SWTOR Light vs Dark Event Info Guide

Bioware has posted the details and rewards of the upcoming Light vs Dark event which is scheduled to begin on June 28.

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Some rewards such as titles and pack rewards are delivered as earned. Others, such as the Companions, Victor’s Trailblazer and Titan vehicles are delivered at the end of the event this fall.

Heroic Level Guide

Below you will find each objective required to complete the Heroic Tier of the Dark vs. Light event.

To participate in the Dark vs. Light event, you must use a character created on or after June 28, 2016. You will know if your character is participating in the event if they have the following icon present on the Character Select screen.

Objectives:

The Story Begins

To complete the objective “The Story Begins”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and gain enough experience to gain Character level 25. In order to reach level 25, you need to engage in activities that increase your experience. This includes Missions, Warzones, Flashpoints, and more! To track your progress, simply look at your character’s current level, listed next to your portrait.

Once your Character reaches level 25, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs Light: The Story Begins” to note that you have completed this objective.

Rewards

HEROIC LEVEL REWARDS:

  • 5 Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Packs (includes one “Best of” Dark or Light themed weapon, gear, mount, decoration, color crystal or dye from previous cartel packs plus either an XP Boost or Companion gift)
  • In-Game Title: “The Heroic Victor”

COMPLETE THIS CHALLENGE TO UNLOCK YOUR REWARDS:

  • Reach Level 25 on 1 character

Legacy Level Guide

Below you will find each objective required to complete the Legacy Tier of the Dark vs. Light event.

To participate in the Dark vs. Light event, you must use a character created on or after June 28, 2016. You will know if your character is participating in the event if they have the following icon present on the Character Select screen.

Objectives:

The Story Continues

To complete the objective “The Story Continues,” you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and gain enough experience to gain Character level 50. In order to reach level 50, you need to engage in activities that increase your experience. This includes Missions, Warzones, Flashpoints, and more! To track your progress, simply look at your character’s current level, listed next to your portrait.

Once your Character reaches level 50, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs Light: The Story Continues” to note that you have completed this objective.

Flashpoint Responder

To complete the objective “Flashpoint Responder”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and complete the following Story Flashpoints:

  • As a Republic Character:
    • Esseles
    • Taral V
    • Maelstrom Prison
  • As an Empire Character:
    • Black Talon
    • Boarding Party
    • Foundry

Story Flashpoints are action-packed adventures made to be played by characters either Solo, or with a group of other players. We recommend playing through these Flashpoints with a group of players using the Group Finder. To use the Group Finder, follow these steps.

First, start by clicking on the Group Finder icon located at the top left of your mini-map. This will bring up the Group Finder interface.

Second, with the Group Finder interface showing, you are only a few clicks away from the action! At the top of the interface, select your preferred playstyle between Damage, Healing, and Tanking (note: you can select more than one option).

Lastly, for this objective we recommend playing Tactical versions of the Flashpoints. Tactical Flashpoints are meant to be a normal challenge for a group of four players. Keep in mind that you have to complete specific Flashpoints to complete the “Flashpoint Responder” objective, refer to the Republic or Imperial character section above for which Flashpoints you need. To queue for a specific Tactical Flashpoint follow these steps:
Look at the Story Mode Operations and Hard Mode Flashpoints sections and make sure that they are not checked.

Once you uncheck those options, scroll down to the Tactical Flashpoints section and click on the selection filter button in the top right of that section. Select only the Flashpoints you need to complete. Press Accept to close that window.

With your Flashpoints selected, press the Join Queue button and wait for a pop-up indicating a group has been found and allowing to join the Flashpoint. Press ACCEPT to hop in! Repeat these steps and complete each Flashpoint in the “Flashpoint Responder” objective to complete it.

Rewards

LEGACY LEVEL REWARDS:

  • Shade Stalker Runt Mini-Pet
  • Victorious Pioneer’s Armor Set: Helm, Chest and Legs – grants +25% Bonus XP (Earn the full set to get +50% Bonus XP)!
  • 10 Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Packs (includes one “Best of” Dark or Light themed weapon, gear, mount, decoration, color crystal or dye from previous cartel packs plus either an XP Boost or Companion gift)
  • In-Game Title: “The Destined Victor”

COMPLETE BOTH THESE CHALLENGES TO UNLOCK YOUR REWARDS:

  • Reach Level 50 on 1 Character
  • Complete 3 Story Flashpoints

Valiant Level Guide

Below you will find each objective required to complete the Valiant Tier of the Dark vs. Light event.

To participate in the Dark vs. Light event, you must use a character created on or after June 28, 2016. You will know if your character is participating in the event if they have the following icon present on the Character Select screen.

Objectives:

Revan

To complete the objective “Revan”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and complete the main story for the Shadow of Revan Expansion. To start the Shadow of Revan expansion you must be level 55.

Once your Character completes the final Shadow of Revan Mission “The Enemy Within”, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs Light: Revan” to note that you have completed this objective.

The Outlander

To complete the objective “The Outlander”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and finish Chapters 1-9 in Knights of the Fallen Empire. To complete this objective, you must have a character of at least level 60 and had an active subscription as of October 27th, 2016 to access to the required Chapters. If you meet these requirements, you will see a large “Play” button inside of your Mission log labeled Chapter I: The Hunt. Press “Play” in your Mission tracker and then press “Launch” on the pop-up to begin Fallen Empire. (Note: Once you have begun Fallen Empire you will be unable to complete certain content, this includes Shadow of Revan and the Ziost storyline which are required for other Dark vs. Light objectives.)

Continue playing through each Chapter until you have completed Chapter IX. Once your Character completes Chapter XIV: The Alliance, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs Light: The Outlander” to note that you have completed this objective.

Home Sweet Home

To complete the “Home Sweet Home” objective, you must take a light and dark event character and finish the introductory Mission to Galactic Strongholds. Your Character must be at least level 10 to access the Mission. To complete the Mission, follow these steps.

As a Republic Character:
Start by heading to the Republic Fleet. You can travel there by way of your personal starship, the departure shuttle from your origin planet (Ord Mantell or Tython), or your emergency fleet pass. Once there, head to the Strongholds & Crew Skills section of the fleet and seek out Pargon Sisto, the Stronghold Commissioner.

Right click Pargon to receive the Mission “Introduction to Strongholds.” His Mission will require you to purchase a Stronghold and travel to it. From Pargon, turn around and you will find a section of Stronghold terminals. Simply activate one to purchase your Stronghold. If you already own a Stronghold you do not need to purchase an additional one.

Once purchased, open up your Stronghold user interface (the shortcut is ‘U’ by default) and then click travel to your purchased Stronghold. This will complete your Mission, which will grant you the Achievement “Dark vs Light: Home Sweet Home” to note that you have completed this objective.

As an Empire Character:
Start by heading to the Imperial Fleet. You can travel there by way of your personal starship, the departure shuttle from your origin planet (Korriban or Hutta), or your emergency fleet pass ability. Once there, head to the Strongholds & Crew Skills section of the fleet and seek out Ajolin, the Stronghold Commissioner.

Right click Ajolin to receive the Mission “Introduction to Strongholds.” His Mission will require you to purchase a Stronghold and travel to it. From Pargon, turn around and you will find a section of Stronghold terminals. Simply activate one to purchase your Stronghold. If you already own a Stronghold you do not need to purchase an additional one.

Once purchased, open up your Stronghold user interface (the shortcut is ‘U’ by default) and then click “Travel” to your purchased Stronghold. This will complete your Mission, which will grant you the Achievement “Dark vs Light: Home Sweet Home” to note that you have completed this objective.

Rewards

VALIANT LEVEL REWARDS:

  • Victor’s Trailblazer Bike Mount
  • Victorious Pioneer’s Armor Set: Belt and Bracer – grants +15% Bonus XP (full set grants +50% Bonux XP)!
  • 10 Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Packs (includes one “Best of” Dark or Light themed weapon, gear, mount, decoration, color crystal or dye from previous cartel packs plus either an XP Boost or Companion gift)
  • In-Game Title: “The Valiant Victor”

COMPLETE ALL THESE CHALLENGES TO UNLOCK YOUR REWARDS:

  • Play the Shadow of Revan Expansion (Complete Level 55 – 60)
  • Complete the first 9 Chapters of Knights of the Fallen Empire Expansion
  • Complete the introductory Galactic Stronghold Mission

Champion Level Guide

Below you will find each objective required to complete the Champion Tier of the Dark vs. Light event.

To participate in the Dark vs. Light event, you must use a character created on or after June 28, 2016. You will know if your character is participating in the event if they have the following icon present on the Character Select screen.

Objectives:

Alliance Commander

To complete the objective “Alliance Commander”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and finish Chapters I-XVI in Knights of the Fallen Empire. In order to complete this objective, you must have a character of at least level 60 and had an active subscription as of the launch of Chapter XVI to ensure you have access to all KotFE Chapters. If you meet these requirements, you will see a large “Play” button inside of your Mission log labeled Chapter I: The Hunt (or the name of another Chapter if your character has progressed beyond Chapter I). Press “Play” in your Mission tracker and then press “Launch” on the pop-up to begin Fallen Empire.

Continue playing through each Chapter until you have completed Chapter 16. Once your Character completes Chapter XVI: The Battle of Odessen, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Alliance Commander” to note that you have completed this objective.

Building Alliances

To complete the “Building Alliances” objective, you must take a light and dark event character and complete five Alliance Recruitment Missions. In order to be eligible for Alliance Recruitment Missions, you must have a level 65 character that has completed both Chapter IX: The Alliance and the first Alliance Mission “To Find a Findsman.”
To go on an Alliance Recruitment Mission you will want to start by opening your Companions and Contacts interface (‘N’ by default). Once there, you can view all of your currently available Recruitment Missions under the Alerts section at the top of the interface.

Simply select the Recruitment Mission you wish to undertake, and then click “Travel to Alert Location” located in the bottom right of the interface. Finish any five Alliance Recruitment Missions and you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Building Alliances” to note that you have completed this objective.

Flashpoint Expert

To complete the objective “Flashpoint Expert”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and complete the following Tactical Flashpoints (in any order):

  • Hammer Station
  • Cademimu
  • The Red Reaper
  • The Battle of Ilum
  • Kuat Drive Yards
  • Korriban Incursion (either the Empire and Republic version)
  • Battle of Rishi
  • Athiss
  • Taral V (Republic only)
  • Boarding Party (Empire only)
  • Directive 7
  • Czerka Corporate Labs
  • Depths of Manaan
  • Assault on Tython (either the Empire and Republic version)
  • Mandalorian Raiders
  • Maelstrom Prison (Republic only)
  • The Foundry (Empire only)
  • The False Emperor
  • Czerka Core Meltdown
  • Legacy of the Rakata
  • Blood Hunt

Tactical Flashpoints are action-packed adventures made to be played by characters with a group of other players. First, start by clicking on the Group Finder icon located at the top right of your mini-map. This will bring up the Group Finder interface.

With the Group Finder interface showing, you are only a few clicks away from the action! At the top of the interface, select your preferred playstyle between Damage, Healing, and Tanking (note: you can select more than one option).

Tactical Flashpoints are meant to be a normal challenge for a group of four players. Keep in mind, you have to complete each Flashpoint above to complete the “Flashpoint Expert” objective. To queue for a specific Tactical Flashpoint do the following:

Look at the Story Mode Operations and Hard Mode Flashpoints sections and make sure that they are not checked.

Once you uncheck those options, scroll down to the Tactical Flashpoints section. Once there, click on the selection filter button in the top right of that section. Select only the Flashpoints you need to complete.

With your Flashpoints selected, press the Join Queue button and wait for a pop-up indicating a group has been found and allowing to join the Flashpoint. Press ACCEPT to hop in! Repeat these steps and complete each Flashpoint in the “Flashpoint Expert” objective to complete it.

Valor

To complete the “Valor” objective, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and earn enough Valor on that character to achieve Valor level 5. To gain Valor, participate in combat through Warzones or engaging other players throughout Galaxy. If you do not know how to queue for a Warzone, you can find directions above under the Warzone Veteran objective. Note: Player duels do not earn Valor.
To track your Valor, open up your Character Window (‘C’ by default) and review your current Valor level (located on the bottom left side of the character window). You can also hover your mouse over the Valor bar as shown here:

Once your character reaches Valor level 5, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Valor” to note that you have completed this objective.

Rewards

CHAMPION LEVEL REWARDS:

  • Victorious Trailblazer’s Armor Set
  • Victorious Pioneer’s Armor Set: Gloves and Boots – grants +10% Bonus XP (full set grants +50% Bonux XP)!
  • 15 Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Packs (includes one “Best of” Dark or Light themed weapon, gear, mount, decoration, color crystal or dye from previous cartel packs plus either an XP Boost or Companion gift)
  • In-Game Title: “The Champion Victor”

COMPLETE ALL THESE CHALLENGES TO UNLOCK YOUR REWARDS:

    • Complete all 16 Chapters of Knights of the Fallen Empire Expansion on 1 Character (Chapter 15 launches June 30 and Chapter 16 launches late July)
    • Complete all Flashpoints in Solo or Tactical Mode
    • Reach Valor Rank 5
    • Complete 5 Alliance Alerts

Eternal Level Guide

Below you will find each objective required to complete the Eternal Tier of the Dark vs. Light event. Notice the “spoiler” button associated with each objective. If you would like more information on how to complete that objective, simply click that objectives spoiler button for more details.

To participate in the Dark vs. Light event, you must use a character created on or after June 28, 2016. You will know if your character is participating in the event if they have the following icon present on the Character Select screen.

Objectives:

Republic Icon

To complete the objective “Republic Icon”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and gain enough experience to gain Character level 65 with any Republic Class. Republic Classes include Trooper, Smuggler, Jedi Knight, and Jedi Consular. In order to reach level 65, you simply need to play almost any part of Star Wars: The Old Republic. This includes Missions, Warzones, Flashpoints, and more! To track your progress, simply look at your character’s current level, listed next to your portrait.

Once your Republic Character reaches level 65, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Republic Icon” to note that you have completed this objective.

Imperial Icon

To complete the objective “Imperial Icon”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and gain enough experience to gain Character level 65 with any Imperial Class. Imperial Classes include Bounty Hunter, Imperial Agent, Sith Warrior, and Sith Inquisitor. In order to reach level 65, you simply need to play almost any part of Star Wars: The Old Republic. This includes Missions, Warzones, Flashpoints, and more! To track your progress, simply look at your character’s current level, listed next to your portrait.
Once your Imperial Character reaches level 65, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Imperial Icon” to note that you have completed this objective.

Eternal Contender

To complete the objective “Eternal Contender”, you must take a light and dark event character and defeat Lanos in round five of the Eternal Championship. In order to compete in the Eternal Championship your character must be at level 65 and have completed Chapter IX: The Alliance.
To access the Eternal Championship, you will want to head to the Platform 6 Cantina on Zakuul. You will want to start by traveling to Zakuul via your player ship.

When you land on Zakuul, you will be located in the Undercity Central. You will need to head from there, into the Undercity Plaza. Please follow the map below to get there (you can view your own map by pressing ‘M’, by default)

Once you are in the Undercity Plaza, head straight to the Platform 6 Cantina. Follow the map below for directions.

When you have entered the Platform 6 Cantina, seek out Dominaire. Speak with him and he will grant you the “Enter the Mysterious Stranger” Mission.

That Mission will send you to the Arena Grand Events Mission terminal just a short distance away.

Use that Terminal to pick up the [Solo] The Eternal Championship Mission. Simply follow the markers for that Mission to begin the Eternal Championship. After completing a round in the Eternal Championship, you will have the option to continue on in the competition or to exit. You will need to continue defeating opponents until you reach round five, where you will face off against Lanos. Once you defeat Lanos you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Eternal Contender” to note that you have completed this objective.

Rewards

ETERNAL LEVEL REWARDS:

  • The merciless Darth Hexid Companion or the courageous Master Ranos Companion – your Dark or Light side decisions in-game will determine which Companion reward gets unlocked!
  • 15 Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Packs (includes one “Best of” Dark or Light themed weapon, gear, mount, decoration, color crystal or dye from previous cartel packs plus either an XP Boost or Companion gift)
  • In-Game Title: “The Eternal Victor”

COMPLETE ALL THESE CHALLENGES TO UNLOCK YOUR REWARDS:

  • Reach Level 65 with a Republic Character
  • Reach Level 65 with an Imperial Character
  • Complete Round 5 of the Eternal Championship

Legendary Level Guide

Below you will find each objective required to complete the Legendary Tier of the Dark vs. Light event.

To participate in the Dark vs. Light event, you must use a character created on or after June 28, 2016. You will know if your character is participating in the event if they have the following icon present on the Character Select screen.

Objectives:

Gree Slayer

To complete the objective “Gree Slayer”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and defeat 50 Gree droids, during the Relics of the Gree Event. In order to participate in the event you must have a level 65 character and the event must be active. The event will be running from June 8-15, August 23-30, and October 18-25. In order to kill Gree droids, you should head to the Western Ice Shelf on Ilum.

Once there, look for and kill any Droid enemy NPCs that you find.

Once your Character has killed 50 Gree droids, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Gree Slayer” to note that you have completed this objective.

Living Plague

To complete the objective “Living Plague”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and defeat 50 Rakghouls during the Rakghoul Resurgence event. In order to participate in the Rakghoul Resurgence event, you must have a character of at least level 20. To get started, you will want to head to your respective fleet and look a terminal which grants you a Mission. This is what the terminal looks like:

Doing so will grant you the Mission “Combating the Plague” if you are Imperial, or “To Fight Infection” if you are Republic. Follow the Mission steps and they will eventually lead you to the Rakghoul Tunnels located on Alderaan, Tatooine, or Corellia. Once you are inside the tunnels, any Rakghouls that you kill will count towards this objective.
Once your Character has killed 50 Rakghouls, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Living Plague” to note that you have completed this objective.

Plaguebearer

To complete the objective “Plaguebearer”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and infect five other players with the Rakghoul plague during the Rakghoul Resurgence event. In order to infect another player with the Rakghoul plague, you must first get the plague yourself. To get the plague, simply fight against Rakghouls during the Rakghoul Resurgence event. If you need help in finding Rakghouls, please refer to the “Living Plague” objective listed above.
With the plague contracted, you will continually get more and more sick until finally your character will explode. This explosion will kill your character and spread the plague to anyone in the immediate area who does not have the plague.
Once your Character has spread the Rakghoul plague to five other players, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Plaguebearer” to note that you have completed this objective.

Dreaded News

To complete the objective “Dreaded News”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and defeat any 50 non-player opponents on Oricon. In order to defeat enemies on Oricon, you will want your character to be of level 55 or higher. Simply use your player ship to travel to Oricon and once you arrive, kill all non-player opponents that you find.

Once your Character has defeated 50 non-player opponents, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Dreaded News” to note that you have completed this objective.

Giant Killer

To complete the objective “Giant Killer”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and defeat five world bosses, which are spread around the Galaxy. In order to defeat one of these world bosses you will need to gather together a large group of fellow players, coordinate your tactics, and try to take down these fearsome foes. The enemies you will need to take down are:

  • The Rogue Cartel Warbot found on Quesh
  • Snowblind on Hoth
  • The Primal Destroyer on Belsavis
  • Ulgo Siegebreaker on Alderaan
  • The Worldbreaker Monolith on Ziost

Each of these enemies are hidden somewhere on their respective planet, so it may take some time for you and your group to track them down. As an example, you can find the Rogue Cartel Warbot on Quesh inside of Gonk’s Infinite Loop. You can see its location on the map below:

Once your Character has found and defeated all five world bosses, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Giant Killer” to note that you have completed this objective.

Dragonslayer

To complete the objective “Dragonslayer”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and defeat the five specified Operation bosses. In order to defeat an Operation boss, you will need to join with 7 or 15 other players to complete a full group that is ready to tackle an Operation. In order to enter an Operation, we recommend checking the highlighted Story Mode Operation, listed in your group finder. It is a great way to jump into a group with other players and it changes every day.

The bosses that you need to defeat and their locations are as follows:

  • Karagga the Unyielding in Karagga’s Palace
  • Operator IX in Terror From Beyond
  • Sparky in Ravagers
  • Gate Commander Draxus in Dread Fortress
  • Titan 6 in Scum and Villainy

Once your Character has defeated these five bosses, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Dragonslayer” to note that you have completed this objective.

Eternal Champion

To complete the objective “Eternal Champion”, you must take a light and dark event character and defeat Zotar in round ten of the Eternal Championship. In order to compete in the Eternal Championship your character must be at level 65 and have completed Chapter IX: The Alliance.
To access the Eternal Championship, you will want to head to the Platform 6 Cantina on Zakuul. You will want to start by traveling to Zakuul via your player ship.

When you land on Zakuul, you will be located in the Undercity Central. You will need to head from there, into the Undercity Plaza. Please follow the map below to get there (you can view your own map by pressing ‘M’, by default)

Once you are in the Undercity Plaza, head straight to the Platform 6 Cantina. Follow the map below for directions.

When you have entered the Platform 6 Cantina, seek out Dominaire. Speak with him and he will grant you the “Enter the Mysterious Stranger” Mission.

That Mission will send you to the Arena Grand Events Mission terminal just a short distance away.

Use that Terminal to pick up the [Solo] The Eternal Championship Mission. Simply follow the markers for that Mission to begin the Eternal Championship. After completing a round in the Eternal Championship, you will have the option to continue on in the competition or to exit. You will need to continue defeating opponents until you reach round ten, the final round, where you will face off against Zotar. Once you defeat Zotar you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Eternal Champion” to note that you have completed this objective.

Flashpoint Master

To complete the objective “Flashpoint Master”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and complete every Hard Mode Flashpoint which includes:

  • Assault on Tython (both the Empire and Republic version)
  • Athiss
  • Battle of Ilum
  • Battle of Rishi
  • Blood Hunt
  • Boarding Party
  • Cademimu
  • Czerka Core Meltdown
  • Czerka Corporate Labs
  • Depths of Manaan
  • Directive 7
  • Hammer Station
  • Kaon Under Siege
  • Korriban Incursion (both the Empire and Republic version)
  • Legacy of the Rakata
  • Lost Island
  • Maelstrom Prison
  • Mandalorian Raiders
  • Taral V
  • The Black Talon
  • The Esseles
  • The False Emperor
  • The Foundry
  • The Red Reaper

Hard Mode Flashpoints are action-packed adventures made to be played by characters with a group of other players. First, start by clicking on the Group Finder icon located at the top left of your mini-map. This will bring up the Group Finder interface.

With the Group Finder interface up, you are only a few clicks away from the action! At the top of the interface, select your preferred playstyle between Damage, Healing, and Tanking (note: you can select more than one option).

Now, for this objective you will need to play through the Hard Mode versions of the Flashpoints. Hard Mode Flashpoints are meant to be a challenge for a group of four players. Keep in mind that you have to complete each Flashpoint listed above to complete the “Flashpoint Master” objective, refer earlier in this section for which Flashpoints you need. To queue for a specific Hard Mode Flashpoint follow these steps:
First, go to the Story Mode Operations and Tactical Flashpoints sections and make sure that they are not checked.

Once that is completed, scroll down to the Hard Mode Flashpoints section. Once there, click on the selection filter button in the top right of that section. On that pop-up you can select only the Flashpoints that you still need to complete.

With your Flashpoints selected, press the Join Queue button. Once your group is ready you will receive a pop-up indicating that you can join the Flashpoint. Press Join Group to hop in! Repeat these steps and complete each Flashpoint in the “Flashpoint Master” objective to complete it.

Ace Starfighter

To complete the objective “Ace Starfighter”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and complete five Galactic Starfighter matches. Any Dark vs. Light character of any level is able to participate in a Starfighter match. In order to join a Starfighter match, start by opening the Galactic Starfighter user interface. You can do this by pressing H (by default) or clicking on the Starfighter icon on the left of your mini-map.

From the Starfighter interface you can change ships, change ship components, cosmetics, and most importantly you can queue for a match. To jump into a match simply click the Battle button located in the bottom right of the Starfighter interface.

After a time, you will see a pop-up indicating that your match is ready.
Once your Character has completed five Galactic Starfighter matches, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Ace Starfighter” to note that you have completed this objective.

Warzone Veteran

To complete the “Warzone Veteran” objective, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and complete five Warzones. A Warzone is an 8 vs 8 player vs player encounter. In order to complete a Warzone, follow these steps.
In the far bottom right your mini-map area, you will see and icon which is in the shape of your faction’s logo. Right-click on that icon and then left-click on “Queue Solo.”
Once you have entered the Warzone Queue, your icon will begin flashing. It may take some time for a Warzone match to populate, but once your match is ready you will see the following pop-up:

Simply click enter now to be placed in a Warzone! Play five of these matches through to completion and once that is done, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Warzone Veteran” to note that you have completed this objective.

Manhunter

To complete the objective “Manhunter”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and complete three Bounty Contracts. Completing a contract can only happen during the Bounty Contract Week event which happens for one week each month. In order to complete a Bounty Contract, you will need to have a character of at least level 15. To get started, seek out a Captured Bounty which can be spotted at various intersections of your faction’s fleet. They look like this:

After a short cinematic, you will be directed to the Cartel Bazaar section of the fleet. There you will find a Mission terminal which grant Bounty Contract Missions tied to the event.

Simply pick up one of the available Bounty Missions and follow the Mission directions to complete a Bounty Contract. Note that only one Bounty Contract can be completed each day. Once your Character has completed three Bounty Contracts, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Manhunter” to note that you have completed this objective.

Ziost

To complete the objective “Ziost”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and complete the entire Ziost storyline. In order to access the Ziost storyline you must have a character who is at least level 55, who has completed the Shadow of Revan storyline. With that criteria met, head to the Mission terminal on your class ship, there you will find a Mission called “A Presence on Ziost.”

Continue through that main story Mission on Ziost. Once your Character has completed the Mission “For Ziost,” you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Ziost” to note that you have completed this objective.

Alliance Hero

To complete the objective “The Story Continues”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and gain enough experience to gain Character level 50 with all eight Classes. In order to reach level 50, you simply need to play almost any part of Star Wars: The Old Republic. This includes Missions, Warzones, Flashpoints, and more! To track your progress, simply look at your character’s current level, listed next to your portrait.
You must have one level 50 of each of the following eight Classes:

  • Jedi Knight
  • Jedi Consular
  • Smuggler
  • Trooper
  • Sith Warrior
  • Sith Inquisitor
  • Imperial Agent
  • Bounty Hunter

Once all eight Classes among your Characters have reached level 50, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Alliance Hero” to note that you have completed this objective.

Crafting Virtuoso

To complete the objective “Crafting Virtuoso”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and reach maximum skill level (550) with all six Crafting Crew Skills. The six Crafting Crew Skills are:

  • Armormech
  • Armstech
  • Artifice
  • Biochem
  • Cybertech
  • Synthweaving

In order to pick up a Crew Skill, you will want to seek out that specific Crew Skills trainer located in the Strongholds & Crew Skills section of your respective fleet.

Once there, simply talk to the Crew Skill trainer and you will learn that skill. Note that you can only have one Crafting Crew Skill per character.
In order to level up a Crafting Crew Skill, you will need to craft individual items. To do so, open the Crew Skills user interface by press B (by default) or clicking on the Crew Skills icon, located at the top of your screen.
This will bring up a list of all of your currently trained Crew Skills, your skill level, and any available Companions. Located next to the Companions you will see an icon which indicates your available Crew Skills, click that icon.

This will bring up the Crafting: user interface, it is here that will begin crafting items. You can select items to craft using the left side of the interface. On the right you can see the materials that are needed to craft each item. In order to gather crafting materials, you will want to learn the necessary Gathering Crew Skills. You train these in the same way that you learned your Crafting Crew Skill earlier in the guide.
Once you have your Gathering Crew Skill, you can gain materials by either sending your Companions on Gathering Missions, or by harvesting from gathering nodes out in the galaxy.
Now that you have the item you want to craft, and the materials required to make it, simply hit the “Craft” button in the bottom right corner and your chosen Companion will begin crafting. Crafting an item takes time, from a few seconds to several minutes. Once the item is done being crafted you will receive a message on your screen, and the item will be placed in your inventory.

As your Crafting Skill increases, be sure to visit your Trainer to learn new schematics!
Once you have reached skill level 550 with all six Crafting Crew Skills, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Crafting Virtuoso” to note that you have completed this objective.

Merciless

To complete the objective “Merciless”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and gain enough Dark side points to reach Dark V Alignment. As you play through story Missions, you will have many choices that you make. Often, these choices will have an impact and will grant you Dark or Light side points, depending on what you choose. During a conversation, you may see these icons which indicate that a choice will grant you Dark or Light points, respectively.

As you make these choices, you will accumulate points. As these points increase you will achieve new levels of Dark or Light side alignment. You can check how many points you have earned for each side on your character sheet (C by default) and looking on the left of your character.

Once your Character has made enough Dark side decisions to reach Dark V alignment, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Merciless” to note that you have completed this objective.

Righteous

To complete the objective “Righteous”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and gain enough Light side points to reach Dark V Alignment. As you play through story Missions, you will have many choices that you make. Often, these choices will have an impact and will grant you Dark or Light side points, depending on what you choose. During a conversation, you may see these icons which indicate that a choice will grant you Dark or Light points, respectively.

As you make these choices, you will accumulate points. As these points increase you will achieve new levels of Dark or Light side alignment. You can check how many points you have earned for each side on your character sheet (C by default) and looking on the left of your character.

Once your Character has made enough Dark side decisions to reach Light V alignment, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Righteous” to note that you have completed this objective.

The Collector

To complete the objective “The Story Continues”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and find five new datacrons which are hidden around the galaxy. Datacrons are meant to be hidden items for you, the galactic explorer to discover, so we don’t want to ruin the fun of the discovery. To ensure that you know what to look for, we will use the new Voss datacron as an example. This datacron can be found in the Desolation Pass on Voss and looks like this:

Your character must discover and interact with all five of the new datacrons, they are located on the following planets:

  • Ilum
  • Makeb
  • Nar Shadaa
  • Oricon
  • Voss

    Once your Character has discovered all five datacrons, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: The Collector” to note that you have completed this objective.

Big Earner

To complete the objective “Big Earner”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and earn 1,000,000 credits. You earn credits by doing almost any game in-game action including Missions, killing non-player characters, completing Flashpoints, and more.
Once your Character has earned 1,000,000 credits, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Big Earner” to note that you have completed this objective.

Big Spender

To complete the objective “Big Spender”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and purchase the Stronghold Decoration “Datacron: Dark vs Light” from Gwhirrye Nekor in the Alliance Camp Headquarters. This decoration costs 1,000,000 credits. In order to purchase this item, you must have a character which has completed Chapter IX: The Alliance.
Start by using your player ship to travel to Odessen. Once you have reached Odessen, head into the Alliance Camps. From there you will want to move on to the Underworld Logistics section of your headquarters. There you will find Gwhirrye Nekor!

Once your Character has purchased the Datacron: Dark vs Light, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Big Spender” to note that you have completed this objective.

Ruthless Efficiency

To complete the objective “Ruthless Efficiency”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and unlock the HK-51 Companion. In order to unlock HK-51 your character must be level 50. To start the Mission, begin by heading to Belsavis.

When your ship arrives on Belsavis, you will exit onto the Belsavis Orbital Station. From your ship hangar, head directly to the Belsavis Shuttle located on the other side of the Station. Activating the shuttle will offer you a few different travel options, you will want to select Daily: Section X.

When your shuttle has arrived in Section X, look immediately to the bottom of the ramp in front of you. There you will see a Droid, either G0-A1 for Imperial or B6-31 for Republic, with an available Mission. Speak with that droid to receive the Mission Fatal Errors for Imperial or The Fatality for Republic. Follow this Mission through to completion to unlock HK-51! Separately, if you have previously unlocked HK-51 on another character within your Legacy, you can use the Legacy Unlock feature for HK-51 to complete this objective.

Once your Character has unlocked the HK-51 Companion, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Ruthless Efficiency” to note that you have completed this objective.

Rewards

LEGENDARY LEVEL REWARDS:

  • Victor’s Titan Turret Tank Mount
  • Victorious Titan’s Armor Set
  • 30 Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Packs (includes one “Best of” Dark or Light themed weapon, gear, mount, decoration, color crystal or dye from previous cartel packs plus either an XP Boost or Companion gift)
  • In-Game Title: “The Legendary Victor”

COMPLETE THESE CHALLENGES TO UNLOCK YOUR REWARDS:

  • Reach Level 50 with all 8 classes
  • Earn 1M Credits on a Character
  • Reach Dark 5 Alignment
  • Reach Light 5 Alignment
  • Kill 5 Specific World Bosses
  • Kill 5 Specific Operations Bosses
  • Complete all Hard Mode Flashpoints
  • Complete the Eternal Championship
  • ….and more!

More Info on Rewards

Once you have your Dark vs. Light character, playing through the event is a great way to explore the Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ galaxy. The event rewards and objectives are built into six levels. As you complete each level’s objectives, you will earn amazing rewards including titles, mounts, armor sets, and Force-Bound Dark vs. Light packs.

One special reward will help in progressing your journey through the event. The Victorious Pioneer’s Armor set will provide an amazing 50% Experience Boost when you are wearing the complete set! You will earn the set in three parts, from Legacy Level through Champion Level. Check later in this blog for all of the details on how to unlock the Victorious Pioneer’s Armor set.

One of the big parts of the event is the dark and light decisions that players make throughout the game. We will be tracking each decision made across the galaxy during the event. By the end, players can earn either the Merciless Darth Hexid Companion or the Valiant Master Ranos Companion – depending if the majority of choices were light side or dark side. Note, that only dark and light decisions made during conversations count towards this total.
Before we get into the detailed breakdown, let’s highlight some of the standout rewards you will be earning during the event.

Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Packs
These packs are “best of” packs that are themed around the dark and light sides. Each pack contains two slots. One slot is a “best of” Dark vs. Light item, and the other slot will contain either a Companion Gift or an Experience Boost. Below are just a few examples of what items can be found in the pack:

  • Tulak Hord’s Armor Set
  • Satele Shan’s Armor Set
  • Revan Reborn’s Armor Set
  • Black/Black and White/White Dye
  • MSM J-37 Jetpack
  • Volatile Conqueror’s Lightsaber
  • Cathar Honor Sword
  • Unstable Arbiter’s Lightsaber
  • Two new Weapon Tunings, Dark-attuned and Light-attuned
  • And more!

A few extra details on the packs -the armor sets come in three separate boxes, Upper Body, Lower Body, and Supplementary. Each item that you earn from a Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Pack is Bind on Pickup, so they cannot be sold. However, these items do unlock in collections similar to other pack items.

Victorious Pioneer’s Armor Set
As mentioned before, this armor set is an entirely new type of armor set. If you manage to complete the entire set, you will earn 50% bonus experience boost while wearing it. Unlocking the entire set will require you to complete up to Champion Level. You earn the following pieces at the following Levels:

  • Legacy Level: Helm, Chest, Legs (25% bonus experience)
  • Valiant Level: Belt, Bracer (+15% bonus experience / 40% total)
  • Champion Level: Gloves, Boots (+10% bonus experience / 50% total)

The armor set is a moddable set which can be worn at level 1 and is bound to legacy! That means once you have unlocked the set you can freely move it to other characters in your legacy to help them level faster than ever, allowing you to move even faster through the event.

Darth Hexid and Master Ranos
These two new Companions are embedded into the core of the Dark vs. Light event. As event characters are making dark and light decisions, they are tilting the scales towards Hexis or Ranos – ultimately determining which Companion players can earn at the conclusion of the event.

All Rewards, and Their Delivery
The most important part of any event is when you get your rewards! Let’s review each individual Level, what their rewards are and when you can expect to receive them. Similar to a PvP Ranked Season, many of the rewards are going to come at the end of the event. When reviewing the list below, any reward that is noted with * you will receive at the end of the event later this fall. All other rewards you will earn as soon as you complete the Dark vs. Light level to which the reward is attached.

Heroic Level

  • 5 Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Packs
  • In-Game Title: “The Heroic Victor”

Legacy Level

  • Shade Stalker Runt Mini-pet*
  • Victorious Pioneer’s Armor: Helm, Chest, Legs
  • 10 Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Packs
  • In Game Title: “The Destined Victor”

Valiant Level

  • Victorious Trailblazer’s Bike Mount*
  • Victorious Pioneer’s Armor: Belt, Bracer
  • 10 Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Packs
  • In Game Title: “The Valiant Victor”

Champion Level

  • Victorious Trailblazer’s Armor Set*
  • Victorious Pioneer’s Armor: Gloves, Boots
  • 15 Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Packs
  • In Game Title: “The Champion Victor”

Eternal Level

  • Darth Hexid or Master Ranos Companion*
  • 15 Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Packs
  • In Game Title: “The Eternal Victor”

Legendary Level

  • Victor’s Titan Turret Tank Mount*
  • Victorious Titan’s Armor Set*
  • 30 Force-Bound Dark vs. Light Packs
  • In Game Title: “The Legendary Victor”

As you can see the event offers you a wide array of amazing rewards. Once the event starts on June 28th be sure to make a new character and start your dark vs. light adventure!

Q&A

Dark vs. Light Event | 06.23.2016, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by DarthYun

Dear Muscoman,
Are these goals retroactive? So for example if you already leveled all classes to 50.

DarthYunman,

They are not retroactive. They can only be earned with an event character, which is any character created on or after June 28th when the event goes live.

-eric

Dark vs. Light Event | 06.23.2016, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Terwilliger

Query: you don’t need every achievement to be on the same Legacy for each reward tier, do you?

Answer: Each level’s objectives are tracked through the Legacy Achievement system. This means that you must finish the objectives within one Legacy in order to complete them.

-eric

Dark vs. Light Event | 06.23.2016, 03:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by snave

Hey Eric. Anything in place for people who have no free character spots?

There are a few options:

  • Complete the objectives on a different server than the server where you are capped.
  • Purchase additional Character Slots (to make this easier the team is planning to put these on sale at the start of the event)

-eric

Dark vs. Light Event | 06.23.2016, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Iymurra

Eric,
Do the 8 characters that we need to level need to be active at the end of the event or can we delete them as we hit 50 to achieve the Alliance Hero requirement?
Many of us no longer have 8 free character slots on our primary legacy server and have no desire to delete high level toons to create throwaway 50s.

Once you have completed the objective by receiving the achievement, that character no longer needs to be active. So you could level to 50 on a character, and then delete it.

-eric

Dark vs. Light Event | 06.23.2016, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by StarwarsHunterxx

Hello everyone! I just wanted to know if the rewards are account wide(like the monthly subscriber rewards and such) or is it Legacy or character wide? Because this is really going to affect how I can do this.

Good question! The rewards are delivered in three different methods, depending on the reward:

  • Titles – These are tied to the Achievement and therefore are unlocked for each character in the Legacy.
  • Dark vs. Light Packs and Pioneer Armor Set – These will be delivered via in-game mail to the character who completes the final objective in that event level.
  • End of event Cosmetic Rewards – Things like the Companion and the vehicles will come at the end of the event and will be delivered to every character on the account, similar to the monthly sub rewards.

-eric

Dark vs. Light Event | 06.23.2016, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by SFDebris

Eric, three questions:
1) How does this work with Start At 60 tokens? Do these automatically count as reaching level goals, or does that only apply to characters that start at level 1?
2) Could you confirm that completing each class story is NOT necessary to achieve these? I didn’t see it but just wanted to be sure that you could level any way you like and bypass them if you wish.
3) If you unlock HK-51 without running the mission, does that count, or is the mission the only permitted way?

  1. Start at 60 characters do not count. Only level 1 characters will be created as event characters.
  2. Correct, you only need to hit level 50. Class story is not required.
  3. You can use the legacy unlock for HK-51, you do not need to re-complete the mission if you did it before.
  • Sarigar

    I think that last title should be “The Legendary Grinder”.

    • AbnerDoon

      It needs to come with a regen item of Musco drinking our tears like Cartman.

  • AbnerDoon

    So pretty much start fresh and earn all your achievements again? I just finished running the main story for one of my new alts and by the time I hit Corellia it was just painful to keep going.

    It’s a little disappointing to see that even for alts that haven’t run SoR or KotFE it doesn’t count. To truly participate I need to do it all again. I have 65’s that haven’t traveled to Dromund Kaas or Coruscant yet. This would have been nice incentive to finally do the story on them.

  • atari360

    Why are my posts being deleted? I didn’t swear in the last one. Are we not allow to voice our displeasure here?

  • Ben Gimson

    This is the single worst idea I have ever seen in any MMO in my entire life.

    Fuck you Bioware. Fuck. You.

    • AerParadigm

      Don’t do it then.

      • Ben Gimson

        Like anyone is going to :’)

      • onetruth

        Stop defending them, idiot. It just makes them keep doing idiotic things like this instead of expanding the game.

    • Whitedragon

      STO did it diablo 3 did it.. seems to be the norm…

  • MKDAWUSS

    So, basically, do everything over again?

    • Sarigar

      Do everything over again in under 5 months, assuming the event ends at the end of November (fall).

  • Guest

    This is Bullshit…nothing new, just “do all the shit you did the last years AGAIN…for no good reason”

  • AerParadigm

    People seriously need to get it through their heads that all these events are optional. They’re not forcing you or making you to do it. And they’ve done similar things in the past, that it shouldn’t come as a huge surprise.

    We’re just gonna have to deal with it. End of story.

  • Bogdan Anghelescu

    Why give this to ppl who already have the shit done, neah , grind again pff

  • Nuno Bacharel

    “Crafting Virtuoso

    To complete the objective “Crafting Virtuoso”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and reach maximum skill level (550) with all six Crafting Crew Skills.”

    Not by the same toon, ofc…

    • Dianiss RG

      Considering the answer about the 8 Level-50’s and how it’s being tracked as Legacy achievements, I’ll be very surprised if you can’t do each of the six crafting skills on a single character.
      Craft it up to 550, click the X, train a different one, craft IT up to 550, repeat x6.

      • Nuno Bacharel

        Yeah… Insane :/

  • Sv3

    I wouldn’t mind doing all these if the reward is proportionately legendary. Looking at the reward compare to all that work, this is just a waste of time.

  • Lindsoal

    People will keep crying forever, u just cant please anyone can u? Well keep up the hard work and i will keep giving bioware enough money to keep creating so these smucks will have plenty to cry about

    • Ben Gimson

      Hard work? You people literally defend them on anything. They have done ZERO work for this. It’s a fucking joke XD

    • Don Loco

      Very curious as to what ‘hard work’ went into this promotion. Just redo the last five years of content for….what? To call what they are offering rewards is ridiculous at best, insulting to say the least.

  • Лев Сафаров

    Unlocking hk51 with mil credits counts? Earning mil credits by sending mil to alt by mail counts?

    • Лев Сафаров

      Well, when i read again i noticed hk51 can be unlocked for achievement for mil credits.

      • Aiko

        You also need to buy a deco for 1m for the Legendary Level.

        • Лев Сафаров

          Well, that too.

  • Eban

    Bioware masters at rehashing old crap and calling it new content.

  • onetruth

    So basically they just want us to regrind everything we’ve done since 2011, lol.

  • lolwut

    wow so i’m going to have to delete 8 of my characters since i got 40/40 toons to 65 and do virtually everything from scratch?

    • Aiko

      You can delete the char as soon you hit Level 50 – the progress for the achievement stays.

      • Лев Сафаров

        Maybe he mean he uses 4040, but can do on another server.

        • Aiko

          He can do it on another server – but that would be daft, imo.
          Char slots are gonna go in discout when the event starts.
          But if he wants to delete chars – he only needs to delete 1, since he can just delete the char as soon he reaches level 50 and start a new one.

          • advocatus diaboli

            Or transfer one

    • MTCason

      No, you can do it all on one character. No need to make more than that.

  • Havik79

    A chiss Jedi? WTF.
    So in order to get the legacy armour with 50% xp boost, you have do the whole main story, SoR, all 16 chapters of KotfE, pvp to level 5 valar, beat level 5 eternal championship, and do pretty much every fp.
    Nice, but no, and this are certainly not the best rewards.

    • MTCason

      All of which can be done in just a few days’ time. None of that is challenging and none of it requires grinding of any kind to achieve. For the FPs, you can solo many and those you can’t, you just queue up for one at a time til you have them all. Easy peasy. And you can get Valor Rank 5 within just a handful of Warzones.

      • MTCason

        Edit: Meant to put this second reply elsewhere. Dang Discus.

        • Aiko

          Everything except the Legendary Level.
          Which needs multiple chars and groups/raids.

      • Havik79

        Ah no you can’t, the last parts of the xp armour is locked behind doing every single tactical flashpoint.

  • Jose Velez-Martinez

    Screw this, I’ve got 2 servers maxed w/ 20 level 60-65’s. No way in hell I’m grinding all this out again especially since I’ve been playing since launch and have done this stuff long enough. If they really wanted it to be an event they should Retro it for people that have it done already.

  • matekel

    um, so do I get more toon slots?, a lot of the stuff cannot be done unless you creat a light/dark toon and I am at the max of 40 as is.

  • The Lord

    >celebrate the 5th anniversary of the game by having people do content they’ve been doing for the past 5 years
    Wew, Bioware

    • Anthony

      This comment wins

  • matekel

    and to continue, all my toons on the servers are above 20 so… yeah, and will my alts be able to get these companions even if they’ve done all the story prior?.

  • matekel

    and also companions look hawt imo, if that’s them I hope we can change they’re outfits!.

  • Aiko

    Reaching Eternal Level is easy.

    Legendary on ther other hand.. well it’s supposed to be hard but..
    8 Chars, all crafting crew-skills to max – doable although annoying.
    But those WBs, OPs and all the HM FPs are gonne be hard with the playerbase we have left.

    • Deshik

      devs probably hope that people will flock to do all the HMS n worldbosses

  • matekel

    I have legendary but does it matter since I cannot make new toons for the achivments?.

  • Yallida

    Ok I have hope that this will be good stuff but officially it’s suck!!! I’ve already done whole 8 stories and have all toons on 65 and no thanks not again… BW u are a**holes!

    • Deshik

      Many of us completed all 8 stories and maxed lvl 65 more than 8 times. Hell I just finished doing third consular to 65 and seeing this I now realise that I could have waited.

  • matekel

    I have 40 toons the fucking says the toon needs to be fucking made at the date all 40 toons are 50-65 and above, how is this fucking fair to the people who maxed 40 and cannot delete toons?.

    • Nomad

      I have 40 on main server but not as many on other servers…so that’s where to go if you want to do this

  • YukeKlondike

    This is an Option only event.. For you newbies, we have had many events in the past. For those who are complaining that they have 1 or 2 alts, smdh I have 18 toons.. so what.. If you want to participate then do so and stop complaining.. If you know how to do a quick grind then do so.. If you don’t want to do the event then don’t do it…

  • michael fearless

    I heard new event – I got a bit excited. SOMETHING NEW, YES.

    Or, y’know, just start over entirely and just do EVERYTHING ALL OVER AGAIN. Wait, what?

  • The Absolute Madman

    QUALITY BIOWARE AS ALWAYS FORCING US TO REPLAY THEIR CONTENT ALL OVER AGAIN FOR THIS EVENT

  • Seph

    This is a new level of absolute crap. Doing everything they can to not make new content, just rehash everything old.

  • Delphine

    The thing I am excited about is: 5 new datacrons! I have always liked getting those.

  • Whitedragon

    RE ROLL 8 CHARACTERS!

    • Dr-Waffle The-Third

      The one time I will upvote your meme Whitedragon :p

  • Matheus

    I really lote the companion rewards, but once unlocked they will be available to all my chars?

  • pokedigijedi

    ……Yeah if I do this event, I’ll probably only last up to the lv 25 reward, and that’s if I am lucky, I’m more of a casual gamer than a competitive gamer. A shame really, I would’ve liked to unlock some new companions……..namely Master Ranos

  • Sindariel

    NOT
    WORTH
    THE
    EFFORT!

  • Darkredwing

    Hang on how do I check my level again? and what is this…”group finder” thing they speak of?

    • Whitedragon

      You know the thing nobody uses..

  • Connor

    Holy crap that is a lot to do.

    • Whitedragon

      yes it is, could take a year for an average player like me. D’oh!

  • Jon Jo

    OMFG! I call dibs on whatever the hell BW’s smoking, because it sounds ahellofalot better than taking part in SWTOR: GRIND’R BUST part infinity.

  • horrash

    I’m a procrastinator and a Game Addict too…
    But if veterans players bite into this, they’re really making a point…
    That the old players that stay and do this have really no life at all and waste it on this game…

  • Burritos

    Yea sure, will create new char on server that i dont want to play, just because i already have 24 65s, toons on my server.

  • matekel

    no I bet you if they did a survey and checked how many people from say 2012 are still playing it would come down to less then 2,000, and I mean played on a weekly basis at least, they only care about the incoming millennial dipshits who won’t be there in 6 months. please them see how fucking long this lasts you dumb fucking morons.

  • matekel

    just buy more toon slots I envy you because you have the option to make more for this event I do not aka why I am telling them where then can lick me, before I pay another dime.

    • Whitedragon

      how much $ for toon slots?

      • Darkredwing

        They did say they’ll put them on sale next week which I’m gonna guess is 50%. If i’m right they’ll be 300ccs each and if you needed a full 8 slots would be 2400cc which will be $20.

        • Whitedragon

          to be honest, i only care about 2 of my characters.. the rest could be deleted and would care less.

  • zolltarif

    What a fucking stupid event! Best of “How to make use of old content and literally do nothing new” !! Fuck you Bioware, do something NEW !!! OMG that game so rekt.

  • Nomad

    so much hate already…”sigh”

    • Dr-Waffle The-Third

      For good reason.

  • Cyanocitta

    I’ll need to see better previews of them, but so far the armor rewards don’t interest me. The mount rewards don’t interest me. The companions would have been nice, but I have a crap ton of companions as it is and likely there will be little to no substantial interaction with them. The only rewards that have really piqued my interest are the light/dark attuned tunings.

    As a first reaction, I’m feeling rather underwhelmed/disappointed in this event. I supported the making old content relevant again (heroics and FPs in particular) that they did earlier with 4.x, but this just seems to be….. I…. I don’t understand this.

    Personally, I already have my 8 toons maxed at 65 and am only taking 4 through KotFE. So, I have character slots to burn. However, my current thoughts are: “Yes, I could make another toon to participate in this event, but after event it will likely simply be ignored with my 4 non-KotFE toons”. While I could do this, I don’t like to because to me it means the character would have no “life” of their own. Their entire purpose would be to run the event, and that mindset would color any creative process I would try and put into the character.

    That being said, I not completely written off participating in the event. I’m going to have to think about this for a while.

  • Jack Manny

    When I saw you had to do HK-51 again I was ready to chop my own hands off. Glad to see you can just buy your way around it. Once is more than enough. I pity those who have undertake it. The scanning is the worst.

    Not sure why people thought this was going to be, but I assumed from when they first announced it that it would just be a mega replay. Not the most exciting, but it’s the consequences that were always going to be the main thing about it. Hopefully they do have a decent plan for how this will impact the state of the galaxy.

  • Nomad

    I predict at least half the peeps complaining about this event will end up participating anyway

    • pokedigijedi

      That’s a good way of putting it.

    • Lindsoal

      And we sit back and laugh at their complaining while enjoying our games, I LOVE THIS GAME and everything bioware does to make it better!
      Ps: bioware we need more hk items plz
      (Stands aside for storm of complaints)

    • Disqus this

      Not a chance in hell would I after 5 years of being in SWTOR. Redo all 8 toons again. Not going to happen.

      • Kubrickian

        Where do you see ‘redo’ all 8 toons? Looks like you only need 1.

        • gua543

          Legendary status or whatever it’s called, the last achievement. All 8 classes to 65, max out all professions, yadayadayada.

        • Disqus this

          Someones clearly not reading what the requirements are. Read it and weep. At a minimum you have to get 2 toons to 65. At most you have to redo all 8 toons to level 50 and relevel every crafting profession.

          Everything you have done in the past 5 years or since you started playing. Throw that shit out the door and start over. It doesn’t count matter for any of this. No matter how long you already grinded out SWTOR content. Now, do it again or just pretend the event isn’t happening at all.

        • AbnerDoon

          Alliance Hero

          To complete the objective “The Story Continues”, you must take a Dark
          vs. Light event character and gain enough experience to gain Character
          level 50 with all eight Classes. In order to reach level 50, you simply
          need to play almost any part of Star Wars: The Old Republic. This
          includes Missions, Warzones, Flashpoints, and more! To track your
          progress, simply look at your character’s current level, listed next to
          your portrait.
          You must have one level 50 of each of the following eight Classes:

          Jedi Knight

          Jedi Consular

          Smuggler

          Trooper

          Sith Warrior

          Sith Inquisitor

          Imperial Agent

          Bounty Hunter

  • Lana’s Gun

    mehh I only wanted the new companions but playing 2 new character to level 65 is not worth it imo… the comps don’t even look good I hate that doggy hair they have give the chiss

  • Johnny Lately

    What a hack of shit, I just unlocked legendary with the 8 toons, now lets re-roll all 8 to do it again. What a way to fuck us in the ass prison style to those that have been playing since beta / launch.

  • matekel

    *breaks down sobbing in the corner and cries lieing in a bath tub naked cuddling a bottle of vodka.*

  • Horton

    Some of the rewards look good, but grinding all of that out again? No way. It’ll just burn me out and sour me on SWTOR. However, if it were retroactive, I’d be much more inclined to do what remaining objectives I needed to hit the new achievements I hadn’t already met.

    • Kubrickian

      I bet you could start a new toon on the 28th and achieve a good chunk of this content in a week.

  • Disqus this

    Ls/DS event. Summed up as biowares way of not making any new content. Just redo the past 5 years 8 more times.

  • Amodin

    So I’m reading this right? They can put all of this time and effort into an event but can’t update the VIP vendor, or make something alternative for those of us that have already maxed out character slots, leveled every toon, done the monthly subscription, paid for items on CM, put up with their shit and expect participation in this?

    For the first time in my SWTOR playing days, I am actually going to NOT participate in this, what an honest to god slap on the sick of those of us that have faithfully been subscribed and played since the start.

    Fuck you Bioware. No really. Fuck you.

    • Kplz

      Well said and agree 100%.

    • Darth Rassilon

      couldn’t agree with you more.

    • Kubrickian

      I’ve often lamented on their lack of vendor updating. I new set of bounty hunter armor for the bounty event or a new rancor rakghoul mount would’ve made repeating these events worthwhile.

    • Kplz

      Also, This should be the top comment. I dont see how anyone can disagree with a valid and logically argument against this point.

    • Disqus this

      Honestly, what time and effort really went into this? There is no new content to play. No new FPs or OPS or PVP zones. Just some outfits a pet and a 2 new mounts.

      Not a lot of effort from BW on anything these days. Unless I missed something here and if I did, help me see it.

    • Darth Decimus

      Your profile picture couldn’t fit better with that sort of comments LOL

    • sadface

      I will corect you: “Fuck You EAware”

  • I agree with most posters… This is a disappointment. I’ve spent the last 5 years getting 16 toons to L60+ (each class twice for their role variants). I do not want to do all of that again.

    • Mattador

      Only have to get to 50, though. That’s not too hard.

  • mike

    how long does the event last

    • Whitedragon

      I would hope 6 months or more!

  • Mes

    Should allow those who have started a new toon already to participate.

  • Kubrickian

    Kicking myself for recently leveling up a gunslinger.

    • Dr-Waffle The-Third

      That’s what you get for spending your time on SWTOR… a backstab.

  • Vincent van der Laan

    MMm basicly is more a free 2 player noob event they 🙂 always make new chars and can finish past lvl 25 xD we pro,s actauly are 65 Hm nim gear fuck this then if they spent this time in this event they would be better off making a new ops 🙂

    • Kubrickian

      The truly exclusive Leet NM mode guilds seem to have left the game permanently back around 2014.

    • Kplz

      Exactly. Instead they offer old content again and for us to start over fresh so new players have people to play with. Good thing all I do as others is come here for a nice bathroom read. Game will be dead once Legion is released.

  • wait a minute: I already have 12 characters and I’m a sub for FOUR YEARS. I played a lot already. you’re saying to be a part of this event I HAVE TO PAY FOR MORE SLOTS AND/OR DELETE CHARACTERS to PLAY ALL CHARACTERS ALL OVER AGAIN?!

    fuck you, bioware. fuck you. I defended you guys all these years even with all the bullshit and bugs and that’s what I get.

    • Kplz

      Finally people are seeing the light. Thank you for sharing

    • Sarigar

      Luiza where have you been, I missed you. 🙂

      • oh hey. nice meeting you again 🙂 a shame that recent events are killing my swtor hype…

    • Jack Manny

      The only other alternative is to play on a new server.

    • FFS

      Luiza: quit bitching you fucking faggot. Why are bitches like you crying at everything that BW does. Who gives a shit if you have no life and spent 4 years making 12 characters. Go sit in a corner and cry more.

      • Whitedragon

        LOL!

      • gua543

        Stop defending Bioware, they are literally offering gambling packs for hundreds of hours of grind. The only new stuff they made here are the 3 sets, the 2 mounts, the bunch of titles nobody is gonna use and another companion no one is going to have any interaction with because they butchered companion story lines. This event is a joke and if you decide to grind it to the end, you are a moron.

      • Racist Grandpa

        go suck an egg, you evolutionary by-product

  • Suicidebob7

    Need more character slots

  • Rokanis

    LOL, I have 24 characters made for SWTOR. Most are level 60+, the rest are either below level 60 or have yet to be created (but I’ve already worked out the details, i.e. class, discipline, appearance, gear, etc.)

    I thought this was a pretty good event until I saw the last challenge tier. I could fill some of those 8 new characters with the ones I haven’t created yet, but having to create an entirely new set of characters and level them from scratch is a real pain in the ass, and not something I have the time or energy for after playing this game for nearly 5 years.

    Why can’t people who have already completed all 8 class stories have that part of the challenge auto-completed for them? It would be a nice bonus for veteran players that have been here a long time while also not being too much of an advantage over newer ones.

    Other than that though, this event looks fun. I like how they’re incentivizing playing some game modes that don’t get much traffic more, and the rewards look pretty awesome.

  • Wyrmidon

    That really kicks long-term players in the shins. I mean, I’ve been here from the very beginning, I am so NOT going to pay for a character slot, slave through all the missions, flashpoints, operations all over again just to have the reward stuff on my main server. Too much effort, too much time required. Too little gain. Thanks, but no thanks.

    • Лев Сафаров

      ~5 months?

      • Wyrmidon

        Even if I had 5 years to do all that tedious crap, I would not. It’s just not worth the effort for a veteran player who has seen all the content several times over already.

        • Лев Сафаров

          I think i understand.

  • Jack Manny

    Here’s hoping whichever companion we all end up with that they do a proper treatment on her and not a weak one like we got with Nico. More KotFE chapter than alliance alert if that makes sense.

  • 23e23

    Anyone has a TLDR version of this?

    Are the Chiss and Zabrak girls the new companion?

    • Kplz

      Tldr:
      Tunings are the same as furious weapons and volatile
      Must max all crafting skills
      Must reach level 50 with all 8 classes
      Earn and spend 1mil credits
      And some other shit

      • gua543

        You don’t need the last one for the companions though.

    • Jack Manny

      To take part you need to create a new character after the event starts. Progress in existing characters won’t be counted.

      There are different levels with increasing rewards. For example to get the new companion you must complete the requirements for the Eternal level. You’ll need to do things like get your toon to a certain level, complete FPs, get valor levels, finish certain content, you’ll need to go through each yourself really to see what needs to be done.

      It seems that image is meant to represent the new companion.

  • Gagboot

    This is the bigest bunch of bullcrap! I am not leveling more characters goddamnit!! I have plenty and I do all endgame OPs and the story on 4 of them. The other bunch of crap is none of the rewards are tradable so they are stuck (other than armor) on the eligable toon….things like the titles and crap. This is a total waste of everyones time who has been playing from launch.

    SO they did this crap instead of making a new Operation. So dissapointed.

  • Kubrickian

    Are these items legacy bound or do they have to stay bound to this disposable toon which is probably a class/faction we won’t play as much?

    • AbnerDoon

      It looks like a mix the pack rewards are bound to the character that earns them. But you can unlock in collections. I think I read the xp armor was legacy but honestly don’t want to reread to find that bit again.

      The final rewards will be mailed to all characters on your account at the end of event.

      • Лев Сафаров

        Armor is legacy, so 1 time normal lvling and others is 50% faster.

        • Andhros

          Did some number crunching and if you purchase the class xp and have an xp boost I think you can finish additional toons with class story only. Or should be very close to it.

  • matekel

    they better end up giving us both comps, other wise they will piss off the other group who did not win and lose more subs!.

    • Jack Manny

      From above…

      One of the big parts of the event is the dark and light decisions that
      players make throughout the game. We will be tracking each decision made
      across the galaxy during the event. By the end, players can earn either
      the Merciless Darth Hexid Companion or the Valiant Master Ranos
      Companion – depending if the majority of choices were light side or dark
      side. Note, that only dark and light decisions made during
      conversations count towards this total.

      —-
      From this it sounds like we’ll all get the same comp based on whether LS or DS wins.

  • Gagboot

    My other gripe is that I have like 20+ low level toons (11 to 55) I use in PvP and now will have to delete them since they won’t be eligable. I was hoping to be able to use a few of my lowest ones. BUT NO. I still think all characters who are 65 and have any of these achievements should be immediatly rewarded for that hard work. I do not want to run a new character with shitty gear through all my OPS, FP, Heroics, Gree, Ratgoul, etc..again…solo for rewards I have already earned outright from being a launch member on 8 freakin already 65 characters,

  • Patrick Bateman

    Wait. My 14 level 65 characters are completely useless for this? Seriously? Are they being fucking serious? I have to make a new character to take part in this bullshit, and go through the bullshit boring grind yet again of leveling? They are serious, aren’t they?

    Way to fuck up your 5th year anniversary guys. I expected no less. Good job. You never fail to disappoint.

    • Patrick Bateman

      Just finished going through this fully because I blew a gasket at continually seeing characters made after June 28th are the only ones eligible. Glad I did, because I’m going to have a stroke now.

      8 times. 1-50 eight fucking times. Every single main class. And then, on top of that, you also have to do hard mode flashpoints. Every single one.

      This is abysmal. As if the fucking game wasn’t a grindfest based on 5 year old content already, to celebrate their 5 year anniversary they make it an even bigger 5 year old content grind. My head hurts. I need to lay down. This is beyond stupid. This is beyond moronic. I don’t have words for this. Who in the fuck thought this is a good idea. Honestly I’d rather have both imperial and republic fleets have a rave in the middle with a banner saying “Go fuck yourselves. Thanks for the money.” It would be less insulting.

    • Ponku

      So don’t do it if you dont want to. If you want the additional cosmetic items, then it was kinda predictable that you would need to actually do something for them, not just retroactively get it without any additional effort.

  • Devian

    8 chars? rll? ffs, bio…
    there are players who already have toons, a lot of them. I could finish 2 chars with a lot of effort, but 8? cmn…

  • jo

    These would have been awesome to add in as achievement rewards or something, but no, lord no, just no.There is absofuckinglutely nothing they could offer that would be good enough for me to grind two more characters all the way to 65 with an event time limit hanging over my head. Even if I would be willing to, I seriously doubt the comps are worth it. I doubt they will be romancable or have their own sidequests or anything at all other than the a bit of envy from other players.

  • Whitedragon

    Bioware demands you ….

    • Don Loco

      Doing this contest/event is the same as…..

      • Whitedragon

        I was thinking of leveling all female characters on another server anyway, so maybe i might beat that dead horse.

        • Don Loco

          To each their own. I honestly cannot see wasting my time for sketchy rewards at best. If they would make some of this retroactive I would consider it. Just don’t have the time or energy anymore to start over from scratch.

          • Whitedragon

            understood, but since i was thinking of doing this anyway. i just don’t like the time limit. feel rushed.

  • Emile Caitan

    I love how they made a way to make the monthly HK-55 rewards seem reasonable.

    • Disqus this

      That was fan day at the office and during their tour they took his advice. BW had no intention of going that route on their own till he spoke up.

    • Kubrickian

      waiting for the HK parts to drop is the biggest complaint heard in guildchat

      • Don Loco

        I have been unhappy with them since the launch of KOFE as it completely reset my HK-51 quest. I had two pieces left, now I have to start from scratch. Like this event, not going to happen.

        • Лев Сафаров

          Maybe will be easier to team up with other players, even in ops groups…

          • Paulo Gomes

            Or maybe it will be easier to finally give up on this and go to another MMO…

            • Лев Сафаров

              Would be cool but which? I started wow sometime ago (maybe year), sub and try it normal?..

  • Macleod

    This shit should be retroactive…I have 22 65s…I’m not f’n leveling up 8 more characters and redoing a bunch of crap for this poorly thought out event.

    • Ponku

      It’s not poorly thought out i think. It’s just not aimed for every player. Clearly not an event for you.

      • Ben Gimson

        It’s not aimed at anyone. New players aren’t going to be able to do it all and vets aren’t going to do it full stop. This ‘event’ is a failure before it’s even started.

        • Ponku

          Completionists an veterans are going to do it for the sake of having another mount or pet or gear. For them powerleveling 1-50 fast wont be that much of a problem. All those people that already have tons of max level characters will do the event. If they already invested so much time in the game, doing the same repeating stuff, they will do it again for new rewards.

          New players will have a clear roadsign what to do in the game and they will most of them achieve atleast the new companon part. Not everyone need to to everything and get legendary level. This is for the most persistent players.

          Normal casual players will have another incentive to make one or two more alts to get eternal level. They have enough knowledge of the game for it not having to be a long endevour.

          There are plenty of people who will do the event. And legendary level of rewards is not for everyone, but for the most commited players. Eternal level is the main goal of the event, with this new light/dark side system and companions.

          No matter how many people are complaining here that they are not rewarded better, this even wont be failure. Many players will participate in it and it will be a success enough.

          • Paulo Gomes

            Again, you are wrong. I’m a veteran and a completionist, and I’m definitely not going to do ANY of this. I’m not ranting because of better rewards, I’m ranting because I don’t want to be penalised for being a supporter of this game since launch! This “event” should be for EVERYONE, not for some players more than others. And furthermore, I’m concerned that time and again they choose to poorly plan these things and not take into account not everyone is going to grind the WHOLE GAME once… make that 8 times more for some stupid rewards. And yes, a WHOLE LOT of people think like me if this site and swtor.com is any indication.

            • Ponku

              And yet many of those people will still go and do the event. You may be not, but others will. yes even many of the people that are complaining about it today. That’s normal first reaction.
              The eternal level is for everyone and this is the main part of the whole event. And most people will do it.
              The legendary level is for hardcore completionists and most of them will do it. It’s the same psychology as with the WoW. If you already invested a lot of time and effort into something, you are more inclined to invest even more, even if you are not completely pleased with the outcome.

              I’m not saying the event is great, but it is also not that horrible like many people here are overreacting with their first emotional reaction to it. People are comlpaining a lot, but still many people will do it, and that is what EA/Bioware planned. Just the fact that so many people here are saying that “you need to level 8 characters 1-50”. Like this was the main requirement for the event and you get nothing if you wont do that. They look only for the most hardcore completionist reward and saying like it is a must. So for them it is a must, and that’s why a lot of them will do it anyway.

              • Paulo Gomes

                You know what? You may be right. Yes, some people will go for it even after a negative first reaction.

                But I’ll tell you what: I play a computer game for fun. A challenge, yes, but a fun challenge. This is starting to be more like a job… And I’m sorry, but to do a job, I don’t pay… I GET PAID. I can endure some grinding, hell even some seriously boring grinding… But this… This is beyond that. This is stupid. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I’ll just agree to disagree beyond this point fellow poster. Godspeed to you.

          • Ben Gimson

            Clearly you haven’t been here very long. People are sick of doing the same shit over and over, and this ‘event’ asks them to do the same stuff over again + stuff they likely never wanted to anyway.

            I’m a completionist and a veteran and I know many people like me in-game. None of them will be pissing away time on this garbage. Defend BW all you want. Fact remains people just aren’t going to bother. In fact, I’d say they’ll lose subs over this.

            This is a great way to drive away players and reduce the overall sub numbers.

            • Paulo Gomes

              Like it wasn’t enough that the latest Op we have is 1 and a half year old, that we got reashed Heroics to grind these days… Now we have to do all crafting skills again? Galactic Starfighter for the Force’s sake??? No, this WILL be a GIGANTIC flop. I’ll stake my lighsaber on that…

              • Ben Gimson

                Yup. It’s the single most pathetic idea I’ve seen to come from any gaming company, MMO or single player or other, from a lifetime of playing games. Cash shops, extortionate pricing, half-arsed content delivery- this makes everything else look downright reasonable. I hope the team feels embarrassed and ashamed that this is their grand idea of a special event for the 5th year anniversary.

                Whoever thought punishing the playerbase as an anniversary reward was the way to go needs to be sacked.

            • Ponku

              And yet i’m gonna bet that despite this first emotional overreaction to the news, many people will play the event, and overall it will be a successfull enough. I bet even you tomorrow wont be feeling as negative emotions about it like you feel now.
              It’s not a great event, but it also wont be that awfull like some people describe it.

              • Ben Gimson

                Some, but most will ignore it. The response has been overwhelming negative, and the amount of grinding this entails means people just won’t do it. The rewards aren’t even remotely worth the effort.

                Though I’m sure Musco will continue to lie through his teeth as he always does and claim the response has been great and that they’re looking forward to fucking players over more in the future.

      • Paulo Gomes

        Shouldn’t it be an event for EVERYONE??? Are there different types of players? This is an EPIC FAILURE any way you look at it.

        • Ponku

          Ofcourse there are different types of players. This event is aimed for many of them and many players will participate in it with zeal. I explained it more in nother post.

  • Sadriel_Fett

    I have a sneaky feeling that the fact veterans players have so many leveled up toons and you need newly created toons for this event, that the backlash will be so great they’ll end up having to make this retro-active. Because, let’s face it, the majority of players aren’t going to deal with all that bullcrap of rolling and leveling new toons, just for this event. I’m sorry, but that’s just plain stupid. There’s no other word for it. Most players just don’t have the time for that kind of nonsense. They’re just going to give BW a big middle finger.

    • Paulo Gomes

      Middle finger given here.

    • Don Loco

      More than delighted to give them both fingers.

    • Patrick Bateman

      I hope your right and they’ll change it, but odds are they won’t. They’ve shown time and time again that they have a level of contempt for their playerbase that is unfathomable. It’s much easier for them to just stick their fingers in their ears and say, “I’m not listening. I’m not listening.” over and over again.

      https://youtu.be/WGKUnFjzgPs?t=15s

      I like to imagine that’s what their entire development team does. However I do hope that people continue to bash them and criticize them because this is absolute bullshit. It’s such a monumental fuck you to veteran players, players that have sunk money into this game and kept it afloat, that it deserves pushback.

      • Лев Сафаров

        I just couldn’t resist.

    • Ponku

      I don’t think that there is that many people who have all classes leveled to max. I consider myself an average player and i have spent quite a lot of my gaming time in SWTOR and i have 3 characters leveled to max. I actually was thinking about starting one of two other classes i’m considering and now i have another incentive to do that, with additional rewards and pointers what exactly should i do.
      And for people who are completionists, they will be powerleveling their chars again to get that additional mount or title or piece of gear.
      I don’t think that this event is that bad, and i kinda like the premise of it.

      • AbnerDoon

        On Harb alone I have 18 or 19 level 65’s and 3 others between 45-61. Heck the only server I don’t have 65’s or a legacy on is Bastion.

        Anytime you see a golden sea monkey icon besides their name means that player has all 8 classes to story end. If the legacy achievements didn’t bug on them that is.

      • Paulo Gomes

        You are wrong. There are TONS of people that have done the 8 classes already, I meself have 24 toons, I know people that are at max cap. This is a good idea only for those fairly recent to the game, I CANNOT for the life of me think that anybody that is a Legendary player looking forward to this.

        • Don Loco

          I have 35+ toons across three servers, with 21 of them at level 65. I have done KOFE on four of said toons with little inclination to do a repeat, much less rehash EVERYTHING I’ve done over the past five years. If this is how they think to keep veteran players they ought to share what the hell they are smoking so the rest of us can be happy about this as well.

          • Paulo Gomes

            I have 24 65 on The Red Eclipse ALONE. Of those I chose 8 to do KotFE while the expansion is running, and I was LOATHING the prospect of having to do it with the rest of them loooool… Mind you, that stuff they smoke in Austin might come in handy…

      • onetruth

        It’s a problem because it shows that BioWare is either creatively bankrupt or financially bankrupt. The latter seems unlikely, given how many infinitely replaceable 1s and 0s they sell in their cash shop, and the former is funking sad given the company’s history.

        Good for you that you’ve managed to barely get anything done in the five years the game has been out. The people who have – and who have been supporting the game forever – get nothing out of this asinine “event.”

  • Darth-Robin

    only problem i have is the legendary crap with the 8 classes that is fucking idiotic period.
    valor easy just pvp from lvl 10, esseles/black talon easy join GF at lvl 10
    all teh tacticals fine, all hm? thats gonna be a problem ops aswell since ops passes are being sold for 1.8 mil and higher worldbosses and such are achieveable

  • Paulo Gomes

    Time and time again they shit on long time players. I’ve been hoping the game does a left turn somewhere, but it seems I’m being naive, to put it mildly…

    I have 24 level 65 characters, I don’t excel at ALL of them, but I have a selected few in which I do think I’m pretty good. Those are waiting for some kind of Endgame content to be released, but these guys think only about recycling old stuff.

    This has got to be the WORST thing they could think of for long time players. Sure, I get that for those new or relatively new to the game this is a blast. Well, for me and for guys like me it’s a freaking nightmare.

    So we leveled our toons to max level, and now we have to do it ALL OVER AGAIN??? WTF?!? WHY??? I know people that have 40 plus characters… Are you fucking kidding me???

    Oh I know where my doe is gonna go… TESO here I go, I have no more patience for these guys…

    Sorry for all the expletives. I don’t usually use them, but this is really LAME.

    Fuck you Bioware.

    • Лев Сафаров

      A, all be alright. Think of how many new sw games will be later.

  • Dr-Waffle The-Third

    I have mixed opinions… I think it’s a cool idea, but I don’t want to do it after playing for 4 years. I have completed all the stories multiple times, and I really don’t want to do it again as it won’t be enjoyable to me. I’m really sick of them recycling content for new players. It feels like the loyal players are getting punished just for the sake of new player appeal, which causes loyal players to leave. Why not reward the loyal players for being here so long? fuck you bioware.

    I mean, I suppose the rewards do you look interesting indeed, and they are trying to introduce content that does not get much traffic. but I see this as them recycling content… A new operation would be much nicer.

  • Jay Asher

    Pffft this should be easy guys. Any of us that have over 10 lvl 65’s should know how to power level in this game and just use money and legacy from other toons to super power it through legacy perks. LVL50 legacy with so much unlocked and either essaxs or black talon with fp legacy boost you’ll be 65 and past everything in 3 days at most and that’s just the annoyance of doing the story lines over like you’re an undying god.

    • gua543

      You’re going to be powerleveling just for the sake of getting gear that will allow you to powerlevel even faster.

      • Лев Сафаров

        Looks like closed circle, almost.

      • Ponku

        That’s the essence of an MMO 🙂

  • Darth-Robin

    though i am saving 2 spots for an rep and imp char for this, ill delete 1 char and use that as placeholder for the 6 other chars lvl up 1 each to lvl 50 to check it off delete and rinse and repeat, only need to be lvl 50 for it its doable but really really fucking retarded:P

  • Seph

    This “event” is a pretty large slap in the face to longtime players. It’s clear that BW is doing everything they can to drag this game out without adding true content. A half hour of story per month it is BW. GG.

    • Whitedragon

      I think they want veteran players to leave

  • The Sacrifice

    i wont do everything i have done in the last 3 years to get some packs or titles or other bullsh*t

  • Zak Ember

    I just put together a video analyzing this! Check it out!!! Feel free to comment and let me know how you feel about the new event!

    • Don Loco

      “This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.” Thanks but does nothing for me.

      • Zak Ember

        Should be all fixed up now. Thanks again for the heads-up… man, you try to put a little music in the background, and you get banned from 277 countries! Yeesh!

  • Cally

    Saving the biggest troll move up to the 5 Year Anniversary.

    Point Taken Biofail.

  • Lithari

    So….boring.

    Our companion’s Alignment should be changeable for the get go, like the Sith Warrior’s Apprentice, that is what would be cool.

    But do you do that? nooooo, no you don’t.

    • Don Loco

      They take the path of least resistance and swear it’s what the ‘metrics’ pointed to.

  • Mer Vila

    I have 16 65´s… one per each class. Now I have to re-roll at least half of them? Fuck it, not going to do that. The alternative is starting fresh in another server, or just moving 1 toon to get all my previous unlocks, right? Not good enough, all my legacy gear will be lost in at least 1 server 🙁 I dont see the point in trying to force us to restart the whole game, really. I´m totally not going for this.

    • John Kosto

      You can do 5 out of 6 tiers of rewards, that’s what I will do. Not gonna bother for the Legendary one. It would take 10 times more time than the first 5 combined

      • Mer Vila

        They should do this retroactive – period-

        • John Kosto

          Nah, that wouldn’t make any sense. They could just have a totally new set of missions and material, instead of that crap.

  • Zak Ember

    I just put together a video on all this, I’d love to know what you guys think! I’m sure we all feel… *strongly* about this!

    https://youtu.be/EwYCEhMgVpI

    • Don Loco

      Sorry but these videos don’t work. Perhaps for you all in the EU it will, here no soap.

      • dosntworx

        Nope, I’m in the EU (Germany) and it doesn’t work because there must be some music from Sony Music Entertainment in it.

      • Zak Ember

        Hey Don! Yeah, I had a music track in the background for atmosphere that was from SW:EPIII, I put up a new version without the music that you can view here:

  • 23e23

    Level 8 new chars on leve 50, this is a bit too much.

    But I’ll try it, as long as I don’t have to keep them after reaching level 50.

    • Лев Сафаров

      Dont worry, you have ~5 months.

  • BrianDavion

    so this grand event amounts to “play the same shit you’ve been playing for years already” REALLY?!

  • 23e23

    Dark vs Light. Uh huh.

    More of an “Play every byte of this game again!”-Event.
    🙂

  • Jerry

    Wow. So there’s gonna be 3-6 months of no new anything of any kind while they work on KOTFE season 2 and they created… basically a 2nd achievement system to encourage people to do old content again.
    I expected it to be lame but wow. This is whole new level of desperate.

    • Ben Gimson

      Agreed. I had low expectations but this is just mind-blowingly pathetic.

  • Liron Ben-David

    Kudos for the guide team dulfy but

    Fuck bioware. its like they try on purpose to drive to old veteran playerbase away. most of us already have 8+ characters at 55 with all stories completed and every tiny bit of quest done including legacy 50 and darklight V. this is just… screw this I’m not playing all that again I prefer to play something else and as such my money will go to another company which actually add new content. *looking at you ESO*.

  • guest

    Every HM FP, that is too much grind.
    But all 8 classes to 50 in what is going to be a 2-4 month event?
    That’s not right. Hopefully they are forced to remove that or at least make that specific achievement count your existing characters because that is just ridiculous.

  • guest

    ANOTHER leveling grind was honestly the last thing I was expecting from this event.

    Its like their only solution for people being starved for content is forcing us to level more toons.
    Sad.

  • Stella

    So, this basically seems like it’s an event meant for players that are new to the game 🙁 I guess I’ll level up a toon or two during it, but I’ve been playing since launch and it seems a bit meh to not reward the toons I’ve already taken through this stuff.

    • Andhros

      All toons get rewarded, but not all toons can participate. Looks like 1 toon start to finish will unlock most of the stuff with extremely dedicated players receiving the last tier.

  • Frigi

    I have 39 characters on my primary server… I could do all of this on some other server, but would not have much use for the BoP or legacy based rewards on other servers. I could use my final slot to create and delete characters to get it all done on my primary server.. still losing out on the majority of BoP rewards.

    I figured maybe I could get myself to delete one existing character.. use one slot for a character to collect as many of those packs (since getting armor sets divided in BoP parts boxes spread over various characters that will get deleted after use makes them pointless) and the other slot to finish what I can’t finish on that one character, by creating and deleting..

    That all seems like an awful lot of trouble to have to go through just to be able to benefit from an event that exists of things that I’ve already done and things that I’ve consciously chosen not to do at all.

    • Schnitzelboy

      If you’ve done all the Achievements on the other server and tranfer one character to your main Legacy server, the Achievements should be tranfered.

      But you better double check this from an official source.

      • Frigi

        Doing things I’ve done before and things I chose not to do and then also have to pay to be allowed to benefit from its rewards is really not sounding any better at all.

  • Name12345

    Didn’t check, but “Additional Character Slot” must be going through the roof by now at the GTN.

  • TheBob

    So, in other words for longtime players they want you to re-do everything essentially in their game if you want these rewards…wow….

    • Paulo Gomes

      Yep… Imagine the joy we get by doing that…

      • Andhros

        I am in tears of joy. Bioware truly loves me. I swear since nothing new was dropping this summer my brothers and I decided that we were gonna replay 1 Imp and 1 Rep. So now we just have to wait til the weekend of the 4th and we can get all these new rewards as we play.

        Although no way am I planning on trying for that last tier. Definitely seems aimed at new players, or lucky old players.

    • Hipsterboy

      Old content is the new content.

    • Drivan

      All the more reason to make ESO the only game I play and ditch SWTOR completely. SCREW these jokers.
      They can’t be bothered to actually come up with something creative, no instead they make an event consisting of already available content…

  • Divona

    This is crazy. So old players would have to relevel new characters of EACH class both light and dark side to at least 50 on top of that complete ALL ingame activities including flashpoints many operation bosses and events. If you miss one event its over all the hard work is gone if you aim for highest rewards.
    Ouch i dont even know where to begin to say that this is not going to happen…

  • Dr-Waffle The-Third

    Soo…. I wrote out a well thought paragraph for my opinion. And somehow, someway it was detected as spam and deleted FML.

    • Ben Gimson

      This is such a shit idea it doesn’t justify the effort of a well-thought paragraph -_-

      • Dr-Waffle The-Third

        True lol

  • RecycleWareMusco

    EA: We have founded a new developer studio: RecycleWare.

    Expect awesome amazing stuff comming, stuff you already played. Awesome. Soon!

    • Accurate username.

    • Лев Сафаров

      I like that wind sound they used in mass effect 1 and swtor and other games.

  • Ceniza

    Yeah… F this. Way to reward people like me that have been playing since launch. I *might* do this on one toon, maybe. But no way in Hell am I leveling 8 toons again. I’ve already leveled 18 toons to 60+ (most to 65). Urge to unsub rising.

    • Zak Ember

      I feel your pain, man. I just talked about that on my YouTube vid… I have 30 toons, so having to grind up another one feels pretty hurtful from BioWare.

  • Zak Ember

    Hey guys! I just put together a video analyzing this! I’d love to hear your thoughts, feelings, and comments on this new event, so click the link below to check out my YouTube video and weigh in on the issue!!!

    https://youtu.be/mUFJbbRf1dw

  • Josh S.

    This event would be much better if they turned off Sprint until level 15 for DvL characters, brought back the crate box loop on Ilum, and required a win of every on-rails space mission.

    • Don Loco

      The sarcasm is heavy with this one.

    • Лев Сафаров

      For second i thought you serious, good one. (:

    • Andhros

      We should also have to max at least 1 companion to 50 influence.

    • Paulo Gomes

      I applaud this guy right here. He can keep a sense of humor about this. I can’t. Kudos man…

  • Drivan

    So let me get this right, people who have been playing for 5 years have to level yet another toon, from scratch and basically start all over. This event is the “we are gonna give you reskined shit for leveling a character” event…”

    LAME
    LAME
    LAME
    LAME

    By far the WORST in game event in any game ever….
    BW you are frakin’ stupid!

    • Disqus this

      Not just one toon but all 8. 2 need to reach level 65 and the other 6 have to reach 50 and lets not forget you also have to relevel every crafting profession. Look at how fun that will be. 🙁

      • Andhros

        Yep. Also likely PUG for WB, HMFP and Ops.

  • Unoshi

    lmao

  • Vos_L

    Wait to make the game LESS of a grind, lmfao. This sounds like ridiculously tedious nonsense just get some mediocre cosmetic rewards.

    • Disqus this

      Thats all it is. Do really old content and achievements you most likely already have. Thats the new event. Do old content and get some cosmetic rewards.

      Hell, at least if BW had put any effort into new content doing a new content grind wouldn’t see quite so bad.

      What were getting is some amazing BW laziness as we move into summer.

  • Sarigar

    I was planning to level a DPS Powertech, so I can do that during the event, but I don’t really feel the urge to do another Republic toon. I may, I don’t know. This just seems like such a wasted opportunity to do something NEW ingame, rather than make us run the same treadmill yet again. A Light and Dark Side artifact hunt across many worlds, encounters with ancient Jedi and Sith spirits, never-before-seen locations on Tython and Korriban… I can think of a hundred different ways to have made this something more people would be enthused about.

    • Andhros

      I could still see them doing a part 2 later. I would only expect a new daily area on Yavin or Odessan and needing a sub to unlock. Although I would only expect this if Season 2 is delayed or season 1 was not profitable enough come August and they need a quick cash grab.

    • AdjeYo

      I can understand having some of these sort of ‘achievments’ counting towards a score, I can totally get behind them. But don’t make me level 8 characters again, that’s incredibly tedious

    • Naq

      This sounds wonderful. How much do you charge for monthly subs?

  • frez1975

    “Do everything you’ve done all over again…eight times!”

    Nope.

  • Purre
    • Unoshi

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA BEST MEME EVER

      i think we all needed this.

      • Purre

        I am very proud of my photoshop skills =)

        • Andhros

          Even better is that you can follow BW example and reuse the image and sell it to a politico during the upcoming US presidential election.

          • Purre

            Turned out even better then lol

    • Disqus this

      Ok now that is just pure greatness.

    • Paulo Gomes

      Epic man…

      • Purre

        Thank you =)

    • europeistani from europeistan

      OMFG lolz.

  • Лев Сафаров

    I hope there will be in game tracker for all this?

  • Livo

    Reading through all of this and i am like ‘Done it, done that and that, oh yeah i done that too.’ Why would i do it all over again….

  • Adamant

    This must be the saddest event in the history of gaming.

  • lore

    So basically, you have to replay the whole game again on a brand new character to participate in this? I am tempted to do it as I still have a class to complete to level through all the classes but it seems a bit of a heavy handed requirement.

    Is the 12x xp going to be active for this?

    Also, the rewards are not even close to matching what they are asking you to do…….

    • Лев Сафаров

      I wonder what inside this boxes, really all this cool sets?

    • AdjeYo

      I really like those new weapon tunings, too bad all we get is a chance to get them, rather than getting one guaranteed if you reach the highest event level

    • Drivan

      You have to replay the game on 8 characters, not just 1…

  • Nyethux

    Can anyone tell me when the next gree, bounty contract and rakghoul events are? Also, does anyone know when this ends?

    • Seph

      Just look at Dulfy’s conquest schedule and correlate to the events.

  • AdjeYo

    New ops?

    • Don Loco

      Don’t hold your breath.

      • AdjeYo

        I know I know, at this point asking for ops is more of a joke than an actual request, not expecting anything anytime soon

    • Seph

      End game now consists of throwing a snowball at someone in December on the fleet in order to get a reward you already paid cash for.

  • Ahsoka

    I’ve noticed that there are plenty more “fuck you Biowares” on this website than on SWTOR.com..

    • Лев Сафаров

      You mean on forums?

      • Disqus this

        It’s because they are banning you on SWTOR forums for 7 days. My brother has been banned already and the post deleted.

        • Ahsoka

          If they can’t handle the anger they should stop wasting our time with bullshit events, do their jobs, and give us the content we’re paying them for 😛

        • Paulo Gomes

          Exactly, was going to say that but you beat me to it lol… They get you banned in swtor.com, believe me there would be A LOT more “fuck you Bioware” posts on there if they didn’t…

    • Drivan

      Only because you can’t say fuck you BW on their forums, they want you to be more subtle with your hatred.

  • Seph

    I’m renaming this event “Lontime Players Scrap their Main and Roll a New One to get cheevos and a Chance Cube that Unlocks Armor Sets They Already Have Unlocked with Absolutely No New Event Content” event.

    Nice one Bioware assholes.

    • Paulo Gomes

      I’m renaming this event: “The Day BW Idiots Finally Made Me Go To ESO”…

      • Liron Ben-David

        ESO is superb and Dark Brotherhood DLC was just released this month.

        • Paulo Gomes

          So I’ve heard mate, so I’ve heard… You know, there comes a time when you just have to realise something is just not worth it, and there are better options out there… Shame really, I really wanted to play a great Star Wars MMO… Sadly no such thing exists atm…

  • lord potato

    Yeah everything up to the 6th tier is doable and somewhat reasonable but really we have to replay the whole game not once not twice but WHOLE EIGHT times again to complete the event. And on top of that they expect us to make 8 new charters but yet didn’t matter giving out free slots…

    Which reminds me anyone else seen BioWare’s new music video?

  • Paulo Gomes

    Oh and in case anyone is thinking the people here at Dulfy are pricks, here’s the link to the discussion on swtor. com… They are going APESHIT…

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=886292

    • Лев Сафаров

      Im not sure i understand, i read few last comments, there is some words but nothing criminal. )

      • Paulo Gomes

        That’s because they ban you if you use too strong a word…

        • Лев Сафаров

          Well, i dont use them, but not sure about others.

  • michael fearless

    This sounds like an event I’ll be doing for the short-term rewards, if anything. I really just don’t care at all about the final rewards a bit.

  • ZapTheSheep

    I would have three questions for Musco after hearing about this and reading about all this nonsense that they want us to do again: (1) Are you serious? (2) No, really, are you f-ing serious? (3) Were you, and everyone employed by Bioware, dropped on your f-ing heads as children because you can’t possibly be serious about this load of crap.

  • Zak

    So, basically we just need to play through the game and be either full light or dark?

    • Disqus this

      In a sense yea but the scope of it for people what have been in the game is a bit over the top. It’s redo all 8 classes. Redo all the crafting professions (time and cost there is just WTF added to the classes), 2 of those classes have to reach level 65 and do damn near all the story (only skipping makeb). Then run all FP’s as tacticals and Hm (blood hunt and lost island – UGH in the GF)

      You’re basically told to forget all the time you put into getting that stuff already. Forget the past 5 years and do a bulk of it again because why the hell not. BW didn’t give you anything else to do.

  • Darth Equinox

    Light or Dark
    If one can keep it at 0 do one get both Darth and Master or random?

    • Deshik

      What we get will depend on global count of all the players worldwide. So something like this will never happen but it would be cool ownage of bioware 😀

  • Madison Jackman

    Are you kidding me? I can’t afford eight new slots, sale or not! And the HM FPs! Some of them are literally broken! Impossible to finish! This is not going to be a fun event, this is going to be torture.

    • CraigMitchell

      1 will do. Just create a character, level, delete.

      • Dractonis

        Yes, spend hours levelling a toon and then delete it as soon as you are done. Amazing event and great suggestion put forth by Eric Musco. The idea of levelling 8 toons should be to play them, not waste your life grinding away only to delete them as soon as they ding 50. Am I the only one that thinks that idea is dumb? This event just doesn’t work for players that have already done it.

        • Paulo Gomes

          ^^This right here. When a dev team states that their game is going to revolve around “Epic Storytelling” and THEN basically makes players grind the game for objectives… I mean, am I the only one who thinks these people don’t know shit from Shinola???

          • Novak/Dractonis

            It’s one thing grinding it lol, but then for Eric Musco himself to suggest to a player “once you hit 50 you can delete it”. He may as well add the uninstall button to the sentence as well. What MMO tells you to delete characters you invested time into levelling and playing, it’s so backwards.

            I might go downstairs and spend hours baking a load of cakes, once they’re done I’ll take a picture and upload it to instagram with a title about how much of an amazing cook I am. I won’t eat them though I’ll just bin them. Totally worth the time & effort to not even use the end product.

            First thing I thought when someone mentioned this event to me was this:

            “Oh it’s a character slot cartel event.”

            • Paulo Gomes

              Exactly! I for one can assure you I NEVER deleted a toon beyond lv 10. And maybe because I didn’t like the look or the name wasn’t “catchy” enough for me after a short playthrough on the 1st planet. This is ludicrous. I’m not a Role Player gamer, but I do get attached to my characters. To reach lv 50 and delete a toon is unthinkable for me.

              The ONLY conclusion we can draw from this is that they don’t RESPECT their own game! I am AMAZED at these people! wtfh…

  • BobbyOrr

    I was already convinced that EAware is focusing on gaining new players over keeping current players and I left a while ago. This is just funny though:) I’m so sorry for anyone still playing.

  • Lol

    This looks like a great event… for 2012.

    • John Kosto

      I was going to comment the exact same thing. I do try to complete some basic storylines on every new character I make (Chapters 1-3, Ilum, Oricon, SoR, Ziost, KOTFE – NOT freaking Makeb) but I am almost done… not gonna do those things anytime soon. And most definitely, not gonna do 8 more characters

  • Dick Grayson

    Hey if anyone could answer these questions, I’d love them forever. Will we need to level multiple characters in order to complete all the flashpoints, since some are faction restricted? And will we need to level 8 different characters for the legacy challenge?

    • Whitedragon

      Do everything on all characters by Nov..

      • Dick Grayson

        Fuck my life… Who thought this would be a good idea? 8 TIMES, I’ve done this already, plus some, I don’t wanna grind 8 more times…

        • Ponku

          Then don’t. Just go for eternal rewards. That’s the main aim of the event i think, with the companions and light/dark stuff. 8 classes 1-50 is for completionists who want to have everything.

          • Seamus

            I thought about that, but that’s just bad design then if it’s apart of an event but not worth it to do

    • Leah

      level 8 characters to 50 – one per class? yes. completing flashpoints? once per event. but… since you need to have both imp and pub level 65 anyways for prior reward – you theoretically would have the needed character. in practice though, even if its not as bad as running each flashpoint 8 times, its STILL ridiculous grind.

  • Cameryn

    So basically, the Light vs Dark Event is as follows: Create and level and get up to the maximum possible achievement on eight different characters.

    Seriously?

    That’s great for a game just starting out. But… my god, did they actually think this was going to be interesting to people? New people just starting aren’t going to go through all that rigamarole for “titles”. Long-time subscribers aren’t going to bother with eight new characters just because.

    Worst thing I’ve ever seen them do.

    • Лев Сафаров

      On what players then its aimed?

      • Ponku

        It’s aimed for players to achieve the “eternal level” of rewards, that requires two level65 done and rewards the new companion. The “legendary level” is for completionists and people who are spending huge amount of time in the game anyway.
        So that said, it is aimed for new players and pointing them and encouraging to experience different aspects of the game. It is aimed for casual players that have only few characters, to create another alts to fill the stories they havent played.
        It is aimed for veteran players who will do it for the new companions, mounts, pets and the like. Completionists that already invested so much time, will do it anyway, and for them powerleveling 1-50 is not that hard, so they will aim at “legendary level”

        A bunch of people is complaining about it, but people are always complaining about games and some aspects of them, especially if they feel they are not rewarded enough. But despite that i predict that this event will still be a success enough for swtor.

        • Cameryn

          People are complaining because IT’S BIOWARE TELLING LONG TIME PLAYERS TO START OVER. What part of this doesn’t register with you?

        • Michael

          Ehh. I can agree that there usually is a bunch of people complaining. But. This blew up over the day an already had 436 comments. Ive made it thus far an you are the third semi positive comment. There has been a resounding number of f you’s to bioware. I’d say this time the white knights are very out numbered.

  • DerpDude

    ….wow…just wow….the entire event is just wrapped around grinding the game and baiting people to the CC shop or subbing.
    F**k this, glad I unsubbed.

  • P

    Why are people saying that eight new characters need to be created? I’m not seeing anything that suggests that.

    • Whitedragon

      Reach Level 50 with all 8 classes

      • P

        Thank you for the replies, I was hoping it was a mistake. No one is going to do that, new player or old.

        • Seph

          I see no reason a new player wouldn’t do it. But I’m sure as hell not doing all of this again.

    • BobbyOrr

      “Alliance Hero

      To complete the objective “The Story Continues”, you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and gain enough experience to gain Character level 50 with all eight Classes. In order to reach level 50, you simply need to play almost any part of Star Wars: The Old Republic. This includes Missions, Warzones, Flashpoints, and more! To track your progress, simply look at your character’s current level, listed next to your portrait.
      You must have one level 50 of each of the following eight Classes:

      Jedi Knight
      Jedi Consular
      Smuggler
      Trooper
      Sith Warrior
      Sith Inquisitor
      Imperial Agent
      Bounty Hunter
      Once all eight Classes among your Characters have reached level 50, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Alliance Hero” to note that you have completed this objective.”

      • Whitedragon

        COMPLETE THESE CHALLENGES TO UNLOCK YOUR REWARDS:

        Reach Level 50 with all 8 classes
        Earn 1M Credits on a Character
        Reach Dark 5 Alignment
        Reach Light 5 Alignment
        Kill 5 Specific World Bosses
        Kill 5 Specific Operations Bosses
        Complete all Hard Mode Flashpoints
        Complete the Eternal Championship
        ….and more!

        • Andhros

          I gotta say BW makes one hell of an infomercial. Someone should probably explain that the “…and more!” isn’t supposed to be attached to the cost but the reward.

    • Ponku

      Because many people are thinking only of the highest level of rewards, that requires, among other things, new characters for all the stories (leveled through 1-50).
      8 don’t “need” to be created. Clearly the main goal of this event is for players to strive for “eternal level” of rewards (with this new light/dark side thing and a new companion) that requires only two characters. * ones is for the completionists.
      The thing that so many people here who are complaining are still thinking only like a completionists, make me thing that they are still going to playthrough it just to get that fw new rewards for them, despite their complaints.

  • Dick Grayson

    I wish they’d add an in game checklist too at the very least… This is already awful, but if they’re gonna force us through this, have something shows you what you’ve completed on each character

    • Лев Сафаров

      Maybe there will be section to this event in achievements.

      • Andhros

        Having just reread the thing I think that there will be a checklist. I think that each of the tiers will have information within them.
        For example it looks like Legacy tier will include the sub topics of The Story Continues and Flashpoint Responder.

    • Sadriel_Fett

      Since it’s supposed to be Legacy achievements, I’m thinking they’ll probably end up tucking the checklist somewhere in the Legacy window under the Events section. You check the box in there and it’ll show up on the right of the screen under your list of missions. Since there’s so many achievements I keep track of that way, I ended up reducing the font size and height of the list window, so I can usually have about 8 or 9 things showing up on the side there but still not be a distraction.

  • Lana’s Gun

    =[ how long is the event on for it will take ages to get trough all this crap

    • Dick Grayson

      I think until November

      • Lana’s Gun

        that’s not as bad then…

        • Dick Grayson

          Still super tedious and a slap in the face to older players XD

          • Lana’s Gun

            well yeah…

  • Kirito

    Even though I won’t re-sub, the Titan Turret Tank mount looks pretty sweet

  • Paulo Gomes

    This is not even an “Event”. It’s a play or replay bonus, at best. NOTHING NEW, I repeat, NOTHING NEW is going on here! Move along people, nothing to see here!

    Legendary players will cringe at this. I have no char slots, what am I supposed to do to achieve this crap (as if)? Delete a character? Play on another server where I have no guilds or friends? Shelve some more money on Character Slots?

    New players will have to rush through content to achieve this! No more enjoying the story for you guys, just rush through everything in time to get the rewards. Where’s the immersion in that??? BW, you don’t even love your own game! What about Epic storytelling? Out the window for the Summer I see…

    Enough has been said already… I just ask for someone, if at all possible, to try and get who was the IMBECILE who thought people were going to enjoy this. The RETARDED BW employee (s) that thought of this. Please, someone must be accountable for this…

    • Лев Сафаров

      Maybe someone in ea create this idea.

      • Paulo Gomes

        Not anymore, ever. I’m not going down that route again. The “BW is good – EA is bad” thing. They’re ALL responsible, screw them all.

        • Лев Сафаров

          Im not saying they good, i mean once bioware were nice company, they created mass effect 123. But there many people quit, so now its only old name.

      • Andhros

        No this idea is quite old now. It’s called a “Replay Event” and has apparently been done by several MMOs (This is second hand information as I only play STO and this in the MMO genre). Basically it encourages replay by giving veterans and novices new rewards. Usually the events would not be this encompassing. I guess it would be more common for the base game, then each expansion seperately.

  • Whitedragon

    I can’t wait to see Musco’s live twitch stream .. watch him squirm trying to make this look like the most incredible thing ever.

    • Michael

      When is that. Ill have to make a new twitch account cause bioware is anti squelching. Except when you ask for new ops. Then they squelch you

  • Elliabella

    seems wayyyy too involved.

  • Thomas Ramskov Lindstrøm

    Well I have been playing this game since release, I have no room for a new character let alone 8, I have legendary status, and now I Have to start all over on all 8 classes?, you know what, F*ck, you, Bioware, I have been a loyal sub for the longest time, and now I have to make more classes where I already have 2 of each, some even 3 now I have to make a 3 of more or a 4th of others, not only is the event only for new people, or people that don’t have legendary status, this is a slap in the face of all the people that has already done this crap, I have rarely complained about Swtor, and I have endured through it, but this is simply unacceptable, I really don’t mind that you have to do this stuff, but at least let people that have already done this crap so many times, that they already have it completed or something, I will never make 8 new characters, let alone 1, this will be an event I skip, and say f*ck the new comp to, not worth it, I even considered unsubbing now, I don’t really care if people think I am childish because of that.

  • Shane

    I guess I’ll do the tiers up to the companion but no way will I make more than 2 characters for this event.

  • Peter Smith

    i would like to know, if a character created now, that is still lvl 1, will count as an event character, og if it has to be created after the event starts.

    • Thomas Ramskov Lindstrøm

      It would not, has to be character created after the 28th, all characters created before that date, is ineligible. to take part of this event, thats the reason so many vets like myself are pissed off.

  • Becky

    So this is an event… that forces you to replay old content. This really is a punch in the gut to me, since I already have multiples of each class, and have done the story on all of them. I have done all the flashpoints, I’m at 94% on operations achievements (read: I’m missing a couple 16m nightmares, that’s it). I have seen what every choice does to the story. I have played enough PvP to get lots of PvP achievements. There is no area of this game I have overlooked. Now they’re saying I have to do it again for event achievements? What the fuck is this?

    • Thomas Ramskov Lindstrøm

      Yep hence so many veterans are raging, a lot of people are pissed off by this decision to make it new characters only, I can understand the dark vs light decisions, because that would be extremely hard to track now, but people that have already done all this shite should have it completed in my very own unbiased opinion. xD

  • benjamin

    what armor is master ranos wearing?

  • Dave Vincent’s Perm

    Well, adding all my guildies on steam is gonna take a while. I just hope that when the game is in fire that someone finds a way to play it singleplayer.

  • Gianluca Ceruti

    Living Legend Achievment wasted to WC, a GJ to EA/BW

  • jaydog

    I thought I would be mad….but I am not.

    Is it a grind? Heck yes. But they “go to” idea is meant to be the companions….which any one both old & new can earn easily. You only need 2 toons for that one….so if you don’t have any slots, you can buy two new slots…or just delete 2 characters that you do not use at all.

    Even better, it does not look like you have to do them in any order. (though granted the first one you will probably get first ha.)

    That last tier? Def for people who play this game constantly. Which is okay. There are people who actually LIKE going through all of that.

    The point is, all the “good” awards can be obtained by casual players. Which is fine to me.

    All about worth. Personally I’ve been looking for a reason to roll lightside sith again, and to finally roll a Jedi that is all lightside.

    Plus that Chiss Jedi is bad ass.

    My only real question is will we have to do a recruitment mission at the end of the event for the comps (not that i mind)

    But that’s my two cents.

    • Paulo Gomes

      Yes, the Chiss Jedi looks good. But beware: if Dark Side wins overall in your FACTION, you will ONLY get the Dark Side Comp… Nice BW work, hey??? 😉

      • jaydog

        Oh i understand that it’s a 50/50 chance that i get the comp that i think looks cooler than the other. But i think having a Darth as a companion is just as awesome. (otherwise i would not even bother).

        Overall i don’t mind the event. just curious how long its going to last.

        Btw, last I checked, they are calculating the dark/light choices made through the entire game, not faction specific. Which makes sense considering that the achievements are bound to Legacy.

        All i have to do is hope that the lightside choices are the same as the last 6 months (59 percent, game wide)

        • Paulo Gomes

          I was saying that just because I’ve seen some people under the impression that the comp is dependant on the choices they make INDIVIDUALLY, not globally. But if you’re ok either way it’s fine then… 🙂

  • Dawg2006

    Can’t say I’m surprised… Bioware / EA has a thing of over hyping things, and when they actually release it, it’s nothing great… I honestly don’t know how anyone can stay subbed after hearing this. I mean if you don’t like it stop paying them. I quit the game months ago and it’s been the best decision I ever made, but if I hadn’t quit this would have made me unsub for sure.

    All KotFE has been is rehash except for the single player story, Which imo is the worst story so far in swtor. I mean to make a successful mmo you can’t just focus on one aspect of the game. Not everyone likes story just like others don’t like raids or PVP. Everyone has their own thing they like about an mmo, and if you abandon other aspects of your game it’s not a good thing. Imo KotFE is where Bioware really screwed up, and if they don’t see the error of their ways I don’t expect swtor to be around much longer.

    • Érik kartman

      ive try Black desert Online and for i buy 2 play no sub game its great i love the dept of the system try it with a 7 dayrs free trial maybe you ill love it

      • Dawg2006

        I’ve heard that game is way to grindy. I’ve been playing wow for the last 2 and half months and I’ve been enjoying that.

        • BCM

          Black Desert is grindy because there is no lvl hard cap, so some people want to push themselves way higher than everyone else. If you go to the soft caps(where probably the majority are) its not that bad. It also has the best combat system of an mmo to date. It’s different than the traditional mmo system and might take a bit to get used to but better. The game also has alot of things for people that like to focus on other stuff, like capturing horses(mounts) and breeding them, etc. Where Black Desert fails is the lack of PVE content like raids. There are world bosses that need alot of work but thats about it. They are just now implementing the pvp part of the game, Guild vs Guild siege wars. We’ll see how that goes.

          I tried to get back into WoW a few months ago but they dumbed down the game way too much for my liking. Seems like they wanted to make it playable for 8 yr olds or something.

    • Лев Сафаров

      Seems they dont like to acknowledge their errors, for example mass effect 3 ending still great as they think. (Personally me think its not that bad, but could be much better.)

  • Александр Востриков

    Hi all. Let’s imagine that I wanted to get the legendary level. Packs I get only one character, which I’ll get the legendary level. Will I be able to make the legendary level of the other characters and get these packs to another character if the achievements I’ve already got?

  • RandomRedshirt

    This is utterly ridiculous. Bioware’s message to it’s Veterans is: “Game Over. Now, start over!”

    What kind of nonsense is this? STO last year had the Delta Recruit event. Yes, you had to make a Delta Recruit to participate…but in addition to the rewards for your new Delta Recruit, you got a bunch of really nice rewards for your established characters. It makes an event like that much more enticing to someone that has been around the block and back again 42 times.

    I just don’t get this company’s disdain for their long-time customers. I really don’t. I have spent more on this game in 4 years, starting with my Collector’s Edition of the game, than I can even tally. Subscription fees, Cartel Coins, Character Renames / Legacy Renames / Character Slots / Character Transfers…all the while, sticking with this as a loyal customer through thick and thin. And they insult me by giving all this cool new stuff to people that haven’t been around through ghost town servers, server merges, bugs and everything else? Heck, they won’t even hand out character slots? Even cheapa$$ Cryptic gave a character slot for the Delta Recruit event!

    But this….EIGHT NEW CHARACTERS? Bioware clearly has a crack problem, and they need to get themselves into rehab like yesterday. Lay off the pipe fellas, it’s frying your brains.

    I will not participate in this event. STO has a new event this year, which I will be doing instead, and I will play my existing characters when I feel like it, just as I’ve been doing. But I won’t jump through their metrics hoops and I won’t pad their data for them. If this is what their big plan is, constant rehashing of the existing content over and over and over and over again….I’ll call it quits. No need to stick around, much less keep paying, for the same old stuff.

    • Paulo Gomes

      For some reason I cannot fathom they don’t want us around. I get it, got the message and will oblige. Really sad, but this will be the FIRST TIME I will not participate in an “event” (if you want to call it that…) since the game’s inception…

      • Trumpcat

        Truth it is, long as you’re paying, nobody cares about our rants on a fan site. (kudos to Dulfy for great efforts as always, not Dulfy’s fault for poor game development). The only means to send a signal (and save yourself the annoyance) is acting with your wallet.

        • Paulo Gomes

          Correct. But I’ve done that, cancelled my sub last December.

  • ROCKING RED REAPER

    I’ve thought of something! Concerning the comps what if you take a COMPLETELY neutral light & dark side points by maxing out both points? I mean do they give you both comps or do they let you choose? Since neutrality is a thing they should have some middle ground or did biofail not take that into consideration?

    • RandomRedshirt

      My understanding is the DS vs LS tally determines what companion you get, not your own personal alignment.

      So if your faction, on your server, scores Light….you get the Light companion, even though you might have been totally Dark.

      I could be wrong, but that was my understanding of it.

    • John Kosto

      The achievement is gained when you reach Dark V or Light V. So if you can make a character go aaaaaall the way to Dark V, then do enough missions to go to Light V…. well good luck, that seems like a lot of work for two vanilla companions.

  • Sebastian Susanoo

    We have almost ZERO force sensitive male companions (2). More light-saber females (6 already) . . . great. All guys seem to be secret agents or ex generals with a hon solo vibe, blasters and whit, while the females get the force sensitive dangerous beauty construct. Really boring templates overused. They killed the only force male (marr) they need some diversity already. I really expected the darkside light side companion to be male.

    • Novak

      Xalek, Darth Marr, Choza Rabbat, Vector, Scourge…

      There are a lot of female companions to please the guys that have no sex lives IRL.

      • Seph

        Guss Tuno!!!!! 😛

        • Novak

          I purposefully omitted him because I detest him lol

      • Darth-Robin

        vector is not a force user…… and scourge doesnt count as he is not romanceable for female players.

  • Érik kartman

    Biofail are a bunch of f****** vampires

  • SuicideSwtor

    Please let this be the end. The 3 dev monkeys working on this game seem like they are actually trying to sabotage their own shambles of an MMO.

    On a lighter note, this would make the best April 1st joke ever…

  • onetruth

    Hey BioWare, if you want to make people redo what they’ve spent the last 5 years doing, at least make a timelock server like EQ with staggered expansions and old rule changes or whatever.

    This, well, this is just creatively bankrupt, and it’s ammunition for all of the armchair developers who think they could do better. Because frankly anyone could.

    • AbnerDoon

      I thought about that earlier when I was reading through the forums. Why didn’t they take one of the dead servers and rename it for the event? I mean legacy has more then a few bugs what is all this doubling up of achievements you already have going to introduce?

  • John Kosto

    I actually think that the first 5 levels of rewards are ok. It’s basically making a character and completing most of the game with just one character. The Legendary Victor requirements are ridiculous. It would even be ridiculous if it was without the “Level all 8 classes to 50” requirement, but that’s just a bad joke.

    No new content for the event, no imagination, rewards which I bet will prove crappy (I wouldn’t be surprised if these “best-of” packs end up having “Amazing Super Special Grand Chance Cubes” in them), and there is literally no incentive to do all of this.

    • Disqus this

      Actually to get that high you have to do it twice. Once on each side and to 65 as well. Not 50. It sucks still.

  • TMNJ

    Female Force-user companions again? Let’s compare amounts of male force-using companions and female:
    Male – Xalek, Darth Marr, Choza Rabbat, Guss Tuno (Alliance version)
    Female – Kira, Nadia, Ashara, Jaesa, Lana, Senya, Veeroa Denz, Temple (sort of, she doesn’t use any lightsabers)
    Could use some diversity here

    • Novak

      I would say that Vector is force sensitive at least and he does use willpower. How could you forget Scourge?!

      And yes, they have basically a female, slim, human or human-looking female companion for almost every companion for obvious guy-pleasing reasons which is pretty sad.

    • AbnerDoon

      I have read more then one person mention this. That it would have been nice to have a male force user romance option finally.

      I mean males characters do get their choice of the first four females listed as romance options above.

  • Seph

    You all realize of course that this is just a way to occupy us until November rehashing old content due to lack of new content. They have nothing planned outside of the companion missions they call KotFE.

    • Paulo Gomes

      Objective completed by BW then! I’ll be occupying meself with ESO much sooner than anticipated…

      • Drivan

        I have been working on ESO pretty regularly since Feb. I was half and half ESO/SWTOR until May, now I’m mostly in ESO. I believe that I will be ESOing it up MUCH more often now… Poor SWTOR, so much potential, such shitty Dev’s…

        • Paulo Gomes

          I was waiting for this expansion to complete, make a sub to get all Chapters, see what their plans were in the slim hope some new content would be added… So mid August, early September I was going to buy ESO… Now I have doubts if I’m even going to get all Chapters from KotFE… I’m really gutted by this…

    • FacelessOne

      Yeah?

      • Seph

        I have to be honest with you. That picture is freaking me out.

        • Paulo Gomes

          It reminds me of Nicolas Cage…

          • Rompe Himself

            Not sure if you’re being sarcastic but it IS based on him:

            • Darth-Robin

              its sarcasm man:P and funny sarcasm at that

  • Novak

    Let me just check my calendar I’m sure we were in June… nope, not April 1st. Musco you big troll.

  • Фролов Денис

    So, it’s essentially “play the game again from scratch” event. Nope, thanks.

  • Matt Man

    what a giant bag of shit

    • Whitedragon

      that’s my new character name giantbag’oshit

      • Лев Сафаров

        Strange someone not reported you yet, i would if i were close to your character in game. No fence. )

        • Paulo Gomes

          Oh you should see the shitstorm once on The Red Eclipse… Someone named his character Hitler… THAT was a fun night…

          • Лев Сафаров

            Im on red eclipse, sometimes i see strange names, i try to not think about it. If i join group with someone like this i report name. Sure people have rights to call char as they want, but i have rights too to have normal game experience.

      • Michael

        I thought that was your god given name?
        J/k. You an shawn Hargrave are my favorites

        • Whitedragon

          give this

          • Michael

            Thats my full name

            • Whitedragon

              LOL!

  • Darth Decimus

    What were you smoking when you came up the idea to create 8 new characters and complete them up to Kotfe!?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clpgo_uUoAER-5Q.jpg

    • TMNJ

      That’s the only objective I really don’t like. I could sort of find some place for them (through reach 50 – delete) but i won’t have enough time and patience to lvl them. That’s total bullshit.

      • Disqus this

        Your not the least bit pissed you also have to re-level all 5 crafting professions. You got any idea just how much that would suck. How expensive that would be? And can you imagine if you didn’t level in the story but did FP or PVP and only had one or two companions. The whole LS/DS thing is a cluster “F”.

        • TMNJ

          Damn, u right i didn’t notice u need them all, i thought only one. Goddamnit, BW

          • Disqus this

            and thats in conjunction with leveling every class to 50 and at least 2 of those to 65 who also have to do Sor and all of KotFE – AGAIN….

  • Mer Vila

    I ´m starting to hope they posted this crap in hopes players would be pissed off, and then BW/EA would come up with “It will be retroactive because we love our costumers and hear their fucks all over” strategy.

    The more I read about it, the less sense it makes!

    • Лев Сафаров

      Can be possible, but i think effect would be stronger if they said this from beginning, so not likely. Again, this my opinion.

  • Fixthegifts

    Dam I love this game but this is one massive slap in the face – why would I bother making a new character especially when all the best looking armour was mostly in 1.0-2.0. No point in this event sorry.

    Also I would say fix the courting gifts but… nah whatever this recycled content is insulting

    • Jonathan Parker

      Oh my god, thank you. I thought I was the only one who has a stock of those damn gifts in their storage. Elara’s my wife, damn it, why doesn’t she love me anymore?!

      Also, yeah, no way I’m creating eight more characters, even if some of these rewards look fucking awesome.

  • Arinstorm

    i already have 20 characters… why should i make 8 more?

  • nerd hater

    Good work biofuckup, you manage to piss alot of your subs. This is just another way to to get people. Are they going to give free tokens? I bet we have to pay for the token. Fuck you Bioware you cheap not creative idiots .

  • Dread Master Ozariah

    I guess i am one of the very few, who actually gonna like this event.

    • nerd hater

      Yeah, maybe you have no life or girlfriend. Good luck

      • Dread Master Ozariah

        That was rude, you know. I have life and doing all of those objectives, except for Legendary, won’t take much of a time, even for a man, who plays just 2 hours per day.

        • nerd hater

          Dont cry

          • soulrage

            Dont be a moron.

          • Dread Master Ozariah

            I don’t cry at morons like you buddy. It must be something, live in the world, where no one needs you and you trying to blame other people, for the how shitty your life is. It’s alright, buddy, we understand.

            • Érik kartman

              pretty sure you are a noob who started playing 2 weeks ago or a EA shill

              • Dread Master Ozariah

                Playing since 2013.

            • nerd hater

              Wow that is a reflection of your life. You a sad sad man.

              • Dread Master Ozariah

                It was actually a reflection of people like you, who can’t play games with having life and girlfriends. Like soul said, you are slaves of endless stupid illogical cliche. And probably a troll.

              • nerd hater

                Well i can it is not, i am laughing at you.

              • Dread Master Ozariah

                You are laughing at me for no reason.

              • herd hater

                Cause you are a joke. I will be bigger person and walk away. Good luck

              • Dread Master Ozariah

                Well, your every comment state you as a moron, so no, sorry to break your dream world, but you are a lower person. And just to end this dialog.

              • herd hater

                Well look at the bigger picture, only moron i see you, Bioware gives you shit, and you eat it up like a dipshit and you enjoy it. Good luck waiting long times queues for fp.

              • Dread Master Ozariah

                So in another words, you call people shit, only because they like what you don’t. You once again approved that you are a truly are a moron. It is no secret, BW could make a bigger job and this event is kinda lame. At least, not what i expected, but i like the rewards and to get all tiers, except for Legendary one, won’t take much of my time. So.. like.. why not? Game itself not so bad and i don’t have ANY in-game issues.

              • HERDHATERGIVEGOODBJ

                SHUT THE FUCK YOU DUMBSHIT, I KNOW YOU IN RL BUDDY, ONE OF YOUR BUDDIES SAID AFTER WATCHING SO MANY EPISODES OF GAME OF THRONES AND SEEING A FEW CHARACTERS SAY THEY GOT BIG C0CK, YOU WENT AND GOT A C0CK ENLARGEMENT!!!! HOLY SHIT HOW MUCH DID IT COST YOU?!?!!?!!

                SO HOW BIG YOUR WEINER?!?! MINES 24 INCHS BLACK POWAAA!!!

      • soulrage

        Why dont you just drop the rest of the cliches as well? Just tell him he lives in his moms basement, and all that? No point at stopping with no life, and no girlfriend right? Yes legendary is going to be a pain for most of us. I will most likely not hit legendary. But the rest is very doable. Once you have the new armor set, assuming it stacks with the rest of the xp boosts, making 50 can be done inside a day or two if you take your time. But I guess to do that you cant have a life.

    • Fixthegifts

      I’m please at least someone likes it – I still feel this game has a lot to offer and hope it doesnt collapse from this ‘recycled’ content

      • Dread Master Ozariah

        Honestly thou, the one thing i truly concerned about – do we get new companions ONLY on our characters, who walked through event or we get them on ALL of our characters, in the end of the event. I kinda missed this point.

        • Nick Emory

          Companions will be legacy wide. One character completes the required objectives all toons in that legacy will be able to get teh companion.

          • Dread Master Ozariah

            Ah, thank you for making it clear for me.

    • TMNJ

      I’m kinda interested in rewards so i’ll do it (except legendary one, screw that)

    • Paulo Gomes

      It’s ok mate, it’s a free world. If you are gonna like this, more power to you. I mean that, no irony. If it was 2012 I was probably going to enjoy this as well…

  • thiago

    Is not an event. Its just rewards for doing all over again (or for new players). I’ll PASS. tx

  • thiago

    The Dev man who had this idea should be fired quickly. He is trying to sabotage the whole game.

    • Cyanocitta

      Um, no! During a brain storming session its quite common to just have ideas flowing. I, however, would like to know what the idea team leader was thinking that this would be a good idea to purpose to the rest of the development team, and then what the full team was thinking in terms of its implementation.

      Basically, I’m not surprised that made it to the idea stage. How it made it beyond that utterly baffles me.

      • Ben Gimson

        I see what you’re saying.

        Fire the ENTIRE team? :’)

  • Jonathan Parker

    Jesus… fucking… Christ…

    I thought, “Oh, this is going to be fun. I have yet to play as a Knight or Inquisitor, and I can do light and dark side respectively. Awesome!” This is completely different than what I thought. That’s a fucking ton of things to do. That’s a month straight, easily. This event better be going for a long time, because there’s no way I’m devoting 100% of my time to this game for the foreseeable future. We basically have to fully level multiple characters and complete almost every non-operation activity that’s currently in the game. That’s way too much time required, and that’s me saying that, by no means a “casual” gamer. I have the time, at least until I go on vacation for Comic Con in San Diego, but I don’t like the idea of playing through the same activities multiple times. Completing every flashpoint on all difficulties (if the group finder is feeling generous), beating Eternal Championship, even fully leveling a character, that takes a significant amount of time, not to mention the fact that we have to level ALL EIGHT classes despite most of us having fully leveled classes already. Some parts of this should definitely be retroactive, or this is just a simple waste of time. You might as well just ask us to complete every activity in the game on the hardest difficulty on all three disciplines on all sixteen specializations. Unless this event takes place over the course of a year, at the very least six months, there’s no way I’m getting past the three or four tiers.

    • Leo

      Pretty sure it says you have to do the operations as well

      • Jonathan Parker

        Yeah, I went back through that giant last step and noticed that the second time. At least they didn’t actually include every operation on hard mode. It’s just so incredibly stupid to reuse all of the game’s old content to extend subscriptions. It’s just insane.

  • Naq

    This is kind of brilliant from a “We have X active subscriptions” sense. But total shit in the “I am not leveling 8 more friggin toons….” sense.

    • Kaliyaa

      What do you get for leveling 8 toons? I dont see that listed at looks like theres different stuff for doing either/both a republic and/or a emire character – so 1 or 2 toons at most

      • Darth Ji’inx

        For the Legendary Level:

        “Alliance Hero

        To complete the objective “The Story Continues” [sic], you must take a Dark vs. Light event character and gain enough experience to gain Character level 50 with all eight Classes. In order to reach level 50, you simply need to play almost any part of Star Wars: The Old Republic. This includes Missions, Warzones, Flashpoints, and more! To track your progress, simply look at your character’s current level, listed next to your portrait.

        You must have one level 50 of each of the following eight Classes:
        Jedi Knight
        Jedi Consular
        Smuggler
        Trooper
        Sith Warrior
        Sith Inquisitor
        Imperial Agent
        Bounty Hunter
        Once all eight Classes among your Characters have reached level 50, you will receive the Achievement “Dark vs. Light: Alliance Hero” to note that you have completed this objective.”

        • Kaliyaa

          Thanks for your help. I just totally glossed over it multiple times lol
          That really sucks though. : /

          • Darth Ji’inx

            You only need 2 characters to get the companion and a majority of the rewards.

            • Naq

              If I even bother, that will probably be the route I go.

              • Darth Ji’inx

                You’ll get 2 new armors (1 legacy with XP boosts & 1 that’s mailed to each character), 1 new pet for each character, 1 new mount for each character, 5 new legacy titles, and at least 15 of those packs. Not bad.

              • Naq

                Yeah but in ESO I have a Yoshi. That shouldnt be the adamantium counter argument that it is, but there you have it.

              • Darth Ji’inx

                I’m just pointing out that you can get a majority of the rewards without having to do that last tier 🙂
                Even with two characters, you don’t have to do content with both. Both just have to be 65. That means only one run through of SoR and KotFE is required.

  • The Watchmen

    I have 16 characters currently. One of each class on each faction. All are done with all current content through Chapter 15 save for the E-Championship on most. All are Light V save for one, who is Dark III. I’e killed everything that could be killed via Ops, FPs, etc. I’ve done GSF and Warzone until my eyes bled. I even farmed HK-51 parts on 12 of the 16 toons… I done it all, now you are asking me to do it again on two more if I want everything?!

    That is months of new work, and 3 years of pass work for nothing. They are going to have to make some of the achvs retroactive or the Top tiers are only going to be broken by very few people that will troll the rest of us because we dont have 18+ hours a day for the next 6 months to devote to this shit.

    I hate to say this, but I’m going back to WoW and play through Legion, because this shit just hit my line of no return.

  • Universo
  • Owen Henson

    The more I think about this event it seems like they’re doing what every newspaper subscription’s goal is: they don’t give a shit about the letters to the editor, as long as they get a few months of record circulation numbers. After the noob influx wears off the event will be a middle finger to them as well as the vets.

  • Shadowofdeath

    To me this ENTIRE event seems like a pre-6.0 resource drain:
    -Drain all your mats leveling new skills
    -Drain all your time doing stuff you already did years ago
    -Drain all your credits on Big spender decos
    -Drain all your Cartel Coins buying server slots

    Bioware needs to make all these things retroactive. simple

    • Seph

      More like a time drain since there will be barely minimal new content coming. They just keep looking for ways to rehash old stuff and make us think “oh boy, a new mission!!”

      • Shadowofdeath

        True that, this “event” is just BW not hiding it anymore

  • Bounty Hamster

    LOLOLOLOL! Really? You’re serious? Grind more rehashed content?

    Ok I think I am finally begining to understand what’s wrong, I’m playing the wrong game. I was under the impression this was an MMORPG not a hamster wheel.

    Oh well, thanks for the lesson. Guess it’s time to unsub, bye.

  • It’s boring now

    Bioware: “Hey guys we need some more time since we haven’t even started creating the story for Season 2 KOTFE so we made a new “event” to keep you busy.”

    Me: “Fuck You! I’m so happy my sub was canceled 4 Jun.”

  • Rompe Himself

    Well there you have it folks. The utter contempt and laziness BW has for it’s sub base especially for the people who stuck around for years and kept these fuckwits in a job is now on full display and no longer being hidden by them that even Fanboi’s cannot make a valid excuse (though they will no doubt try and be laughed at) for this utter disgrace.

    I said to my wife (who also used to play SWTOR) when we made the sad decision to unsub early this year after the death of group content and shit single story that KOTFE is (among other reasons relating to 4.0) that I hope the way BW recycled the heroics in 4.0 is a one off and not a sign of what they plan to do outside of their piss weak monthly chapter releases. Even I did not imagine BW could be this outright lazy and give it’s long time players this middle finger of epic proportions. If this game is making BW/EA over 100 million in the last quarter like the fanboi’s love to gloat, where the honest to God fuck is all the money going to because it sure as hell is not going back into the game in any way, shape or form. For that much money, this game should be blooming and getting ACTUAL new content, not recycled shit. With that much money coming in, EA could make even more money from this game if they invested said earnings into the game but no, this game is in maintenance mode until even the Cartel whales give up.

    I could go on but many others have wonderfully covered all my other thoughts on this in the posts below already except one: DULFY HERSELF!!

    Dulfy, I would love to hear your thoughts on this event and the direction SWTOR is heading.

  • Ain’t Nobody Got Time For That

    No, just no, I’m not going through all that for a companion that will probably have one conversation when you first recruit them and then be like every other companion.

    I was under the impression they would be keeping track of all the dark/light decisions players were making and after the event, if you log on before a certain date you can claim a companion that the entire player base helped determine its alignment and to a degree its personality.

    But I’m not starting a new character and getting it through all of KOTFE and round five of EC. Ironically I was going to start a new character for the event and go through the first three chapters since those are actually fun to replay and offer some good light/dark decisions.

  • Rompe Himself

    The operative word here RRR is “CHANCE” to get Tulak Hord set. With the time it would take to get the “CHANCE” to get this, you could make enough credits and just outright buy the set off the GTN in a far quicker time.

  • It’s boring now

    Why call it Light vs, Dark event? What does regrinding all the old content from level 1 have to do with Light Side or Dark Side?

    • bee’sniffer

      because if your want light side, you will unsub to enjoy the summer. Going Dark side you will play this event and spend all your free time away from family and friends. lol

    • Darth-Robin

      maybe lightside you endure all the grind and feel good about yourself that you had the willpower to slog through everything
      darkside you burst into flames due to how boring it all was

  • bee’sniffer

    ahhh.. more news to support my decision to unsub 7 months ago and completely uninstall 4 months ago. I didn’t know the game could be run further into the ground. I was wrong *shrug*

  • TREpvp4ever

    Insane grind. And as a former sub with over 20 characters, I’ll have to pass.

  • Darth Ji’inx

    I’ve actually been wanting a Shade Stalker 🙂

  • Bob Joe

    Honestly, Breaktown Brawler is fine. People who have trouble with it don’t understand that you need to KITE the boss, and maintain aggro on him, all in melee range. Phase 5 of Zotar and the Doom Droid’s basic attack come MUCH closer to being unbalanced. Don’t believe me? I’ve done the whole championship multiple times in only Zioat level gear (and PVP relics)!!!! My companion is < level 20 btw (dont remember exact number). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOCV3yVGzNg

    Nerfing would only damage the content at this point, because they stupidly allow you to bring in full 216 gear, use heroic moment on cooldown, possess a brain, and win! It already has failed at its job, because it teaches people that 216 gear is enough to ignore half the mechanics in an ops fight.

    • Dick Grayson

      I don’t really mind the heroic moment use, just because the last boss can require a ton of burst towards the end of it. None of this thing needs to be nerfed, it’s actually quite easy, just requires that you learn each fight, which is something they were hoping for. In some fights I wish they’d buff certain things to be honest

      • Bob Joe

        The burst at the end of the last boss is intentional, and honestly a brilliant move by bioware, if only it worked as intended. Both the focus laser and the last 50% on zotar serve as a dps check for dps players (once you run out of koltos and cooldowns you can’t get another laser), which I can tell you as someone who pugs SM ops daily, the #1 problem in SM pug groups is the lack of an ability to pull decent numbers under stress. Sadly the heroic moment ability, AND the lack of a gear nerf or restriction makes this move in vain.

  • DarthPalidin

    You mean I’ve busted my *ss for years since launch to get anywhere near these requirements only to have to do that same work again in a matter of a few months? Yeah, f*ck this.

    If I was a newer subscriber, this event would be alright; I’d have incentives to level up the other classes I haven’t played, run through the stories and missions I haven’t done, and be rewarded for doing so. But I’m not a newer subscriber, and most of the playerbase does not consist of newer subscribers. Furthermore, I’m willing to bet that many players that would even have the time to participate in this event have already done about 70% of what you’re asking to do–if the comment section of this post is any indication.

    I don’t know how this event even got past a five minute discussion during a Bioware lunch break. That boggles my mind. Why didn’t it occur to anyone then and there that this is the worst thing they have ever done since Rise of the Hutt Cartel?

    I’ve been proud to stand by this game for years. I’ve defended it at its lowest points. I’ve spent so much time becoming attached to the characters, my characters, the worlds, and the stories. But they’ve finally managed to lose me, and it’s because of this atrocity towards the people who love this game. I can honestly say that I’ve lost my respect for the developers.

  • Knight_ldr

    Wow, okay other MMOs events: “do this new thing and get rewards!”

    SWTOR event: play it all over again and get rewards!

    I have all 8 classes stories done, not re-doing any of their stories and certainly not all 8…

    I just ended my sub for good, when the best they can come up is “let’s give them rewards for doing what they have already done” you know the dev team either gave up or is just that incompetent to think it’s a good idea.

    Either way, they don’t deserve my money.

  • Don Loco

    Going to be putting more time into Fallout 4 I guess. Ye gods I hope the devs have a sense of the dreck storm they’ve stirred up. This is pretty much what is going on at swtor lol. Haven’t seen people this bent since the slot machine fiasco!

  • It’s boring now

    Let’s just hope that this is just a late April Fool’s prank and they will let us know tomorrow. Doubtful, but we can hope…

  • Neondragon

    For those who are wondering how Bioware got this utterly awful idea from, well I heard whispers that it was movie night not too long ago in the cardboard box BW Austin calls their Office and Eric “Fucktard” Musco always being late on everything as usual, just discovered a movie everyone was raving about (Remember Eric is slow and behind on everything) called Mad Max: Fury Road!!!

    Some in the BW Austin office had seen it while others gave their best impression of giving a single fuck, having mastered it by using it on the player base and SWTOR itself. But since no one spoke up and little fucktard Eric was oh so full of excitement, they went ahead and watched the movie.

    Now it was here where the details gets a little hazy but in between watching the movie where some dev’s sneaked away to make more money for their EA Overlords by reskinning existing gear in the game for the Cartel Market and calling it new, inspiration hit one of these BW drones when they heard the war boys chant their famous line “I LIVE, I DIE, I LIVE AGAIN!!” throughout the movie.

    This said BW Drone then screamed “EUREKA!!! I JUST GOT AN IDEA FOR A NEW EVENT!! The movie was paused and all eyes turned to this dev who continued their train of thought.

    I LIVE, I DIE, I LIVE AGAIN!! What if we make an event where everyone has to redo everything already in the game for years again to participate. I LIVE!! But they cannot use their current toons or legacy to do it. I DIE!! They have to make all new toons, do the whole game again including events, world bosses, fp’s and ops using ONLY these new toons?? I LIVE AGAIN!!!! And have incentives for doing it being new titles and armors. Excited whispers began among the team for they knew if this idea saw the light, then very few of them would need to do any actual work. In fact it could all be done by Pablo, the office cleaner who just got a crash course on how to reskin armors and speeders after that one night fling he had with one of the drunk CM girls at the KOTFE release party.

    But then doubt began to spread. Would it work? Would the shit eating lemmings they call the player base take to it? “We recycled so many things in the past” one said…… “Why would this be any different??” Another found his courage and said “They expect so much and we have failed them time and again yet they still remain. It can work!!!”

    This was all followed by excitement as they declared the rest of the year a holiday and went home content in how little they actually did the whole year.

    The lights were turned off leaving Eric Fucktard Musco in the dark. Poor little Eric. So afraid of the dark. As he heard all his fellow workers leave for the year, he rocked himself back and forth whispering “Choices Matter, Choices Matter” before coincidentally the DVD player (No Blu-ray for BW Austin were behind on technology as well) unpaused itself with a timely retort about the idea by Immortan Joe who declared:

    • Havik79

      Yeah no, they googled mmorpg news, saw Diablo 3 seasons and ripped it off, but made it worse, as in seasons you can take a toon and make it level 1 instead of needing to make new ones.

      • Neondragon

        Having never played Diablo 3, care to explain how their event worked in relation to the pure facepalm that Bw announced? You got me curious.

        • Divona

          Diablo 3 events last about 3-4 months. Each time you start from scratch. That means create new character and level up + gear. Also get some achievements while doing so in season and few cosmetic items.
          Rince and repeate each season. For those who dont have life can also push into leaderboards. Difference is that SWtOR is MMORPG that SHOULD NOT make events like in Diablo where its basically only thing left to do.

        • Havik79

          Ah sadly no, I too have not played it, just have people I know say that.
          This is how it works, kind of the same thing, its about trying to get old players back into the game, and trying to get people who did not do content to do it, and giving new players a chance to group up and get rewards.
          http://www.diablowiki.net/Seasons
          It is a good idea, but people want to complain, it is the right way to do it, everyone is on level field, if you made it retroactive then personally I would have every reward except the last without doing a thing, so would lots of other players.

  • Cloudz

    Courting gifts still broken, KOTFE content last 1-2 hours at best, no new raids and 99% of all the companions we have get 30 seconds of speaking lines.

    Unless this companion gets its own story like HK did or any of the original companions did this is a giant waste of time. I would have done the events if I could use my characters already leveled and geared, but they want me to start all over again? No way. The rewards are pretty cool, but this is some dumb level of grind they expect us to do. $14.99 says the new companion is just like all the other new ones we’ve gotten in KOTFE.

  • MoöMoö

    So the whole player base chooses the companion??

  • Matchewy

    Is it possible to get both companions if you have your imperial class dark and pub class light?

    • Dick Grayson

      No, you only get one of the companions. If the darkside choices win, then everyone gets the darkside comp, if there are more lightside choices we get the lightside chick, that’s why we get the companions at the end of the event

      • Matchewy

        So it is based on everyone else??

        • AbnerDoon

          So they say but odds are good it will be a coin flip in the office.

          • Matchewy

            Well damn it. Thanks anyways.

            • Dick Grayson

              To be fair, apparently there was a thing done that showed there are more lightside options done or something like that, so we’ll see.

      • Leo

        I really hope light wins just cause I’d much rather have a chiss sentinel than another assassin, and it would be the first chiss companion.

  • Any one can tell me how about character which one have done all of this missions , fps , events etc etc ? they need to repeat it to have rewards ?

    • Leo

      No, only brand new characters that start at level 1 after the even goes live are eligible. But the titles and end of event rewards are legacy wide and the rewards from the packs will unlock to collections so you can pay to get them on existing characters

      • so I need to make new one characters to get this rewards ? ( I mean storylines + FP + WZ etc) because repreating events like plague , bounty weeek etc. Thats sucks so much ;/

        • Paulo Gomes

          Yes it does. You think it does, I think it does, and 480-plus people on this thread alone think it does…

          But somehow, Bioware thought it would be a cool idea…

          Go figure…

        • Leo

          At least 2 actually 1 pub 1 imp, if you want to earn the companion

    • Michael

      It only counts for characters created june 28th or later of this year. So no concerns about characters having to repeat.

  • Kooler

    I spend millions on items for two characters created within the last month, making their outfit designer look how I want, only to find that now I will need to remake them(as they are the two classes I have any inclination to level again)…..

    At least let one of my characters count for this shit already

    • Michael

      No. None of your characters count yet. Enjoy

      • Kooler

        I’m aware. I kind of made that point in my post already

        • Michael

          I miss read what you typed an i stand corrected. Skipped the “let” in your final statement

  • Vitani

    Sooo…do I get this right? We *need* a new legacy to achive this? Like, start on a new server and then spend CC to come back to our original server…?

    • Michael

      You don’t need a new legacy. Just everything you have done up untill june 28th has been pointless as far as this event is concerned. If you have 8 free character slots then you are good to go.

  • Jha

    I agree with all said below and HUGE slap in the face to founders. Don’t worry about the gear, mounts and titles though guys and gals they will be in KotFE season 2-3 cartel packs and eventually on the GTN so start saving hahaha

  • RandomFan

    Got excited last year when more story content was announced. Was a tad shocked to find out they alienated a good chunk of their regulars by not adding more of those grinds they call ops (I don’t like em at all, but power to you if u do). After all grinders are usually (in my exp) the ones that will keep subbing instead of just going F2P. Was also weird they didn’t give PvP’s much hope either (another crowd that loves that endless grind; again if u dig it power to u), but I shrugged and said, “meh, maybe its just time to give us the [people that play for the stories] something new to sink our teeth into, and then next year they’ll flip again and give some of the others some love”.

    Its been almost a year and I see no love coming towards the PvPs or Ops players, which means I’ll probably never ever again see familiar faces in the game? Now they tell me that I need to play a level 1 again after I have 18 characters (14 already maxed out) just to participate in this event? I rather walk barefoot on broken glass while chewing on tinfoil!

    Seems I can defy statistical odds by having unknowingly investing $$$ in some of the worse MMO dev teams so far (my game before this one made its expansion PvP, not to mention its literally impossible to do last map of game solo, and game before that, well it has developed a penchant for unlocking ALL new powers behind gamble boxes and still has launch bugs from almost 7 yrs ago).

    Guess I needed to vent a bit. I will always have fond memories of you SWTOR, but

    • Michael

      Thats weird. I usually refer to grinders as people who have 18 toons an don’t do ops

      • RandomFan

        Agreed. I just wanted to see dark side/light side choices of each class at least once (thats 16), then I got a free lvl 60 character and free trial of chapter 1 (that’s 17), and I really cant remember if #18 was just coz I had a full set of gear none of my other characters had and didn’t want to gtn or mothball it. That’s how much I enjoyed the story parts of the game, but I have already seen them all, I really don’t think I want to have to go thru it all again just to participate in this ‘event’.

  • Nebdar

    Since i am preferred player can’t post on the forum so i hope Eric reads comments here or someone post it on the forum……

    Can Eric state which of those achievements require you to make new legacy on new server( if you already have lvl 50 on eight classes) and which require only to make new character in current/ main Legacy

    But if to obtain all achievement lvls must be done in one and same legacy does basically means in order to get all you MUST create new one (legacy)?

    Titles will unlock only in the current so mostly not the players main legacy ONLY? (You MUST transfer characters to you main sever to have them?)

    Dark vs. Light Packs and Pioneer Armor Set – given to character on New Legacy so i have to pay for character transfer to have those on my Main Legacy?

    Pack bind on force alignment -> does it means character current alignment or current overall choices alignment or we have to wait till the end of the event so the alignment that wins will make those pack dark or light sided?

    Every one who are eligible to pet companion will get the the same alignment rewards depending on which side wins?

    Thanks everyone who reads it

    and thanks to anyone who will give me answers 🙂

  • Paulo Gomes

    Lol… I have to take my hat off to you guys at Bioware: over time you managed to piss off sections of your playerbase… This time though you managed to piss off EVERYBODY! This is great, no pvp versus pve, “casual” versus “raider” stuff… This time we can all agree: this is as LAZY as it gets, you rehashed the WHOLE GAME on a single move…

    Oh but you forgot one thing: how about doing the seeker droids and macrobinoculars missions ALL OVER AGAIN TOO???

    Just stop already. Quit while it still looks good. While your sacred metrics say that more people than ever are playing this sorry excuse for a game. You make me sick. If I was half as bad at my job as you guys are, my ass would be so fired I would have to call the Fire Department to put it off…

    • Michael

      Hats that were not created after june 28th taken of heads not created after june 28th don’t count. You will have to purchase a new hat an create a new head for credit

  • Risqu’e

    A disturbance….as though millions of swtor players were crying out in terror, and then suddenly…silence.

    Seriously, what a load of crap.
    If they really expect veteran players to do this, they should have at least made the rewards ACCOUNT-WIDE and directed us to the lowest populated servers. >>

  • Michael

    Where is the white knight toggle? I want to read what the devs read

    • Paulo Gomes

      If you click that you’ll go from 484 comments to about 5 or 6… Not even the white knights can argue over this one I think…

      • Michael

        I know. Would make the comment reading less tedious.
        I feel like they finally shut up the white knights. You’re right there is still 5-6 still kicking around

        • Shawn Hargrave

          those carebears are to busy grinding away toons otherwise theyd tell us how hurt thier feelings are = (

    • Andhros

      Since yours isn’t working allow me to type down what it says.

      “Players are interested and passionate over this event.”
      Every comment eliciting new information. Also every comment that includes profanity, or how it is discriminatory and a slap in the face.

      “High level of involvement from player base”
      The internet is full of posts on this event(assuming here, I only glance at Dulfy, but other posts indicate that their forums and other fansites have also garnered a large number of posts in a short amount of time.

      “Mostly positive outlook”
      Most of the complaints seem to stem from the ridiculous laundry list to receive “Legendary” while I see several people reacting with interest to the lower level rewards. Therefore a majority of the content is liked while a small portion is vehemently disliked.

      *extrapolation, may or may not appear in BW screens. This is a beta feature still in testing.

      “Goal achieving”
      If the purpose of this event is not to maintain or increase subs I think it will achieve a decent player retention. Reactions with this much passion typically indicate an increased level of attachment to the product and while their may be a decline in the short term most studies indicate that people will check sites for news even if they don’t log in. This increases the likelihood that they will catch a trailer or info on season 2 get interested and probably sub for at least a portion of season 2.

      • Michael

        Oooh. Do you think they will develope more great stories and choices that totally matter?

  • Leo

    @dulfy when it’s availible can you post a full list of all items in the packs please

  • Trumpcat

    If I were to return to the game (been subbed for 4 years since day 1), this event is supposed to stimulate me to delete some of my characters and level them all over again, doing all the things I did, all over the place, because having done it a few times in the past doesn’t count. And that is after all content was already scaled once, while some flashpoints and operations were scaled three times. Meanwhile there is still nothing new other than a few nice cutscenes monthly, which I can see on Youtube.
    Hhrrrrrmmmmmm, nah, maybe another time.
    Rather wait for the huge expansion coming later this summer for the game that shall not be named.

    • Michael

      What game is that?

      • Trumpcat

        Blizzard’s MMO.

        • Razid M.S.

          Lol Legion is gonna flop just all all the previous expansions. It’s a rollercoaster that is only going further and further down the drain.

          • Jose Velez-Martinez

            Now lets be fair if you hate WoW. The ONLY xpac that was a flop was WoD, saying ALL previous xpacs were flops reeks of just pure hate for the game/company and trying to make up something to seem self-important.

            • Razid M.S.

              Well, the game has been hemorrhaging subs for the better half of a decade. I don’t know if you can say it was only WoD that flopped. Every single expansion, since TBC has had less subs when the expansion ended, than when it began. And it’s so low now, that they won’t even talk about it anymore. It’s just a matter of time now.

          • Trumpcat

            “Like all the previous expansions”, really? (Draenor did flop in terms of retaining subscribers, one miss in a decade).
            But let’s not turn into an argument for or against Blizzard’s games. I expressed my great disappointment with the extremely poor development of SWTOR in which I invested so much time, effort and money, so it hurts. And I mentioned that I’ve went back to playing an MMO that I feel is superior in every aspect. I did it along with fifteen others who quit swtor. But I also know people who went to play ESO, STO, EVE or quit MMOs altogether. It won’t be me who defends a game that rescales 4 years old content without adding anything new, no matter if it flies the “Star Wars” and “BioWare” labels in hopes of milking you through the cash shop.

        • Michael

          :(sadface):

  • PsychoTech ARMS

    play the game all over again..each class all over again? lol.. fuck that.

  • Gonna pass, not re-subbing just to replay all the content that i’ve already played through multiple times. If anything, i should just log into the Game and have all rewards for already completing everything on the to-do list.

    Seems like BioWare Austin is trying to squeeze as much money out of the Game to get people back to re-subbing and buying their lottery packs without putting a lot of work into the Game. Honestly, they made so much money from this Game they could easily re-build it with a new Engine for better visuals and improved performance, hell even get it to run on Consoles to increase the player base like every other MMO is currently doing and still be in the green.

    • ConcernedGuest

      Gonna pass, too. No interest in doing all the content again and again and over again. I’ve a 50 hours / week working shift. I’m no student or so. And I’ve family to care for. Soo… no time for this either. Better going on a good holiday trip with wife and kids :).
      And in the and … it’s just a game. Not a full time job.

  • PsychoWedge

    Wuahahahahaha, Bioware, you bunch of old joksters and pranksters, you. Dudes come on, it’s not even April anymore! I mean, I almost bought it. All this shit abou-… (A sheet of paper is handed to Wedge on which is written a short note in shaky handwriting. Profoundly confused and with a rising
    level of perplexity his eyes follow the departing messenger, who is hurrying on to the next player.) Huh? Wot? This is serious? What does that even mean? Hey, come back, I’ve got further questions! Hey…

    Well, well, well, all my characters (one of each class, all 65, all finished the class story, obviously) – some of them created minutes after server start back on Christmas 2011 and since then fighting the good/evil fight for the Republic/the Empire, these toons that carried me through this world, representing my legacy and my time in the game, these toons that virtually embody all the ridiculous marketing gobbledygook and empty phrases and all the un-bear-able fucking marketing bullshit about “this is your journey” and “your decisions matter” and “find your place in the galaxy” and “leave your mark in history” and “play your own meaningful, rich, deep story” and whatever else these shitcunts vomit out of their marketing-cancer ridden faces – all these characters are left out… They can’t participate in any way, shape or form. In the event that will impact the shape of the entire galaxy this fall…

    You know, I really like honesty and I much preferred if Bioware just wrote me a plain, black on white email telling they don’t wanna see my fuckface in their game any longer and that I should go play something else.

    • Don Loco

      Truth

    • Kplz

      Well said. Fuck this game

  • Vakarian

    Nope not doing it Bioware I did the level grind I fail to see how this is suppose to be a event or anything like that.

    Don’t award people who’ve been playing you game for years or anything

  • Djangus Roundstone

    So ESO is looking pretty cool now

    • Paulo Gomes

      It’s looking awesome from where I’m standing! 🙂

      • Whitedragon

        this might be awesome if you had a group that would stick together till the end, doing this solo seems painful :/

  • Martin Marinov

    Soo we have companion grind fest and now we have “let me play again all the content I had already played” fest…. Fu BW.

  • Gah. This is worst than the Diablo III Seasonal Characters… Sheeeeeesh

  • Late to the Party

    Nah, fuck off BW, no money from me this time, time to unsub, gonna play something different while waiting for a good content if it will be created, which means..never? Lol

  • BW is ran by Republicans

    So I’ll give this abortion a try.

    I don’t need to do things on separate characters right? AKA I just need to 1-50 the 8 classes?

    I was gonna have my main lvl 65 just be the final character/s I don’t delete at the end…

    • Patrick Bateman

      You also have to get all crafting skills (Cybertech, Biochem, etc.) to 550. So you need to do that on individual characters. Or if you’re a masochist do it on your event “main” and continually delete the skills.

      This isn’t even an abortion. That’s insulting to abortions. This is more like a stillborn.

  • Inked Tree

    WTF? I can understand BW wants to encourage new players to play the game (even though their ways to achieve such thing are quite strange), but why not to reward all those people, who play for years? I’m really dissapointed.

    • Paulo Gomes

      Not sure I’m with on that one. I play since launch, but I don’t want a reward for that. I just want to NOT BE PENALISED for being a supporter for so long. Also, since I put so much time into this, I’d like to have the characters I ALREADY leveled (24 of them to be precise) to be able to do, you know, SOMETHING… But rolling new ones that I don’t need, getting character slots to increase the number of toons I can play, doing the WHOLE GAME all over again… It boggles the mind, it resembles a chore, it equates WORK, a JOB. And I don’t pay to do a job, I GET PAID when I do a job. They can suck on my lightsaber for what I’m concerned…

      • Andhros

        Agreed. “Legacy” tier would have been a nice touch, or a new daily area from one of the myriad of “once and done” locales to get a special comm to spend on event specific rewards. Or even slightly revamping the rewards from say Yavin and Ziost during the duration of the event.

        • Paulo Gomes

          Look, there’s plenty of ideas that would be cool:

          – Upping rewards on dailies, or even a new daily, God forbid, would be cool. Dailies are mostly empty these days, and rightfully so, since you get more money AND crystals if you group up and do Heroics;

          – A new Casino event, but this time with REAL games! Screw the slot machines! Pazaak, Dejarik… With Tournaments! How cool would that be??? With some nice rewards for the Tournament winner(s). Introducing gamer decks would be oh so cool;

          – Speeder races! On circuits spread across all planets, or some of them. Equally with rewards for the race winners. Like the ship game NO ONE plays, we could get our Cybertechs to produce upgrades for the speeders, and they could even make some money from developing Cartel Market speeders.

          Of course, all this would involve ACTUAL work from the dev team. This is just bits and pieces I thought of out the top of my head. How in the name of the Force do these people not think of this??? Your guess is as good as mine…

      • Inked Tree

        Good point on that. Let’s hope we won’t be overwhelmed by Ewoks.

  • wultwlo0ot

    After doing Tython two more times, I’m pretty sure I’ll hang myself.
    That’s what you want BioWare? Yes?

    • Trumpcat

      Why play(pay) if you don’t enjoy it?

      • Фролов Денис

        That’s why I don’t. After leveling 16 characters, with second 8 already being quite tiresome endevour, i’m definetely not running a sinlge more. And that kinda excludes me from “event”, which was supposed to be something new and fun. For all means and purposes, for people fed up with leveling the event either doesn’t exist or is a huge source of irritation. Hence the hate it gathers, quite well-deserved for such stupid idea

      • Brexit

        Because rewards!?

        Btw. if somebody doesn’t enjoy leveling all 8 classes again doesn’t mean this person doesn’t enjoy the game at all!

  • Meta

    Event event task: do the Gree Event. Do the Rakghoul Event.
    So META!
    🙂

  • DLM3

    Once more we are seeing evidence that they should thank the original dev team for crafting the content of Makeb and Oricon so that even after they have been fired this game still had some decent content (people can whine all they want about Makeb but it still came with one different story line for each faction where the NPCs were still acknowledging your class allowing you to play with a friend, with an op boss, with a new operation, with the macro and seeker droid quest line, etc.).

    Since then the new dev team has been unable to create anything decent. We got SOR that was nothing but a solo RPG completed in 5 hours (watching all the cutscenes) and KOTFE that is nothing but a companion mission every month. How can they proud themselves with rehashing content over and over?!

  • Whitedragon

    I don’t see many people reaching Legendary Level,

    • Divona

      If you make a calendar and write down all activity it will be like real work. Each day doing activites for 4 months. No time for real life then it can be done. But if you miss one event then all effort will be gone. I started to calculate a bit and you have to log in every day at least 8h+ to even have a chance let alone RNG factor things like completing all FP’s and some opses.

  • Bryan

    Wow and I thought they couldn’t flush the game any further. Way to step it up a notch!

  • j’oe

    is this shenanigan bullshit enough to sue them for false advertisement?? they said something new. now i see he meant ‘new character’.

    everyone expected a real event, but no.. this is even worse than something lame that they would do…

  • Kirito

    I can’t tell if they’re lazy or if they genuinely don’t have the resources to come up with anything complete new.

    • Paulo Gomes

      You can’t? Let me lay it out for you: they ARE lazy, and lack the intelectual resources to do anything productive, copying all the bad ideas OTHER MMO’s have come up with in the past…

      • Kirito

        Oh, now I see it. Thanks!

  • Лев Сафаров
    • abaddonsmummy

      O no I have to work for a reward……..sigh

      • Лев Сафаров

        1 thing is to work for reward, another is do work already and saw how you get to do all again.

        • abaddonsmummy

          It’s not compulsory. Why re-run eternal champ on many chars – to get the rewards/achievements, same with Kotfe rewards.
          If you don’t like repetition don’t go for achievements.

          • Disqus this

            and eternal champion at least was new content. It was new to do but yes, even it has it’s limits in replay-ability.

            There is nothing new about this BS event of re-grinding the entire game like it was 2012 again.

      • Seph

        I LOVE rewards you have to work for. HK quest (51) was awesome. Gree equip is cool. Etc. Etc. But who wants to regrind the entire frigg’n game again??? It’s not an event. An event has content. Something. Anything.

  • Disqus this

    LS/DS event is nothing but busy work. That BS crap your teachers used to do so they could hide out in the teachers lounge and have a drink while you did some worthless, rinse repeat work that means nothing.

  • So how long do we have to complete all of this crap?

  • Darth-Robin

    in bioware defense they did do something creative here

    they re-invented the word grind
    you think korean f2p games are grindy? atleast those games give you new quest and such to grind your ass off for some new shiny.
    bioware on the other hand well here here is the whole game go grind that.
    lazy fuckers
    what about prefered players who cant do operations at all did bioware think of them?
    or the 1 million credit requirement again they cant have more then 350k

    if bioware wants everyone to participate then prefered players need to be able to do ops without an ops pass and being allowed atleast 1 million credits.

    • Paulo Gomes

      You don’t even have to go there… One of the requisites is to do the HK-51 quest at least once… As you may very well know, only subscribers have access to Section X. That means you either have bought the unlock to go to Section X, or you won’t be able to do this piece of shit as pref or f2p anyway…

  • Jon Dough

    Guys im really only in this for the revan reborn armor, will this be in the dark packs or light packs anyone know?

    • Guest

      There´s a CHANCE …and we know how low the chances are to get what you want out of Packs

    • bee’sniffer

      your better off grinding dailies for credits. you will likely earn the amount needed to buy off gtn within a few weeks.

      When the pack first came out, I spent a month and about 6million on packs trying to get the cool white color crystal. Then I got wise and just bought 2 off gtn for 2mil each.

  • Cortys

    What the hell is wrong with them? Whoever had the idea for this should be crucified! I spend already so much time and money. And now they offer me few rewards to do that whole shit again? I say it again, what the hell is wrong with you Bioware?

  • Kyacho

    My feelings about this event are like..

  • Seph

    This is not an event. An event has new stuff to do. It’s just a regrind.

  • adsfmovie

    Do they think, use their brain there? I sincerely doubt it… lvl up 8 chars in 4-5 months and grind all those stuff you did before ever again on every char it’s almost impossible to do, guess they have no life at all and that’s the reason why they did this. pffs From Eternal Championship to Eternal Idiotship. Guess it’s time to leave this tortanic and let it sink for good.

    • adsfmovie

      I have another briliant idea for EAware… remove all chars, recreate legacy and get some cool stuff by doing this

  • Swingline2008

    This reminds me of how other games do “seasons”. At least there is some resemblance.
    The old events have been the same for years. At least there is something different to do, albeit with old content.

  • Bugs

    Expierience all the unfixed bugs since 2012 again! Isn’t it fun?

  • Ahtirm

    I know this must have been said somewhere but I can’t find it. When does this event end, as in how much time do we have?

    • Disqus this

      It just says “fall”. Most are guessing October. Give a good 4 month.

      • Ahtirm

        Better than I was expecting. Thanks!

        • John Doe

          Eric Musco on alt account ^

          • Ahtirm

            Nope. Just someone who takes the event at face value. Like someone said, get rewards for doing stuff I would have done anyway.

            If I get most of it, great. If I don’t, I’ll probably stick to Lana anyway, worked too hard to get her to affection 50 not to.

  • 0shark0

    I have 16(?) characters at 60 already, have done the story content for them all including the expansions (up to KotFE that I’ve only done on a few toons). Really have NO desire to level another character. My guess is there are a lot of people in this situation, that are essentially left out of this “big event.”

    I’ve only logged in for a few hours over the last several months because of the lack of content. The KotFE story is not enough for me to even bother with at this point (predicable, short, and no replay value), redoing old content sure as heck isn’t going to bring me back.

    On the bright side, I’ve been able to move on to other games and enjoy them. Unfortunately I’ve spent a lot of time and money on this game and would still be playing it if there was something worth my time to do, but EA/BW refuse to give long term players of their game new content. Maybe in a few years they’ll recycle the same old content with another “event” and I’ll have forgotten it enough to be willing to do it again.

  • Rompe Himself

    I guess Dulfy is too busy with GW2 and BDO and their ACTUAL content to give us her thoughts on this pathetic “event” by BW. May need to give those games or ESO another look now swtor is in unannounced maintenance mode and BW are content to ruin the game once and for all.

  • Yurt

    I would boycott this, but it’s such a tedious timesink I couldn’t find the time to if I wanted. Geez what kind of person has this much time over the summer? I got work, vacation, and ya know might want to get some sun while the nice weather lasts. Getting two toons up to 65 in a few months? Oh hell no, that just sounds not worth it even though the comps look nice.

  • Good event for new player and dumb as hell for old players. I have 16 55+ lvl chars on my server. Why the heck should I grind 8 more..well not surprised.

  • Leonardo Prieto

    Worst event ever in the history of the gaming (not just swtor)

  • Guest

    Welcome new players! Everyone else get bent.

  • Darth Ji’inx

    I find it concerning that the community has become even more toxic after this announcement. I, too, am a little disappointed with the event, especially since the achievements aren’t retroactive. However, that would most likely defeat the purpose of the event. In my opinion, the event is here to revitalize the older parts of the game while giving BW a break to prepare Season 2 for its release.

    While this event may not be the best idea, it’s better than nothing. The way I see it, they could take a break from releasing new content after Chapter XVI so they can finish working on the Season 2 release, meaning we’d only have old content to play, or they could do the same thing with brand new rewards for doing what we were probably going to do anyway. Keep in mind, that unless you attempt the final tier, you only need to make two new characters. Only one if you ignore the last two tiers.

    If you don’t like the event, then don’t play it. Just don’t ruin it for others who might want to play it.

    • Ahsoka

      On that note, the last few year anniversary rewards were fireworks.. this is still better 😉 At least it gives us a shot at the old Armors that we can’t get from most packs anymore. I’ll make the two toons, I can’t imagine I’ll have enough time to make 8, but that’s fine! They could have given us fireworks and not made a big deal of it, so to do anything is a plus.

      • Darth Ji’inx

        Agreed 🙂

    • Michael

      The problem is that doing nothing would have been less insulting. This is insulting

      • Darth Ji’inx

        They are giving us rewards for doing a lot of what we were probably going to be doing anyway while waiting on new content. I think the issue was the way they hyped the event.

        • Shawn Hargrave

          not only how they hyped but how they sold it as a “new” event this is just rehashing old content and it is insulting

      • Paulo Gomes

        Damned right mate. My point exactly!

    • Érik kartman

      Bioware shill stfu

      • Darth Ji’inx

        Then maybe you should leave…

        • I banned him 🙂

          • Darth Ji’inx

            Nice 🙂

    • Shawn Hargrave

      thats fine what yoru saying but the reason people are mad b/c they sold this as a “new” event and all this is rehashed content with incentive. People arent looking to make endless new toons (the subbed/vets anyways) i think thats what most are wound up about. Yes its true you dont have to do this event but i think it was a cheap shitty and lazy move on their part and will just make more people leave the game.

      • Darth Ji’inx

        I think the issue there was how they hyped and promoted it. Instead of promoting it as a new event, it might have been more reasonable to call it an incentivized program to revitalize certain aspects of the game.

      • Paulo Gomes

        Look Shawn, as I’ve already explained to Ji’inx, it’s not even the grind that upsets me. I can grind the game once more, Jesus I leveled a Jugg “back in the day” when it was REALLY a pain to level a toon… Just to get LIGHT-SIDE JAESA!!! And even THAT they took from me!!!

        Sure I have a time limit to do this, and I probably would not be able to complete it…

        What REALLY bothers me is that NO ONE can use their CURRENT toons to do ANY of this! All the toons I love, that I spent time AND money investing in, are not eligible…

        This was just sort of half-assed and I cannot prove beyond reasonable doubt, but they simply did not think this through.

        My first toon, and the “leader” of my Legacy is my Watchman Sentinel (actually a feamle WatchTwi’lek lol). She is my first option to do ANYTHING, and I’m really proud and fond of that character. If there’s an event that I cannot bring her to do, it’s not worth it. Period.

        To do this, I’d have to roll a meaningless char to grind through the game yet again. And for what? Where’s the choices that matter? I CHOSE my main character! I choose to do everything with her! Is this “epic”? I think not. It’s idiotic, at best…

    • Paulo Gomes

      Don’t ruin it for other players??? How am I supposed to do that? Do I log in with your account and mess up your glorious TOR day?

      This is not better than nothing. It’s a whole lot worse than nothing. This is a slap in my face, and countless other faces who have supported this game. Hell, if they did nothing I’d be ok with that. After all, I’m used to that by now. No, this is way worse.

      I don’t think some people understand how frustrating this is. So let me lay it out for ya.

      The really WORST part of this is not that I have to roll another toon or a couple to do it. It’s that I HAVE 24 TOONS TO PLAY WITH, AND THEY GET TO DO NOOOOOTHING!!!! ZERO!!! NADA!!! NIENTE!!!

      • Darth Ji’inx

        I get that many people dislike this event even though they are losing nothing. I, too, am somewhat disappointed. What bothers me is the way the community chooses to express its feelings. Instead of “This event is bad because we have to make new characters to repeat old content we’ve already done multiple times if we want new rewards and there is no new content available for the event,” I’m seeing, “This event is the worst thing ever! Devs have ruined the game! Fire Eric and all the devs! F U BioFail!” There’s a difference between expressing disappointment and flaming.

        Toxicity negatively impacts players who just want to enjoy the game. It’s about the atmosphere, not direct interference. It’s rather frustrating if you’re trying to enjoy something and everyone around you is saying how horrible it all is, as well as giving you grief about trying to stay positive about it.

        Again, if this event is just so awful that it completely ruins the game for you, then don’t play it. It’s that simple. Instead of seeing it as an opportunity to revitalize less played parts of the game with some bonuses to boot, you can do nothing if that’s what you prefer. It’s your prerogative what you do with your time and money. Just stay civil about. That SHOULDN’T be a problem.

        • Paulo Gomes

          Oh you got that right, I’m not spending ANY time playing this. That I can assure you.

          And I think you got it backwards: if there’s so much negativity about this,maybe, just MAYBE it’s not our fault. MAYBE it’s the accumulated frustration of seeing this game getting LAMER and LAMER by the passing minute. Yes, we may be venting months, if not YEARS of frustration. MAYBE the shit finally hit the fan my friend.

          But tell you what: instead of taking it out on us, take it out on the people DRIVING US TO THIS STATE. Take it out on the guys doing this. You see, we didn’t do ANYTHING but support the game. This is not OUR mess, it’s THEIRS. Adress your concerns to them. I will continue venting my frustration until I’m satiated. If that disturbs your playing experience… Well, I’m sad to say that is completely beyond my control.

          Sorry for any harder words I may have said. You’re not the enemy here, and I will try to stay civil, yes.

          • Darth Ji’inx

            I’m not blaming the cause of the negativity on those venting, I’m just bothered by the uncivil, nonconstructive manner in which they choose to express their feelings.

            While the overload of players venting does irritate me, it doesn’t affect my ingame experience personally.

            Thanks for that apology. To be clear on my part, I get that people are upset and I can see why. I understand. Again, it’s the flaming that bothers me.

            Theory: They are too busy working on Season 2 to devote resources to a completely new event.

            • Paulo Gomes

              Don’t bother scrolling down. I’ve copied the entire thing. I would be happy with ANY of these suggestions coming to life:

              “Look, there’s plenty of ideas that would be cool:

              – Upping rewards on dailies, or even a new daily, God forbid, would be cool. Dailies are mostly empty these days, and rightfully so, since you get more money AND crystals if you group up and do Heroics;

              – A new Casino event, but this time with REAL games! Screw the slot machines! Pazaak, Dejarik… With Tournaments! How cool would that be??? With some nice rewards for the Tournament winner(s). Introducing gamer decks of cards would be oh so cool;

              – Speeder races! On circuits spread across all planets, or some of them. If I may suggest: Tatooine (of course), Manaan, Oricon, Makeb, Voss (my fav planet)… Equally with rewards for the race winners. Like the ship game NO ONE plays, we could get our Cybertechs to produce upgrades for the speeders, and they could even make some money from developing Cartel Market speeders;

              – Since they always copy other MMO’s, might I suggest something like RIFT does: taking the Eternal Empire has Star Fortresses, how about they actually tried to INVADE a planet??? Having a sort of RIFT event, but with Eternal Empire troops…

              Of course, all this would involve ACTUAL work from the dev team. This is just bits and pieces I thought of out the top of my head. How in the name of the Force do these people not think of this??? Your guess is as good as mine…”

              • Darth Ji’inx

                I saw that post. Good ideas, but they would most likely take development time/resources away from Season 2. This event was likely all they could do while saving most of their resources for Season 2.

                Did you read my last reply?

              • Paulo Gomes

                There’s no reply down there… Did you reply at the other comment or do you mean the “theory” comment? That I did read, yes.

                Well, I’m pretty sure you’re right. But I wouldn’t mind taking a delay on Season 2 to have some of this implemented…

              • Darth Ji’inx

                That was the comment I was referring to…Good.

                But if they delayed longer than it probably will currently be delayed, more people would flame and unsub. Not a desirable outcome.

              • Andhros

                The Casinos could have benefited from some borrowing from other games. While allowing PvP should definitely be the goal of the casinos you could setup an intermediate PvE.

                Speeder races could start with sponsoring a racer, getting parts and drivers(who could also be part of the new wave of companions)

                Become a fight master and gear up your stable of Nar Shadaa/Zakuul gladiators(more comps)

                You could also gamble on the above 2 events outside of participation.

                Pazaak and other games, haven’t seen SW Roulette or poker, are played against the house.

                They could also have used it for a money sink by making gambling chips that don’t convert back to credits as readily and instead setup a prize shop.

              • Paulo Gomes

                See? Not that hard, is it? Amazing how an office full of devs could not come up with something better than: ” Hey, we have a new event! Lets replay the whole fucking game again, shall we?”

              • Andhros

                Add insult to injury almost all these features are available in the Mass Effect/Dragon Age series.

  • Mighty Bunnyking

    They are nuts if they think I’m going through all that.
    Never. Ever.

    • Disqus this

      And thats exactly the stance I hope people take. Hell, given how badly this was thought out, I hope people cancel their subs. It’s clearly time someone else took or the SW MMO game IP.

      • Don Loco

        Canceled mine and my sister is seriously thinking about doing the same. Been here since early 2012 and this is the most idiotic thing they’ve done yet.

      • Paulo Gomes

        Oh, but they were smart… To get most of those achievements, you only have to roll 2 chars. Well, imagine how many people are going to roll chars even DESPITE the darned thing? That’s a win-win situation: this way they can always claim the “event” was a resounding success…

        • Disqus this

          I really don’t think this time its going to work so well in their favor. This might have been the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.

          All that time and game play for the past 5 years and BW just says, “F” that do it all again if you want anything. On top of we have nothing new for you except 2 really small chapters in the next month and then nothing new for many months after that as you grind out 5 year old content.

          I just cant imagine anyone sitting at the design table and going, “Hey this is a great idea. Lets have them do it all again.” WTF!

        • Andhros

          Yep add me +3 to their success metrics for this event. Although we had planned to roll 2 new toons months ago, and this event just didn’t phase us enough to cancel our Summer plan.

          Did you mean that KotFE group play is broken or all group play since the release of 4.0? If all group leveling is screwed up then we obviously will do something different.

          • Paulo Gomes

            I have to be honest there: I haven’t tried to do KotFE with other people. SoR is definitely broken, it’s a pain to do that with a group… KotFE I have no information. Try it out, it may be a non-issue.

    • Darth Ji’inx

      You don’t HAVE to do it. Also, if you ignore the Legendary tier, that’s only two characters with a few endgame things.

  • Seph

    We had this event a few years back. Except we called it the “Playing the game from Scratch” event.

    • Disqus this

      Around 2012 I think it was. It had a different name back then instead of LS/DS Event. It was called “Game launch” IIRC.

    • Shawn Hargrave

      lol

  • Johnny Wright

    “How dare we have to play the game to receive rewards!”
    -The player base

    Like yeah I get that it’s a boatload of stuff to ask for, but shockingly, you don’t have to do it. It’s not like some titles, a companion, and a couple armor sets is the biggest reward ever. Yes, it’s more for new players, because, shockingly again, Bioware would like more players to give them money so they can afford to make more content. MMOs ain’t a charity.

    • Michael

      Johnny Wrong!

    • Don Loco

      That would be fine except for the fact they are NOT making new content with our money, just giving us a rehash of years old content we have done dozens if no more times.

      • Saihah

        but they are making new content, they have consistently hit their dates for new kotfe chapters 😕

        • Don Loco

          A hour once a month is not worth the hype. I have run three toons all the way through chapter 12 and only one up to 14. Try as I may I cannot get the enthusiasm to run one more toon through it, much less redo every single thing I’ve done time and again for the last few years. If that does it for you then more power to ya, just falls flat for me.

          • Saihah

            what precisely would you consider a reasonable amount of content?

            • Silko

              Gee I don’t know, how about a new Operation? We are now over a year and a half since a new Operation was launched.

            • Shawn Hargrave

              more then 5 minutes of story new raids and more. 5 minutes of story is not worth 15 bucks a month

            • Don Loco

              Perhaps content I can run with my guild instead of alone? New Ops, new PVP maps (even though I don’t do it)? A reasonable effort by the devs to add something, anything new to this train wreak? I have defended this game as long as I can, this was a step too bloody far.

              • Paulo Gomes

                That is YET another point people seem to forget: you used to be able to level your toons with a friend… Right up until SoR. I tried it once, and it was a bloody mess. We had different phases going, some phases would not appear to one of us, weird bugs started happening… We finally called it quits and did it solo, because we were spending twice the amount of time it would take to do solo…

                Oh and in case you’re wondering, that was my oldest and dearest friend on TOR. Phenomenal player. He taught me the ropes, carried me through content, got me in his guild, and then THOSE guys carried me through my first Ops…

                He quit… And so did everyone else…

    • Érik kartman

      hey look a bioware Shill

    • Darth Ji’inx

      Well said 🙂

      Prepare for a flame war :/

    • Khaous

      I was originally against this event but the rewards and the fact that I just got a couple of friend to sub and play makes this an okay thing for me. Get rewarded as I go through the content again there are worse things that bioware could have done.

      • Darth Ji’inx

        Exactly 🙂

    • Shawn Hargrave

      this is pure lazyness on biowares part and anyone who falls for this shit i have a toothpick deathstar i want to sell you for 500 million i accept paypal

  • Akagi

    Do you remember Bioware’s Open Letter to the community? Here is the link again: http://dulfy.net/2016/04/19/swtor-biowares-open-letter-to-swtor-players/

    I regard this as a bad joke on the player expenses.

    I unsubbed SWTOR in December 2015 and planed to re-sub in December 2016 to play KOFTE and season 2 during the christmas days, but now I think I stay unsubbed and spend my money on ESO. Zenimax delivers fresh content on three-month base.

    • Leah

      I know right? ESO gave us dark brotherhood. SWTOR gave us… 5 new datacrons and a “reason” to redo all the old content we already did.

    • slimj091

      You probably should have. The other two people playing ESO have been waiting for a third for a while now.

      • Paulo Gomes

        Oh I don’t know about that… You probably don’t really have a grasp on what ESO is all about these days… Ignorance is bliss, right???

  • DrewtheWanderer

    This is what they wasted their time on? Pathetic.

  • revan1337

    The rewards are Binds on Pickup.. Great so if want to make 1 new Bounty Hunter and if i get for example a Sith Recluse set i cannot mail it to my main Sith. That sucks. I hope they will make these packs binds to legacy otherwise it is not worth it. ( I just ignore the last part of the event, i only need the comp)

  • Dakhann

    I have a question and i don’t know if it was answered before. The Terms and Conditions state that: “SUBSCRIPTION GAMEPLAY REQUIRED TO COMPLETED VALIANT, CHAMPION, ETERNAL, AND LEGENDARY LEVELS.” Does this mean that I have to be an active subscriber to complete those or just have access to the KOTFE? I got it up to chapter 14, but that’s it and I don’t really plan on resubbing…

    • Havik79

      Well one of them you have to do chapter 16 to get the rewards, so yeah you would need to sub to do it, and it will end before season 2 starts.

      • Dakhann

        Thanks m8! I just hope I’m gonna be able to complete the event up to valiant level without spending anything 🙂

        • Darth Ji’inx

          Once Chapter XVI comes out in late July, you only have to sub once and you would retain access to it even after the sub ends.

    • Leah

      there’s also a matter of having to both make 1 mil credits and buy a decoration that costs one mil credits. preferred credit limit is 350k, so even if you have all existing chapters unlocked… better get THAT part done before subscription expires

    • Darth-Robin

      you need an active sub for kofte chapters, being able to have more then the pathetic 350k credit cap and being able to do operations.
      it sucks i know

      • Dakhann

        But if I’m not aiming for the highest tier there shouldn’t be any problems? I don’t really want the tank but the 50% bonus exp armor sounds sweet. So apart from access to chapter XVI everything should be fine?

  • Ragyō Kiryūin

    This “event” is complete and utter BULLSHIT and a kick in the nuts with steel toed boots to all veteran players who have ALREADY done this shit many many MANY times in the past!!!

    • Shawn Hargrave

      yep and their relying on the carebears who defend this shit to fall for this b/c they will on a grand scale lolz /smh hard to believe people are this stupid to fall for this shit just /smh

      • Ragyō Kiryūin

        The REALLY Sad part, A friend of mine wanted me to come back to WoW since Legion will be coming out at the end of Aug. Before I was only considering going back but after I read the details of this “event” I think I’ll take her up on her offer and go back to WoW for awhile.

  • laniko

    Just unsub who dosent like it. Dont give cash to that scum, they now just giving old content as new stuff…lets play game from start to get cc pack items and shity titles…8x50lvl .i.

  • LmfaoGetRekt

    LMFAO… gg bioware… for one, I’m happy about this event, mainly because now all the people that laughed at the raiders for bitching about the lack of new content, are now bitching about the lack of new content. Enjoy your shit, you should have listened to all the raiders when we were complaining, instead of being a biodrone and denying that they are making decisions that are slowly but surely killing this game. I give it another year or two of heavy recycled single player missions and cartel market crap before they fully shut down the servers. You know how EA is, they like to make sure they get every last dollar before they shut servers down on games.

  • Dyrtidieds

    No thanks. I will never EVER level a new toon again.

    • Matheus

      I see no problem in leveling a new toon. I just don’t want to be obliged to do so.

      • Ragyō Kiryūin

        it’s not just a toon it’s all 8 classes you need to lvl AGAIN if you are going for the leg tier.

  • Whitedragon

    Everybody needs to make their decision now, you can’t wait a month and then decide to do it…

  • Ysomad

    If you just approach this event for what it is, it isn’t that bad. The knee jerk nerdrage / video game addict reaction is so sad. Really is. You people are acting like you need to go into “no life” mode and speed run through this, as if BW is forcing you to regrind the entire game – the event is basically a giant side quest for the super bored, you get 4 months to chip away at it. Not a big deal IMO. The complaints about it not being “new content” is a legitimate one but honestly, what’d you expect from BW at this point? Also, neither is the night life event new content (if they were to bring it back) which people were asking for. A new chapter is coming along with this as well so there is some new content on the way, even if its not what your looking for.

    • Whitedragon

      hmm

    • Unoshi

      but this is not an event, Gree, Rak, Bounty, Night Life those were things added to the game as a event and being removed again after a certain period of time. This is not being added or removed. this is basically play the entire game from start to finish again if you want said rewards.

      Does it come as a shocker that we would have nothing to do for four months, not at all! at least not to me.

      Yeah people will still be doing this for the rewards and such but this would have been a good idea when the game started or somewhere half a year later.

      wasn’t expecting much for the LS,DS “event” but this is just pure lazy work. Season 2 Better be one hell of a season

      • Shawn Hargrave

        this is why you dont give ea your money season 2 will not be a hell of a season it will just be more rehashed crap and cc gambling packs

        • Risqu’e

          Season 2 – replay season 1 again!

          • Shawn Hargrave

            lol

    • slimj091

      Pretty much. Diablo 3 seasons are pretty popular, even if it’s doing the same thing you’ve done many many times before. I suspect people will be shutting up when they start getting the rare cartel pack items they’ve always wanted for nothing more than playing the game.

  • Dimitris Vernis

    I play this game since beta! I am from the launch a subs! I have achieved legendary player status, got all datacrons and basically did all the required for this event stuff during all these years.

    Of course I wont stop playing the game that I love, but BW once again…jeeez, epic fail!

    I say NO, thank you!

    • Shawn Hargrave

      oh come on its new content lolz.

      • Guest

        They never said it was new content, other then the comp, so once again you fail Hargrove.

        • Shawn Hargrave

          oh look everyone its a fanboi! i found one theres one left but he’s hiding an a guest account as usual /sigh /smh

  • Whitedragon

    in my humble opinion , alot of people will be doing this, the planets will be full, group finder will be instapop, PVP queues instapop -much waiting around for things to re-spawn. ninjas everywhere, credit farmers taking everything, it’s gonna be great..

  • Shawn Hargrave

    AAAWHAHAHAHAHA i knew it. Seriously how stupid do they think people are? THIS is what they call a new event? just lolz i knew they were gonna be lazyasses and pull some stupid bs like this ok lemmings defend your glorious game /smh

  • branmakmuffin

    The dumbest event ever, even lamer than EC. But there are the OCD monkeys who will wet themselves over it because they have to do everything. And it doesn’t affect me, so, party on, OCD monkeys. And I suppose it’s a good thing for new subscribers who have not done any of this stuff already. Extra rewards for stuff they would be doing anyway.

  • Valkris84KT

    At this point maybe we just all unsub for a week in protest, I’m sure BW would have no choice then to respond if 500+ subs just cut their subscription. Those who are unwilling to unsub out of principle shouldn’t buy a single cartel market item that week, and for the F2P user base I would just not log on. BW needs to see an opposition to this “event” which let’s be real here it’s the ultimate FU to us fans who kept playing & defending it.

    If they wanted to give back to the player base, maybe all the awards should be retroactive to your current legacy, then if you decide to fill in the blanks to finish off the champion/eternal/legendary requirements it would be your choice rather feeling forced to start fresh after 5yrs dedication. Seriously we should all be on the same page and realize we have the power. I’m tired of HK themed items which require next to nothing in development, less then 2h of story content a month, unnecessary nerfs to classes, and now a community event which forces you to start fresh for more meaningless awards stripped from the CM, oh and 2 more companions(slaves) since they have no personality, story, or reason to being in the game.

    Fight back, fight with your wallet, fight for common sense and don’t let an EA property get away with this.

    • Shawn Hargrave

      they put very little effort into this “event” and its very insulting to subbed people and vets i can see the appeal to new people but other then that this is just rehashed content bieng sold as “new”

      • Valkris84KT

        I had a funny thought of a large group TOR subscribers flying to Austin with Black/Brown Robes and beating Eric Musco half to death with ForceFX Sabers making the local news. It would be a real Light vs Dark Event for sure LOL.

        • Shawn Hargrave

    • Лев Сафаров
      • iowaboynca

        that’s adorable

      • Darth Ji’inx

        I, too, would like the rewards to be retroactive, but I think that would defeat the purpose of the event. The purpose is to revitalize areas of the game that may not be that popular anymore. If the rewards are retroactive, then it defeats that purpose. It would also make it so only new players would do the event, meaning veteran players like us would have no influence over which companion we would get/future impact of the winning side of this event on the game. It sucks, but it makes sense :/

    • Dr-Waffle The-Third

      I agree with the boycott. There is only one language bioware can understand. Money.

  • John Doe

    Enjoy :))))

  • Nomad

    wow…people still whining over this

    • Don Loco

      Yeah, this is almost as bad as the slot machine fiasco. The devs really stepped on their meat with this one.

  • InquisitorTremayne

    I’m actually looking forward to this. Gives me a reason to level new toons that I have been meaning to level for quite some time. Instead of just doing same old end game stuff with my other 15 65s. Been wanting to max out toons on my server, this is the incentive to do so.

    • branmakmuffin

      If you are looking forward to it, good for you. For me, and for seemingly a lot of others, the event might as well not exist. “Slap in the face” is, as usual, retarded hyperbole, but it’s still a pretty disappointing “event.”

    • John Kosto

      You have to start at level 1. So good luck with that.

    • Dr-Waffle The-Third

      yeah, this event has two polar-opposites. One side being great for one part of the community, whilst the other is a pinecone up the anus. Good for new players. Bad for veteran players. Thanks for being considerate and for thinking this through bioware!

  • Kryel

    The one part on the main page about this announcement that really excited me is something I fail to truly understand.
    Anyone can clarify that KNIGHTS OF THE FALLEN EMPIRE STORY BONUS PACK** is basically 1 month subscription + 555 Cartel Coins + 1 Lv 60 Character Token?

    Because the whole…
    “Unlock and binge the exciting story of Knights of the Fallen Empire and become the Outlander!”
    …made me think first that KotFE finally became an expansion pack I can unlock forever with a one time puchase (like Rise of the Hutt Cartel and Shadow of Revan). But then it continues with the whole sub thing and made it sound more like you unlock it by being a sub (like you could do it anyway so far).

    Otherwise I would love this event if it came with a huge patch for the base game. Bug/glitch fixes and some new content (like more companion quests for the not-recruited-first ones; I like the companions).

    • Leah

      basically knights of the fallen empire acess chapters so far is unlocked with a single month of subscription. this so-called deal just gives you 105 extra cartel coins vs what you would have gotten if you bought one month of subscription and $5 worth of cartel coins. its really not much of a deal at all.

      • Kryel

        So it is exactly I feared. Damn it.
        Thanks for the clarification!

  • Rydarus

    Anyone who does not unsub as soon as season one ends is just as complicit in the bullshit as BW is.
    It’s time to unsub for this bullshit event… and send BW a message

    • Whitedragon

      🙂

    • Slozin

      Pretty much you’re complicit if you have stayed sub since the release of KotFE. Other than the 30 minutes of content once a month, have they really given a reason to stay subbed? The sub rewards are pretty lame and they’ve made it pretty clear they don’t care about the playerbase at all.

  • dawgbone

    I don’t think it’s as grindy as some are thinking it is. For instance, getting all 8 classes to 50 doesn’t mean you need to do the full story. You can level up pretty quickly doing a few class missions combined with heorics, pvp, flashpoints and gsf.
    I ran my secondary sentinel and went 1-50 in about 10 hours solo. It would probably be much faster doing it with someone else.

    The only story stuff you need to do is Revan and Kofte, but that’s only on 2 characters.
    All that being said, I don’t have much interested in doing that.

    • Darth Ji’inx

      It looks like only one character out of the two has to do the expansions. Both have to be 65, though.

    • Nyethux

      Also consider that after you complete the first to stages you will get an armor set with +50% experience so leveling all the rest will be way faster

  • Raphael Laurenge

    As if I was gonna level up multiple toons AGAIN… HAHAHA how stupid / desperate do they think people are? Every time I think they can’t go any lower, they surprise me by doing much worse. Swtor story is a sad one indeed.

  • Jinn Kazama

    Genius!! not only are they asking us to start over… but founders will probably need to start noob toons on a different server???!!! or spend CC on unlocks…
    Well, isn’t that just a kick in the loyalty program. :/
    and if we do this “EPIC” event on a different server… the only way to get the rewards back to our real legacy… spend CC on transfers or CC on collection unlocks. Niiiicceee

    Either way it seems the event is really a way to force people to buy character unlocks or transfers. If there really is a mega sale like Musco hinted then I’ll only be disappointed instead of embittered.
    For the love of Malgus!!! bring back the programmers who knew how to make an awesome event. (Original Rak event)

    However all this nerd rage aside… getting a toon to 50 is much faster than it used to be. Guild bonus + XP bonus + that XP armor bonus; just do all the heroics and you’re at 50. Seriously, it’s ludicrous speed. Heroic transports to the entrances… back to fleet for the next set… transport… fleet… … bam! u at 50! (and they drop decent loot)
    However, Musco wants us to do all that just to delete them when it hits 50? 0.o Really? that is your solution?

    The real grind is the L5 ls/ds, Revan and KOTFE story rewards… WTB auto ls/ds dialog macro and cutscene disabler.
    I’m willing to bet getting 2 toons to level 5 ls/ds will take about as long as 8 toons to 50… but will be much more of a grind as we Back Talon/Essles infinite loop style.

    BioWare, make a ls/ds multiplier and make character slot unlocks mega cheap… k’thanks-bye

    • Nomad

      ziost gets a hundred as well and fairly quick

    • jaydog

      “End of event Cosmetic Rewards – Things like the Companion and the vehicles will come at the end of the event and will be delivered to every character on the account, similar to the monthly sub rewards.”

      If you go on a server that is not your main character and earn the main rewards on that server (such as Comp and vehicles ) your entire account gets it…so it doesnt matter which server you are on if you only care about the comp (like me)

      And if you take two characters (one you chose to do lightside, and the other dark) and actually do both the class and planet stories, you can easily get to the low end of dark or high end of light by the time you hit KOTFE.

      All depends on how you play. and like you said, its MUCH easier to get to 50 than it was before.

      And i don’t see them NOT doing a double xp weekend at least once while this event is active.

  • Shawn Hargrave

    what is the point of all this? to get more toons at end cap to have more toons to do nothing with lol. I have a feeling this companion is going to be a good laugh as well just another pokemon. I dont think any comp is worth doing this. I been laughing about this so much today im glad to see people are finally coming around for what ive been saying for a long time now pretty sad

    • branmakmuffin

      NOTHING is worth doing this, unless a player is new and would be doing all this stuff anyway. There is zero enticement for vets to do it, IMO.

    • Michael

      Fortunately this shut up our favorite community. Fanbois. Where’s the Fanbois now?

      • Shawn Hargrave

        LOL there probably to busy getting ready for this “new” event there was 1 on a guest account having at it to embarrased i guess to be out in the open supporting this stupid bs

      • Paulo Gomes

        There’s a few creaping up here and there… They mostly just upvote when someone says something positive about this…

  • This is pathetic and disgusting. I think you’re a little confused, Bioware. You’re the ones who haven’t played your own game. Over four years and the best you can present us with is… a TUTORIAL? I’m sorry, WHAT?

  • Fred Garvin

    Reads giant post promising rewards for doing same old crap ALL OVER AGAIN on a toon I care nothing about and thinks:

    • Fred Garvin

      “If you achieve the top tier reward you get…….YOUR VERY OWN COMPANION! (or the 38th companion that’s just as cookie cutter useless as all the rest…see you in a few months for another 45 minutes of on-rails gameplay!”)

    • Naq

      At the time of my reply there is nothing after the word “thinks”. Accidental best post? Get mad, think out response, sets it up with some pointform and……nothin.

      “Guise! This is how I feel!” *stares blankly*

      • Fred Garvin

        I’d take an “Accidental” award for best post…lol.

        Though staring blankly into space not being able to type anything in response to something SWTOR does is probably quite a frequent happening.

        • Naq

          Would pretty much sum up how I have felt about swtor lately. I don’t wish the game ill will, but I just….meh….nothin. *stares blankly*

          *rides back to tamriel on her Yoshi*

  • frickenWaaaltah

    Can we get an event guide for this event guide? So much read, muh brain…

    • Shawn Hargrave

      their is no event all you need to do is level toons mindlessly over and over thats the event and im bieng serious not kidding or anything

      • Darth Ji’inx

        You have to do more than just level 😉

    • Zak Ember

      I put something together! Check it out! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNQ5nHWVPiY

  • Zak Ember

    I put together a leveling breakdown to try to help with this event! Check it out here, there’s link in the body of the video to Google docs you can download!

    • Darth Ji’inx

      Great breakdown 🙂

  • RandomFan

    Here I was, bored out of my skull thinking and pondering
    what to do since I need to find a new game, when all of the sudden I hear the
    clanking of metal on stone. As I take a look of the office window I can see a group
    of [white knights] across the street slowly walking into an abandoned
    warehouse. As they walk up to the door of the place they seem to be discarding
    their scratched and dinged white armor into a pile before continuing in.

    Curiosity gets the better of me and I decide to check out
    what’s this all about. As I begin to cross the street and look at the people slowly
    shuffling into the warehouse, what few faces I can make out seem sad and
    exhausted as if they had just come from in defeat from a great battle. I don’t
    know why but I started feeling empathy for the poor bastards and started
    feeling down myself.

    As I am nearing the doors I can make out the familiar
    commotion of a gathering of people cheering and hollering from somewhere inside
    the building. Just as I am about to enter, I hear a stern voice that says, “We
    have been expecting you. Please leave your armor outside”.

    I look down and don’t remember how or when, but it seems
    am also wearing one of those white chest plates. Not wanting to miss whatever
    was going on inside I quickly toss it on the slowly growing pile of discarded
    armor and walk in. As I go in and through the lobby and up to the double doors
    that let inside into the main floor of the building I can hear a loud voice that
    quiets down the crowd as it begins to speak.

    “Brothers, sisters, too long I have warned you of this
    day. Long have I tried to reason with you and warn you of the impending doom
    that awaited you all, yet all of you had me for just another charlatan, a madman
    barking at the moon. But finally, the day has arrived…”, and it was just then
    when I opened the doors and saw a large crowd of people standing before this
    man as he finished his sentence:

    • RandomFan

      As one we all began to hail, “Death to Biofail!”

      (Well at least I know I can entertain myself w/o a video
      game now. This is my version of a day when many defeated jedi decide to bow down
      before a new master and join the dark side. P.S. I would start calling Shawn
      Master, but I know I am not worthy.)

    • Whitedragon

      so what are you trying to say?

    • Shawn Hargrave

      how dare you use my likeness…

      • RandomFan

        *Gasp* The chosen one!

  • TMNJ

    I wonder if they’re gonna change anything, considering how big backlash was.

    • Shadowofdeath

      funny, really. Bioware almost never takeso n board feedcak from players

      • Paulo Gomes

        Oh, I got a better one for ya:

        Remember when they recently made a poll to check how many people wanted to nerf the comps or keep them as they were? Well, roughly 70% of the people that voted wanted to keep comps as they were… They went ahead and nerfed them anyway, HARD… And the ensuing shitstorm was so huge they had to bolster them a fair bit more…

        These people are NOT WORTHY of a game like this, and they are killing it slowly, bit by bit…

        They are utterly and hopelessly CLUELESS.

    • Rompe Himself

      Considering how they nuked the slot machines and left it at that (That is but one example) coupled with Bioware’s now legendary laziness and utter incompetence, I think it is a good bet they will NOT be changing anything.

  • Paradigm_Shift

    Please everyone, do not be alarmed!!! The Titanic is not sinking!! I repeat, the Titanic is not sinking.
    http://www.torstatus.net/shards/us/trends
    http://www.torstatus.net/jedi-covenant/trends/60d
    http://www.torstatus.net/the-ebon-hawk/trends/60d
    http://www.torstatus.net/the-harbinger/trends/60d
    http://www.torstatus.net/the-shadowlands/trends/60d

    I wonder what the trends might look like after Tuesday.

    • Whitedragon

      its all good

  • Gavelkynde

    So every four to five months I’ve paid enough in subscription to buy a new game.

    Like a whole entirely new game.

    What does SWTOR give me in four to five months?

    Er… a duster? Some guns I don’t use. Some chapters of ‘Classic’ Bioware storytelling where I get to go down two corridors into a room and kill 12 mobs once a month.

    If Donald Trump owned an MMO it would be JUST LIKE THIS.

    • Darth Ji’inx

      No, SWTOR isn’t “yuge” enough…

  • Guess Now I Know How He Felt

  • Kobie

    Well, fuck this. I have 19 level 65s on Harbinger. I’ll be damned if I’m going to re-roll on another server or delete one of my characters so I can participate in this.

  • FastTraxx

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! this is a total bullshit event. Biofail continue to take their customers for idiots. Please DO NOT fall into Biofail’s trap, and do yourself a favor and quit playing this so-called game if you want to show your disgust with their stupid tactics to take your money.

    • slimj091

      Take my money? Bioware has never forcibly taken any money from me. Don’t worry in 5 or 6 years when you are old enough to work you’ll be able to afford to buy things. You’ll hopefully also stop typing run on sentences.

      • FastTraxx

        And how old are you? listen kid, you have no idea what run-on sentences are obviously, so shut your trap and stop typing altogether. Now go play in the streets.

  • Robert Tanksley

    Sorry to the haters but I applaud hope are for this event. It is more than what wow gets….

  • Hazel Emerson

    Sooooo…. if I level a non-force user through this event, I can look forward to getting a bunch of sith/jedi themed bind on pickup items? I havent played trooper or bounty hunter yet and was planning on leveling them through the event, but it looks like a lot of the rewards are force-themed. I wish the items were bound to legacy.

  • iowaboynca

    the QQ is strong…

    • Don Loco

      Now I know what I’ll be spending that money on 🙂

  • spacecat

    Full checklist for all tiers (because I like handy checklists, not because I’m actually going to do all this again):

    50 gree droids
    50 rakghouls
    Infect 5 players with the rakghoul plague
    50 Oricon NPCs
    World Bosses:
    ..Quesh Warbot
    ..Hoth Snowblind
    ..Belsavis Primal Destroyer
    ..Alderaan Siegebreaker
    ..Ziost Worldbreaker Monolith (i.e. the non-instanced one, not the colossal monolith)
    Ops bosses:
    ..KP 5th boss – Karagga
    ..TfB 3rd boss – Operator IX
    ..Ravagers 1st boss – Sparky
    ..DF 2nd boss – Draxus
    ..SnV 2nd boss – Titan 6
    EtCh full run on solo mode
    All tactical flashpoints
    Every hard mode flashpoint
    5 GSF battles
    5 warzones
    3 bounty contracts (kingpins? probably not)
    L50 each class
    Max all 6 crafting skills
    Dark V
    Light V
    The “new” (?) datacrons (omg new content?????)
    1m credits on one character
    Buy some deco for 1m
    Unlock HK-51
    Stronghold intro mission
    Valor 5
    SoR main story (“The Enemy Within”) – so not Ziost?
    Ziost storyline
    KotFE chapter 1-16
    5 alliance alerts

    Not required:
    Any class missions
    Makeb/RoHC
    Any new raids or actual content (except five new datacrons HYPE)

    • spacecat

      Just going to put this out there…if they don’t add any new datacrons with this, I’m going to LOSE MY SHIT. /j

    • Genbuthesaint

      The only ones that tick me off is the max each class and the crafting skills. I really don’t want to do all the pub classes again. The first time was torture. Other than that i think i’ll have a bit of fun with this event. Got a few friends i can do this with.

      • Guest

        Max crafting skills isn’t really that hard if you have the mats already. Just craft the assembly components. That’s the essayist part of this giant grind fest. Who has the time to get 8 alts to 50 and 2 all the way through KotFE by the end of fall?

  • noobsshadow

    “Quote: Originally Posted by snave

    Hey Eric. Anything in place for people who have no free character spots?

    There are a few options:

    Complete the objectives on a different server than the server where you are capped.

    Purchase additional Character Slots (to make this easier the team is planning to put these on sale at the start of the event)”

    ^^ Yeah, yet another stupid scam event to make us buy more shit from the cartel market.

  • noobsshadow

    This whole event is just a gimmick to make everyone do old content they’ve already done to death. I was excited at first, but after reading this I totally don’t fucking care. I have 15 lvl 65’s on my main server/legacy. I’m not buying 8 more slots just for this stupid retro garbage.

  • GiftoftheMagi

    My two credits on this:

    No.

    Many have already nailed this event by calling it a “speed run”. Summer time does not mean tons of free time for players, most of which have jobs and families, and some having kids. camping and family events to attend to. The sheer amount of time to complete the higher end level would require most players to put in at least 4-6 hours a day until the end of the event.

    Worse, the event is asking players to make disposable characters to run through old content as fast as they can, without paying any attention to content or story, to run through Flashpoints as quickly as possible, to storm the events and mass-kill NPC mobs. In essence, this event emphasizes the worst aspects of MMOs: grinding and area farming. There is no time at all to actual enjoy this event, because if you want a change to get anything out of it, you have to GO.

    For a game and a company that prides itself on story and content, this is a leap backwards. Even if the event creates a “change” in the universe afterward, it was only due to the efforts of those that least care.

    So yeah, I’m not interested. Thanks but no thanks. I rather remain playing my game at my own pace, working on the characters I have carefully constructed, roleplaying when I can and spending the majority of my summer free time with my kid.

    • Big Boo

      Well said. Way to go, Bioware…. way….to….go.

  • Majmo Mendez

    Fuck this, I’m going back to WoW.

    • jhdkdfhk

      Yeh, play a game where everything looks like a smurf village.

      • Paulo Gomes

        A working, mostly bug-free smurf village, yes…

    • RodoHermoza

      booooo ….. Love SWTOR

  • lore

    They need to seriously boost up rewards for this. They are asking players to complete content that many people playing have already completed, many times. That deserves better rewards than what they are offering.

    Also, they should add some content for this. Maybe a warzone (or at least a warzone mode) that pits light side vs darkside players. Maybe a few new side quests that open (involving the new companion) when you activate the light v dark character.

    Here is how this should have been implemented: Once you level up your new “vs” character a new planet opens. This planet was once balanced but light and dark forces are trying to tip the scales. By completing daily objectives on the planet up until (whenever they want to end this) you will decide if the planet goes dark or light. The event also includes: a new warzone based on this planet and one new light tactical flashpoint and one new dark tactical flashpoint.

    Once it ends, the planet goes light or dark and a new set of missions opens on the planet based on the choice.

  • Big Boo

    J3$** Chr1$t…..more complicated B.s. I remember when this game was fun. Have to use 8 different characters, can’t get the rewards on my older toons… :/ No bueno Amigos.

  • Big Boo

    So many cool rewards… so much lame B.S to go through to get it. Just put it in a pack and be done with it. Build more raids and story content please. How about a few new planets.. how about Mandalore, ect…

    • Galemcaedus

      New raids aren’t happening until 2017

    • Guest

      Yeah because creating an event where you do existing content is equivalent to creating new Ops and story…..

  • MTCason

    Any information out there about the new cartel pack that is coming Tuesday alongside all of this? The Deceptor Pack, isn’t it? Haven’t had any previews of it yet which is quite unusual.

    • TMNJ

      I’m waiting for data-mining results as well. I hope it’ll show how this reward armor sets look like. The one on concept art is ok, curious about other ones. Plus I’m waiting without any hope for KotOR blaster weapons.

  • Imust do it, there is nothing more to do after Ziost since 2000 years ago

    • RodoHermoza

      lol

  • Whitedragon

    common, Alot of people will be doing this, the planets will be full, group finder will be instapop, PVP queues instapop ,waiting around for things to re-spawn WOOHOO!. ninjas everywhere, credit farmers taking everything, IT’S GONNA BE GREAT!..

  • Baconcat

    Good thing I started playing WoW again.

    • Whitedragon

      WoW is for little girls…

      • Galemcaedus

        And for gluttonous overweight males with social anxiety.

        • Whitedragon

          LOL!

        • Genbuthesaint

          Or normal well adjusted people who enjoy the game?

          • Kaelin

            its just annoying to read “bla-bla-bla I play WoW bla-bla!!!” and just how amazing their precious WoW is in swtor forums. Don`t they have better thing to do, like play their oh so amazing WoW?

    • Kaelin

      deleted the WoW after 30 min of gameplay, not regretting it

  • Genbuthesaint

    I think i’ll have some fun with this event. Got a few friends i can do this with. The crafting skills are annoying and i’m not looking forward to leveling a bunch of new pubs, but you get a 50% boost and don’t have to do the story for them. Just get them to 50, so that’s not too bad. We all knew this was a time killer so they could buy time for the next expansion. What were you expecting? I’ll admit it’s a bit of a bummer, but it’s something to do and i’m going to stay subbed for it.

  • WStevens1701

    Pretty much my reaction after reading about this event:

  • Ahtirm

    From what I understand, not everything is is legacy/account wide. So those eight throwaway characters you make are going to have rewards deleted with them. That’s my biggest issue with this whole event, every little reward should be at the least bound to legacy since the majority of the rewards I would only ever use on my main three toons.

    Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.

    • Whitedragon

      you can unlock items for CC

      • Ahtirm

        So I have to pay to unlock what I have already earned? That is low.

        • Whitedragon

          yep fun isn’t free

        • Unoshi

          just as it is right now. Get a full set, want to use it on other character do a full account wide unlock. Nothing new to be seen here.

          titles are legacy wide already.
          XP boost gear will be legacy bound.
          only thing that wont be are those weapon tuning which are themed DS/LS like in the companion gif

          Everything else cosmetic wise will be mailed to all characters on that account. new and old. so you pretty much will have everything for every character should you decide to partake and unlock every level.

    • Skadge’s brother

      In the Q&A:

      Originally Posted by Iymurra

      Q:
      Eric,
      Do the 8 characters that we need to level
      need to be active at the end of the event or can we delete them as we
      hit 50 to achieve the Alliance Hero requirement?
      Many of us no
      longer have 8 free character slots on our primary legacy server and have
      no desire to delete high level toons to create throwaway 50s.

      A:
      Once you have completed the objective by receiving the achievement,
      that character no longer needs to be active. So you could level to 50 on
      a character, and then delete it.

      -eric

  • vote with your metrics!

    Let’s show them that new” Dark vs. Light event” is a bad idea in a different way.

    Step #1 – Don’t log in to the game on 6/28. At all. Show them this isn’t for you.
    Step #2 – Don’t participate in the “event.” At all. If they see that saying “We’re out of content, just start over and we’ll give you a shiny” gets people to do that, they’ll stop producing content altogether. Keep in mind, new players will still obviously get this stuff, but they have to see that people aren’t willing to do it OVER.
    Step #3 – Don’t help others participate in the “event.” It seems like a jerk move, but a lot of these things require people to seek help from the community. Don’t enable the “event”! Take your mats of the GTN. Don’t group with people for FPs.
    Step #4 – Spread the word. If you hear other people complaining in the next week, urge them to do these things as well. Talk to people in game. Explain why this is such a bad idea.

    The beauty of this is, if you don’t agree with me, you can vote with your metrics as well. If more people think this is a good idea than a bad, it may be time for me to hang up my saber. If more people think this is a bad idea than a good, perhaps there is someone at BW with a brain that may look and finally say, “Guys – I think our metrics may be wrong.” Eric is obviously reading the thread – he doesn’t care. Ben has read the replies to his open letter and sees the questions on the streams. He doesn’t care. We have to reach people in a different way. If you have ideas to add, please do. If you’ll be joining me in voting with metrics, please add your name and discuss your reasoning. Heck, even if you think this ISN’T BW’s worst idea to date, I’d like to hear why. Thanks for reading.

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=886320

    • Whitedragon

      :/

    • Лев Сафаров
    • Guest

      I hate the metric system I’ll stick with the American standard.

    • Jonathan Doe

      Yeah, i’m sure the people complaining about GTN prices are going to miss “a chance” of winning some nice gear just because you are asking nicely.

      • Guest

        That “nice gear” is bound to the character. The legacy with xp boost is pointless for long time players.

        • Patrick Bateman

          No. They said it’ll go into legacy much like how pack stuff does. Which is extra scummy because it will require people to spend 400 cc to unlock anything worth a damn, especially since you can only do this with completely new characters.

          People will end up doing it. People will bitch. People will complain. But they’ll still do it. Nothing will change, Bioware won’t get the message, and this game will continue going down the shitter. People always say speak with your wallet, speak with your actions. Nobody ever does though. Which is sad. I wish people would do that. Maybe then they’ll open their eyes and stop being contemptuous assholes to their playerbase.

          • Paulo Gomes

            I’ve had enough. I won’t even bother to do anything except express my frustration in this forum. I’m trying to buy the physical game edition of the Elder Scrolls Online as I write this… Funny thing is, it’s COMPLETELY sold out in my country…

            • Michael Witkowski

              Physical edition is hard to find these days. I highly recomend the game, gave me a lot of fun, especially new extensions (tons of grinding in the end game tho), and it’s on sale at G2A right now, give it a shot. 🙂

              • Paulo Gomes

                Oh, but it shouldn’t be hard to find… Someone on the Forum just said that only 3 people play it, it should be REALLY easy to find… Right??? 🙂

              • Patrick Bateman

                I’m personally looking more and more into playing it. It’s on sale on Steam right now for like 50% off. Has the new Dark Brotherhood expansion as well. It looks promising. The problem is digging into another MMO when I could be playing other games.

                But it looks like a hell of a lot better prospect than this. At least the content is new and meaningful. Game might have launched with a lot of issues but they’ve really tried to sort it out. SWTOR on the other hand launched with a lot of issues, they sorted it out somewhat, and now they’re fucking it up beyond belief.

              • Paulo Gomes

                When game launched it was a joke. But a motivated and creative team of devs can make all the difference it seems…

                I play a couple other MMO’s, most notably RIFT. But the problem for me is identifying with the lore of the game. Of course, I have no such problem with Star Wars…

                But Elder Scrolls might be different! I played all iterations of the Single-Player game, and I think I might just feel immersed in it right away. I will DEFINITELY give it a go…

              • Shawn Hargrave

                sto is going strong and good lore is awesome in sto but to each his own = )

              • Paulo Gomes

                If ESO turns out to be weak for me, that is my next option… 😉

              • Shawn Hargrave

                lol

              • Andhros

                Nope. As an early swindled I know that they pulled an Atari ET on that game and stuck it in cement and buried it in a landfill.

                In all seriousness, I couldn’t get into it, although I think that was a design… flaw? Basically my main group couldn’t play together as I play Imperial, 1 plays Argonian, 1 plays Breton and the last plays an Altmer in the mainline ESO games. Only the Argonian still plays and loves it, but fair warning if you have RL friends you may have to make some sacrifices in order to play as a group. If you plan on meeting new people in game you should be fine.

                Also I haven’t played in a long time so it might be different now. Should be fine if you like subbing or purchase a lot of crowns upfront as my brother says new content isn’t cheap.

              • slimj091

                It’s not hard to find. Go to their website. You won’t have to worry about it being down because you will be the only visitor to ESO’s site today. So they will probably throw a party for you.

              • Paulo Gomes

                Psssst… Psssst…

                Hey!!!

                Yeah you, White Knight…

                You know, your armor is so tarnished, it’s not even white anymore…

                More like brown… You know, the color of SHIT…

                Like this “event”…

    • Shawn Hargrave

      ive been showing them for quite some time ive done it permanently.

      • Holyfrog

        And yet you still continue to come here and bitch. Great use of your life, because I’m sure this isn’t the only place you come to bitch about things you don’t like and don’t participate in.

        • Shawn Hargrave

          oh look its a fanboi sighting everyone!.Hey holywhiner as i have i told you i dont have to visit the site i have the messages texted to me what part of that do you not get for the 3rd time now? Btw as ive said for the 3rd time also this site isnt strictly star wars ya know. Hands holywhiner a q tip upset are we still? /smh

          • Holyfrog

            Yeah, the sign of a childish mind, you have to call people names. You have to come here and read the posts to know what people are talking about, Even so you are still here commenting. How is that not a waste of time? What does the fact that this site isn’t only SWTOR have to do with anything, why do you bother to look at anything or comment about a game you don’t give a fuck about? Why do you continue to bash a game you CAN’T play. You have been banned for exploiting there is no other explanation for your continuous venomous hate towards this game. You are a broken record. What a sad little man you are. Ok youre turn call me childish names and ignore the simple question that you always ignore.

            • Shawn Hargrave

              let me get this straight you start a fight with me insult me then grandstand about insults LOL. whats really sad is that you spend your time starting a fight over and over b/c you cant handle criticism or different views.

              there is no requirement that i have to play tor to post here. Show me where it says i have to play tor to post here?

              as for tor i never got banned lmao i dont know where you got this idea? but its a good laugh.

              id tell you a 4th time that i dont have to actually visit this site to post but you dont listen. unlike you i know how to use technology to my advantage its not my fault you waste your time logging in here to start a fight with me lolz.

              why do you bother raging and defending this nugget of dear turd that even 9 out 10 fanbois here have caught on to but not you eh?

              not going anywhere holywhiner rage on dude!

              • Holyfrog

                First of all, I didn’t start a fight with you. I made a comment about something you said, and like you are so fond of saying I can say whatever I want about whatever I want.

                Second, if you were insulted that is your own problem. It’s not like I called your mom a cow, I made an observation about how rediculous you are.

                Third, I never said you have to play, I mearly pointed out that you waste your time on a game you don’t give a fuck about, and how for the 20th time you ignore the question as to why.

                Fourth, in order for you to have made your first remark on this site about this event you have to have come here and read it. So you saying you don’t visit this site is an outright lie.

                Fifth, why do you bother raging about this game that you don’t play? Never mind you WONT answer that question.

                Say you weren’t banned all you want but your rage blinded hatred makes no sense any other way. Call me a fanboi all you want but you have not and will not see me defend stupid things like this “event” of even KotFE.

              • Shawn Hargrave

                Like i said dude rage on. Im not raging about the game its called an opinion.

                I post here b/c i can and i want to that fact that you cant handle it is YOUR problem that is my answer to why i post here im sorry its not the answer you want but its the answer your getting. What is it to you why i post huh? Your an obsessive nut job who did start a fight with me for a 4th time now over the same thing now.

                Yeah you can do everything over the phone like i said its not my fault your to busy raging at me over having a different opinion to set up your phone to do it. The messages get sent to my phone as do the new posts so yes i dont actually have to visit the site now for a 5th time god you are retarded.

              • Cipher Agent 69

                After some investigative research we were actually successful in finding a picture of this mysterious Holyfrog. Unsurprisingly it was taken within Musco’s own office!

              • Shawn Hargrave

                lol watchout hell make a fake account and rage at you next how dare you form an opinion of your own and post on a forum!

  • Dave Vincent’s Perm

    At least pvp is still well balanced

    • Whitedragon

      to many cheaters in pvp

      • RodoHermoza

        is about skill and gear

        • Whitedragon

          if you aint cheating you aint tryin

  • HarbingerZero

    Yes, but…when does the event end? I would think that would be pretty important basic information to be handing out, yes?

    • Whitedragon

      fall sometime, Nov i guess

      • HarbingerZero

        Well when they referenced it they kept calling it a “summer event” so that leaves the door open for some confusion I think. I hope its November, that would be better.

  • Kaelin

    I like the idea of the event itself, she have been don few years ago if you ask me. Too much grinding, but I`m ok with it. I still have things to do and empty space for at least 2 new characters. Will give it a try

    • Paulo Gomes

      Good for you. I mean that btw, no irony. If it tickles your fancy, knock yourself out.

      This “event” would have been PERFECT for 2012, and maybe it would have kept a lot of the population from leaving the game back then. Hell, I would be raving about it in 2012. Now? Not so much, to put it mildly.

      Problem is, it’s not 2012. It’s mid 2016. MMO’s have changed. Only grinding stuff to death to get rewards is not really acceptable in a modern (successful) MMO, and these people seem to forget that there are really good options out there in the MMO market. Using the Force and carrying a lightsaber will only get you so far…

      • Kaelin

        Well, you have a point and at some point I agree with you. But I`m still giving it a try %) And unlike lots others I have classes I never bothered to play before and now I have a reason.

        Its a shame people loves to be unhappy about that game. Even then we got new operations, even then we got new pvp map and options for open pvp world, even then subs got monthly rewards (they are not outstanding, but its a free given thing no one is obligated to give), and God forbid to give a try to a decent story in mmo

        • Guest

          This “event” has made me pretty salty. It is geared towards new players with nothing for those of us who have done all classes multiple times.

          • Kaelin

            I understand you, but I can talk for myself only 🙂 I still have things to do in game and with all my plans for the rest of the summer i`m not up for something hardcore

  • Guest

    Even the Dark vs Light packs are worthless. It’s all bind on pick up, you don’t get entire sets of armor. Let’s say I only have one slot available so I can start a character get to 50 and delegate as Musco suggested then I get Tulak Hords lower and supplementary gear to unlock it befor I delete my character I have to spend ridiculous amounts of in game money to get the upper set then spend real world money on CCs to unlock it so I can use it. They could at least make it bind to legacy. There is nothing good about this.

    • revan1337

      Yea its sucks. I hope they will change it otherwise it is not worth the “GRIND”.

    • Paradigm_Shift

      I have all but 2 of the armor sets unlocked in collections account wide. So the Dark vs Light Packs would be worthless for me. I wouldn’t even be able to sell them or give them away.

  • FacelessOne

    Well…

    • Andhros

      Mass Effect had green so this might be worse.

    • Ben Gimson

      That’s kind of unfair on the ME3 ending. ME3’s ending was only ‘really shit’.

  • Ben Fuller

    There seriously experience the all people to do all of that for the companion or can you pick and choice the ones you do once you get to the right levels

    • Paulo Gomes

      What you wrote makes absolutely no sense. I cannot say if I agree with you or not because I cannot make out what you tried to say…

      • Ben Fuller

        I ment are bioware seriously expecting us to complete every single one of these steps just for a companion. Or can we choose which parts after lvl 50 we want to do and just do the step that gives the companion

        • Paulo Gomes

          You “only” have to reach Eternal level to get the comp… COMP, not comps. You only get ONE, and you have no real control over which one you get: if Light Side wins overall you get Master Ramos, if Dark Side wins you will get Darth Hexid.

          • Лев Сафаров

            Damn, i dont like dark side. (:

          • Ben Fuller

            Thank Paulo gomes. I hope lights side wins then as that comp is better in my opinion other one just seems like akavvi with a lightsaber. We haven’t had a chiss companion yet

          • Shawn Hargrave

            i wish theyd give the comps back their uniqueness its so shitty how the comps are why you need to so many is pointless and no comp even valkorian is worth grinding toons like this lol

  • Shawn Hargrave

    its ea their cheapasses when you think light vs dark event whats the first thing you think of? most would say pvp but no its just grinding toons? lol

  • George V

    Can anyone get this clear for me:

    1. You need to play all 16 chapters of KOFTE to get Champion rank
    2. Chapter #16 is released in late July

    So 1+2 means you can’t become a Champion BEFORE chapter #16 in late of July, right?
    Then will the game indicate any progress if I work on completing the goals for Legend, SINCE I’M NOT EVEN CHAMPION by late July?

    • Whitedragon

      play all 8 characters

    • Leo

      It would be impossible do do all the achievements in order since legendary is what has all 8 class achievements in it and by that rank you already have 2 classes done, I would think of the ranks more like current meta achievements in game already. You can complete portions as you go but you can’t complete a higher rank before completing the current one.

    • Nick Emory

      All of the achievements are tracked via the legacy tab. So take for instance the flashpoint achievement: each one you complete will be marked off but the achievement will not be awarded until all are done. So in other words you can do half of them on one toon and the other half on a different toon, and once done will award the achievement. Each tier is independent of the other

  • Nemurytorul
    • Whitedragon

      Do you really think they’re gonna change anything now? this is pointless

      • Nemurytorul

        it worth to try no? if dont try then u never really know
        make a choice

        • Shawn Hargrave

          yeah its worth a shot but if you really want to make a point we need to get everyone to go f2p or unsub for least 3 month or permanently

          • Whitedragon

            everybody who post here are already f2p

            • Shawn Hargrave

              lol could be

            • Nemurytorul

              im not F2P !! im subs from day 1

              • Whitedragon

                you’re a Sub? KAIOOOO-KENNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!

            • Paulo Gomes

              I was subbed since launch until the end of December 2015, because that was the date in which the game completed 1 year without a new Op.

              As you may know, we raiders were promised that THERE WOULD NEVER AGAIN BE A ONE YEAR INTERVAL BETWEEN OPS!!! Oh yes, that old beef, rant, whine, call it what you may.

              I recently subbed just to get Vette, because I love that comp. But no, I’m not subbed BECAUSE I CHOOSE NOT TO. KotFE is not worth a sub, and people saying it’s an inexpensive way to get an expansion should think twice about that. It’s not. A monthly sub to run around, watch cutscenes and kill a few mobs is not want I want.

              And I was HERE, in this very Forum saying that months ago. I was called an elitist, a minority, a dying breed. Well, that’s ok. I gave them the chance to prove me wrong, I kept playing to see where all this was coming to.

              Going to search for a reservation where MMO companies take care of races that are a dying breed my friend… You can all keep your precious EA moneygrab of a game.

            • coi

              And that is why BW doesn’t give a crap what you same old whingers say. Yeah, event isn’t great for folks who’ve completed all content. Most keen/addicted players will level one toon to 50. This is aimed at new subs.

              • Whitedragon

                you’re smart Fredo

    • Guest

      I don’t like that everyone doesn’t have an arbiters saber, I’m going to start a portion to give one to everyone.

      • Ben Gimson

        Not even remotely similar. But you know that.

    • slimj091

      99 supporters. LOL.. hang on to your butts I think CNN will be calling you soon for a statement.

  • Kaelin

    If a game have things I really dislike about it (MMO or not), I stop wasting my time on that game, means not playing it anymore, not visiting forums/sites about that game…. you got the point, right?

  • Shawn Hargrave

    you can play swgemu its a 100 times better then tor and its open world and you can actually play a space game free roaming unlike this sorry pos

  • Kyrri

    I’m guessing the dual wielding Chiss is Master Ranos? Pls let LS continue to dominate xD The statistics they pulled a couple weeks ago shows LS is more popular. Hope it stays that way o/.

    And before anyone asks it’s here
    http://dulfy.net/2016/06/03/swtor-june-producers-livestream-coverage/
    “We looked at past 6 months of play history and light side choices dominated (59% vs 41%).”

    • AdjeYo

      Finally Chiss companion on the way :3

    • Demios

      NOOOOOOO! The dark shall not loose. The darkness shall consume you all.

    • Leo

      I completely agree chiss sentinel > zabrak assassin

    • Darth Ji’inx

      Sadly, the LS companion looks better :/

      I really hope these are just early versions of the companions, and that they will be updated so they don’t look like players with CM gear or older endgame PvE gear.

  • Rainer Prauer

    Realy ?This ” Event ” looks like play the whole Game over again only to get some new Titles and some fluff . Not sure how long i can take this crap from BW . I loved this game but over the last year i find i’m playing it less and less each month . It seems the BW strategy is get new players keep them entertained for a year and then rinse and repeat the same crap over again .
    BW

  • Paulo Gomes

    And now for something completely different: PORTUGAL WINS!!!! YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHH!!!

  • The rage is real lads. Read Community forums =)

    • Whitedragon

      Why do you think they released this 4 days before launch? they new it would blow-up

    • Shawn Hargrave

      lol 151 pages now

      • slimj091

        most of it replies by the same handful of entitled children that are mad that they will have to do something to get something.

        • Paulo Gomes

          No, you don’t get that card to play sonny. You see, I’ve done it all already. SEVERAL TIMES. I don’t want rewards hot shot, I WANT SOMETHING NEW I CAN PLAY. I don’t care about the rewards, I want to USE MY ENDGAME TOONS Einstein… Get THAT into your thick skull!

          • Demios

            Good to you sonny, that’s right you fight for your belief and prove him wrong.

        • Shawn Hargrave

          nice spin you work for tmz? lol as opposed to doing something theyve done 5 times or more for a new comp? yeah what a laugh i dont think so

  • ghostbeetle

    Am I reading this wrong or can I basically get the new comp by simply leveling ONE new chara (either light or dark) to level 65 and complete ‘Eternal’ level? And then just not give a shit about attaining whoop-dee-doo ‘Legend’ level and all that crap about leveling EIGHT new toons?
    That’s not really a hardship, is it?
    And can anybody confirm whether the choice of companion in the end is based on the overall light vs dark balance in the entire game (meaning we all get the same fucking comp, no matter where we stood on the light vs dark scale) or is it determined on an individual basis (meaning those charas who were played light get Ranos and those that played dark get Hexis)?

    • Paulo Gomes

      We… I mean, YOU all get the same fucking comp, regardless of individual status.

      • ghostbeetle

        Ah. shit. Can you tell me where it says that. I’ve been looking for a clear explanation.

        • Darth Ji’inx

          From the rewards article/blog post:

          “Darth Hexid and Master Ranos
          These two new Companions are embedded into the core of the Dark vs. Light event. As event characters are making dark and light decisions, they are tilting the scales towards Hexis or Ranos – ultimately determining which Companion players can earn at the conclusion of the event.”

          • ghostbeetle

            Yes. But the wording there seems a little ambiguous.
            “As event characters are making dark and light decisions, they are
            tilting the scales towards Hexis or Ranos – ultimately determining which
            Companion players can earn at the conclusion of the event.”
            it doesn’t go into the exact modus. “players” could mean ‘all players’, or ‘individual players’, couldn’t it?

            • Darth Ji’inx

              I believe their last livestream said that the overall total of light or dark determines which companion everyone gets. You can watch the video on Dulfy’s “SWTOR June Producer’s Livestream Coverage” article. This event is discussed around 17:40-22:00.

              • ghostbeetle

                Ah, OK! I’ll take a look, mebee that’ll clear it up. THX!

              • Darth Ji’inx

                At 19:00-19:15, they answer your question.

      • Shawn Hargrave

        and the comp is no different from the other 200 pokemon that are already in the game

    • Darth Ji’inx

      For the Eternal Level, you have to level TWO characters (1 per faction) to 65 and defeat Supreme Vindicator Lanos in the Eternal Championship on one character. What this means is that you can do the Valor Rank 5, Strongholds Intro Mission, defeat Lanos, SoR, KotFE, and most of the flashpoints on one character. The opposite faction character only needs to get to 65 and do the 3 faction specific flashpoints (Black Talon or Esseles & Boarding Party/Taral V and Foundry/Maelstrom Prison). It’s doable, nowhere near as bad as the Legendary Level.

      • ghostbeetle

        Yeah, that’s approximately how I read it, too. But damn, I overlooked the Valor thing. Not a fan of PvP, never done it before.

        • Darth Ji’inx

          Nor have I. I made a thread about Valor Rank 5 on the forums. I was told that Valor Rank 5 could probably be done in 2 warzones, and deaths in PvP don’t have repair costs. That actually sounds manageable…hopefully…

          • ghostbeetle

            Well, it sounds like a character building experience!;)
            “Don’t knock it if you don’t know it!” etc. …
            We’ll see!

            • Darth Ji’inx

              I, too, am aiming for the Eternal Level tier. The only things that are required that I’ve never done before are PvP, most of those flashpoints on level, and solo Lanos.

              • ghostbeetle

                Huh! That’s pretty much exactly my own list!
                Maybe we’re long lost force-twins, or something! 😉
                Well, brother (sister?), I wish you the best of luck! ^^

                BTW, you were right. On the livestream they did basically say there would be only one companion, the same companion for everybody. Which is either a waste of the design work on the other companion or an indication that they didn’t really invest a lot of effort into either of them. You be the judge!

              • Darth Ji’inx

                (Ji’inx is a male Sith Pureblood Sith Sorcerer on the Ebon Hawk)

                Here’s my opinion on the companions, as I’ve stated many comments down:

                “Sadly, the LS companion looks better :/

                I really hope these are just early versions of the companions, and that they will be updated so they don’t look like players with recent CM gear or older endgame PvE gear.”

              • ghostbeetle

                Personally, I like the idea of another dual wielder comp, but I’d rather just have Ashara back, finally, instead of having to wait till ‘next season’, whenever the hell that will be!

              • Darth Ji’inx

                I just hope she’s not a Zakuul Knight when she comes back O.O
                (At the beginning of KotFE, a romanced Ashara’s message to the Inquisitor says she is leaving the Jedi and Sith.)

              • Paulo Gomes

                Ashara is one of my least favourite chars, romancing that self-righteous semi-Jedi was the WORST companion experience I ever had. She doesn’t like anything! She sounded a lot like my wife… loooooooooooool!!!

                (Hope she doesn’t read this, or I’m sleeping outside from now on…) 🙂

              • Darth Ji’inx

                O.O

                I found her pride and claims of still being a Jedi annoying, but she’s still my favorite romance companion. I just wish I could mold her more in Jaesa’s image (without being a complete psychopath).

              • Paulo Gomes

                Well, that’s the beauty of this type of game, isn’t it? The freedom to like different things… As long as you have that option…

              • ghostbeetle

                Yeah, she is fairly rigid, but I just love to watch her go to work with two lightsabers! When I’m wielding them myself, I can never really enjoy it nearly as much as when I’m watching somebody else. Must be a perspective thing.
                Of course, with the new companion system her moves are pretty much the same as every other companion’s moves. Sigh. There’s got to be a better way of running these things!

              • ghostbeetle

                Damn. That really does sound like a possibility!
                But judging by the last few chapters and the rather slim opportunities to interact with old companions, that we’ve seen so far, it’s probably not really going to matter very much either way, how our various still missing companions come back. Sadly.

              • Darth Ji’inx

                I’ve actually gotten more attached to using Xalek as my primary since KotFE. (I got her back from the terminal, but I won’t use her until she comes back in KotFE. Same with Khem.)

              • Paulo Gomes

                Yeah, I don’t like using the terminal, it feels… Wrong, somehow…

              • ghostbeetle

                It’s like reverse necromancy! You’re commiting an unnatural act to bring back the lost souls but they turn out wrong – only it’s because they HAVEN’T changed where they should have (after 5 years without you!).

          • Paulo Gomes

            Oh man, if you think the people here are toxic… You are going to have a BLAST doing pvp… looool… Just sayin’…

            • Darth Ji’inx

              I already know that. Fortunately, it’s only a few warzones, and back to PvE 🙂

              • Paulo Gomes

                I can’t stand pvp. But I think it’s really hard, those guys are great players…

              • Shawn Hargrave

                the problem with pvp is its instanced to hell god i hated warzones ilum was the shit back at launch but the engine couldnt handle it sadly. the other issue is the sorcs/inqs what a joke of a class made for scrubs players lol wht an idea hey lets make a class based on the emperor /smh

          • Risqu’e

            Dont the warzone xp boosts increase the amount of valor you get per warzone? Might make it less painful for those that dont usually pvp…

            • Darth Ji’inx

              2-3 matches shouldn’t be that bad (hopefully). Also, I don’t want to pay CC or the ridiculous GTN prices.

            • The XP boosts only boost XP gained from matches. There are seperate valor boosts to increase valor gained, but really valor 5 is literaly 2-3 matches without a boost, less than an hour of play. With a 25% boost it’s still 2 matches, so I’d just skip the boost.

          • Valor 5 needs 4600 valor points, and you get about 2000-3000 per match depending on how well it went, so it’ll be very quick.
            You’ll probably have the most fun if you do them before level 65. At lower levels gear doesn’t matter at all (everything is bolstered) and there are far fewer pro’s around to steamroller you.

        • DarkSaber LP

          you will not have to play more than 4 warzones

          • ghostbeetle

            Ah, thanks! Wish there was somebody doing a ‘kiddie group’ thing for PVP so wannabes like me can get their toes wet without riling up all those hardcore PvPers. A guided tour or something… “OK, now that you’ve all paired up pick up your weapon of choice and start gently clubbing your partner to death! Very good, Darth Hufflepuff! That’s the ticket, Luuke skwlkr!”

  • Ponku

    Anyone knows why they pulled the link to the event off from launcher?

  • Demios

    “I have 20+ plus level 65’s I shouldn’t have to do this!”

    “I’m going to participate finally have an excuse to play classes I haven’t touched.”

    Having heard both sides of this argument I find myself laughing. Long time players are pissed because they have maxed out characters and “feel” like they shouldn’t “have” to make a new one to do the event. New players reap all the rewards which are tempting enough that I’m gonna make new toons to participate. I get where everyone is coming from but seriously all this rage and it could have been so much worse. Last year we got 12x xp, and while I did see people complain about no new content I didn’t see nearly as much as this and you didn’t even get a reward for 12x xp except for leveling really fast.

    Stay sub or don’t, support this game or bash it, it doesn’t really matter. This event will pop off on Tuesday and I will still see a pack fleet, probably a whole lot of rage in chat which will make me laugh but this is going to happen. Yeah voicing your complaints is good and not doing anything doesn’t accomplish anything, but when you know that your voice is just going to be thrown out window, just shut up either login or go play something else.

    • Shawn Hargrave

      in other words be a lemming/fanboi yeah no thanks. it looks like most are going to eso for the time bieng

      • slimj091

        I think most psychologists would call that wishful thinking. No one wants to play ESO.. not even people who play ESO.

        • Shawn Hargrave

          i think most psychologists would say your in denial lol

          • Stating The Obvious

            Oh Oh, seems the alert was given…

            • Shawn Hargrave

              lmao good one

        • Paulo Gomes

          Ignorance is bliss, right?

    • Paulo Gomes

      Well, if everything is cool for you… I have another suggestion: why don’t YOU shut up? What does this have to do with 12x? If all this just makes you laugh, GOOD. Laugh your way outta here, log into the game and laugh at everyone. You say nothing worthwhile, and I wish I could be intellectually devoided of intelligence to laugh at you… But I really can’t sink to that level. I’m not THAT self-centered…

      • Demios

        So you get your rocks off then by trying to make people see things from your point of view instead of accepting that people have different opinions? At least I bother to look at from both sides, I recognize that this is a bad event but it’s what we got. And as far as 12x it’s exactly like what they did before KotFE came out. Only instead of play for rewards it was subscribe on this date for this reward.

        • Paulo Gomes

          Well, I could just ignore you from now on, seeing as you don’t really have a grasp on the situation… But I’ll indulge you:

          12x has NOTHING to do with this! First, it was never advertised as a new “thing”, it was just something that gave you different rewards; second, YOU DIDN’T HAVE TO USE IT SMARTBRAINS!!! You could level with normal xp if you wanted to. So, in fact, you are wrong on BOTH accounts…

          • Demios

            Yeah and you DON’T have to do this event. And 12x xp wasn’t a new “thing” they had used it for when Shadow of Revan was going to launch. Thanks for once again proving your point.

            • Paulo Gomes

              No, thank YOU for proving MY point! That’s EXACTLY what I said. Comparing this “event” to 12x is asinine at best mate… Choose another one, that one won’t work…

              Furthermore, When I defended that BW should NOT abandon Ops just because the majority of people wanted more story content i was a minority, so I was wrong… Well now the tables have turned, I am in the majority… Suddenly I have to accept people have different points of view??? Gimme a break…

              • Demios

                You my friend have put a smile on my face. Reading your responses, watching you go around and around in a circle has been most entertaining. Much like you my voice has been heard only instead of harassing those that absolutely hate this, I pick at those like you. Au Revoir.

              • Paulo Gomes

                Don’t slam the door on your way out, my children are already sleeping.

              • Demios

                *SLAM*

              • Paulo Gomes

                Lol…

          • Gemma

            I agree with Deimos. The fact of the matter is that you’re running your mouth on this site, trying to dissuade people from playing the event. You have a right to your opinion, but constantly forcing it on to others is just obnoxious. Let people make up their own minds, and play the event. And you don’t have to play the event, it’s not mandatory.

            • Paulo Gomes

              No, I’m not trying to dissuade other people from playing the event. I defy you to find a post of mine where I say people shouldn’t play it. In fact, there’s a couple of posts where I ENCOURAGE people to play it, if they feel like it.

              What I AM doing is not letting people who have a different opinion from mine to tell me to shut up, like Deimos did. Yep, that I AM doing. I will vent my dissatisfaction in this site for as long as I may damned well please. If you don’t like it, block me. I don’t care.

      • Ponku

        So hundreds of people complaining and talking all the same shit is ok, but someone saying opinion that differs from yours, should “shut up” ? Are you for real or just trolling?
        Most of the kids complaining about the vent say nothing worthwile, they pretend that they know everything about the game and think that their opinion is one and only true one. I raelly can’t think of something more self centered than behaving that way AND bashing someone that voice different opinion.

        • Shawn Hargrave

          try explaining this to holyfrog lol. thats a 2 way street considering they both told each other to leave just fyi cant have it both ways

        • Paulo Gomes

          Where were the people that respect different opinions when I was bashed, ridiculed, ignored when I said that BW should not abandon Ops? Where was everybody’s respect for MY opinion? I was a fossil, a dying breed, I represented less than 2% of the glorious people that play this game, I should shut up or play a different game…

          WHERE WERE YOU?

          No, really, where were YOU and your RESPECT FOR MY OPINION???

          Well, here’s right back at you buddy…

          • Ponku

            Yep, because aparently i need to be everywhere and visit every forum about every game i ever played all the time.
            Where was i? Somewhere else. I don’t know who you are and never heard of you before.

            If you didn’t liked how people treated you, now your response is to treat others the same way? That is ridiculous and petty. Those aren’t even the same people so it could be called “revenge” or sth. You are just perpetruating the bad behaviour for your selfish selfesteem by behaving like that.

            • Paulo Gomes

              Yep… That sounds about right to me, “revenge”… I always liked Empire side better…

        • Demios

          So complaining to a company that won’t change how it does thing no matter how many do so, does what? I don’t claim to know everything, I know what I care to know. And what I know is that if nothing is being done about your complaint what’s the point, you’re just wasting your breath. I don’t care whether or not people read or accept my post, I know how people are. So yes I am self centered but is anyone here putting all caps and throwing “Bio fanboy” around any better than me not giving a shit about others ideas on this and laughing it?

          • Paulo Gomes

            Oh… I thought you left… Welcome back… The repair bill for the door is in the mail…

            • Shawn Hargrave

              welcome to my world dude lolz. people like that are why tor is still running mindless lemmings /smh

          • Ponku

            Lol. I was refering to Paulo Gomes’s respond to your post, not to you 🙂

            • Paulo Gomes

              OMG… Please fanboys, get your act together there… loooooooool…

            • Demios

              Oh my bad scrolling through all this just to find my post. I apologize.

    • The Watchmen

      When 12x hit, I didn’t have all 16 character types you could have. In fact, I brought up 6 characters before the 12x ended. I had to stuff do then. Now, the only thing I haven’t done any Nightmare Ops in their current form nor finish the E-Championship on everyone.

      I just can’t get over the “Restart the game” concept of the game. There is no reason to move servers and make new characters. If I wanted that, I would pay to move my fully geared and cash-loaded toons over.

      The only thing I can think of is doing a few classes as females, but the romance aspects make that too awkward for me. I did that on an Agent and Consular, and it was just weird.

      So, for me, there is not a point for the event. The companions are the only thing I want, and I dont even want unless they are Legacy-wide accessible. Maybe I’ll get into it, but WoW’s Legion or STO’s new Xpac seems like a better use of my time this Summer.

  • Glitterhoof

    “Plus, the outcome of players’ choices will impact the state of the galaxy this fall.”

    Are they going to make stuff canon? Or what do they mean

    • Paulo Gomes

      They mean that the outcome of the Light-Dark side fight will determine which companion players that play the “event” will get…

  • Luke

    “you must have a character of at least level 60 and had an active subscription as of October 27th, 2016 ” Surely it’s meant to be 2015?

    • DarkSaber LP

      No, they mean the end of the event which is October 27th. If you sub after the event ends it won’t work so the date is correct

  • Darth-Robin

    oh mememaster, mememaster where are thou mememaster
    memmaster thou are my only hope!

    • Layer

      Don’t. Encourage. Him.

      • Paulo Gomes

        Oh come on… I like him…

    • It’s boring now

      The mememaster is far more entertaining than SWTOR is. Yeah, where is he?

      • Paulo Gomes

        Are you kidding? Dulfy is a lot more entertaining than TOR, I just hope Dulfy herself doesn’t start charging for a sub…

        • GiftoftheMagi

          Here’s a scary thought…..Eric gets fired and is replaced by Dulfy.

  • Shawn Hargrave

    where is eric musucko we need his input here on the event and info since so many are confused

    • Whitedragon

      it’s clear where Musco is

      • Shawn Hargrave

        no not musco musucko eric musucko its an impersonator and dam good lol

        • Paulo Gomes

          Yeah, where’s Mucoso??? We NEED him here, he’s great…

          • Jonathan Doe

            You guys realize that it’s because of people like you and your irrational fixation with Musco or the other few that happen to host one event or another, that there is barely any interaction between dev teams an playerbases?

            The guy is just a PR person he doesn’t make any decisions, doesn’t write stories, doesn’t code, he had zero input in the creation of this event, or anything you dislike about this game.

            Most people manage to voice their dissatisfaction without resorting to insult or even worse behaviour, but trust me, they will use the few people who can’t help but insult the PR guy, to justify their lack of communication.

            • Paulo Gomes

              Do YOU realize I am NOT asking for Eric Musco, but for the guy that posts here on Dulfy as a funny impersonator??? I could care less for Musco. I fact atm in time, I couldn’t care less for the whole of Bioware in Austin, Texas.

              I just want some comic relief.

  • R315r4z0r

    Lost me at “create new character.”

  • The Watchmen

    Go post on the actual SWTOR forums people. Bioware given zero fucks either way, but at least they might read your thoughts there. Here is just a place to bitch and get your shit straight before going there imo

    • It’s boring now

      Because you have to be a subscriber to post on the official forum. The unsubbed smart people post here.

      • Shawn Hargrave

        lol he didnt think that through to well hehe

        • kappastein

          I swear, your name is synonymous with bitching around these parts… that’s what you seem to do around here instead of doing something productive with your life…

          • Don Loco

            Odd how you know all that he does with his life besides the few moments it takes to make a comment here. 0_o

          • Shawn Hargrave

            yaaaaawn sounds like another holyfrog whiner account. Sounds like your life is just as productive sitting here bitching about my opinion. Why waste your life responding? /smh

            You dont like my posts tough shit deal with it hypocrite

          • Tip: Disqus added the option to block users recently. I’ve blocked a whole three users so far, and my Dulfy pages are an oasis of peace now compared to before.

  • Zak

    So they mention “End of event” a time or two. When exactly is that?

    • Likely fall but no one knows yet

      • Zak

        thanks man.

      • Лев Сафаров
      • Nomad

        I have a great admiration for you as a gamer and website administrator. I understand you’re neutrality on most subjects as well, but can you give a personal take on this event?

        • I dislike it. They could have done a better job at communicating this event. It is tedious, grindy and serve just to hold people over until season 2.

          • Nomad

            agreed…and thanks

          • Shawn Hargrave

            it was anounced poorly as well look how many people are confused about what the event is. They should have at least made it retroactive for 1 toon or 1 account for vets/subs. I knew they were gonna pull something like this though pretty sad

            • Лев Сафаров

              Yea, like, hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

              • Paulo Gomes

                More like: hope for the best… prepare for Bioware!!! looooooool…

          • guest

            I knew when they announced we’d hear something 3 or 4 days before the event started in the last livestream that it was going to be something that would piss alot of people off.

            The lack of info was on purpose. That is their MO when they knowingly release something that is going to be controversial. Radio Silence until it is too late to make any changes, so they can use that as an excuse.

            I think if they just changed 3 things they could salvage it and people might actually like it..
            1. Get rid of the 8 level 50’s req. Its ridiculous to expect the average player to have the time to level 2 new toons a month, let alone on top of all the other dark v grind stuff and their regular activities..
            2. Nerf the Flashpoint requirements they are way out of line with the other endgame achievements when it comes to time investment and clearing content. 10 SM and 5 HM should be more than sufficient. Instead they are requiring 24 SM and 26 HM FP’s. HM FP’s are going to be an absolute clusterfuck with everyone’s ungeared new toons chasing cheevos.

            3. Redo the crew skill achievements to require 2 crafting, 2 mission, and 2 gathering. Brings it back in line with requiring 2 toons, one imp and one pub through all content.

          • Darth-Robin

            yeah i thought you would dislike this one dulfy
            it is a tedious grind though its only legendary tier.
            but still all hardmodes and crafting skills….its a bit much i can do 8 chars to 50 thats no problem but all hardmodes space that

      • DarkSaber LP

        didn’t the website say October 27th?

      • King of America

        It says “later this fall” on the blog:

        http://www.swtor.com/blog/dark-vs.-light-event-and-rewards-blog

        “any reward that is noted with * you will receive at the end of the event later this fall”.

  • Seph

    The last time I remember a post on Dulfy getting this many comments was when BW botched the handling of the Ravagers exploit. This “event” has clearly pissed the community off.

  • Mer Vila

    In order to get the rewards, one has to be subbed, right?

    • Darth Ji’inx

      Not all of the rewards. The first two levels don’t require any sub content like KotFE. As a free player, you could still do the first two levels and you would get 15 Packs for that character, 3 pieces of legacy bound armor that give an extra 25% XP, 2 legacy titles, and a pet that would be mailed to all your characters after the event.

      • Mer Vila

        Thanks a lot for the info <3

  • Unsubbed.

    Please answer, this determines if I even bother with this or remain unsubbed until post KotFE:
    -If I earn the eternal level, is the dark or light companion earned available for all of my characters, or just the character completing eternal?
    -Can I do the eternal level twice / both ways to unlock both characters if the companions are account wide?

    Thank you, keep up the great coverage.

    • Fred

      I can’t answer whether other characters can pick up the companion, but I can say they you can’t have both companions, the way it works is they record all of the light/dark choices made during the event and that will decide which companion you and everyone else gets.

      So if the community makes mostly light choices you’ll be awarded the Jedi or vice versa and get the Sith. This means you could do it on a character making light choices for the Jedi and then at the end if everyone else chose dark you still get the Sith.

    • Darth Ji’inx

      Musco:

      “End of event Cosmetic Rewards – Things like the Companion and the vehicles will come at the end of the event and will be delivered to every character on the account, similar to the monthly sub rewards.”

      • Paulo Gomes

        A mailed companion… Another Nico Okarr then… Figures, no small quest to get him/her, no accompanying story, no nothing… Another one to join the faceless 20 plus we already have… Sad, really sad…

        • Darth Ji’inx

          We currently don’t know if there will be a recruitment mission or not. The mail item could be a token that grants the mission like with Treek, or just straight up grants the companion like with Nico.

          • Paulo Gomes

            True. Let’s hope there is one, it would make it a lot more enticing… For those of you that ARE getting the comp that is… lol…

    • Resubbed, for better or worse.

      Thank you very much for your replies. I have opted to resub. Good luck on the grind-repeat, all!

      I hope that the community opts out of the LS/DS bullshit and goes neutral like I have on most of my characters since the beginning, though. I will participate, and I will probably have fun, but I still think that BioWare’s cliché RvB binary associated with virtually all of their games is as meaningless as ever.

  • Patrick Cross

    What I’m curious about is if I’m only interested in the Companion can I just do the level imp/rep to 65 and round 5 of the eternal championship or do I have to actually progress with the Flashpoints, etc… before that one?

    • Darth Ji’inx

      You have to do the previous ones; they’re tiers.

      • King of America

        that makes sense, but I honestly can’t see where it actually says it anywhere…

        • jaydog

          From what it looks like (unless it comes out to specifically states it) you can basically CHOOSE which one you can do..

          Certain ones you will get by default if you go through the story line

          Ex. Heroic one, you literally only have to level a character to level 25.

          Since all you need to do is unlock 2 65 and beat level 5 of Eternal empire, then you have to have atleast one character go through KOTFE..

          You could ofcourse, skip Revan story line (as SOR is not a pre req for KOTFE), however you will just have to compensate the XP somewhere else.

          • King of America

            Darth Ji’inx pointed out that Eric had said otherwise on Twitter:

            https://twitter.com/musco/status/746014788430467073

            • King of America

              which is a pain, as the Champion tier looks like way more work than Eternal.

            • jaydog

              Heya, sorry for the late reply. I stand corrected…though it does seem odd.

              Because what if you reach level 65 without finishing some of those missions? (i.e level only by warzone/FP, and not do the Revan/kotfe missions)….that implies you would not get the 65 X Icon for the other tier. Which goes against what the achievement states for getting it….heh. Guess we will see tomorrow lol

      • King of America

        OK, I’ve read everything they’ve written or posted about this, and unless I’ve missed something it doesn’t say that anywhere. I suspect you’re right, but someone should query this.

  • Burritos

    The petition to change the new event to retroactive.161/200 supporters till now.Sign in.
    https://www.change.org/p/bioware-austin-bioware-please-make-light-vs-dark-event-retroactive-as-possible-until-its-too-late

    • Gildor

      Why they would do that? it would defeat the entire purpose of the event if half player base (including me) get all tiers rewards in the first ten seconds of it. You don’t like it, noone is forcing you to do it.
      Remind me of conquest when half my guild left because they weren’t to grind ‘old crap’ again and my GM set himself to made my guild one of the world first with the tittle ‘The Galaxy Conqueror’ (something we achieve)

      • Paulo Gomes

        I agree. I am COMPLETELY against this retroactivity idea, it makes no sense. I would be finished before I even got started.

        Which is why I think this “event” is such a bad idea. Why, oh why not make an event that EVERYBODY could do and get some enjoyment of?

        Why piss off a part of your playerbase, small as it may be?

        I’m not against the grind. But this is an epic grind, this is not “do something to get rewards”… This is “do it ALL to get some rewards”…

        Speaking of which… I don’t care about the rewards. I have stuff that is better than most of the rewards in Collections, at the click of my mouse I can get as many copies of it as I want. I have stuff that recent players have never even heard of.

        But the worst part of this event, for me, is that all my Legacy gets to have a vacation for the Summer! Yes, those 24 toons I meticulously leveled and geared are going to LIMBO for the duration of the event. Jesus Christ, who thought this was going to be a good idea?

        I write this to you because you’ve seen first hand what these people at BW are doing. You have seen half your guild leave the game! I ask you: is that a positive thing for the game? How many blunders is this game going to endure until it becomes another desert for EA to cancel?

        • RandomFan

          Point for point my sentiments exactly. You hit the nail on the head.

          • Paulo Gomes

            Thank you mate. I think there’s a few of us feeling the same way out there…

        • JRP

          Yeah, it might have been a better idea to have had this event [or something similar] within the first couple of years, to bring players into the game.

          Still, then again, not everyone rushed their characters to max level. Although, not being able to use your existing characters is a bit frustrating.

          Now, if they were adding in a new species (or two) to play as — such as Nautolan and Pantoran [they were a part of the Republic before even the time of the Clone Wars] —- to add in more species to select from, perhaps a lot of players might enjoy creating a brand new character [or more].

  • FacelessOne

    Truth..

    • Лев Сафаров

      There was guy with this name, he said game dying. Not that i agree, that was what he said.

      • Paulo Gomes

        Want to check the REAL state of the game? Here, take a look at this:

        http://www.torstatus.net/

        Nevermind the hype about how well or how bad the game is doing, if you go there you’ll see everything you need to know…

        • Лев Сафаров

          Hey, i just didnt want to start aggressive discussion and definitely start fight with you. )

          • Paulo Gomes

            Nooooo… No, no fight! I was just trying to tell you: in that site you can see the game activity by server, no matter what other people say…

            • Лев Сафаров

              Yea, i think i understand.

        • GiftoftheMagi

          How do I read this…

          • Paulo Gomes

            Click “North America” or “Europe”, after that you get a smaller panel on the left side. There you can sort by name or population. In that same smaller left panel you can click on which server you want, preferably I would think the one(s) you play on.

            Servers barely break “Standard” these days, I remember when KotFE came out we had “Heavy” or “Very Heavy” population. On some days I got to see “Full”…

            • GiftoftheMagi

              Crap, so we have LOST people since the beginning of the month? Or does this only read active characters and/or accounts in play on that server?

  • gorilag

    Hi i have 2 questions. First one is. To achieve Alliance Hero do i need to hit all class character to lvl 50 after beginning of event or if i already have all class character at lvl 50 and i will make new Dark vs. Light character i will get this ? And second one do i need to hit dark and light lvl 5 on same character or on different one. Thanks for answer

    • Darth-Robin

      any excisting chars you currently have wont count, need to make 8 new ones once this event has started, only 2 need to be lvl 65 1imp 1 rep, so you can go for 1 imp lightside 5 and 1 rep darkside 5 for example.

    • King of America

      1. I would think that it’s 8 new characters, but it doesn’t actually say that, does it?
      2. different characters in the same Legacy should work.

    • King of America

      My mistake, it does actually say you have to reach 50 with a new character. However, you can apparently delete them immediately after getting the individual class achievement (so you don’t need to use 8 slots). What isn’t clear to me is if the crafting requirements work in a similar way.

  • Andrew Davis

    Did I read that server transfers were going back to 60 CC for a limited time again, or am I going crazy?

  • Orange Man

    yawn…so…after all this time and all the characters played they’re like “hey how about you go through that boring ordeal of leveling up a new character again? Wouldn’t that be a great way to waste your summer?”…they forget they actually made it possible for ppl to immediately play end game at level 60 just cause no one was interested of making new characters. As for the rewards all we have to do is wait and they will put them in the cartel market sooner or later. I remember how happy those devs were when they were announcing this…”The merciless Darth Hexid Companion or the courageous Master Ranos Companion ” …ok…why are these supposed to be so awesome? ….was the community of this game reduced to five year olds only? cause I cant think of anyone older biting the bait. Who are they trying to convince that getting more companions is awesome? they will probably not have any real story at all and since all companions can perform all roles now its only a matter of aesthetics….sorry guys I just don’t get it. the rewards are not worth the grind. the bikinis on the beach seem much more worthwhile. see you in September…

  • ghostbeetle

    So, have we had any attempts at damage control, or spin doctoring yet from the devs? I don’t really follow the official forums.

    • Wyrmidon

      Not during the weekend. IF they bother to comment at all on the situation, it will be on Monday at the earliest.

      • ghostbeetle

        Gotcha! Makes Sense!

  • DrewtheWanderer

    Personally this new event is insulting to veteran players and a huge pile of crap.

    • Raiffynn

      that’s the prob, you are taking it personal; its not personal, its a game. Also ive been playing since beta and I don’t see a problem with the event. First, its not mandatory and Second, it has dif level of reward tiers so you can stop anytime you want to and still get some goodies from it.

  • worst ideas they could have come up with I wanted the comp but no way I’m doing all that its so tedious have to go over stuff I’ve done loads in the past i’ll wait till they sell the comps on cc

    • Kubrickian

      So the other twenty plus companions you accumulate from Star Fortress missions aren’t really doing it for ya?

      • Shawn Hargrave

        i dont get the obsession with having so many comps myself especially since there all the same now. maybe its collectors have to have them all or something not sure

      • Paulo Gomes

        Completionists like to have the full package of these things… I know, I am one! And that makes me even more pissed off at this “event”…

      • I only did them on my 2 mains and well its only the chiss I wanted tbf as it would be the only chiss so far but you are right I could live without it

      • Darth-Robin

        its only 6 fromt the star fortresses, the rest comes from alliance alerts but dont really care when they are all the same anyway

    • Raiffynn

      to get the comp all you have to do is get to Eternal level…. that’s only creating 2 new toons and doing stuff you do daily anyways.

      • I don’t do flashpoints anymore I got sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo board of them…

  • Whitedragon

    I’m trying to think of a theme for this event, I wanted to go with star trek, but people will already have those names. (like kirk or spock etc) any ideas?

    • Nomad

      Buffy The Vampire Slayer?

      • Whitedragon

        you already took this. lol

        • Лев Сафаров

          Create names with 2 words in it, try to use yours existing chars name + different last name.

          • Whitedragon

            but whats the theme?

    • King of America

      Beer.

      If you called your legacy “Lager” or something similar, you can end up with a character called Darth Low Alcohol Lager, the most despised man in the galaxy.

      • Whitedragon

        not a bad idea, hmm maybe go with all beer names..

    • Darth-Robin

      why not battlestar galactica ? or starcraft:P

      • Whitedragon

        Hmm …good choices

        • Andhros

          Elder Scrolls could be funny since several posters are thinking about switching to ESO

    • Andhros

      The red vs blue theme and the timing of the event running from June to November. The people we are voting for have orange skin or blue blood and a small percent of the population having an outsized influence on the outcome it reminds me of this years US presidential election.

      Therefore I will be using bastardized spellings of the current and former candidates as well as the numerous nicknames pundits have given them.

      • Whitedragon

        excellent!

  • Darth-Robin

    that moment when you realise this is the second article that dulfy has on her website that broke the 1k comments cheers for us ^^ 😛

    • Paulo Gomes

      Yeah, congratz Dulfy… Hey look on the bright side:

      -The game may be lame, but this Forum is alive and kicking;

      -After this, there’s NOTHING left for BW to rehash, except macrobinocular and seeker droid missions. They couldn’t possibly rehash any other part of the game AGAIN, could they???

      • Darth-Robin

        they could rehash the daily areas like section x and blackhole.:P oh wait they are already doing that with oricon hmm

        hmmmm
        they could rehash makeb……

        • Paulo Gomes

          Damn… Well, you know what we’ll be discussing right here in one year’s time then… 🙂

          • Darth-Robin

            dear force lords of doom
            i sure hope not:P

          • Shawn Hargrave

            hopefully in a years time enough people will catch on to their greed and tor will finally die the miserable death ea deserves

      • Raiffynn

        yet you are still playing the game… lol

        • Paulo Gomes

          Actually my in-game activity has declined to about a day or two a week that I actually do any playing. So yeah, still here… but not as I used to be… And most certainly not for long…

    • Whitedragon

      I’m surprised it didn’t brake the site

      • Paulo Gomes

        This is a well designed site… It’s no Hero Engine running game… 😉

        • Whitedragon

          yes, must be a huge team of admins running it

        • Shawn Hargrave

    • RodoHermoza

      that’s what se said

  • DiM

    Wow, I was expecting something good, fuck me right? Companion – don’t care, already have 30 that I don’t care about, making it 31 will not change anything. Cosmetic armor – already have all I wanted. New tuning is not bad but im sure gonna be on CM soon enough. 50% exp armor is useless if you already have every class leveled. This even is for new players, which is ok, but for vetarans it’s a fucking useless time waste and utter shit. I think Bio thinks that rather than keep old players with some new content, lets just repack it to sell to new people get more players that will eventually leave cuz game core mechanics are stupid. GG BIO.

    • King of America

      The tuning isn’t a reward per se, it comes as a random drop in the packs (which you will also be able to buy). So you could possibly get one by starting a new character and leveling it up to 25.

      • King of America

        In fact, since the achievement is bound to Legacy, you could possibly just keep doing that on different servers until you get the tuning you want, then unlock it in Collections.

        • Unfortunately not, as you can’t unlock tunings in collections. You can transfer them via legacy weapons, but that would require your chars to be on the same server of course.

          • RodoHermoza

            u can put the tuning on a legacy weapon and send to another character by legagy cargo hold

  • Fuzzypaw

    Ok, I was thinking about doing this on one character. It might be fun to get all these achievements and awards, and then I could use this character to help make more conquest points for the guild. To me, it all looks good until I have to make more than one character/class for this. grrrr. I made once of each advanced class, and leveled them all up during last year’s 12xp time. This one is great for those who are new to the game, and haven’t done any of this yet. Doing it all over again just for a companion that will most likely start out at lv 1 doesn’t seem worth it to me. Chances are, I’ll do this with just one characters, and get what I can out of that from Champion status. After that the juice isn’t worth the squeeze.

    • Raiffynn

      to get all the way up to Eternal… you only need 2 characters (one pub and one imp, one darkside and one lightside). That’s not too bad. If you are stressing about Legendary, don’t do it. This is a game after all.

  • Terry G Roberts
    • Лев Сафаров

      That was fast.

    • Whitedragon

      i want to fight for datacrons, not jump!!!

    • Paulo Gomes

      Oh… More good news… These Datacrons do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Looool…

      • Лев Сафаров

        What for they need then?

        • Paulo Gomes

          Just for the “event” it seems…

      • Disqus this

        They don’t even do anything. Just another “check box” of worthless things to do.

      • gog

        Pretty sure they contain Bioware’s plans for future OPSes and non-recycled ideas

        • Paulo Gomes

          Lol…

  • Convoy

    Does anyone know how long this event is supposed to be open? Maybe I’m skimming over it but I can’t seem to find anything saying when it ends.

    • Disqus this

      It just said fall so most are assuming 3-4 months. Might end around October.

      You’ll get 3-4 months to redo many of the things you had 5 years to complete.

      • Convoy

        I see, that makes sense, thanks

    • Raiffynn

      Rumor around town claims December as the end date.

  • Conner Davidson

    ok as much as i love this game i kind of find this event to be extremely pointless to be very honest i mean i was reading some of the requirements like having all character types both factions so all 8 classes, well design flaw what if you already have all 8 classes and the legendary status which and i do say this lightly to be a pain in the @$$ because not everyone likes every story i only did it cause well at max lv 65 on a healing sorc what else am i to do when im not a fan of PvP and in the end i deleted those toons mostly the pub ones Empire for life (yay faction favourite bullcrap), now lets get back on track say you have all 8 classes, are you gonna go to another server to repeat all of it just to get some rewards that albeit are hard to get like the Revan reborn set or some fancy new armour set that basicly mimics the Wow Heirloom sets by if you have parts or even a whole set you get exp boosts when you can just run through the story with Legacy Class Mission or Pvp with that set of legacy exp boosts or any content in tor (pick your poison). im a big fan of Bioware’s games i’ve played all of the Mass Effect Games, Dragon Age, Kotor but this is just one reason for subbers to keep paying them to play when hell you can play this game up to atleast lv 50 F2P with all of the legacy stuff if you can get the credits which is even easier,one of the main reasons they switched to focusing on getting more exp from class and planet arcs was so that you would be enticed now to pay to play cause then you would unlock ROTC and SOR (Shadow Of Revan) and finally at 60 play what has to be a great (yes now im praising them a little more) story in KOTFE. Unless you are truely hardcore Tor player like i once was where you do everything in the game and thats practically the requirements for all the good stuff i do reiterate that this event is absolutly pointless. also i do believe there to be some sceptics so here is a screen shot of the first page of my Toon list on Begeren Colony (feel free to laugh at my legacy name i know i do :P)

    • Whitedragon

      leave WoW in the little girl section…

      • Paulo Gomes

        Don’t knock WoW. I don’t like the game either, but at least it WORKS…

        • Whitedragon

          heehee

      • Zenis

        I remember palyers saying that Blizzard recycles to much of their content. hehe hehe hahahahah….

    • Paulo Gomes

      Mate, using some punctuation would make your comment a lot easier to read… Just sayin’…

      • Whitedragon

        agreed…

  • Brother Bear

    Anyone know if the 50% xp boost legacy is stackable with the 25% xp consumables? And also the guild xp boosts?

  • Kyle Puttifer

    Musco stated that the tiers have to be completed in order. Now, I noticed that the Legendary Tier has Dark V/Light V and completing the Ziost storyline, stuff that one would probably do during the Legacy and Eternal tiers. Does anyone know if this means that, for example, if I do the Ziost story on an event character before reaching the Legendary Tier, I would have to do it again on another character to get the points? Or would it count retroactively? Likewise for alignment levels.

    • Andhros

      Most of the objectives seem to be written like a checklist for the Legacy screen. If true then completing each objective once should count. It also should help to keep all the packs earned during the event on one toon since they can’t be transferred just unlocked.

  • Lord of lords

    Alot of players have max out toons on server s. I have max out on server.

    Would bioware give us free tokens to create new toons on the server?

    If we have to create a new toon on a different server would all our achievements just be on that server? Not on both
    .

    • Paulo Gomes

      That’s an oxymoron: you’re using “bioware” and “give free” in the same sentence…

      • lord of lords

        Lol, just a question.

        So is that a no? Hahaha

        Point taken

        • Paulo Gomes

          Yes, it’s a no as far as I’m aware. Sorry for the toxicity, I have to tone down a bit…

          • lord of lords

            Just wishful thinking on my part.
            I cant live on hopes and dreams.lol.

            I feel your pain too.

    • lord of lords

      I hate the answer delete a character that is just plain fucking lazy

      • Paulo Gomes

        It’s lazy and completely idiotic. All this talk about epic storytelling, our choices matter and we’re going to save the galaxy… Yeah right, and when you’re done delete your character…

        They don’t even respect their own game man! Why should we?

    • The character slot tokens will be discounted, and aren’t very expensive to begin with, so as long as you’re not on the server limit it’s reasonably easy to expand. Also, if you’re not attached to your new characters, you can do the level 50 achieves one by one, and delete the char again when you’re done.

      If you’re at the absolute server limit already (think it’s 40 characters now) your only option is to delete chars or do the event on a different server. I’m not sure if the rewards are going to be bound to your legacy (only that server) or account-wide (all servers). Even if it’s legacy, you could still do the whole thing on one server, get all the rewards, and then move one character to your main server to merge the legacies. You’d only need one free slot that way, not eight.

      • lords of Lord

        Token is 2000cc i believe at the moment, normally 4000cc.
        only have 20 charcters on the server i play with.i am not 100 % sure what is the max characters you can have on 1 server.

        • Darth-Robin

          lvl 60 char tokens will not count, he was talking about the server slots

        • I picked a confusing choice of words, but I meant the “additional character slot” item normally sold for 600 CC. You can use those to create more level 1 characters, up to 40 characters on one server.
          https://torcommunity.com/database/item/QvrhFe2/server+character+slot/

          • lord of lords

            Thanks for clearing that up. Appreciate it

      • King of America

        Some rewards are legacy bound, but can be unlocked in collections. Others – e.g. the companion – are account-wide.

      • NunyadangbusinessDOS

        See, this is flawed thinking “it’s not that expensive”. Um…excuse me? I have to pay money out of my pocket over and above my subscription to participate in an event when I already have 20 plus toons already available?

        People like you are how we get ants. Do want ants? Because that type of thinking is how you get them.

  • John

    I think if we just disregard the Legendary level (cuz i dont believe the additional effort is worth it) and focus on Eternal to get the companion it would basically be sumarised into two things:

    1. We just need 2 characters, 1 from imp and 1 from pub, get them to level 65 while spacebarring thru the story missions including KOTFE.

    2. Complete the all the flashpoints.

    I believe these two objectives are the hardest but given 3-4 months of event time it should be easily obtainable. Anyone agree with me?

    • Whitedragon

      that’s my plan, then i will see how much time is left

    • Paulo Gomes

      Hummm… All the FP’s? That’s a hard one. Not for me, but considering you’re going to be running around with undergeared toons and with the general playing level of the community being so low… Yeah, it will be hard. Especially the HM’s. It won’t be easily obtainable, and it will be a major source of frustration for most people. I’ve seen people completely lose it on Tacticals, how’s it gonna be when they enter a HM? Clusterfuck, as someone rightfully said much bellow…

      • Raiffynn

        All the fps on solo or tactical is super easy and something us conquestors do daily anyways. Everything up to Legendary is very easy and quick to obtain, the rewards are worth it.

        • Paulo Gomes

          Oh you mean HM FP’s are not on the checklist bellow Legendary? My bad, scrap what I said then.

        • RodoHermoza

          HM is not easy even for who run with nice gear.

  • darkfather

    This is ridiculous. I already have 12 lvl 65 toons. What on earth would I want to do ALL that over again, essentially everything I have ever done 12 + times….and do it again….ALL of it. Every FP, WZ, OPs that I have already done 100’s of times and every Mission, Quest, etc….everything…all AGAIN. Honestly this has got to be the STUPIDEST event I have ever seen in an MMO. It is essentially just “create a new toon and do every singe thing there is to do in the game on that toon only”. BORING!! This kind of crap is part of why I pretty much quit playing this game anymore.

    • Isla

      Yeah, the event is basically “play the game… again” starting from scratch. If I still played, I’d probably pass it up. I have one of each class already, and I’d want the rewards on my main legacy, not another server. 🙁

      • RodoHermoza

        unlock by collection duh! . And this event is more for players sub or f2p who plays only with 1-2 characters as casual players, they want u to suscribe and create many characters. For players like me who already have 21 65’s maybe we can reach 1 to legendary to receive all rewards, and farm many to lvl 25 to get a lot of packs then unlock by collection set armor like satele, etc.

    • King of America

      It’s… not mandatory?

      • darkfather

        you are clearly missing my point

        • King of America

          I don’t think I am? There’s nothing in this event that should make you mad.

          • Zenis

            You are missing the point King. Tell me what MMO so far was stupid enough to made you do all of their content again on multiple characters just to receive its event rewards? Saying that it is not mandatory is stupid. This is NOT event for new players but for everyone and when you have MMO that to fully enjoy you need to have all classes than you get event to do everything again on one and level even more to get all rewards is wrong. At this point I am not sure if they are lazy or they know many players are that stupid to do it just because it is Star Wars and they can throw anything at you and you will be happy.

            • Raiffynn

              No, King has a point. I’ve played since beta and I think Im the only one not throwing a hissy fit. Ive moved to several different servers and had to start over from scratch on each one… so trust me when I say I understand completely the grind involved.
              However, did you really read the info completely? You get a hella lot of rewards for creating just one toon. In fact, you can scape through 95% of the reward tiers by creating only 2 toons. And the legendary reward tier isn’t that bad.
              Also as King stated… its NOT mandatory.

              • Zenis

                You can try to defend this atrocity as much as you want and still it wont hide fact that this is not event but it is just yet another bribe to get people to repeat content they already did multiple time. Sorry but for a minute dont be fan boy and try to think and see what is happening. I am bashing because I wont Swtor to become actual MMO with actual content as there are no SF ones besides EvE onlien and that is completely different game. I cant beleive people are happy by doing same thing years after years just because they throw you some weapon, armor and companion skins here and there. It is like throwing dog a bone every so often AND asking him to pay for it. Yea pay as I personally could not play this without sub.

              • RodoHermoza

                I have 21 65’s. And this kind of event is for players who only has few characters, This is good way they can complete all classes and get rewards because of that.

            • King of America

              They’re not “making” you do anything.

    • RodoHermoza

      I have 21 65’s . But u can farm lvl 25 get 5 packs x many characters u create and unlock by collection nice stuff

  • Whitedragon

    be back later , i have to go out and buy a case of mountain dew for this event.

  • Kplz

    http://m.torstatus.net/shards/us
    In case others missed it. Servers barely break light anymore. GG

    • Paradigm_Shift

      I posted links to the trends a couple days ago. Servers are on a mad decline. Don’t know the true story of The Harbinger since people kept transferring over there, but even they show declining populations.

      • Kplz

        Yeah, just wanted to refresh it at the top. Idk before i quit i transfered to harb to trying hm and nim raiding again but there is just nothing left. I think people just stopped honestly. Figures dont lie

  • OutlawBandit

    I guess I’m a masochist and will be giving this a shot. Who doesn’t like achievements and shinies?

    • Whitedragon

      lol

      • NunyadangbusinessDOS

        People who’ve already put in the work for the achievements – multiple times over? Just a guess.

  • This is what they’ve been doing with their time??? No wonder the game is dead.

  • Helix Xileh

    For the main toon to get through all(most) of the stuff do you have to do the main story of Chapters 1-3 to get it up to 55 and then do Revan and Kotfe, or can you skip most of the original story and just get it to 55 by any means, to then do Revan and Korfe?

  • JB1987

    “End of event Cosmetic Rewards – Things like the Companion and the
    vehicles will come at the end of the event and will be delivered to
    every character on the account, similar to the monthly sub rewards.”

    so does this mean that to get all the rewards, you cannot delete any toon without loosing the rewards?

    • Helix Xileh

      From this Article:

      Eric,
      Do the 8 characters that we need to level
      need to be active at the end of the event or can we delete them as we
      hit 50 to achieve the Alliance Hero requirement?
      Many of us no
      longer have 8 free character slots on our primary legacy server and have
      no desire to delete high level toons to create throwaway 50s.

      Once you have completed the objective by receiving the achievement,
      that character no longer needs to be active. So you could level to 50 on
      a character, and then delete it.

      -eric

      • JB1987

        ah, ok. i just wasn’t sure about the Dark Vs Light packs and the pioneer armor set for the legendary level. it kind of seemed like if you completed any of the achievements for the legendary level on certain toons (like for getting to lvl 5 dark) you cant delete them without loosing the reward……….god my brain hurts. alot of contradictions and redundancies.

        “Dark vs. Light Packs and Pioneer Armor Set – These will be delivered via in-game mail to the character who completes the final objective in that event level.”

        • JB1987

          “any reward that is noted with * you will receive at the end of the event
          later this fall. All other rewards you will earn as soon as you
          complete the Dark vs. Light level to which the reward is attached.”

          the packs and armor pieces dont have * right next to them, so basically you get them instantly.

  • Mister-giggles

    Let me explain. No, it is too much. Let me sum up:

    Even if you are no longer subscribing, all players can get the following missions completed provided that you have the expansions:

    Heroic: Tier 1 – reach level 25 on 1 character = 5 crates and 1 title

    Legacy: Tier 2 – reach level 50 on same character and complete 3 Story Flashpoints (Republic: Esseles, Taral V, Maelstrom Prison / Imperial: Black Talon, Boarding Party, Foundry) = 5 crates, armors,1 pet and 1 title

    For f2p owners of the expansions only:

    Valiant: Tier 3 – Complete the Shadow of Revan Expansion, Complete KotFE Chapters 1 – 9, and complete the Stronghold Purchase Introductory mission = 10 crates, armors, 1 mount and 1 title

    Eternal: Tier 5 – Reach level 65 in both factions, complete all 10 rounds of the Eternal Championship in solo-mode = 15 crates, 1 event companion unlock, 1 title

    These are for Subscribers only:

    Champion: Tier 4 – Complete KotFE Chapter 16, Complete 5 Alliance Recruitment Missions, Complete all Flashpoints (both Factions) in Tactical Mode, earn Valor level 5 in PvP = 15 crates, armors, 1 title

    Legendary: Tier 6 – kill 50 (event) Gree Droids, 50 (event) Rakghouls, and 50 npcs on Oricon. Infect 5 players with the Rakghoul Plague. Kill the World Bosses of Quesh, Hoth, Belsavis, Alderaan and Ziost. Kill 5 Operations Bosses – Karagga, Operator IX, Sparky, Draxxus and Titan 6. Kill Zotar in round 10 of the Eternal Championship in solo-mode. Complete all Flashpoints in Hard-mode. Complete 5 Starfighter matches. Complete 5 8vs8 Warzones. Complete 3 Bounty contracts from the Bounty Hunting Weekly. Complete the Ziost storyline. Get every class to level 50 with all new characters made on or after June 28th. Get every crafting skill/crew skill to level 550. Get one character to DS level 5. Get one character to LS level 5. Find 5 new datacrons on Ilum, Makeb, Nar Shaddaa, Oricon and Voss. Earn 1 million credits. Spend 1 million credits on datacron sold by Gwhirrye Nekor on Odessen. Activate HK-51 through his mission or by buying him through Legacy/Character Perks. = 30 crates, 1 armor set, 1 mount and 1 title.

    Considering that there are 17 servers (8 US/9 EU) reaching Tier 1 on each server will grant you 85 crates! Reaching as far as Tier 3 on all 17 servers would grant you a total of 340 crates.

    • RodoHermoza

      but collection would works if u r on different server?

  • Dr-Waffle The-Third

    Hey bioware, you know what you could have spent the time you used for recycling more content?ADD NEW CONTENT!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!

  • Brennan Norris

    Not sure if this has been answered already, but if I were to play through and level all 8 characters on a separate server, get all the achievements/titles and eventually get to Legendary status, then send all my rewards to one character and transferred him/her to my main server…would my achievements/titles be erased on that one because it has been absorbed to my main legacy?

    I figured the gear-related awards would stay in place if I kept them in my inventory, but what about the achievements/titles?

    • Risqu’e

      The way i understand it, the highest level legacy is the one that stays. So in order for it to be a safe bet that everything would transfer, you would first want to move a character from your main server over to the new one -before doing anything- so that your legacy thus far transfers to the new server. then make your 8 characters and complete the event and when you transfer back to your original server, (after the event), that transferring character would thus have the most evolved legacy on your old server causing it to update all your old characters.

    • Randomno

      When transferring, your legacies are merged on the destination server, and your legacy on your old server remains the same.

  • Marcos Romero

    what the actual fuck is this is shit?

    • adam hard on

      I guess you cant read?

      • Paulo Gomes

        He can… He just can’t believe what he just read…

    • Shawn Hargrave

      it is replaying the fuck out of shit youve actually done already

  • Fallenpants

    Oh well, another companion I won’t be getting because of some nonsense pvp requirement. And another month I won’t be subbing or returning to the game.

    • Krazh

      companion reward is from the fifth tier not the sixth. So you would only need to do 2 pvp matches to get to valor 5, not 15.

  • Mister Arrogant

    Can you get the same tier of rewards on multiple servers with different legacies? Also, when does this thing end?

  • Hexane

    Does anyone know if you can get Master Ranos via light side… but via an imp toon?

    • Teslawog

      Pub and Imp will get Master Ranos if Light Side wins by the end of the event. Otherwise, both sides will be getting Darth Hexid if Dark Side wins

      • Hexane

        Ah gotcha… interesting! Thanks for the info.

  • Zenis

    I went to check Dulfy page to see what is new in Swtor and see If i will return for my dose of SF MMO action and I see this. Basically play every part of our game again with brand new character. Actually with more than one to receive some random crates and cosmetics… Everything you did already but again on new characters.
    I mean am I crazy here and cant see bigger picture or this is new low for MMOs. Hell is Swtor even MMO anymore?

    • Paulo Gomes

      No, it’s actually an MSO.

      • Brak the Twi’lek

        its a scam that what it is. MMO part has failed and many old disgruntled players have left. so instead of fixing what got them disgruntled to bring them back , or doing the honorable thing by closing down and working on a serious single player rpg, the smart business thing to do to capitalize on the naivety of new players and reward them with meaningless items for doing what others have been doing since 2011. And who gets screwed? faithful old players whose only hope is is that there are enough guild mates left for the odd Op run in the evening

        • Paulo Gomes

          You will get absolutely no argument from me there mate, my thoughts exactly…

          • Darthmanwe

            And you people were laughing at me when I said this was where the game going when I left two years ago.

            I get no joy in vindication. Seeing the occasional SWTOR news at gaming websites hurts me slightly every time I see them.

  • Zak

    Eric
    Will there be a way to acquire the companion of the losing side in the future? E.G If the Dark Side wins will we be able to acquire Master Ranos at a later date?

    • Paulo Gomes

      Of course! Let’s see:

      – BW can rehash all the Dailies, seeker droid and macrobinocular missions… The ship missions that NO ONE plays… Oh! And ALLL the Operations, in SM and HM (NiM if applicable)…

      There’s always hope, right???

      • Michael

        EA just announced SWTOR will be changing its name to: Star Wars The Old
        Shit Gets Re Skinned Over and Over Again. So please enjoy SWTOSGRSOAOA . The story is SOOOOO amazing its all you will play. Over an over again

  • Fieramosca

    Oh wow! The worst part of the event:
    the rewards from the LvD crates are bound.
    Great way to fuck your customers in the ass, BioWare.

    • RodoHermoza

      u can unlock by collections

      • Damz

        u can, but if you get only part of armor on char its stuck on that particular char except if you buy the rest to complete set and then unlock.

    • Frank Narvaez IV

      You are getting free Cartel Market items. Many of which are hard to find. Stop complaining about getting stuff you would normally have to pay for.

  • Derpina

    Hello. I got my first rewards for reaching level 25. In one of the packs I got a really nice Advanced White-Black Hawkeye crystal. BUT it didn’t get added in my collections. I also got Reaver set stuff and Kreia’s set stuff and nothing got updated or unlocked. I thought they do get added maybe I understood something wrong? 🙁

    • Helpy Helperton

      For the crystal: Did you actually slot it in a weapon or off hand? It won’t add to collections until you do that.

      For the Armor: you need all of the pieces of the the set and to actually put it on.

      Other than that if it’s not updating try logging in and out. If still no luck submit bug report.

      • Derpina

        Yeah I did put it in my LvD characters main hand and nothing happened. I could transfer it with legacy lightsaber to my sorc and that worked. But when I took it of legacy and added it in my sorcs main hand nothing happened either 🙁

        • Damz

          sometimes all u need to do with crystal to add to collection is to remove it from weapon

    • Noomi

      They have already said that the unlocking in collections is bugged and that they are investigating it. Don’t delete the stuff just wait it out.

      • Derpina

        Ah thank u. I rarely read forums didn’t know. Will keep all of it 🙂

    • Sage

      I wrote to swtor and they said crystals has not being added to collections, these are actually broken. So he sent me two new ones that once bound to a weapon will appear in collections for unlocking. You should write to swtor saying you used the crystals but did not transfer into collections.

  • SickOfSoloWarsTheOldRepublic

    Only discounting the character slot unlocks by 25% percent ensures I won’t be doing this event. I would have unlocked 8 new characters and gone for legendary, but $37 is too much to participate in the “Summer of Do It All Again.”

    • SickOfSoloWarsTheOldRepublic

      25% percent? Lol!

      *25%

    • Dr-Waffle The-Third

      I still believe subscribers should have all of their character slots unlocked. We are already paying them, why do we have to pay them additionally? Oh, I forgot bioware needs money ontop of their money, so they can have money on top of their money that already has money ontop of that money.

      • eeeeaaaa

        not bioware, EA, get it right pls. rip bioware

  • Teslawog

    Is it just me or does the fact that you have to reach Light 5 AND Dark 5 for the Legendary completion seem a little counterproductive? Yes, you have to level 8 characters at least to level 50 to make up for it, but you have to counter yourself in the first place which just seems odd in a competition to see which side gets more points. They’re making participants play both sides.

  • Przemysław Narbutt

    This event have a timer or it will stay there for long time?

    • Noomi

      No date announced but we assume until october

      • Przemysław Narbutt

        Thx for info

  • GiftoftheMagi

    Ok folks let me ask a question and I do mean this seriously: Would this event be better or more palatable if there was no end-date?

    So say that yes, whatever the Light Side or Dark Side count is at November determines your Companion at that point. But let’s say each month afterward, the count is rechecked and a new Companion COULD be rewarded at that point to those that either don’t have one or not that particular one. And make that a new general feature of the game instead of just a “summer” event.

    I see this as not upsetting many players who already have plans this summer and not forcing endless grinds, but still rewarding you for doing all the content. It gives all the benefits and takes off some of the pressure. And again I state that it might help NOT PISS OFF YOUR PLAYERS.

    • Teslawog

      I think something like that would be an interesting idea. But I would still like to see the DvL event get a couple modifications. One being that they need to open it up to all characters, not just the ones created for this event. Second, I think they should add some rewards for attunement gains (say, achievement for gaining 5000 DS/LS points, 10000 DS/LS points, etc).

      • GiftoftheMagi

        I’m actually ok with the achievements being non-retroactive. but I also agree that in a few cases, you should be able to “switch over” a regular character to a LvD character, if only for the benefit of getting some time-sensitive achievements like the Gree event. The Gree one is happening NOW, but almost NO characters created for this will be able to do it this week….and worse there is only one more coming for the event.

        • Teslawog

          If they don’t want to make the achievements retroactive, that is fine. I’m kinda thinking along the same lines as what you suggested with the “switch over”. Just some way to use a pre-event toon to participate in some of the Dark and Light decision tallying.

  • Michael

    EA just announced SWTOR will be changing its name to: Star Wars The Old Shit Gets Re Skinned Over and Over Again. So please enjoy SWTOSGRSOAOA

  • Epic Hunt

    For “Big Earner” I mailed 1,000,000 credits from my main non-LvD toon to my LvD toon and got the achievement when I opened my in-game mail and transferred the credits

    • Teslawog

      I did that too so I could buy the character XP unlocks and got the achievement. So that’s an easy one to check off.

  • Sabretooth

    the rewards, can i still get the sith recluse armor i’m stay light side?

  • Jen’Ari-Asha

    Seriously, I really don’t mind this event. But it really ticks me off that the companion you receive is not based on your choices, but off the choices of the community. Why even have a battle?

    There are more light side people than dark side. Master Ranos will be the companion, and even the darkest of sith will be stuck with her.

    Seriously, why the hell can’t they just have personal choices? They have clearly fully created both of the characters, with voice acting and all. Why be a complete douche to the Dark siders?

    I am starting to feel like they’re deliberately trying to piss people off now.

    Sources:
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1dSCjGgnw3ckQcZldPvEJ4BMWNdJXBXi9Ccj8bSU-c_I/viewanalytics?usp=form_confirm

    http://www.swtorstrategies.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/infographic_en_854x4500.jpg

    • Jinn Kazama

      Well, let’s not forget that Legendary requires L5 light and dark toons. Seems a bit odd methinks. This whole event is to measure the LvD-ness of the Galaxy (AKA: servers)
      but one of the goals takes that choice away from us?

      Or to rephrase, the incredible amount choices it will take to get a toon to L5 will all be negated as you’re required to make an equal amount of counter-choices…

      So even the amalgamated community choices are not a true metric.

      So, I think we can call this right now.
      Ranos it will be. Judging from FP choices, it seems almost all (85%) pub players are light-siders and but only most (70%) imps are darknesses.
      Also, Ranos looks more awesomesauce.

      • jaydog

        This….I mostly make dark side.(or in my opinion rational choices ha)….but ive always wanted a Chiss Comp….and its a Chiss comp with two sabers….so i def am going light side lol

        • Fred Garvin

          What I think all of you are seemingly missing is that you only need to achieve Dark 5 and Light 5 once each. Since you need to bring 6 more toons to Lvl 50 during the event you can use those to tip the scales in the direction you wish to win.

          • Also, diplomacy can be used to generate DS or LS points that don’t count for the event balance (only conversations count for that).

    • Rint

      What community choice? We are forced to play both light and dark for the achievement so in my eyes that removed the choice from the game.

  • Rizenfell

    Great and awesome guide!

    I think some advice is in the article might be wrong? In The Outlander it says:

    [The Outlander: …] To complete this objective, you must have a character of at least level 60 and had an active subscription as of October 27th, 2016 to access to the
    required Chapters. If you meet these requirements, you will see a large
    “Play” button inside of your Mission log labeled Chapter I: The Hunt.
    Press “Play” in your Mission tracker and then press “Launch” on the
    pop-up to begin Fallen Empire. (Note: Once you have begun Fallen Empire
    you will be unable to complete certain content, this includes Shadow of
    Revan and the Ziost storyline which are required for other Dark vs.
    Light objectives.)

    I am fairly sure that:
    • Is the date shown incorrect? (It has not happened yet!)
    • If you begin Knights of the Fallen Empire, ONLY chapters 1-3 of the classic storyline become unavailable. If you have started Fallen Empire, you CAN go back and complete Ilum, Makeb, Prelude to Revan, Shadow of Revan and Ziost.

  • Stuart Johnson

    I haven’t started Knights of the Fallen Empire yet on event characters but Achievements shows I’ve done 2 out of 5 Alerts. I figured the first one was summoning Nico. Could using Legacy unlock to get HK-51 have somehow been mistaken for doing HK-55 alert?

    • Liam

      Each new alt you summon nico on counts toward it

  • taparoo

    So it appears the experience buff from the armor doesn’t work at all, or worse, doesn’t stack. I tested it at Level 7 on Jedi Cov, and with the armor on or off each mob is worth 189xp (for the test). Class missions likewise were the same with or without it on.

    I purchased the legacy class mission experience boost, and was running a major experience boost buff, but even so, it should be additional to that.

    It appears as if it’s broken completely.

  • Rint

    Speaking of broken, so they told us that these BoP items from the crates were able to unlock in collections but the White Hawkeye I just got doesn’t, and the Darth Sion supp armor box only had the belt.

    Its one fuck you after another with this event.

    • Sozinho

      Sorry for the late response. The Darth Sion armor only has 5 pieces, so it is normal that the supp armor box only contains the belt. Problem is the description, it is wrong. Same happens with Satele armor, and idk how many more.

  • Stuart Johnson

    Champion is broken. I just completed empire side Depths of Manaan solo, it was not checked off.

  • ColdFusion71

    Can the FP’s be done in solo or do you have to do them through Group Finder?

    • Stuart Johnson

      Except for Depths of Menaan which failed to check off for me, other soloable ones have.

      • ColdFusion71

        Oh great my least favorite FP I have to do with people

        • Darth Ji’inx

          It’s broken with a group as well.

      • Manaan can be done solo too, but it is bugged. It doesn’t register the kill if the final blow is dealt by the fire instead of the player or companion. If you kill the boss outside the fires it works reliably.

        • Darth Ji’inx

          That still doesn’t work for some people.

  • Chris Mitchell

    Where would the new xp gear be located so I can send copies to my other characters, or do I have to mail them?

    • Sozinho

      The armor is bound to legacy, you can mail it o just use your legacy cargo hold. Cheers!

    • Darth Ji’inx

      You can’t make copies. This means you only get one set per legacy where you complete the achievements.

      • Unoshi

        i just hope that at the end of the event, they will make it unlockable in Collection

        • Darth Ji’inx

          Doubt they will. They’d have to make a completely statless shell version (no XP boosts), and seeing as how they still haven’t done that with the lv32 direct buy sets on the CM, I doubt they will with this set.

          • Unoshi

            They don’t have to do that tbh. Bw always claim to be needing to do something in order to make it work. But lets say forget collection. Easily make a npc that sell those XP boost set and only accessible for players who qualified for the set or pieces

  • John Dullebawn III

    This event was a big let down for me personally. I have 22 alts at level 65 and have been playing since late 1.* days, so they want me to make 1 more alt and do everything I have done multiple times before and label it “New Content”? I am glad that alot of people are having fun with it, but I also think alot of older players that did all this soooo many times already will be let down as well.

  • Kyle Kendall

    so there is no way to get both new companions, hexid and ranos? every player out there will

    get hexid or ranos at the end?

    • Darth Ji’inx

      Only one of them will be awarded at the end of the event.

    • Unoshi

      They did say something along the line “No plans to reward the second companion at the moment” so you may or may not be in luck in the future for getting both. >IF< they decide to let the companion that loss the DvL contest to be rewarded still. bet it will be CM related