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SWTOR Game Update 4.5 Patch Notes

SWTOR Patch Notes for Game Updater 4.5 which will arrive on June 1, 2016 after the maintenance (5 to 9 am PST).

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Highlights

  • Chapter XIV: Mandalore’s Revenge! Join forces with Shae Vizla and a fearsome Mandalorian army in a heated battle to unlock the secrets of the Eternal Fleet. Players subscribed on June 1st have immediate access to this new Chapter, and it will be available for all other Subscribers on June 3rd.
  • New Alliance Alert: The Last of His Kind! Talz mercenary Broonmark has been hunting a Wookiee diplomat on Alderaan. Will you sway him to join your Alliance or put an end to his murderous ways for good?
  • Bounty Contract Week Returns! Hunt wanted criminals in this returning event. The event begins June 14th at 04:00 PST/12:00 GMT and ends June 21st at 04:00 PST/12:00 GMT.

General

  • Fixed a bug that caused players to be unable to remove Modifications from equipment.
  • The weapons awarded at the end of Chapter XII now have Weapon Tuning slots.
  • Fixed an issue where Smugglers and Bounty Hunters were not getting credit for completing Act 3 if certain conversation choices were made during the final Missions.
  • New Legacy Perk: Legacy Cargo Hold! Unlocks a Legacy cargo hold on your personal ship.
  • New Legacy Perk: Item Modification Station! Unlocks an Item Modification Station on your personal ship.
  • Legacy Cargo Hold: An additional storage tab may now be purchased for the Legacy Cargo Hold.
  • Numerous Item Modification Stations have been added to both the Imperial and Republic Fleets.
  • A Quick Travel point has been added to the Cartel Bazaar on both the Imperial and Republic Fleets.

Cartel Market

  • Companion Customizations for Companions obtained via Cartel Packs can now be purchased from the new vendor Tsorkeg in the Cartel Bazaar on both the Imperial and Republic Fleets.
  • The Appearance Options: Human Hairstyles 1 bundle now unlocks Hairstyle options for Cyborg, Chiss, Mirialan, Sith and Miraluka species in addition to Humans. Additionally, these hairstyles that were previously only available to humans to purchase at Appearance Modification stations may now be purchased by Cyborg, Chiss, Mirialan, Sith and Miraluka species.
  • The Appearance Options: Human Hair Colors 1 bundle now unlocks Hair Color options for Cyborgs in addition to Humans.
  • New Togruta customization options have been added! These are available to all players via Character Select or Appearance Modification Stations.

Classes + Combat

Jedi Consular
Sage

  • Benevolence now has a base cost of 70 Force (up from 55 Force) and heals for slightly more (.49%).
  • Rejuvenate now has a base cost of 40 Force (up from 30 Force) and heals for a bit more (4.94% for the instant heal, and 3.70% for the heal over time.).
  • Force Armor now has a base cost of 45 Force (up from 35 Force) and absorbs slightly more damage (1.43%).

Seer
Designer Note: Seer Sages are presently exceptional healers who outperform the other healing disciplines in the game and create unbalanced PvE and PvP scenarios. By increasing the Force costs of heals—and counterbalancing the cost increase with a slight healing boost—we are leveling the healing potential of the Seer Sage to better fit alongside other healing disciplines and combat encounters witnessed in game.

Some may wonder why we did not just increase the healing capabilities of the other healing disciplines in the game to match that of the Seer Sage. In this instance, we could not do that because all of the combat math for the game (both PvE and PvP) is balanced around the current healing capabilities of the other healing disciplines. So if we were to increase the healing capabilities of the other healing disciplines to match the healing capabilities of the Seer Sage, then healing would be more effective than intended, which would cause problems in both PvE and PvP.

We decided to increase Force costs and slightly improve the strength of individual healing abilities in this balancing initiative to prevent Seer Sages from feeling impotent following these changes. Burst healing should feel like what is on Live, yet the sustained healing experience will be notably decreased. This design lowers the average healing output of the Seer Sage to better match other healing disciplines while still allowing the Sage’s individual heals to make an impact.

  • Deliverance now has a base cost of 45 Force (up from 37) and heals for a bit more (3.25%).
  • Healing Trance now has a base cost of 60 Force (up from 48) and heals for a bit more (4.04%).
  • Salvation now has a base cost of 75 Force (up from 60).
  • Wandering Mend now has a base cost of 65 Force (up from 50) and heals for slightly more (1.28%).
  • The healing done by Renewal has been increased (by 3.70%) to match the healing done by the heal over time portion of Rejuvenate.
  • Clairvoyance now increases your bonus healing by 3% (down from 5%)

Balance

  • The radius of Force in Balance has been reduced to 5 meters (down from 8 meters).Designer Note: Force in Balance’s instant AoE damage and DoT spread potential is currently too effective in PvE and PvP. We are reducing the radius to 5 meters to match all other instant damaging AoE abilities in game.
  • Focused Insight now increases the life redistributed by Weaken Mind and Sever Force by 10% (down from 25%).Designer Note: Balance Sage self-healing is currently too effective in PvE and PvP scenarios. We’ve reduced the life redistributed by Weaken Mind and Sever Force to better match the self-preservation of similar disciplines.
  • Fixed an issue where Mind’s Eye allowed one Sage’s Weaken Mind effect to cause any Sage’s Force Serenity damage to be increased on that target.

Shadow
Serenity

  • The radius of Force in Balance has been reduced to 5 meters (down from 8 meters).

Sith Inquisitor
Sorcerer

  • Dark Heal now has a base cost of 70 Force (up from 55 Force) and heals for slightly more (.49%).
  • Resurgence now has a base cost of 40 Force (up from 30 Force) and heals for a bit more (4.94% for the instant heal, and 3.70% for the heal over time.).
  • Static Barrier now has a base cost of 45 Force (up from 35 Force) and absorbs slightly more damage (1.43%).

Corruption
Designer Note: Corruption Sorcerers are presently exceptional healers who outperform the other healing disciplines in the game and create unbalanced PvE and PvP scenarios. By increasing the Force costs of heals—and counterbalancing the cost increase with a slight healing boost—we are leveling the healing potential of the Corruption Sorcerer to better fit alongside other healing disciplines and combat encounters witnessed in game.
Some may wonder why we did not just increase the healing capabilities of the other healing disciplines in the game to match that of the Corruption Sorcerer. In this instance, we could not do that because all of the combat math for the game (both PvE and PvP) is balanced around the current healing capabilities of the other healing disciplines. So if we were to increase the healing capabilities of the other healing disciplines to match the healing capabilities of the Corruption Sorcerer, then healing would be more effective than intended, which would cause problems in both PvE and PvP.
We decided to increase Force costs and slightly improve the strength of individual healing abilities in this balancing initiative to prevent Corruption Sorcerers from feeling impotent following these changes. Burst healing should feel like what is on Live, yet the sustained healing experience will be notably decreased. This design lowers the average healing output of the Corruption Sorcerer to better match other healing disciplines while still allowing the Sorcerer’s individual heals to make an impact.

  • Dark Infusion now has a base cost of 45 Force (up from 37) and heals for a bit more (3.25%).
  • Innervate now has a base cost of 60 Force (up from 48) and heals for a bit more (4.04%).
  • Revivification now has a base cost of 75 Force (up from 60).
  • Roaming Mend now has a base cost of 65 Force (up from 50) and heals for slightly more (1.28%).
  • The healing done by Renewal has been increased (by 3.70%) to match the healing done by the heal over time portion of Resurgence.
  • Penetrating Darkness now increases your bonus healing by 3% (down from 5%)

Madness

  • The radius of Death Field has been reduced to 5 meters (down from 8 meters). Designer Note: Death Field’s instant AoE damage and DoT spread potential is currently too effective in PvE and PvP. We are reducing the radius to 5 meters to match all other instant damaging AoE abilities in game.
  • Parasitism now causes Affliction and Creeping Terror to heal you for 10% of the damage they deal (down from 25%). Designer Note: Madness Sorcerer self-healing is currently too effective in PvE and PvP scenarios. We’ve reduced the life stolen by Affliction and Creeping Terror to better match the self-preservation of similar disciplines.
  • Fixed an issue where Devour allowed one Sorcerer’s Affliction effect to cause any Sorcerer’s Force Leech damage to be increased on that target.

Assassin
Hatred

  • The radius of Death Field has been reduced to 5 meters (down from 8 meters).

Trooper

  • Explosive Round now has a base range of 10 meters (down from 30 meters).
  • High Impact Bolt now has a base range of 10 meters (down from 30 meters).

Vanguard
Designer Note: Vanguard ranged potential is currently too strong for a class that is intended to be played as a close-quarters combatant. Vanguards are melee assault specialists and should be encouraged to engage their targets in close proximity. By reducing the range of Explosive Round and High Impact Bolt, we place the Vanguard’s range potential closer to its design as a close-quarters combatant and further define their unique style in various combat scenarios. Commandos maintain their 30-meter range through our reintroduction of “Mass Accelerator.”

  • Entangling Tools now reduces the movement speed of targets affected by Tactical Surge, Ion Pulse, and Explosive Surge for 3 seconds (down from 6 seconds). Designer Note: The Vanguard’s suppressive potential is currently a little too impressive with the Entangling Tools Utility. In its current iteration, players fleeing from Vanguards are far too susceptible to suffering a perpetual state of reduced movement under the effects of Entangling Tools. To better the player experience and balance Vanguard target control potential, we have reduced the duration of movement speed reduction provided by Entangling Tools.
  • Guard Cannon now heals you for 3% (down from 5%) of your total health when damaging a target with Shoulder Cannon. Designer Note: Vanguard survivability currently surpasses the survivability of similar classes. We are reducing the effectiveness of Guard Cannon to bring the class more in line with the other tank classes.

Commando

  • Mass Accelerator has returned in a new form: Increases the range of Explosive Round and High Impact Bolt by 20 meters. Acquired as a level 10 passive ability. Designer Note: Mass Accelerator has returned, granting Commandos a range boost alongside the new Explosive Round and High Impact Bolt maximum range changes to maintain their current range on Live. This additional passive preserves the Commando’s design as a ranged specialist on the battlefield.

Bounty Hunter

  • Missile Blast now has a base range of 10 meters (down from 30 meters).
  • Rail Shot now has a base range of 10 meters (down from 30 meters).

Powertech
Designer Note: Powertech ranged potential is currently too strong for a class that is intended to be played as a close-quarters combatant. Powertechs are melee onslaught specialists and should be encouraged to engage their targets in close proximity. By reducing the range of Missile Blast and Rail Shot, we place the Powertech’s range potential closer to its design as a close-quarters combatant and further define their unique style in various combat scenarios. Mercenaries maintain their 30-meter range through our reintroduction of “Propulsion Systems.”

  • Suppressive Tools now reduces the movement speed of targets affected by Magnetic Blast, Flame Burst, and Flame Sweep for 3 seconds (down from 6 seconds). Designer Note: The Powertech’s suppressive potential is currently a little too impressive with the Suppressive Tools Utility. In its current iteration, players fleeing from Powertechs are far too susceptible to suffering a perpetual state of reduced movement under the effects of Suppressive Tools. To better the player experience and balance Powertech target control potential, we have reduced the duration of movement speed reduction provided by Suppressive Tools.
  • Shield Cannon now heals you for 3% (down from 5%) of your total health when damaging a target with Shoulder Cannon. Designer Note: Powertech survivability currently surpasses the survivability of similar classes. We are reducing the effectiveness of Shield Cannon to bring the class more in line with the other tank classes.

Mercenary

  • Propulsion Systems has returned in a new form: Increases the range of Missile Blast and Rail Shot by 20 meters. Acquired as a level 10 passive ability. Designer Note: Propulsion Systems has returned, granting Mercenaries a range boost alongside the new Missile Blast and Rail Shot maximum range changes to maintain their current range. This additional passive preserves the Mercenary’s design as a ranged specialist on the battlefield.

Flashpoints + Operations

Dread Fortress

  • Fixed an issue where the Hands of Brontes would occasionally spawn at full health in later phases of the encounter.

Items + Economy

  • Fixed an issue that caused weapon effects to go missing from the Volatile Derelict Saberstaff after using an Ability.

Warzones

  • Players are no longer able to get on top of the center turret in the Alderaan Civil War Warzone.
  • Warzone Bolster no longer looks for Augments in the wrong slot on Weapons, resulting in Bolster’s effect being returned to normal.

By Dulfy

MMO guide writer and blogger. Currently playing and covering SWTOR, GW2, and TSW.

354 replies on “SWTOR Game Update 4.5 Patch Notes”

“New Togruta customization options have been added! These are available to all players via Character Select or Appearance Modification Stations.” 🙂

Longer lekku incoming?

What, you dont happy with cartel coins needed to spend if you already have character?

If it’s something simple like alternate montral/lekku options, then it’s not that expensive to alter a character or two.

This game is beyond saving. Just look at this shit:

“Fixed an issue where the Hands of Brontes would occasionally spawn at full health in later phases of the encounter.”

This should have been done months ago.

“Players are no longer able to get on top of the center turret in the Alderaan Civil War Warzone.”

More exploits in pvp.

And the nerfs thanks to the crybaby pvp’ers.

Thank goodness better games like OVERWATCH and Battleborn and uncharted 4 and dark souls III are out. I own two of these.

SWTOR is a piece of shit and I cannot wait until you white knights realize this game has been dying for years.

Only reason it’s still alive is because you guys are willing to put up with BULLSHIT from bioware. ahahahahah. Enjoy your dead game!

I’m not salty. I state facts. And the facts are that most raiders have left. Most pvp’ers have given up. GSF is a complete oversight aka they couldn’t care less. Who gives a shit about story. If they had provided plenty of content WITH the story the game would have survived. Fuck you!

If you hate the game for what it is go post your shit elsewhere and leave us alone, salty boy.

Fake Truth again. This was once a great game. You guys killed it by allowing bioware to get away with terrible community involvement and CLOSED pts. This is your fault. Keep giving money away!

If you don’t like the game, that’s just fine, but save your shit please, some people still enjoy the game and love it for what it is

Fake truth. You speak nothing but lies. Deep down you know this game is in trouble. I give it about another year before this whole experiment disappears forever.

They couldn’t do what WoW did. They suck. And you guys suck more for supporting them and their pathetic decisions to turn this game into a LORE/STORY fuck fest

“Bounty Contract Week Returns! Hunt wanted criminals in this returning event. The event begins JUNE 14th at 04:00 PST/12:00 GMT and ends JUNE 21st at 04:00 PST/12:00 GMT.”

Bounty Contract Week is in two weeks from today.

Expecting bioware to deliver on what they said? Poor naive little man. Bioware does whatever they want and you just sit there and take it.

They never lied about it. Maybe instead of jumping to conclusions to bash the game and further this person’s ignorance, you could be helpful and point out that the Bounty Contract Week is listed for dates in two weeks from now.

Or I could help even further by letting them know this game is dead and to find himself a new game. There’s plenty of games way better out there right now. He is wasting his time with SWTOR as you all are.

Probably too scared to create an actual account. They feel safe posing their delusions behind the anonymity of a guest account.

I ain’t scared of you dude. Do you even lift bro? Do you even have time to lift when you’re playing a dead game 24/7? ahhahahahahah try again

Actually, I do lift. Maybe if you didn’t spend all of your time bashing a game you don’t seem to know much about, you would have time to lift as well.

I lift 220 bruh. come at me. Unless you’re too busy crafting in the game haahahahahah

Getting your body out of your backseat developer chair doesn’t count as lifting.

welcome to my world with those crybaby bitches lol ive told dulfy 95% of her problems would go away with guest accounts being disabled.

Links? Sources? Spreadsheets? You got nothing. You and bioware are all the same. All liars.

So what? they had an increase big fucking deal. KOTFE brought new players but MORE players left. This shit proves nothing.

From EA’s FY16 Report (http://investor.ea.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=952277)

“On PC, our Star Wars: The Old Republic community has grown to the highest subscriber level in nearly three years, driven by the latest digital expansion, Knights of the Fallen Empire. More great content is on the way for players in each of these experiences, as well as new Star Wars titles for multiple platforms in development across the company.”

“Our most recent update to Star Wars: The Old Republic has fueled subscriber growth with its rich content and deep story-telling.”

Marketing mumbo jumbo. That’s all that is. Trump says he will make america great again. Do you believe this also? lol you are so easy. Bioware is fooling you. I am trying to save you.

You don’t support Trump? O.O

I thought you were one of his biggest supporters with your ignorance of facts and your loudmouth attitude.

Funny, I thought you’d be a supporter of trump since you believe whatever bullshit rich folks and rich companies tell you.

They tweeted this morning about the Rakghoul resurgence returning to Tatooine this week…

“The Rakghoul Plague Event has returned to Tatooine! Join the resistance by 6/7 to win fame and prizes!”

6/7 = Next Week

Oh Look, another SMART man. It makes me happy to see not everyone is a bioware dick sucker. Thank you for seeing that Bioware is indeed a piece of shit.

Loving the vanguard nerfs. first full auto and now this? >.>
Thankfully I no longer sub to this game.

Why because I tell the truth? I am trying to save you money you ungrateful dick. This game is dead. Use your money elsewhere.

You’re probably subbed to the game and are trolling, which is cringey as is. Enjoy waisting your time flaming Dulfy and probably the SWTOR forums.

You are crazy if you think I’ll give 1 more cent to this game. I unsubbed a long time ago. I saved money. Now I spend on it on REAL games. I am simply trying to help you spend your money better. SWTOR is a waste of time and cash.

Maybe so, but shouldn’t the PLAYERS be the ones upset about the game?
Not you.

They are upset. That’s why they left. Why bother saying anything when Bioware won’t care about what they say?

Just because players leave without saying anything doesn’t mean they don’t leave. We all know they leave and in bulk groups.

If by annoying you mean telling the truth I will keep going. People need to wake up already. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

The truth shall never die whether I stop or not. And the truth is….RIP SWTOR

This game has maybe one more year left before Bioware pulls the plug. Then I will laugh and say I told you so while you cry yourselves to sleep. YOU WERE WARNED!

I speak the truth. I am trying to save you money. Why can’t you see what everyone else sees? Have you seen the forums? This game is dead.

Bioware is so desperate that they’re now writing open letters ahhahahahahah

SWTOR is dead? Oh really!?

From EA’s FY16 Report (http://investor.ea.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=952277)

“On PC, our Star Wars: The Old Republic community has grown to the highest subscriber level in nearly three years, driven by the latest digital expansion, Knights of the Fallen Empire. More great content is on the way for players in each of these experiences, as well as new Star Wars titles for multiple platforms in development across the company.”

“Our most recent update to Star Wars: The Old Republic has fueled subscriber growth with its rich content and deep story-telling.”

Copy and pasting nonsense and lies won’t save your game. 2016 is the year this game dies. Buy a better game now before it’s too late.

“Copy and pasting nonsense and lies won’t save your game.”

Then why are you doing it?

All my comments are original and TRUTHFUL. White knights and your lies. Stop defending bioware. it’s over! Move on to the next game.

I did. I am trying to save you all from this disaster called KOTFE. You can thank me later.

If you’ve moved on, then why do you spend all of your time bashing SWTOR when you could be playing other games?

Btw, insulting people is not a good way of helping them.

Whatever it takes to wake them up from the brainwashing that bioware has done to y’all for years!

We appreciate your valiant attempts at helping us, but we are fine with the way things are currently. Now you can move on and help other people in need, like the people in your neighborhood.

One day you will say TRUTH WAS RIGHT. I guarantee it. In fact, you will say it this year.

Wanna place bets on that? 5mil credits that I don’t say it this year.

I gave all my 120 million credits away to my buddy’s guild. The only credit I can give you is having a little common sense left in you, enough to know that this game is dead.

Yet you don’t have enough common sense to know that we don’t need you?

Mm trouble.. ladies do love bad boys. Side note: Whether or not the game is dying, I still think it’s fun. So I’ll play it to its grave, just as I did SWG. Even if I’m all alone on a server, I’ll have fun. Dailies will get done quicker, so hey!

That’s a lie and yuou know it. The game has zero population and you won’t enjoy it. But by the end of this year you will get your wish. let’s see if you play alone

I should mention, I’ve played this game non-stop since pre-order. I don’t think this game is dead. Your argument certainly is, however.

Tell that to the forums and the hundreds of players that share my sentiments. They know what I know. You will soon know it too.

Tell that to the thousands of players that share ours. I admire your solidarity on this point though, truly admirable. Fight for what you believe in! #MakePCGamingGreatAgain

You dont seem like a lost cause. I like that. Perhaps SOME players can be saved. But right now you’re wasting cash. Why don’t you use that money to support a better game…

You know a game rated higher than 6/10

That choice must be made by you. I’m trying to make u see bioware is stealing from you. You decide which game to replace it with

Now both of us are being fallacious, doesn’t matter how many people are playing and complaining on the forums. I’m not, and I’m happy. I will be until the servers shut down indefinitely. So please return to your games and be happy there.

I’m very happy there. I want you guys to be happy too. SWTOR is not making anyone happy. Please you must come into the light. See the truth. 2016 is the last year for swtor.

Don’t worry, soon you’ll give 15 to bioware. Every month. Every freaking month. SMFH

The reason the game seems so dead primarily is that most players have given up on posting on the forums, it’s full of toxic trolls. As for the server situation, the player base is spread out across so many barely populated servers and a few medium populated ones, server merges are long overdue

People have been saying this game has been dead for years. YEARS. and it’s still going. Infact, its in its prime with an upwards of a mil subscribers. It’s nowhere near wow’s population. But it is most certainly not dead. Also, who are you to be my money manager? I spend my money as I please.

This is the year joakim. SWTOR will die in 2016. Mark my words. Take A screen shot. It’s over very soon.

Just like the year before was the year it closes or the year before that and year before that and so on.

Rise of the hutt cartel was the best expansion and BEST times to play SWTOR. The game had life back then. So awesome. Anything else after that just slowly killed it. This game is on life support. To think otherwise is futile.

I will fish for trolls. I love this game. I play it all the time and I can’t wait for the coming update.

The only thing you caught is Bioware’s shit being dumped all over your chest. Your money is wasted on a dead game. What a damn shame.

Thats a lie. Everything I have said today is the truth. Just read the patch notes. Bioware is fucking every one of you in the asshole. Please don’t let them do that to you.

The truth? All your saying is your opinion which is clearly unwanted here. You are just wasting your own time due to the fact that we dont really care what you have to say. Go spread some actual truth such as how Kephess is god, Kirigan Freem is behind The Eternal Empire and Kai Zyken is secretly the emperor.

Thats all lore crap. The only real attraction this game ever had was raiding and pvp.

For you maybe, but the majority of the players play this game for the story. Anyway if you knew anything about the game you would know that Kirigian Freem is definatly not behind The Eternal Empire. To quote the great guy “Kirigan Freem spits on you”.

Oh look another smart gamer. Wow I honestly thought Bioware had everyone brainwashed. I am so glad to see there are still gamers with brains out there unlike the white knights on this site and the forums! Good job!

I’m tempted to bash Overwatch like this ignorant troll bashes SWTOR, but unlike it, I see no point in bashing a game I don’t play.

That’s because there’s nothing to bash. Overwatch is nearly perfect. Blizzard took every BEST aspect of other games and perfected them in every way you can imagine. The game is brilliant. SWTOR however is a pathetic 6/10 on most sites.

That’s probably because of trolls like you destroying its reputation with your toxic attitudes.

What you consider toxic I considering telling the truth and opening up players’ eyes to the truth. The truth is…the game is dead.

No different than your defense of a company that couldn’t care less about the longevity of the game. That’s 1000 broken records.

I visit the forums and I feel like throwing up from all the ass kissing I see from you white knights.

I’m not a white knight. I don’t defend this game unless some ignorant bully like you tries to insult other players who are having a good time. We DO NOT need you.

I am far from a bully. I am a savior. And I am here to save you from bioware. Take my hand before it’s too late.

Nah, you’re not a bully, you’re an idiot who probably has a pretty pathetic life with few or no friends. I mean, if you’d been a funny troll, it would be fine. But you’re not.,You’re repetitive, dull, boring, and seem to lack any kind of the imagination or wittiness that makes a troll entertaining.

You’re the forum equivalent of gungans as playable characters in TOR, redundant and completely unwanted. But at least Bioware have the good sense to not include them in the game while you’re still commenting here.

Doesn’t look perfect. Looks pretty shit, actually.

That said, I don’t disagree that swtor probably only has a year or so left. Feels like they’re scaling everything down in preparation.

Looks can be deceiving. It might look cartoonish but the gameplay is so dynamic and diverse that it feels so rewarding. 9/10 easy with some sites rating it as 10/10.

The day swtor gets a a 9/10 let alone a 10/10 will be the day pigs fly

So, what, are you continuing to be in the nightmare till it ends? It’s not a nightmare if you choose to be in it.

what’s the point of having Item Modification Station? You can take mods out even without it.

Don’t have to. Plenty of games are already BETTER. Too bad swtor CURRENT players can’t see the light. Players that left saw the light.

There it was – you finally admitted the reason behind all this nonsense you keep repeating.. if you like the other games so much better, go play them and leave the rest os us, who likes SWTOR, alone..

Honestly, your lack of intelligence is insulting..

Hey, you’re stealing SCORPIO’s lines… The psycho droid may come after you… Just sayin’…

No it’s “sampling”.
I was listening to the radio today and I thought “cool, they are playing Under Pressure” it turned out to be Vanilla Ice :,(

Do you know that guy actually had the nerve to say that that bass line was NOT lifted from Queen??? I mean… WTF???

I know I’ve seen him talk about it. I don’t see what the big deal is, rappers do it ALL the time now. He was a pioneer. Admit it and move on.

Yeah ok… But not admitting to steal the line is just plain stupid! I know, I’m a musician! I take that stuff VERY seriously… Anyway, this is completely off topic, and pointless as you say, EVERYBODY does it these days… I just think coming up with original music is a lot more interesting than stealing licks…

You don’t really think Vanilla Ice pioneered sampling others’ music do you?

It’s really a nod to Knights of the Old Republic where you had to use the station to mod gear. They could make it so you could add augments without it, but that will never happen.

Of course it won’t. Bioware couldn’t care less. They stopped providing quality content at the end of rise of the hutt cartel.

LOL ROTHC is paaaaainful to get through. I only did it on most of my characters to max out the rep

SWTOR is the MATRIX. I am Morpheus. I am here to wake you guys up from the horrible dream you are in! Come into the light already. This game is a ticking time bomb. You wanna be here when it explodes?

If it does explode, they’ll just build another one, without an easily accessible exhaust port. And when that one explodes, they’ll build another one. One in a planet. Bigger, better, tougher.. just fucking huge. That blows up planets. That’s how good the next games will be. ‘Tis the way of all that is evil.

Why almost all good ideas sold to terrible companies? I for example love mass effect 1-3 games (except ending of 3) but bioware is not what it was before since normal people left.

Im just sad that this is industry with big flows of money involved, there probably will be long way before devs start to hear us and we get normalgood products.

me to EA is buying all these companies gutting them to the bone then using their nameplate to take the blame for thier garbage. Sim city is the case study for EA what they did there

I’m getting rather tired of this so-called “Truth” person, so I’m just going to let it go for a while. Hopefully, pest control can handle it while I’m gone.

I’ll see you decent people later 🙂

How about this, “Truth”, we will concede that the game is officially “dead” when I can log into a populated server, stare directly at the fleet transport drop off area, where all the players gather, and I have 60FPS non-wavering.

It’s just a matter of time. All it will take is one wrong nerf or one buggy ass major update and it’s over.

Look white knights, there have been some users already who posted they unsubbed. They made a smart decision. Continuing to support a dead game is not smart. Follow their steps. Follow my steps. Put your money elsewhere.

Rest in peace SWTOR.

Omg, you sound like those religious people that knock on my door trying to get me into their stuff… I mean, let’s pretend for a while that the game is dead… What is it to you, personally? How does it make your life better to come here and trash the game? Does it make you feel better? Is it an accomplishment? Really, how EMPTY is your life that you come here and preach the gospel according to none other than yourself to the rest of us?

Take MY advice: use your time better. Go play these awesome games you talk about. Else you come off sounding like an unbalanced, “MMO divorcee” person. Let the rest of us sink with the Titanic. It’s been sinking for a while now, we just want to see it through, if that’s ok with you…

How in the fuck can you be okay with sinking with this shit? How can you seriously look in the mirror and tell yourself “I want to die with this game”. Why? That’s wasting time and money. For no reason when there are other games where your time would be better spent.

I didn’t say it was… You said it, not me. I was being ironic… But I guess that didn’t show through enough lol…

But hey, the game does have problems… Just recently I was bashed by someone for apparently being one of the most negative posters here on Dulfy lol… And I’m going to try ESO out, if that’s any consolation to you man…

Negative comments is what many companies use to perfect their products. As a matter of fact it was Bill gates that said something along the lines of “I learned more from negative comments than positive ones”

What reality do you live in? It is a GAME, not life. If you cannot tell the difference then you need to seek some help little one. You need to understand a very simple thing about your fellow humans. We do what the hell we want. If someone wants to spend time and money on this game that is their choice, what they want to do. You obviously have issues and with the game as well and choose not to spend the time and money. Simple. Kindly get over yourself and seek some professional help. Seriously.

Nothing like the troll of truth he plays a blizz game trolls here While still secretly playing SWTOR Personally do not care what you say or think truth I play a game I like period So Troll all you like and have fun Dead game or not still better then a lot of the crap games out there Enjoy your day troll truth

Oh I will, but I am not trolling. Sorry to disappoint you. I am spreading the word that BIOWARE is robbing you. Unsub. It’s the only way you will make them make this game better

Uh, not really. BW have, historically, been pretty fucking awful at fixing bugs. And that’s not really up for debate, either. It’s well known.

Compared to other game developers, they are no Worse at fixing bugs.

And also, you Seem to base it on the bugs that still exits – but dont Seem to have a Cour of the vandt amount of bugs that actually are fixed.
Even achievements are now bugfree, despite How low priority those bugfixes has

Truth, why do you still talk? You’re just fucking sad, like relent already. You don’t like the game, we get it. But you actually tried to say that Overwatch is a decent game? What’re you nine? Do you even have a life? You post nonstop here, so just shut the fuck up.

Overwatch is an amazing game.

Overwatch loot system = Miranda Kerr

SWTOR loot system = Octomom

Catch my drift?

I your drift is that you havent got a clue about SWTOR, and that you might actually just be promoting another game? yea, its pretty obvious – and a poor attempt.

Pretty sure he’s that guy we all hated so much a couple years ago, who finally got perma-banned… I forget his name. Not relevant, anyway. Although this iteration seems to be taking more of a holy-rolling tack, which doesn’t make much sense, but… when do trolls make sense?

There was that racist guy – africano i think his character name was – and he got perma banned a few years back.

Spruce cycle. I’m taking a big chance saying his name, he may enter my dreams now and murder my alts.

Noone takes Truth serious – its just one of those “wow is better” people, who want the players to populate another dead or dying game.

But mainly these kinds of people just do it to piss people off – they are the kind of people. who “likes to see the world burn” by annoying, insulting or harming other people.

he is unintelligent at best.

Okay guys I am done. Yes I know what you’re thinking “FUCKING FINALLY”.

However, what you should be thinking is “Bioware’s focus on story is really driving away vets of the game and my guildies and friends”. MMOs are different communities in-game. Bioware is only appealing to the story lovers. The rest are being denied. And it will continue.

At some point you will have to wake up. If you’re not gonna tell bioware your concerns for the game, the very least you can do is let your actions speak for you.

Unsub. They will understand what you’re saying. Money talks and bullshit walks.

Thank you.

Honestly, if you’re trying to make a point here, I hope you know that NOBODY is taking your comments to heart. You are trolling, and people ignore trolls. I’ll continue to do what *I* want with *my* money playing the game *I* enjoy. Good bye.

Y’know, disppearing without telling anyone would be MUCH better.
Less piss thrown your way. Less Bull we have to read.

i see what your doing and i hear you but let me tell you theres way to many fanbois/carebears here who ears bleed when the slightest criticism is given to tor their used to being fluffed up and told everythings fine please use your dadys credit card on our gambling packs i do hear ya though but tor will never get better with this much carebears who dont realize their destroying their own game sad but true.

Hmm, some of the general fixes are actually pretty nice, would’ve loved that extra storage tab in the legacy cargo hold, and the unlock for the ship. Now if they just reintroduce Quinn as comp and give me at least 2 different ways of killing him I might actually resub for another month just to see that, especially since Vette is already back.

But…. In it’s current iteration, it barely feels like an MMO anymore, would love to see it transformed into a single player RPG with mod support instead. Because player made bug fixes/optimizations and custom made armors would’ve been so awesome to have for it, and no cartel market at all. Unrealistic, but one can always dream….

well i have played swtor from day 1 of release and on day 1 of release ther wer slimly little wow players sayin swtor wud be bead in 2 months yet here we are 4 years alter still playing and discussing it and still my server (red eclipse) has a decent population with many guilds both factions with 30-50 ppl online a lot of the time and pvp pops from 7/8am to 3/4am most week nights and the odd time my guild needs to pug we fill group for raids in a few mins at most so to sumise i wud say the game is as active as ever despite ther being no new raids for a loooong time and butthurt troll like truth shud probly just stick to their beloved game and hope it has the longevity swtor has had and still enjoys. SWTOR FTW lifeless trolls FTL peddle your bullshit elsewhere

those slimy little wow players still come from time to time to get their “monthly abuse” on general chat – spouting nonsense just to piss people off – and i think they get their horns on from it, if you understand.. its not like it has ANY effect – noone ever switched game because of one of these trolls..

but this guy “truth” has several times due to lack of intelligence, let it slip that his beef isnt with bioware (he has no clue what hes talking about, which is evident of his way of writing) but intends to do just the same as those slimy wow-fanatics. Wanting to get his horns on from all the abuse other people write back at him.

cause if we are honest, and imagine that they have at least a few functioning braincells, that can be the only explanation. Noone should be stupid enough to think, that they can get people to unsub by writing stuff like Truth does – so the only explanation must be, that it makes him horny, when people write nasty and abusive stuff back at him.

i know a few genuinely retarded people, and they would be able to understand this, because it is that simple.

It simply survived because of the “Star Wars” label. I’m also subscriber since 2012, but to be honest: Without “Star Wars” in the title it would be in a worse position as Wildstar, Tera and many other MMO.

And the engine is rather close to collapsing. It can happen any day that they brake this mess beyond repair.

getting by and bieng succesful are 2 different things. the game exists its not a wowkilling success or anything considering this is star wars thats pretty sad when you think about it but you got a paper engine and janitors working as devs now

If you check your facts before you say them out loud, you’ll find that SWTOR is built on an early build of HeroEngine. Now, the reason it sucks is that BW got it very early, so it was unfinished, so they had to complete it themselves, not really knowing what they had, and having to make major changes to it… therefore, most of the problems in SWTOR are caused by this dumb decision. You can read more here: http://www.heroengine.com/2011/11/heroengine-meets-starwars/

how about learning to take criticism and different opinions on the game? this isnt the pro tor or con tor forum its a forum for discussion of the game good or bad

“The Rakghoul Plague Event has returned to Tatooine! Join the resistance by 6/7 to win fame and prizes!”

6/7 = Next Tuesday

No, there’s a Rak event going on as we speak… Or write… Just went to get Lokin on my Sniper an hour or so ago… 🙂

Yes, it’s on as of today I think. Check the Fleet, I’m sure it’s on… Or I’m on REALLY freaky drugs that my wife puts in the food or something looooool…

Still playing the game, Paolo? Bloody hell, you quit in 4.0 as far as I recall because the game sucks, Bioware sucks because no new raids, life sucks because this game isn’t perfect and so on. And you’ve started posting things that are almost positive…has someone hacked your account?

First: It would be nice if you logged in with the same name instead of commenting with different names, to look like more people;

Second: as I’ve already told YOU, go ahead and look ANYWHERE on Dulfy where I said I was quitting the game. Stopping to subscribe and cancelling your account are two very different things.

Third: what’s it to you if I play or quit?

Fourth and final: If I have to criticize, I will. If I find something positive I will say so as well. It’s normal to start saying something positive, since the negatives have been in the game for a long time, and remain so. If a pack is good or a nerf is necessary, as I think it is, doesn’t mean I stopped thinking a new Operation is needed, or that the general direction of the game is wrong, in my opinion.

There. I hope this rests your worried mind about me not leaving…

It’s right now. But, maybe it will stop after the patch and will replaced by an other event. Maybe not. Mabye we get again a events collision and events remain broken for weeks, again. We’ll see. But right now the Rakghoul event is happening.

Wow. Broonmark, REALLY? With all the interesting stories characters have on the republic side you HAVE to throw this guy at us?

How long until this Truth guy is banned? I’ve never seen someone waste so much time being a stupid troll and try to push his opinions on everybody as much as possible.

“New Togruta customization options have been added! These are available to all players via Character Select or Appearance Modification Stations,”
If this includes adjusting the size of the montrals, I will buy the species. I never liked the short montrals on the male Togruta.

I’m very curious what they added to the Togruta. It’s more likely they added some skin color patterns. But who knows, maybe they fixed what ever problem there is with having longer Lekku and Montrals. (Clipping? And this isn’t a problem on females because they attatched them to the boobies?)

I don’t get it, isn’t the point of Vanguards to be ranged tanks? This is really annoying.

But how many ops bosses or even npc’s aside from ranged npc’s actually stay at range? None. The idea of a “ranged” tank is just stupid to me to begin with. I’m not sure what weapon a VG would use but I’ve always thought that the PT tank should be using a Techstaff. Way back in beta there was a concept of Snipers and Gunslingers being tanks but it was scrapped at launch.

The idea of a huge animal or a big bad evil Sith boss attacking just 1 out of 16 people that are trying to kill them, is stupid by itself, and doesn’t make any sense anyway. So if you try to apply “logic” in a video game, then you cancel tanks.

The only mechanic which works as a tank protecting the rest of the players, is when the Kell Dragon does the spikes throw ability, and the tank gets in front of it so other players do not receive damage. But most of the fights are usually the tank turning the boss towards them, while the players stab and kill the boss from behind. So a ranged tank is not that crazy of an idea if you consider all of that.

When I think of a ranged tank, I think of someone who’s capable of pulling enemies who might lose aggro from a distance, more so than a melee tank.

VG/PT tanks still have that ability moreso than the other two tanks. They’re the only tank with a ranged AoE taunt, as the other two class’s AoE taunts are PBAoE.

Dont give them ideas. ) They’ll read this and reduce range of sonic round to 3 meters.

I should be mad about the PT/Vanguard shoulder cannon change, since their reasoning is completely dishonest and ignorant to the game they’re supposed to be developing for, but I’m not. At this point I honestly expect no less out of these idiots.

“Legacy Cargo Hold: An additional storage tab may now be purchased for the Legacy Cargo Hold.”

Finally! I need more space for the legacy gear 😀

“New Togruta customization options have been added! These are available to all players via Character Select or Appearance Modification Stations.”

Let’s hope they added longer Montrals!

any idea on the side of the patch ? 1g 10g im on my phones hotspot. No internet where im at. Trying to see if i bust my data plan on the update.

Nice to see they listened to player feedback.. ow wait..

What is nice though, is that they give the % change

Hey i have had issues as the sith warrior were i am playing on nar shadda and i am heading back to the spaceport then my game stops and drops me into my desktop does anyone know what to do?

“New Legacy Perk: Item Modification Station! Unlocks an Item Modification Station on your personal ship.”

I think I missed something out… why is that a thing I would want? I can modify my weapons on the run, or am I wrong?

For adding augment slots – but once you have a stronghold, i dont see why you would want to station your characters on your personal ship anymore.. you can have all the same things with these additions, but in your ship you cant move the stuff around like you can in your stronghold, placing it strategically.. this should have come before strongholds – now it is just redundant

Having a stronghold doesn’t mean you have a modification station there… I understand it’s difficult to imagine how the game might be to people who’ve played less, have less credits and are less privilidged in the ingame stuff as you and me, but you do sound like a self-righteous git when you say things like this.

Yeah, I should prove my love for the game like others do: by constantly bitching about how shitty I think it is.

That works with people, too. Try it.

The station for strongholds is cheap, and the strongholds itself is cheap. You are the one who sounds self righteous.

Nothing of what i said justifies your answer.

It seems to me, that you didnt read what i said – having it In your ship should have come long before strongholds did, now it is just redundant.

It has nothing to do with Money or playtime, cause the shipupgrade Costs more than getting it for your stronghold i believe

what time is the maintence window in the uk 5-9am pst means nothing to us boring lot across the pond ;p

thanks. i guess ill hate to wait til tomorrow to play it then im out from 4pm to midnight lol.

Np 🙂
You can still play it at midnight when you get home. Why wait till tomorrow? I know I couldn’t wait that long *lol*

coz i would be going to bed at that point. plus i actually dont play much now jsut for the new chapters not got a guild or time really to play raids.

“Fixed an issue where Smugglers and Bounty Hunters were not getting credit for completing Act 3 if certain conversation choices were made during the final Missions.”
Brilliant, however I’ve had a ticket in for weeks that my commando and shadow still don’t have accreditation for completing chapter 3. This doesn’t bode well.

“Fixed a bug that caused players to be unable to remove Modifications from equipment.”
Was annoying but a quick restart solved this.

“New Legacy Perk: Legacy Cargo Hold! Unlocks a Legacy cargo hold on your personal ship.”
“New Legacy Perk: Item Modification Station! Unlocks an Item Modification Station on your personal ship.”
“Legacy Cargo Hold: An additional storage tab may now be purchased for the Legacy Cargo Hold.”
This is mega – for this guys you get

People ask all day where these stations are on the imp/ep fleet in general chat.
🙂

They should place one of them at the point where these people are!

Not everyone has a stronghold, not everyone has bought the mod station for their stronghold. Just because we are privilidged in having cool stuff doesn’t mean they shouldn’t allow easier Access to it for other people.

You can purchase a SH for 5k credits which you can trip over if you’re not careful with the way this game throws credits at you. A mod station only costs one Universal Prefab MK1 which can be had for cheap on the GTN. There is no reason for anybody to not have one in a SH.

I guess there are many player who don’t know about it. And other who completely ignored everything about Strongholds because they are not interested in.

so what you are saying is i have to teleport to my stronghold to augment my weapon-armor ? why i cant just move 5 meters and there is a mod station there ?

The little changes to fleet are (mostly) nice, and FINALLY allowing various hairstyles to be used by other species is probably long overdue. The new Togruta stuff might be interesting, at least.

I’m sure all the changes to various classes is all terribly fascinating stuff but since you can just faceroll through practically everything now I’ll probably just read it never.

As this game is mainly fun to play “role-playing” style during the solo-story, i too am mostly interested in the vanity/cosmetic stuff. What sets this game apart, is the vast amount of story, and honestly, the end-game (except for NiM which you dont need in any case, cause the drops arent unique) is more or less easy, even for casual players.

class changes are usually caused by other peoples whining, but are usually fair when it comes to PVP.. they do tend to overdo it, but the last few patches they have made only minor class changes to the sage – so i guess they have learned their lesson not to totally nerf or totally overpower a class, like they used to do. They seem to make minor changes and see where that leads them – which might let the class be too nerfed or overpowered for an extended period, but in the long-haul it will end up with a more balanced and satisfying game. so for that part, they seems to have learned something..

I wonder why is not here some mention about added tuning slot in to Cathar Honor Sword…. Where are other tunings? They said, so in packs should be the new ones

I think this pack will have tunings, the same like the last pack. BioWare is always stretching new stuff. It#s way to early for them to put the next tuning type into the game.

Same with craftable, and maybe tunings from other sources. They will be in the game some time, but not very soon.

Haha. In the german patch notes it says:

Players subscribed on June 2nd have immediate access to this new
Chapter, and it will be available for all other Subscribers on June 3rd.

Things have been going pretty well at work lately, so I figure why not spend some extra money on the CM market. The mando themed stuff is pretty cool. I figure I’ll spend five bucks per every dumbass comment “Truth” posts in the next week. Try not to break the bank, sweetheart:)

Well most of the last patches added bugs to the item preview. I expect it to be more broken than before with 4.5.

I just logged in for the Concord Dawn inspired outfit for my mandos. Then logged back out, nothing seems to have changed for the better. And knowing my mandalorian rp guild isn’t online just makes me depressed. I love Star Wars and Old Republic Era, but Swtor sucks the soul out of it.

Honestly this isn’t look so bad. Few good changes… I hope that they don’t put to many bugs life.
And why this nerfs? Well pvpers will be happy but god damn why only pvp? This is ridiculous…

No matter how overpowered a class is, if they nerf it there will always be somebody who asks: Why?

Why do you nerf my roflfacerollopfotm class? I need it to be that way!

at least they have learned to make many minor changes, instead of completely nerfing or overpowering a class like they used to. that, at least, is a good sign. better with many small adjustments to the class, instead of a few major ones – at least when it comes to balancing out the classes in PVP.

I was happy with the 6th legacy tab. Can finally move my companion gifts into the bank so that I don’t have to keep mailing them around when needed.

What kind of morons UNSUB but continue to gather in the comments section of the patch notes to heckle anyone who enjoys this game at every opportunity? Lol

I don’t see new options for Togruta on my female Togruta char.

Maybe they ae really only for males?

I checked on my male, but I didn’t see anything — granted I don’t have all the combos memorized or anything. But nothing stood out as unusual to me.

If the classes are overpowered, who made them that way? Bloody developers need to remove heads from asses and purchase a clue. I really, really want to care about this game but when the devs are such…..gah. Bugger it, off to play Fallout 4.

Better and more detailed and specific feedback from players would go a long way. Most of the forums threads are filled with nothing but whining. The art of writing an intelligent sentence is lost.

Had a post today of 5 paragraphs of whining and complaining. Never did figure out what their issue was.

I as well as many, many others have feed them truckloads of feedback, all of which seems to have been ignored time and again. I love this game, I really do but when I can go a week without even thinking about the game I know it’s long past time to put my time into something else. Time and again we have watched the devs completely ignore what people are putting in while streaming even unless it fits with what they want to push. Which of late seems to be Cartel Market fluff and more single player story mode….in a MMO. Go figure.

Have they fixed broken achievements like HK-55’s? There is no mention of it in the patch notes so I don’t have high hopes…

Haven’t seen any mention of such. Don’t see it being discussed on the forums either.

I still cannot go back to alliance camps. It says for my guy that completed chp 12 for fallen empire, that he is still makeb in the character loading screen.

Not mentioned in the patch notes but Torian now uses a Sniper Rifle instead of a Techstaff.

There’s at least a half dozen threads on the support forums where folks have discovered things that were changed but weren’t mentioned in the patch notes.

Either these are all bugs or whoever wrote the patch notes missed, forgot or didn’t think these items were important.

In their defense, they do seem pretty good with including everything in their patch notes. I’ll even admit that they’re better than me at it.

What did they change about togruta, looks all the same, no skin options like Ashara that is for sure.

They added more jewelry options. Hard to believe any one actually thought they were going to add an option for longer montrals and/or lekku, or “non-devil horn” montrals for males.

didn’t they add one new face pattern? Or is that last face pattern on the appearance mod station just something I’ve always repressed knowing it already existed because it is just as terrible as most of the others?

Did they fix the dual-wielding bug where it doesn’t show animations when equipping vibroblade+saber?

Nope still no accreditation for my Shadow and Commando for completing Chapter 3.

Cheers Bioware.

“At Bioware, we believe 12 minutes and 39 seconds is faster than 11 minutes 56, because **** statistics.”

a p-tech with a pistol can only shoot 10m RS while a MERC with that Same pistol can shoot 50 meter RS? GG bioware you guys are even dumber than MUSCO looks

Yeah, they screwed Powertechs for good. I’m giving up playing mine. It was so fun, now is just stupid, having to get to my opponents’s FACE to hit them.

Did they do anything with the character models?

All of my son’s toons seem to have bigger chests and look shorter and more stout. No changes to the models on his part and the video settings are the same. The backgrounds looks fine!

Thanks-

Have they ever buffed a class considerably, instead of breaking it? Some classes are broken now and just keep getting more broken.

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