’s DEAD, not ALIVE!!!!
Oct 20, 2015 @ 17:12:00
Is there a way to summon my companions before starting Chapter 1? They keep their chest pieces but walk around with no pants and boots in the cut scenes if you don’t re-equip them XD
Oct 20, 2015 @ 17:21:00
Any idea why I can’t start the missions? They don’t show up in my Mission Terminal. I subbed yesterday in the morning, and i’m able to earn XP after 60.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 17:24:00
you won’t get the chapters until next week…this week is for early access only. If you subbed yesterday you don’t qualify for early access.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 17:25:00
you cant for the early access you had to be subscibed all time fully between august 10th and october 19th
Oct 20, 2015 @ 17:27:00
Early access starts today. You had to be a sub from Aug 10th until Oct 19th to qualify. Otherwise you get access as a sub next Tuesday the 27th. Everyone see patch 4.0 today. That is why you’re getting exp.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 17:29:00
Ah alright thank you!
Oct 20, 2015 @ 18:01:00
What is your armor name ? I didn’t play for few months so i don’t know 🙂
Oct 20, 2015 @ 18:19:00
Thexan’s robe from cartel market
Oct 20, 2015 @ 18:05:00
SPOILER ALERT
{Someone know how to save darth marr? (Or is it possible?)}
Oct 20, 2015 @ 18:18:00
Not posssible currently but you will see more of him later on
Oct 20, 2015 @ 21:33:00
So this means he’s not dead? Still trying to find out if he will become a permanent companion at some point or if they’re killing him off.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 07:16:00
SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He appears in later chapters as a Force ghost, talking with another character I won’t name.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 18:29:00
where did the arkanian/dreadguard/underworld sets go? i cant find them
Oct 20, 2015 @ 18:37:00
Gone forever.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 18:46:00
hmm datamined stuff said it would still be around as with the name ”remnant” and as legacy gear… if its gone forever that sucks :p lol
Oct 20, 2015 @ 18:49:00
You can buy them from me, and other crafters who saw this coming, and learned the recipes.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 20:04:00
Yeah it will still be craftable but you can’t get the pieces to learn them anymore. You had to learn them before 4.0
Oct 20, 2015 @ 20:09:00
Yeah, already purchased stuff is. But the vendors are gone.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 03:58:00
Turning in Supply Crates to your specialists/advisors (Oggurob, Sana-rae, Hylo Visz, Admiral Aygo) will give you a randomly-selected piece of “classic” ops gear as an empty BoL shell.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 06:53:00
thats sweet
Oct 20, 2015 @ 19:01:00
Anyone else encountered the problem of mission not being able to launch, because a follower that is required is not available?
I can´t get chapter 4 started, went to fleet before talking to Koth and now i can´t get back.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 19:11:00
Finally, a light side Hunter Killer! Where were you during all of my many empire character’s stories?!
Oct 20, 2015 @ 19:17:00
Um I the only one who was a subscribe between Aug 10th until Oct 19th and havent recieved anything …
Oct 20, 2015 @ 19:25:00
contact bioware
Oct 20, 2015 @ 19:48:00
I didn’t get my gifts too. And i want Nico so badly.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 19:51:00
They just did a Dev post saying they found a billing error and corrected it. They said if you think you should’ve had Early access to try logging out and back in (A full logout, not just to character select.) If you still don’t have it but think you should, contact CS so they can review your account.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 20:17:00
I am still waiting on the Alliance blog they said would be out by now. Meant to explain to us how the Alliance is recruited and expected to work.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 07:11:00
http://www.swtor.com/info/news/blog/20151020-0
Oct 21, 2015 @ 08:56:00
Yeah i found the info i needed here on Dulfy’s website.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 20:19:00
I did the missions on Ziost planet. Now back on ship and no purple icon! Anyone else?
Oct 20, 2015 @ 20:29:00
Sorry cant help ya mate. I dont have early access.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 20:47:00
So why say anything?
Oct 20, 2015 @ 21:07:00
Because i would like to help, but i am unable to.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 02:42:00
Still doesn’t explain why you said anything. So you just said ” I can’t help” so that he would know you can’t help. That was very helpful. I’m sure he appreciates it.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 07:14:00
You having completed Ziost shouldn’t even matter, actually. At level 60, the mission terminal in your ship should allow you to start Chapter I, regardless of whether or not you’ve finished any of the SoR content.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 21:10:00
Im confused about something, lets say that i play a Sith Warrior and a SW companion (Vette, Quinn, Pierce) dies or rejects me during Knights of the Fallen Empire. Can I still use them for stuff outside of KOTFE like solo flashpoints?
Oct 20, 2015 @ 22:28:00
Yes
Oct 21, 2015 @ 02:26:00
oh really
Oct 20, 2015 @ 22:29:00
Does anyone have an issue of the game showing 0.0% downloaded once you launch it? I’ve got everything downloaded the game just won’t recognize it. Or doesn’t seem to be
Oct 21, 2015 @ 02:26:00
go to the swtor file and change the speed and change false to true
Oct 22, 2015 @ 09:13:00
For me restarting the game helped, did you try that?
Oct 20, 2015 @ 22:31:00
Dulfy, I have to ask, you upload these videos so fast, but do you even have time to enjoy it?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 02:26:00
I wish she could tho… because “it’ all about story”
Oct 20, 2015 @ 22:49:00
so much for the 1 hour claim that bioware claimed…..23 minutes like really dufly? did you spacebar it?
Oct 20, 2015 @ 23:10:00
lol.
Just… lol.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 02:25:00
OMG DULFY=FAST PLAYER 😀
Oct 20, 2015 @ 23:13:00
That is the length of the cutscenes if you read it correctly.
It’s been over 9 hours, and she’s been posting them as she goes along.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 00:29:00
if you watch everything+combat it’ll take you roughly 6-7 hours to complete
Oct 21, 2015 @ 21:12:00
No a lot of the chapters are just that short if you don’t mess around.
Oct 20, 2015 @ 23:16:00
Question….where do you go to get the recruitment mission for Nico Okarr? I am finished with Chap 9 and i still can not find it.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 00:35:00
Check your mailbox.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 00:38:00
I was under the impression that the clickable in the inbox just gave you the comp…and that it wasnt actually the Recruitment mission (to give people options). Is that not so?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 17:12:00
Whoops – I apologize; I misread your question. Also, Dulfy has already helped out more than I ever could have, so happy blasting!
Oct 21, 2015 @ 00:42:00
Recruitment mission for Nico appears when you complete To Find A Findsman to acquire Yuun
Oct 21, 2015 @ 00:44:00
Thank you for the info…i was actually about to start that now to test it. As always you are a great help
Oct 21, 2015 @ 00:39:00
Why did I lose nearly all my skills when I started The hunt? IS that right?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 00:44:00
Go to you preferences and it will allow you to take the tutorial mode off, thus gaining all of your skills.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 00:46:00
So I activated the new Akk Dog Companion prior to starting the expansion – He vanished after I started it and, unlike Nico, doesn’t seem to come back. Greatly distressing. Anyone know if this is an issue?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 02:25:00
Chill bro, either make a ticket or just wait for a few days (weeks) before bioware realize they made an ultimate mistake…
Oct 21, 2015 @ 03:04:00
Known issue, same thing with your old companions
Oct 21, 2015 @ 01:17:00
Is there some way to change the outfits for Lana, Koth, etc?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 02:24:00
Nope. Just the original companions, as musco stated before, for example Darth Marr’s armor cannot be changed
Oct 21, 2015 @ 02:26:00
Marr makes sense since his face can never be seen, but that’s kinda dumb about the rest especially since Lana’s vintage outfit is in the CM, so it would make a lot of sense for her to be able to wear it
Oct 21, 2015 @ 02:30:00
well what you said kinda made sense…
Oct 21, 2015 @ 21:10:00
Nope all the new companions use high res textures so you can’t till they release actual customizations.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 02:14:00
So, considering everything I saw, does HK-55 have only one fate, or I can start scrapping my main and search for a new one? 🙁
Oct 21, 2015 @ 02:23:00
no idea but it would be cool if hk51 and hk55 fight together and become friends 😀
Oct 21, 2015 @ 02:23:00
ohh wow… the Devs are now ‘restraining’ me to watch the WHOLE CUTSCENE unless i want my companions to die??
Well.. at least I Could slow down myself and enjoy a bit of this game 😀
Oct 21, 2015 @ 02:27:00
oh I could level up without doing side missions for strangers now? HOW NICE
Oct 21, 2015 @ 04:49:00
“They will either approval or disapprove of your choices and you gain amounts of influence”
Pretty sure you meant “approve or disapprove”, Dulfy 🙂
Oct 21, 2015 @ 05:15:00
“you can finish the story in about 6-7 hrs watching cutscenes” gee thanks bioware…
Oct 21, 2015 @ 06:34:00
Compared to the rest of the games previous expansion content, that is much longer, as well as the cut scenes being very well done and long. People like you would complain about free money.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 07:10:00
Well said. Haha
Oct 21, 2015 @ 21:08:00
Not really as they focused purely on the story for this expansion vs the others that had additional content.
Nov 03, 2015 @ 17:45:00
The cut scenes were much longer for sure. The fighting was so watered down it got boring for me. Watch 30 minutes of cut scenes > Face roll keyboard for 5 minutes > rinse and repeat. I bet an animal walking on the keyboard could complete the expansion in 7-10 hours.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 09:46:00
With the stuff you do between them, the time accumulates, not to mention that not everyone can or wants to be holed up in thier “chambers” all day to do the expansion in one go. ^^
Nov 03, 2015 @ 17:43:00
Not rushing I finished this in 7 hours on my first run. This is with answering the door for delivery and bathroom/water breaks. Very disappointing.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 07:12:00
Dulfy, do you plan on doing a guide on the Alliance building missions that take place after Chapter IX?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 08:01:00
So marr isnt a companion?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 08:06:00
Nope, he was a companion for 10 minutes in the first chapter. After that is… :/
Oct 21, 2015 @ 10:28:00
Why does it say are you sure about doing the mission, what happens if you start it, are there things you can not do once you start KotFE?.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 10:33:00
Class stories etc cannot be finished once you start KoTFE
Oct 21, 2015 @ 11:13:00
When is chapter 10 coming?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 21:06:00
January 2016
Oct 21, 2015 @ 12:03:00
Hmm, reading through the dialogs for the Cantina part of chapter 9, it seems that you can “begin romance” with both Lana and Koth, but no such option for Theron?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 13:03:00
If you had romanced Theron in Forged Alliances/Shadow of Revan then you get a special scene with him where you can commit to a romance with him. I did anyways.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 13:58:00
Oh, that is GOOD to know, thank you!
Oct 21, 2015 @ 13:50:00
Just a note: in chapter 8 when (SPOILER!) you use valkie’s power to kill mask-face, if you deny him, he will greatly disapprove and dismiss your choice not to, and take control of your body anyway IF you had used his power before. I used it to (spoiler) save Lana in chapter 4 and (spoiler) fight Heskal in… I don’t even remember. If you use his power two times, he will force you to use it a third time.
Nov 18, 2015 @ 08:12:00
Yup. happened to me too. Did both those choices which made him dismissed my choice :/
Oct 21, 2015 @ 13:54:00
Is it only me that’s getting killed by campfires on the ship in the beginning of The Hunt continuously? Even with Marr healing me it will just kill me outright after a certain time, that time not being long enough to move and fight much of anything.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 17:00:00
Campfires on the ship? No one is camping there. Contrary to what Duran Duran may tell you don’t dance into the fire, easy fix.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 14:56:00
Oh man, i cannot click the shuttle on the “Take Shuttle to Zakuul” mission
Oct 21, 2015 @ 23:10:00
I can’t either! so frustrating!
Oct 21, 2015 @ 15:16:00
When you 1st meet Valky and your character and Marr talk about a familiar presence, all I could think was: “I knew it, Kephess!”
Nov 03, 2015 @ 17:39:00
I lol’d
Oct 21, 2015 @ 16:10:00
Question: Will SoR become free-to-VIP on the 27th? I’ve been saving my refferal code potential 7 day sub for the possibility that i might get SoR + KOTFE without another microtransaction.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 16:58:00
I don’t think a free 7 day sub will qualify you for KotFE.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 22:00:00
Wow, cheap much?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 17:24:00
Where is Senya located in chater 9? i can’t find her =/
Oct 21, 2015 @ 17:26:00
Go to military hanger, use the door to get to your persona ship, she is next to it.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 17:29:00
yay ty! i was looking for her outside, thought she wasnt inside the phase XD
Oct 21, 2015 @ 17:57:00
So I was in a group finder que during chapter 8 (escaping to gravestone part) and I joined it, now I’m in the fleet and there is no way for me to return..any help?
Oct 22, 2015 @ 02:53:00
Believe there is a tab you click to go back and it should teleport you there.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 18:41:00
Love the story and storytelling of new expansions but hate all the recent unnecessary changes that continue to happen and turn Swtor from a true RPG into something that is more simpler, casual, and limited when it comes to game’s choices,leveling, progression, and even some changes hurting some of the immersion as they continue to strip away even more RPG elements from Swtor. Clearly they catering more to the PvPers who could care less about important RPG elements and factors like progression, immersion, and etc. companions use to be more unique and fulfill different roles for example now they all can play any role making them pretty much lifeless and the same and you can no longer gear them either making them nothing but a skin and easy mode for players who were lazy or didn’t like to actually have to maintain their companions in order for them to be productive.
Also with new Discplines and leveling system you know longer can develop and build your character the way you like and could before with advanced classes and now with Discplines it prevents players from building Hybrid builds while also progressing and leveling your character for you versus having to choose for yourself like before. so now everyone has less choice and is pretty much the same when choosing same discipline as only thing sets anyone aside then would be utilities which still is nowhere as it was before.Don’t get me wrong I don’t exactly believe most of the recent changes are a caee of them just catering to PvPers but more or less devs designing the MMO to be easier for them to maintain both work wise and cost wise as well because they could easily have separated PvE and PVP like GW2 did by now and kept both sides happy but didn’t and haven’t because they had other ideas in mind and ones that make their jobs easier and lower costs of maintaining the MMO as well.
They could have developed a design that makes everyone happy but that would take more time meaning more work and more money so they continue to pick the easy way out all the time even with crew skills instead of fixing the bad crew skills they nerf the couple that are actually any good therefo making all crew skills just as bad as one another so no one can say any are better then one another versus doing it right and actually fixing the crew skills that needed some revising. Honestly it’s our faults because as long as they can profit from the cartel market/cash shop they will continue to do this’s stead of taking the time to do things right. No such thing as bad game only bad design and anything is possible if they willing do the work take the time and spend the money.
Oct 23, 2015 @ 05:40:00
so stupid..this game has no love for pvpers since 2 years ago pops are empty and dead blaming pvper’s that are all gone from this game makes you look like a fool.
Oct 23, 2015 @ 12:51:00
Actually the skills that can make armor got a major buff. They can now learn to make gear equivalent to hard mode gear.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 18:43:00
Who else came on after the patch to find all their companions had lost their pants?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 18:52:00
I just assumed they’d had a party and forgot to invite me.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 20:17:00
hehe I was like… WTH
Oct 21, 2015 @ 19:02:00
*Raises hand*
Oct 21, 2015 @ 19:22:00
Star Wars: Knights of the Fallen Pants
Oct 22, 2015 @ 00:44:00
LOOOOOOL!!! Yes, exactly! When I first logged on my chars all my comps’ pants where in Inventory… JUST the pants!!! WTF?!?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 20:16:00
I would like to know what happens when Trooper finds Tanno Vik and when Agent finds scorpio, got any vids ppl?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 20:48:00
I tried on both but didn’t record it. Tanno Vik was like you being gone too long, I am no longer part of Havoc squad. You can kill him too on a trooper
Oct 23, 2015 @ 02:34:00
Wrong place for it I know, but the gree vendor has 6 new decos (3 art, 1 gree NPC, 1 (non-art) wall deco, and one…pillar…thing) added, and the schematics for the crystal of nightmare fury. Didn’t see the info anywhere yet, so thought I’d let you know if you didn’t already.
Oct 23, 2015 @ 15:02:00
Why would you mention that here on a random post instead of in the decorations section?
Oct 23, 2015 @ 15:05:00
Because I couldn’t find it?
Oct 24, 2015 @ 00:08:00
http://tor-decorating.com/?s=gree
Oct 24, 2015 @ 01:12:00
That’s not a dulfy site though, is it?
Oct 31, 2015 @ 15:04:00
Yes it is. There’s a link to it at the top of Dulfy.net
Oct 22, 2015 @ 02:52:00
Agent makes comments with and on Scorpio and Lana instead asks “Your worked with Scorpio before can we trust her” instead.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 20:22:00
Anyone can help? I have my instant lvl 60 character, but i cant go to any old planets except tatoine..why? Also i finished story..and im sad, i cant go event to fleet..
Oct 21, 2015 @ 20:27:00
even* , so i cant do anything, including old ops….only in gf
Oct 23, 2015 @ 12:47:00
Did you try going to your stronghold and then exiting to fleet? Just a thought.
Oct 24, 2015 @ 10:21:00
Its OK now, they repaired It with that small patch that was
Oct 21, 2015 @ 21:11:00
Hey Dulfy – Any Guide to avoid Companion perma-deaths?
Oct 21, 2015 @ 21:28:00
You can’t avoid them. There is no way to save those companions
Oct 21, 2015 @ 21:35:00
So there’s no way to save the person who goes later in the game? Being vague to avoid spoiling anyone.
Oct 21, 2015 @ 21:50:00
If you are talking about the guy I am thinking, not currently but remember not all of them are organic living beings.and those not can be rebuilt maybe
Dec 17, 2015 @ 09:10:00
Dec 17, 2015 @ 09:09:00
well, if you’re a subscriber on jan 11th, apparently you can save them….
Oct 22, 2015 @ 00:44:00
Don’t want to spoil so things but asking for guidance gets pretty vague. I kinda know there are some you can’t avoid…for the story, but what about the ones you really want to keep? Or is it some BS and your choices don’t really matter. I guess an non spoiler example is needed. Don’t want to mess up and they Gone Forever. I would really be PO.
Oct 23, 2015 @ 17:21:00
You mean my classic companions won’t be available even after Chapter 8 with that terminal during KOTFE story because they died in vision? Or they didn’t really die? I’m not good at Force Visions Philosophy.
Oct 23, 2015 @ 17:46:00
It’s better if you play through and find out. I think it’s fairly safe to say (without spoiling) that no one you were previously fond of/attached to dies during the course of the expansion story, at least not without you making an active choice for it to happen.
Oct 23, 2015 @ 18:14:00
Oh that is just a dream, you will get your classic companions back when they fix the bug with the terminal
Oct 21, 2015 @ 22:28:00
Anybody know if you reject Valkorians request to help save Lana will she be killed?
Oct 22, 2015 @ 02:50:00
Injured, not killed.
Oct 22, 2015 @ 05:08:00
Thanks. This is what i was trying to ask without spoiling anything.
Oct 23, 2015 @ 17:01:00
I rejected the help. Didn’t care if she died. I’m loyal to my little China Doll.
Was that racist?
Nov 03, 2015 @ 16:51:00
Choices don’t matter same as always. There are very minor differences but the overall is it’s the same result. Like Valkorian says, “choice is an illusion”
Oct 21, 2015 @ 22:33:00
Would love to know if Jaesa shows up for SW and is romance-able as a female. Also would love to kill Quinn. I assume only Lana is half-way romance-able like in the previous patches.
Oct 22, 2015 @ 02:50:00
No, i believe they are gonna make Lana a full on romance. “If you romance Lana and have an old relationship they won’t be happy” so its a full romance this time ^.^. Also i hope they at least make light side Jaesa romancable don’t like crazy lets murder them all Jaesa.
Oct 22, 2015 @ 20:39:00
you can still tell her to have babies with you if she’s light and she will agree to pass her gift into your legacy. 😉
Oct 22, 2015 @ 02:54:00
Can you still esc out of conversations?
Oct 22, 2015 @ 03:39:00
yes
Oct 22, 2015 @ 09:24:00
I take it you cant disable these IMO lame classic cutscenes? And your toon not taking in them. Lame.
Oct 22, 2015 @ 12:18:00
Is that Kaliyo on the Pic for Chapter 10 or any other Ratataki ? If she play a role in the Story i think we will not see her as a companion for a longer time now…
Oct 23, 2015 @ 10:09:00
It’s damn near certain to be Kaliyo. The descriptor ‘anarchist’ says as much.
Oct 22, 2015 @ 13:07:00
Remind me, when did they say the next chapter would be released?
Oct 22, 2015 @ 17:55:00
January 2016…
Oct 22, 2015 @ 15:25:00
Hey Dulfy, are you going to show both romances for lana and theron?
Oct 22, 2015 @ 23:20:00
Are there lore objects in these chapters that we need to keep an eye out for?
Oct 22, 2015 @ 23:23:00
Nope
Oct 23, 2015 @ 19:41:00
Actully that is wrong,There is one of the missions where you fight that Zakuul protocol droid after destroying 2 of the generators at each sides and mobs keep coming out of elevators in that chapter and on that place theres a datapad you can interact with and starts with something speaking about the awe of combat or such thing which after you activate gives you a lore thing
Oct 25, 2015 @ 21:52:00
Micky Ceaser its about star fortress
only 2 datalog In chapters
see here http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=654989&page=40
the gravestone’s creators [in gravestone after your repair door to angar you find datalog(chapter 5)]
commerce in the free zone [on Asylum alley before entrance in scions house(chapter 6) find datapad]
* you can really miss it if already finish story (I miss it too)
BUT you can open it on same character – 2 ways
1) use 2 Computer log in second account (maybe friend or family) and when any character be in 5 and 6 chapter summon your main character where you want this lore
2) simple find any who do 5 and 6 chapter now and ask join he. he can summon you
Oct 26, 2015 @ 14:23:00
there is a lore object just before you meet senya where once you walk through the door HK gets disabled. If you go left before going right to meet senya there is a lore object on the one bed. FYI
Oct 23, 2015 @ 21:10:00
there is a lore item called datalog in the hangar bay after you find the 4 tools to fix the door. not sure if you can eventually access it later
Oct 23, 2015 @ 15:40:00
Wow the rewards are so crappy, I thought you would end up in better gear then 190 green.
How is it they made a whole new xpac and give you worse gear then the pre story Ziost rewards.
Oct 28, 2015 @ 14:42:00
I actually got a purple like 206 drop.. just one.. so there is definitely better gear out there. Unfortunately it was bid on pickup and not for my Class so I had to sell it, bu they do exist.
Oct 23, 2015 @ 20:53:00
IF you do the instant level 60 Jugg, which version of Jaesa do they give you later?
Oct 24, 2015 @ 01:47:00
Instant level 60’s on empire are all Darkside choices
Oct 25, 2015 @ 05:49:00
Wish there was a way to chose some of the major decisions for our insta-60s
Oct 27, 2015 @ 20:22:00
Actually my free 60 I made an Inquisitor and they call her by the lightside Darth title of Imperius, not Nox which is the darkside Darth title.
Oct 24, 2015 @ 11:06:00
So is there an option to keep HK-55 alive or is his death scripted regardless either way? Cos I went LS and refused Valkorian’s help and figured that was why I lost HK, if so that sucks he’s much better than 51.
Oct 24, 2015 @ 21:50:00
I don’t believe there is, but his character note says that, “There SEEMS to be no way of reviving him” (emphasis mine). I took Valkorion’s power because why the fuck not, and he still got fried because Arcann is a bitch.
BioWare loves to leave things open ended and bring characters back as much as they do have that one companion betray you every time or give you moral choices.
Oct 25, 2015 @ 00:27:00
Ah that’s a good point, and I suppose it’s possible Arcaan might find a way to reactivate him or something. Also had to laugh at your because Arcann is a bitch comment 😛
Well it was my Jedi so I refused to keep the light side path going, plus I’m looking on it the more I’d take his power the easier it is for him to take control in the future is my guess.
I do like what they’ve done with him though as a character, like this whole other side to him as Valkorion, from what Senya and Koth had said he was like compared to how we knew him as the Emperor, it at least made me wonder what he would have been like if the Republic/Empire, Jedi/Sith hadn’t been around since neither were around where he did what he did with Zakuul.
Oct 25, 2015 @ 20:42:00
HK-55 is by far the most agreeable HK i’ve ever seen. I hope they bring him back, and i double hope they allow us to use HK-51’s customizations on him.
Oct 26, 2015 @ 16:21:00
HK-47 died and came back at least twice in SWTOR alone, so there’s certainly precedent for rebuilding defeated HK’s. I’d say the chances are pretty high that the next time we see HK-55, he’s going to be working for a new employer, and be happy to see you for the wrong reasons.
Oct 28, 2015 @ 22:11:00
we haven’t even seen all the chapters so far…
plus, he is too cheerful. on chapter 7 when he keeps talking about bug-killing got on my nerves…
HK-51 and 47 are way better, unless someone fix him
Oct 24, 2015 @ 21:50:00
Anyone know if female toons can flirt with Senya, or is it just males, and do they have fewer options to do so? She’s a bamf.
Oct 26, 2015 @ 08:15:00
females can flirt too
Oct 26, 2015 @ 08:16:00
little thing. when talking to hylo visz as a bounty hunter you can mention guess
Oct 26, 2015 @ 16:23:00
I like the story, I just wish the majority of the action was not “Oh no! Three sky troopers are blocking my path!” A few more puzzles or “find an alternate way to beat the boss” encounters would have been welcome.
Oct 27, 2015 @ 04:08:00
How does grouping work for these quests? Can my wife duo it by going back in for the other person like class quests?
Oct 28, 2015 @ 22:59:00
Many of the areas are instanced, meaning that only either you OR your wife may make progress in their missions, even if you are in the same instance.
You can do it (there is even a convenient ‘summon group member to your position’ feature), but doing so means that you will cover much of the content twice.
Oct 27, 2015 @ 14:53:00
When I first met HK-55 (C3) I got the chance to say he looked familiar. I’m on my toon which has a HK-51
Oct 29, 2015 @ 01:13:00
So what did Revan say at Maelstrom?
“I led my allies to the edge of the galaxy to detroy the Emperor. We didn’t understand his true power.”
“I lost everyone…betrayed from within. The Emperor imprisoned me, kept me alive with Sith alchemy..used me.”
So the story leads just to another Revan.
Nov 03, 2015 @ 17:55:00
Interesting observation.
Nov 23, 2015 @ 14:09:00
You know, after playing the expansion from both sides (Rep and Imp) I see your point and, sadly, that is not a good omen for my characters…
Oct 29, 2015 @ 22:14:00
Ok, there’s my question: do you have to be a subscriber in order to begin Fallen Empire quest line? I am not and I can’t find the purple icon to start the story on my ship! I tried with all my character and I still can’t find that icon! I got all the rewards (Nico Okarr’s dustacoat, Niko Okarr’s guns, Niko Okarr) as well as the old companions’ gear. I just can’t start the quest line!
Oct 30, 2015 @ 00:42:00
yes, you have to be a subscriber
Oct 30, 2015 @ 07:23:00
So… playing all alone in a interactive movie is the future of MMOs for BioWare?
Nov 03, 2015 @ 17:00:00
The future of MMOs died back in 2012. Now they are just floating above water with stuff SWTOR did best.
Nov 03, 2015 @ 17:54:00
Apparently… I can’t see how anyone would feel this is worth an ongoing sub.
Nov 13, 2015 @ 06:57:00
This is Bioware actually doing what they are good at instead of trying to one-up stuff that has already been done better. Story is what SWTOR is actually good for. It IS a Bioware game.
If you want good raids or good pvp and are not satisfied with that SWTOR can offer in those areas, then you might want to reconsider your choice of MMOs.
Nov 04, 2015 @ 11:56:00
Thanks for the guide, I am really enjoying coming back to play the Fallen Empire and the changes BioWare made so far 😉
Nov 15, 2015 @ 06:52:00
I can’t find terminal on my ship I’m 60 and a sub who used referral link
Nov 17, 2015 @ 13:20:00
after playing kofte, now i can finally check out this part and see the choices YOU made..
Nov 19, 2015 @ 07:32:00
Chapter 2 still crashes on me.
Nov 27, 2015 @ 09:44:00
Cheers for this dulfy
Jan 03, 2016 @ 18:26:00
Does anyone know why it won’t let players “share” these quests while grouped?
Jan 17, 2016 @ 18:17:00
Because it’s not supposed to be shared. Firstly, those are chain quests, secondly, they are in “PERSONAL phases”, not “group phases”.
Jan 17, 2016 @ 20:12:00
That makes sense, though it kind of takes the “M” out of MMO
Jan 18, 2016 @ 00:09:00
I think they’d have to make the story much more narrow, if it was meant for groups. Also: Who would the NPCs like Senya follow when outside of cutscenes? Random group member? Group leader? A Senya for each of them?
Jan 05, 2016 @ 17:35:00
The note in the Hylo Visz’s mission Underground Logistics is not right. As a Jedi Knight I choose option 2 – Just stopping by to have a look at things and while Hylo was intrigued I ended up with 0 Influence with Hylo. You should change the note that any choice gets you +200 Influence. Everything else has been good. Thanks for the walkthru.
Jan 14, 2016 @ 15:49:00
I am stuck on chapter 4 Speak to HK-55 have go to gravestone and i go there but noting happens everything is locked and no HK-55 help me please
Jan 15, 2016 @ 14:52:00
Did you click on the activation pod next to the tent? It isn’t really visible unless you go around the tent.
Jan 22, 2018 @ 21:30:00
I had issues with not being able to click on the big battery after getting the ship parts. It wouldn’t work for me because I had sent Koth on an Scavenging Mission so he was unavailable. I had reset the quest, and made sure no one was on any side missions and no issue. Hope this helps.
Jan 20, 2016 @ 16:49:00
I wonder if you choose “let him go” during your escape in Chapter 3, if the fight (and/or convo afterwards) before meeting the Lady of Sorrows in chapter 7 would play out differently? or would it matter?
Feb 07, 2016 @ 07:33:00
I chose let him go, How did your story play out?
Feb 11, 2016 @ 20:57:00
i let lana have her way in chap 3, but ran into the guy that ran off before meeting the lady of sorrows in chap 7. need to play it on another toon or 2 to find out all the different branching paths
Feb 13, 2016 @ 18:27:00
It doesnt matter – in ch3 Tanek dies or from Lana or from Vay – in both cases shame on us.
Mar 22, 2016 @ 00:22:00
What level does the mission appear in your mission terminal?
Apr 11, 2016 @ 20:39:00
Not sure this is relevant, but since I have been through KotFE with all eight classes, here are the individuals you face in the “destroyed” capital part of your dream (Chapter 2)
Both Jedi face Satele Shan. The Sith classes get Darth Marr. Agent gets Darth Jadus, while Trooper gets Gen. Garza. Smuggler fights Nok Drayan. And the Bounty Hunter faces Mandalore.
Jun 23, 2016 @ 15:59:00
Not sure if this has been asked before but does anyone know why torian is not there in chapter 1 as a female bounty hunter who romanced him?
Sep 29, 2016 @ 02:57:00
I can’t begin the mission. There’s a purple mission in my log but when I click on the mission giver in my ship it says “Not eligible for this conversation” Any help?
Nov 06, 2016 @ 21:42:00
You’r find à solution because i’ve thé same problème ?
Nov 21, 2016 @ 14:42:00
you may have active phases or another active quest that is preventing you from starting this one. (if i recall correctly) can right click your char image and there’s an option for resetting all phases. i’d then look through you’re other quests, see if there’s some other mission, that’s progression based, that’s not complete. …ie could purge your quest log of everything, eliminate those possibilities
Jan 18, 2017 @ 09:21:00
Same problem – i have done the mission with 3 pub characters on the server, yet when i get my agent to the ship, i get the “not eligible…” line. 😐
Jan 18, 2017 @ 18:02:00
i found a solution – though not direct > take your character to level 70, open galactic command and play chapter 1 directly from there – hope this helps!
Mar 27, 2017 @ 20:27:00
Chapter 6 – Lore Object datapad in the alley where you meet Senya.
May 29, 2017 @ 21:11:00
Just came back to the game after a long hiatus.
I finished all chapters but I’m seeing “The Hunt” on my console consistently. I may be rusty but – just to be sure – I played it again and it’s still there.
Is this just something that will stay as a repeatable mission or am I missing something?
You’d think being a subscriber since 2012, I would know better but my break was a year long and I feel lost as hell now. :-/
Aug 29, 2017 @ 06:15:00
same here w/my lv VG did we miss something that may have jumped the Story Line
Aug 29, 2017 @ 06:16:00
My Lv 70^
Feb 27, 2018 @ 03:51:00
I just read a post from a Dev. named Keith in which he mentions something about Mako’s return… did I miss read or does something happen upon completion of chapter 9 that I should know about?
Mar 23, 2019 @ 08:00:00
I just love Valkorion’s voice actor