SWTOR July Producer’s Livestream Coverage

SWTOR July Producer’s Livestream coverage and notes.

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Agenda

  • State of the Galaxy
  • Chapter 15
  • Subscriber Rewards
  • Star Wars Celebration
  • Dark vs Light event
  • Chapter 16: Battle of Odessen

State of the Galaxy

  • GEMINI pack introduced to CM – Price went up to pre-KoTFE prices since we increased the item count in this pack.
  • Recruitment Mission: Guss Tuno delayed due to bug – if lots of people do the mission it won’t work. Hoping to get it back in as soon as possible (no date given)
  • Heroic mission credits nerfed. The idea was to bring heroic mission reward inline with rest of the game. Left out of the patch notes 100% by mistake. Going to rollback the changes with Chapter 16. If we do decide in the future to make an adjustment like that we will notify you in advance.
  • Story Companions – With Fallen Empire we wanted the story to really have teeth and you can lose companions. We are looking for a way to resolve this by adding a terminal that allow you to call back any companion you lost through the KOTFE storyline hopefully by Chapter 16 (except for Darth Marr/HK-55).
  • Group Content – We are currently working on group content – won’t say it is operation, flashpoint or warzone. We are definitely working on group content, able to talk it in the next few months.
  • Dark vs Light event – Discuss more below.

Chapter 15 – GEMINI Deception

  • Lead a daring assault on one of Arcann’s warships in a bid to seize control of the entire Eternal Fleet
  • Lots of cool gameplay stuff we added in this chapter

Community Contributions

  • Unholy Alliance – Revenge of the Musco Charity event
  • SWTOR Crafter
  • Newoverlords.com – DvL event tracker

Subscriber Rewards

  • Subscribe by July 1 to get HK-55 Victory Stronghold Decoration and Early Access to Chapter 16.

Star Wars Celebration

  • July 15-17
  • Biggest gaming presence in Celebration history
  • EA Star Wars Booth – Show Floor
  • EA Star Wars Panel – Sat July 16 from 7-8 pm GMT. Will be livestreamed. Will be making some announcements here, you will want to tune in.
  • SWTOR Cantina – Sat July 16 from 8-11 PM at the Fox Excel

Dark vs Light Event

  • Companions: Light side companion is Master Ranos from Jedi Order. Doesn’t always follow orders, like to walk the earth and check in with the people. Follow the will of the force. Sort of like a nomad/wanderer. Darth Hexid is the dark side companion – Sithest of the Sith, want to eliminate Zakuul.
  • Currently you can only get one of the companions, depending on which side wins.
  • What is the goal with the event? What are you doing for all the veteran players? We made a conscious effort to give more rewards out to our loyal fans in the past year– monthly subscriber rewards, Legendary status flair, and building a special bonus chapter for our loyal fans. The Dark vs Light event isn’t about that, it is about celebrating 5 years of SWTOR. We thought what if all the players go back and play all the content we released so far, we will give you some of the best rewards. It was awesome to see on a Tuesday afternoon 7 instances of Tython and players complaining about no monsters to kill.
  • Rewards – The intent isn’t to reward players for things that they did in the past, but rather what they are doing currently. We are not going to retroactively grant any of the rewards.
  • Character Slots – Increase character slots for people to unlock by 10. Hoping to get that out by Wednesday next week.
  • Dark vs Light Pack bind rules – having them BoP is a problem. We would like to resolve it, it isn’t as simple as changing them to bind on legacy as they wouldn’t get unlock in collections or work with armor pieces you already have from previous packs. We are working on some way to address this. We acknowledge that it isn’t working the way we intended.
  • Event Participation – Can’t share metrics but there are a lot of players participating. People love it and say how it feels just like launch.
  • Eternal Championship requirement for the event can be done in a group.
  • We are aware of some of the issues with the armor rewards for the dark vs light event, we are putting out a fix for next Wednesday.
  • Any of the rewards you earn at end of the event will be account wide and mailed to every character on your account, no matter the server.
  • Once you unlock the armor sets in tier 2, you are leveling the fastest the game has ever allowed with the post KOTFE leveling changes so they are not going to bring back 12XP bonus.
  • You have to complete lower tiers before you can complete higher tiers but you can do some of the objectives of the higher tiers and get credit for them while working on higher tiers.
  • We will give you plenty of notice for when the event ends, exact end date will be announced in about 2 months.
  • There is a bug related to a few items in DvL packs causing them to not unlock in collections. This will be fixed next Wednesday.

Chapter 16

  • Early access coming July 26. This is the final chapter in the season.
  • Face Arcann in deadly combat as he launches an all-out assault against the Alliance base on Odessen

Q&A

  • No plans to returning the Nar Shaddaa event in the near future but we know it is a popular event and looking to add it back
  • Dark vs Light event may affect more than just the companions you get but we are still working on that and no promises.

June Producer Livestream Wrap-up (6/30) | 06.30.2016, 10:04 PM

Hey folks,

We covered a lot in this livestream, here is the wrap-up if you weren’t able to tune in!

State of the Galaxy

  • Cartel Market Update – You can read all about the changes that were made in the GEMINI Pack, here.
  • Guss Tuno Recruitment – It is our goal to deliver this with Chapter XVI but we are still working through the issue.
  • Heroic Missions – They were rewarding a lot of credits, it was definitely having an impact. Still, we realize that with this being missed in the patch notes and the overall timing of the change, we are going to be reverting the rewards back to their pre-4.6 values.
  • Companions – Without being spoilery, we have received feedback regarding the impact of Companions leaving via story and the time/money that has been put into them. We are looking at how to solve this issue in the future.
  • Group Content – We have stated before that right now, there is no new group content coming in the short term roadmap. However, we do want to let you know that the team is working on group content as we speak. It is our plan to reveal more details later this year. Just to set some expectations, this isn’t confirming any specific type of content (Ops, Wzs, FPs), but group content is in the works.
  • Dark vs Light Event – Head down to the event section down below for details.

Chapter XV: The GEMINI Deception

  • Now available to all subscribers!
  • Lead a daring assault on one of Arcann’s warships in a bid to seize control of the entire Eternal Fleet!
  • Uncover more of the secrets behind SCORPIO and the GEMINI droids.

Featured Community Contributors

  • Unholy Alliance – Revenge of the Musco’s Charity Event
  • SWTOR-Crafter
  • NewOverlords DvL Event Tracker

STAR WARS: Celebration

  • We will be on the show floor all three days at the EA Star Wars booth
  • EA Star Wars Panel – Saturday, July 16th from 7-8PM GMT
  • London Cantina – Saturday July 16th from 8-11PM at the Fox ExCel

Dark Vs Light Event

  • Event Goals/Rewards – We have worked hard in the past year to try to offer rewards to veteran players and subscribers such as Legendary Status, monthly sub rewards, etc. This event is meant to be something different from that. As we are heading into our 5-year anniversary we really wanted to celebrate and offer new rewards to players for simply creating a new character and playing through the game. That is the overall focus of this event. We have no plans at this time to make rewards retroactive.
  • Character slots – We know one of the issues that was raised are players who are at the current character slot maximum. With our maintenance next week we will be increasing the server maximum by 10.
  • Dark Vs Light Pack bind rules – The reason we chose to go with BoP over BoL for these items is Collections. Currently, BoL items do not work towards a Collection unlock. If we had the items be BoL then you could not have combined the event packs with any other items to complete a Collection set. We agree this is not optimal and we are working on ways to solve this moving forward.

Chapter XVI: The Battle of Odessen

  • Early Access on July 26th
  • Face Arcann in deadly combat as he launches an all-out assault against the Alliance base on Odessen!
  • Jerry

    As people in chat said, I bet the ‘group content’ is a new heroic.

    • EyesOfGehenna .

      My guess is that if it was an operation, they’d say it. But they didn’t say it…so I am not holding my breath.

      • Darth Ji’inx

        Or maybe it’s still in the concept phase and they’re still trying to decide what it will be…

        • Vladislav

          Or maybe they thinking that next dev teamwork need to do something group like.

      • Ben Gimson

        The fact they won’t say what it is means it’s probably none, which means it’s going to be a shitty ‘original’ idea that nobody wanted or, in the end, likes.

  • michael fearless

    “With Fallen Empire we wanted the story to really have teeth and you can lose companions. We are looking for a way to resolve this by adding a terminal that allow you to call back any companion you lost through the KOTFE storyline…”

    I guess that’s nice, but – doesn’t that defy the point entirely? Maybe there’s something I’m not getting, but that just seems like making any story decision you make moot.

    • Darth Ji’inx

      It gives players the option to get them back if they regret their decision. Again, it’s just an option, so if you feel it should be a permanent etc., then they will stay gone.

      Also, Chapter XV’s outcome was not a player decision, so this is a good option to have.

      • Paulo Gomes

        I do feel it takes a bit of “Epicness” to the whole story. But on the other hand, it definitely IS hard to level a comp to 50 and then lose it…

        Something I started doing ever since I saw that some could vanish mid-story (Koth for instance): I ONLY level non-Main character comps. We have enough of them to be able to level another comp, wait for the story to unravel and then pick and choose which one of the main ones we want to use (if any).

        • Darth Ji’inx

          I’ve never even attempted 50. Excluding ship droids, my main (Ji’inx) gets each companion to 10, with Main Characters being 11. Xalek and Talos are 26. On my other characters, I get their original companions to 20 when they return, but ignore the rest.

          • Paulo Gomes

            Tbh, I don’t see a large difference in playing from very high lv Influence comps to low lv Influence comps. I can get by with over 20 something Influence…

            But if you craft… Oh boy, that makes a HUGE difference! The time you spend on missions and crafting is severely reduced by high Influence. And you know what they say: time is money…

            • Darth Ji’inx

              I do high level crafting occasionally. I keep up with the crafting cap (550) on all the crafting/gathering skills, but not the mission skills. Typically, I’ll craft to reach the new cap, or if I want a new armor (like the recent old endgame armor reskins), crystal, or dye.

              • Paulo Gomes

                I don’t really craft anymore, no point in crafting if you’re not subbed. But when I was subbed, crafting was a MAJOR source of income for me. So yeah, my crafters are the ones with the most boosted companions of all.

        • Ben Gimson

          Tbf, they’re still dead/gone in the story. Personally couldn’t care less about them outside of the story. They do a job; I just pick whichever looks the nicest (that’s Lana, btw ;P)

          • Paulo Gomes

            Vette all the way for me. I love that cute Twi’lek…

    • Leah

      its for people who leveled up companion to influence 50 for crafting purposes, only to lose them to unavoidable story progression.

    • Vladislav

      All companion anyway is just “dummy” right now. I would think about their returning like holo droid who coping companion who left.

  • Sarigar

    Serious question: even after all these months, I still don’t get what “Knights of the Fallen Empire” means. Which empire is the “fallen empire”? Zakuul is clearly in ascension, not sure how by any stretch it could be considered “fallen”. Is it referring to the Sith Empire? Are we, the players, the knights of the fallen empire?

    • michael fearless

      Yeah, that seems to be the case.

      And if that ‘KotET’ rumor is true, this story might actually get interesting…

      • Jerry

        yeh someone was spamming chat that a Knights of the Eternal Throne trailer for SWC leaked on Vimeo but I couldn’t find it.

    • I don’t even think *they* know the answer to that.

  • Ricooo

    When will announce the pvp rewards?

    • They said soon, will let us known soon ™

  • me

    my only comment is if you get a companion to a really high affection you just can’t remove them from the game so i think this is a good move. That high affection companion is/could be gathering, crafting, etc for the rest of the legacy. In this case i dont really care about this particular companion as I do not bother with affection for them but if it was one i cared about i would be hot.

    • me

      i forgot to add it is a complete pita to get one to 50 or even remotely near that. I raise 6 up equally at one time so that is why it is so ardous for me at least.

    • It’s a problem with the whole system. The player should be ranking up the crew skill’s efficiency, not the companions who run the crew skills. No, I’m not advocating for turning every game into the same thing, but since this *is* a story-driven MMO as it has been pitched from the *very beginning*, their systems should be able to adequately support a strong and impactful story. And the game’s systems *are NOT* able to support an impactful story, because crew skill buffs are stored locally on companions rather than with the crew skills themselves. Now you can lose a 50-affection companion and keep a 0-affection one because the companion with MAXIMUM AFFECTION decides to… leave…? Affection doesn’t seem to have any impact on the story, which makes it a really terrible idea to attach to both an individual companion AND your entire character’s crafting ability (via that companion). They’re double-dipping and it’s put them in a real bind, because they can’t make the story choices impactful. And because they can’t, now they’ve lied, because they promised they would.

  • Vladislav

    After reading this my ass now as hot as lava!
    “We thought what if all the players go back and play all the content we released so far, we will give you some of the best rewards.”
    Are you ****ing kidding me?

  • Fieramosca

    LULZ-Stream.
    Blabla, blabla. “New” information of the stream: there will be a new chapter next month.

  • EyesOfGehenna .

    And here’s the news: We will have news for you next month!

    • Fieramosca

      These guys are so diconnected from their player community.

      • EyesOfGehenna .

        They certainly ignored all the more interesting questions that were being asked

      • Carpice

        According to you, maybe.

        • Michael

          To be fair. Him and a lot of other people

  • Holic

    How much Dark/Light side points do i need to get the companions? or as long as i have finished the achievement on gaining the companion then i’ll get them after event ends?

    • Tigz

      yes eternal level achieve = companion at end of event

    • It doesn’t matter what your dark/light pts are, it is about the entire game, all the players picking more dark side or more light side convo choices.

  • Wyrmidon

    I just love how every time they insist that people LOVE their ideas….

    • Novadragon

      Are they trying to convince us or themselves?

      • Wyrmidon

        Ha! Exactly.

  • Firnon Zodd

    “Story Companions – With Fallen Empire we wanted the story to really have
    teeth and you can lose companions. We are looking for a way to resolve
    this by adding a terminal that allow you to call back any companion you
    lost through the KOTFE storyline hopefully by Chapter 16 (except for
    Darth Marr/HK-55).”

    Uh, geniuses, we can already get back HK-55. That’s what that whole Arma Risa mission is about.

    • j’oe

      isn’t the hk-55 a subscriber reward? that’s very different.

    • Darth-Robin

      hk55 is a sub reward and no longer obtainable, you would had a point if all prefered players who have kofte also ahd acces to that mission but they dont.

    • Darth Ji’inx

      Uh, genius, HK-55 was from a subscriber exclusive mission, not the terminal.

  • revan1337

    “Dark vs Light Pack bind rules – having them BoP is a problem. We would like to resolve it, it isn’t as simple as changing them to bind on legacy as they wouldn’t get unlock in collections or work with armor pieces you already have from previous packs. We are working on some way to address this. We acknowledge that it isn’t working the way we intended.”

    I hope they are already working on it, because BoP sucks. At least they adminted that was wrong.

    • Fieramosca

      They could make them BoE, yes we could sell them on the GTN then. And?
      This isn’t a problem, it’s a benefit. They are just afraid they sell less packs.

      • Darth Ji’inx

        Or it would cause a huge backlash because players that paid for these rare big ticket armors in the past would rage that people are making tons of credits off them even though they payed nothing for them.

      • iCantLogOut

        actually there is a big issue with making them BoE – the boxes are awarded to ANY ACCOUNT that hits level 25…. meaning I could make 20 dummy accounts for free and spam that first reward with no effort…. 1 person could singehandedly destroy the entire economy within a week.

  • Bad Luck Charm

    “You have to complete lower tiers before you can complete higher tiers
    but you can do some of the objectives of the higher tiers and get credit
    for them while working on higher tiers.”

    Ah. Oh well. No companion for me then, hm?

    • Tigz

      well u have at least 3 months and only need 2 lvl 65 toons. if you do all the solo fp’s as a group they wont take too long. and you can use the 50% bonus xp armor for the 2nd 65 toon. definetly doable for most. legendary not so much

      • Bad Luck Charm

        It’s the PvP that kills it for me. Need valor 5 to get Champ.

        • Tigz

          actually not as hard as it sounds. with subbed status even losing games should only take a couple of games per level..

          • Bad Luck Charm

            PvP is like stepping in dog crap, to me. Sure, it’s probably easy, but it’s also about as fun. I’m not likely to do it on purpose.

        • Ben Gimson

          That’s about 2 or 3 games. Easy.

        • Darth-Robin

          do 2-3 warzone matches at lvl 10 there valor 5 piss easy

  • Fieramosca

    We already fixed that problem, it will go live with the next patch next week.
    Translation: some coder made a really dirty work arround, we hope it won’t break anything else, but it definitly will.

  • Paulo Gomes

    “What is the goal with the event? What are you doing for all the veteran players? We made a conscious effort to give more rewards out to our loyal fans in the past year– monthly subscriber rewards, Legendary status flair, and building a special bonus chapter for our loyal fans. The Dark vs Light event isn’t about that, it is about celebrating 5 years of SWTOR. We thought what if all the players go back and play all the content we released so far, we will give you some of the best rewards. It was awesome to see on a Tuesday afternoon 7 instances of Tython and players complaining about no monsters to kill.”

    Well, speaking for myself, I don’t want anything specifically for veterans. I would like you guys at BW to be able to be CREATIVE enough to put together an event that would please EVERYONE, and not be PENALISING for veterans. That’s all.

    People are loving it and it feels just like launch… Come on, I don’t want it to feel like launch man! That was 5 years ago! I want to have NEW stuff, I don’t care about not having monsters to kill on Tython ffs…

    And before anyone jumps on my case claiming it’s not penalising to be a veteran and play the event: the fact that they are trying to up the cap level on chars by 10 is proof enough for me…

    Just as expected, BW continues to be autistic to all the criticism and believes they are right on the money… Nothing new to see people, move along, move along…

    • Tigz

      the word you are looking for is “oblivious” not “autistic”
      and while i agree they could and should have done more to appeal to all types of players, you are never going to get an event liked by “EVERYONE”, there will always be people who like to argue that the earth is flat.

      • Paulo Gomes

        Hummm… Maybe it’s a language problem, my first language is not English… But that one will do too…

        • I have autism and HIV

          you might be correct if the person/s who made this decision are autistic

          • Vladislav

            Why “if”?

        • Jo

          Nah man, autistic works, it’s an insensitive way of saying it, but this whole event seems like some Rain Man bullshit. It really really does.

          • Ark

            agreed right >_<

          • Michael

            Kmart sucks

  • hinc94

    Why are they not returning the Nar Shaddaa event?

    • Tigz

      cause they are focused on fixing all the bugs thye created with this event. but they did say nightlife would return at some point in the future.

      • Darth Decimus

        Soon ™

  • SHITSTAIN

    Are there certain things with the event we should hold off on due to bugs?

    I want to level another character but I’m worried getting a pack on a character that I don’t wan that shit on.

    • Darkredwing

      Keep an eye on how close you are to completing a tier and make sure you get those the final achievement at each tier on whatever character you want the packs on… really the best way to do it so you don’t get armor packs on different characters.

  • Ben Gimson

    “The Dark vs Light event isn’t about that, it is about celebrating 5 years of SWTOR”

    Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    Yeah… no.

  • Whitedragon

    I’m beginning to believe the people who work on this video game, Don’t like playing video games. they think we’re all idiots and fools for spending so much time and money on it. they laugh at us every time they cash their pay checks. The real gamers are long gone.

  • captain geko from sto

    “Event Participation – Can’t share metrics but there are a lot of players participating. People love it and say how it feels just like launch.”

    Same like with delta grin..oops I meant delta rising in Star Trek Online (Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and the players love it)?

    • Whitedragon

      i thought Delta rising was awesome…

    • Fieramosca

      I enjoy some of the story of my event char, an agent (3rd in total). But so many quests are: “Oh no not again, how many stupid trash mops I have to grind through?”, “oh great travel all over the whole planet for 1 cutscene and back again, there goes my XP boost for running arround while getting 0 XP.”
      Most time ist just a pain. I’ve done all this before. And please don’t remember me of the launch of this game! There is nothing exiting about this.
      The worst part is: To finish all, I have to level 7 other chars!
      Does ist feel like launch? Kind of, it’s still bugged as fuck!
      🙂

  • Jess m.

    A topic that was touched on by Musco for a split second incase you didn’t see the stream. Musco understands all the questions about season 7 rewards and said he will be trying his best to gather more info and get it out to the community.

  • Kplz

    Celebrating 5 years of swtor by restarting 8 characters again and play the exact same content? What a pathetic response.. suck my dick as i am having diareha EAWare.

    • Connor

      So, would you not celebrate say star wars in general by re-watching the old movies, or would you complain that they are not giving you a new movie right now?

      • John Kosto

        Yeah, because that’s the same.

      • Cloudz

        The level of effort is different than watching a movie. Besides the fact that the writing and acting is way better than what SWTOR has.

        • Eh, I enjoyed the class stories, and I enjoyed the KOTFE story. The problem, at least for me, isn’t that the stories aren’t good. It’s that they have no replay value because, to be frank, they lied to us. They told us our choices would matter and they lied. Our choices have not mattered. If it actually changed the game, then sure. There’d be replay value. But they don’t, so there isn’t, so the repeatability isn’t any better than a movie. And, while the story is reasonably engaging and relatively long (compared to a single movie), I’m really not a movie person anyway. So, the TL:DR of this is, I think its unfair to say that movies have better writing and acting than SWTOR because I don’t think that’s accurate. I don’t think the issue is with SWTOR’s writing/acting, it’s just not fun to play *again*. And besides, KOTFE story *is* way better than Episodes 1, 2 and 3, in my opinion. Just because the story isn’t better than *every movie ever made* doesn’t mean it still isn’t a decent story.

          The KOTFE replay value sucks. That’s true. But give criticism *THERE*, where it’s due, not at the story’s quality where it’s not due.

          • Cloudz

            It’s funny you say that about the gameplay. I mirror your response in a post a day or two earlier.

            • So have I, multiple times before. It’s not exactly an unheard-of point to make, I just felt it was worth bringing up again.

          • Paulo Gomes

            Good point. I’m saving most of my characters to play the expansion after it completes. After Chapter 16. I want to have a single play-through to properly grasp how the story flows when played back to back.People are playing the story chapter by chapter, and I think they miss just how big it actually is.

            Hey, here I am defending BW again! That’s a plot twister lol…

      • Drivan

        I payed $70 one time and bought teh first 6 movies. Now I watch a couple of them once or twice a year. I believe that is how I will “celebrate” SWTOR from now on, I’ll play it once or twice a year. I’m sure 2 and a half hours every 6 months will allow me to experience everything they plan to add to the game in the future…

        Seriously though, I’ve paid nearly $900 in subscription money (and a SHIT LOAD more in cartel coins) since first getting SWTOR. I think I have already paid for more than being told, “to celebrate our 5th anniversary we want you to level 8 more characters. We don’t give a shit that you have already leveled 20 characters, because we want your money and we don’t want to do any additional work for it!”

        These asshats aren’t getting another dime from me.

      • Paulo Gomes

        You know, that’s a funny comparison, since the MOST flack JJ Abrams got from the Star Wars fans was that Ep VII was just a rehash of Ep IV…

        🙂

        • DarthPalidin

          Huh, I must be the only one who does.

          • Paulo Gomes

            LOL! Well, I didn’t say I didn’t WANT to do it, just that I don’t…

        • Andhros

          I swear if the fan complaints prevent Disney from following up “A (New) New Hope” with “The Empire Strikes Back (Again)” I will be upset. Although I won’t mind if “Return (of) the (New) Jedi (Order)” gets a total rewrite.

        • Michael

          Bahaha and your mother is thankful

    • Oni

      Nobody is forcing you to go for Legendary tier.

      • This is such a stupid and small-minded response. It’s not *about* the event, it’s about a loss of faith in the humans who designed the event, those who are supposed to care about the game and its community, yet prove time and again how much they don’t. This is really *not* that hard to understand.

  • Darth-Robin

    after grinding my ass off for the last 3 days to get my vanguard to lvl 50 even with exp boost, i can safely say damn shit grind period. though i did finish nearly all the tacticals 😛 just a few more to go
    found 1 of the new datacrons, didnt do squat offcourse
    did valor to 5, almost done with starfighter matches, now to do 10 more pvp matches for that archievement plus a shit more
    though you dont need the rakghoul event to kill rakghouls, just go to taris and kill 50 of those fuckers and done same goes for gree, better get your event char to lvl 50 and grind those gree droids before you have to wait till the next gree event

    i shudder to think i have to level 7 more chars to 50
    atleast the crew skill grind can be done easily just craft those bonded attachment

    • Jo

      Well you don’t have to really right? You only need to level two to get the companion, I think. You’d miss out on some armor, packs, a mount, magbe a title but you’d still get a lot only leveling 2.

      • Darth-Robin

        still need to sub for 4th tier regarding all 16 chapters. so no i am not able to get to eternal tier

  • Patrick Bateman

    What a pile of disingenuous horseshit when it comes to their reasoning for not making the 8 characters to level 50 and all 6 crafting skills to 550 retroactive.

    Keep on keeping on you pricks. This game being like launch right now isn’t exactly a good thing. Let’s not forget that sub numbers tanked after the first few months and it was F2P within a year.

    • Cloudz

      To be fair not that many games stay as P2P for very long. The market has shifted towards B2P or F2P with micro transactions. For better or for worse.

  • John Kosto

    1. “Lots of cool gameplay stuff we added in this chapter”
    No, not at all. The Chapter was probably the worst one so far, the Alliance Alert was bugged, and we even lost a companion. Nothing cool was added. Even the portable cargo hold and legacy cargo hold, need 5-8 million credits EACH to fully unlock. So what do you do along that? You nerf the money rewards from Heroic missions. What a shitshow.

    2.”It was awesome to see on a Tuesday afternoon 7 instances of Tython and players complaining about no monsters to kill.”
    I am sure there are millions of definitions of the word “awesome”… that, is definitely NOT one of them.

    3. “We acknowledge that it isn’t working the way we intended”
    Well that’s a first.

    4. “We made a conscious effort to give more rewards out to our loyal fans in the past year– monthly subscriber rewards, Legendary status flair, and building a special bonus chapter for our loyal fans.”
    You mean 90% crappy HK-themed rewards that no one ever uses or cares about, an icon next to your character that I could not care less personally if it was there or not, and a special HK-themed bonus chapter which will probably be horrible too? Great….

  • Cloudz

    As ‘good’ as the story was gameplay wise it was just trash mobs galore with forced companions and choices that really didn’t affect anything. Sure certain characters can leave you, but the story continues almost exactly the same minus those characters speaking. My character completely forgot about Koth.

    That on top of affection/influence grind being changed with no real benefit (no further cutscenes when you reach a certain point) AND courting gifts still being bugged all the companions are basically skin swaps. Still no Khem Va or Jaesa where the player decisions actually affect the NPC either.

    I’d love to do the LS vs. DS event, but why would I do it for another companion that doesn’t matter?

  • Jonathan Parker

    Alright, good to know that they meant to completely reuse the entire game all over again to get more subscription money from players. Great, now I know just how much Bioware cares about this game and its players. I like how they even included that bit about players complaining about issues that still haven’t been addressed since launch, like respawns in high player count instances. I can’t believe they’re defending this bullshit. They know it’s not for new players. The worst thing they could do is stick new players in an environment filled with veterans with every bonus they’ve acquired through the years of this game, not to mention with a time limit to rush through everything in the game. They’re doing this purely because they’re delaying until new content comes out. They know that so many people want new group content alongside the new story chapters, so they’re throwing an event at us in the meantime. All they had to do was add a few sets of armor and a couple of mounts, and boom, months of subscribers! Bioware, EA, whoever was responsible for this crap, this is a guaranteed way to lose the faith of your players, and lose the money from a good number of them too. I’m going to try to get through this event, at least up until the “level all eight classes again, because fuck you” part, because fuck that and everything it stands for, simply because I do enjoy this game and I do have two classes that I have yet to play through, but I will not stand for blatant and insulting bullshit like this.

    • Omecrion

      I agree with yea man, watching that livestream just further reinforced my belief that BW or whoever is calling the shots just doesnt give a fuck about the player base. Ever since at least 3.0, everything has just gone to hell. Not only from gameplay but also just the atmosphere of the game, the kinds of people playing, and also the way the devs started acting. Though for me the tipping point was 4.0 when they not only completely changed the crafting but also they got rid of all of the fleet vendors that actually sold stuff that players wanted instead of the same recycled garbage that came with the cartel packs for the last 6 or more months. It just now seems that BW has gone full EA on the players and we have to suffer because of it. I mean we can try and do what we can on our end to try and effect change but its at this point that the game is in my opinion not worth salvaging and should just be shut down like SWG after all the stupid decisions that SOE made with the game.

  • MKDAWUSS

    That Chiss Jedi (seems legit… lol) is the more interesting character, though my Darth Imperius would probably mesh well with Darth Hexid, considering they both want Zakuul wiped off the map.

    • Alex Robinson

      Honestly, the chiss is the reason I want LS to win. We don’t have a chiss comp yet (despite having access to a few dozen now) and she just seems more interesting than Darth Hexid on the whole.

      • Ravarah

        Hexxid is just another Cliche sith … I guess you could say the same about Ranos, but at least Ranos is actually interesting … rather than the “RAWR IM GONNA STAB ALL THE THINGS” mentality.

        • Alex Robinson

          That’s sort of what I’m thinking, yeah. Sure, Ranos is sort of a cliche Jedi, though they describe her as somewhat bucking at authority which I think is kind of fun. More of a “Chaotic Good” Jedi, rather than Lawful Good / Lawful Neutral, if you’re familiar with the terms. Hexid COULD be interesting, but given how they tend to write excessively darkside characters, I’m guessing she won’t be.

          • Bobfish

            I fail to see how one is more interesting than the other. They are both just cosmetic, as we already have access to several Jedi and Sith companions.

            I’d be very surprised if they even have dialogue, let alone anything unique or interesting about them. I will concede that a Chiss companion would be something new though.

            Doesn’t really matter though, we all know there are significantly more Imperial players than Republic, so odds are those not making an effort in the event (new players), are the ones that are going to decide this for everyone.

      • FacelessOne

        That was the plan of the devs all along to manipulate the community to go LS. And everyone who want’s that companion is st*pid.

        • Fred Garvin

          ..

  • Fluffs

    “we will give you some of the best rewards”
    RNG packs are from the best rewards

  • RandomFan

    So here I was having a boring day, I turn on the computer, click on the link and hit play. A few minutes later to say the least this is how I reacted to the news . . .

    • RandomFan

      Hey, at least for a few minutes there I wasn’t bored anymore

  • Michael

    Once again the Devs ignored everyone that had issues with the event. Talked right down to us and explained why they were right and we were wrong.
    Since they gave us crap rewards for the last year we should just embrace this event. Even though a lot of people didn’t seem thrilled with all the HK stuff the Devs said the rewards were some of the best ever. So it is so. I was under the assumption they were appeasing us for lack of group content. I saw a lot of the people on the forums asking for new group content. Pvp or Ops if we were even that lucky. But the Devs said there has been plenty of content. So it is so.
    The Devs say this event is so great cause they can relive that vibe from launch. When the servers were full an zones were packed. You know. Back when they first started ignoring us.

    • BrianDavion

      the vibe from launch was optimistic joy at the discovery of all the content etc. you can’t get that vibe back by making us all re-roll. it just won’t happen.

      • Aiko

        At least now we know why they left all those bugs in the game. Feels just like launch 😀

  • SirRobinII

    Do they have something else besides, community managers, cartel items designers and story lvl designers? I have the feeling they only can use the simple tools of hero engine. It’s amazing how they can break something that they didn’t touched. Tech lab on OPG, 12 people ista dying at the same time, some of them died for the second time right after they respawned…..

  • Gavelkynde

    This again – doubling down on old content.

    You can reheat it and sprinkle some sugar over and put a cherry on top, but if I ate it already it’s still a TURD.

    The new content IF it comes will be too little too late. Look at the pace they have set for new group content – once every 2 years?! Fuck THAT.

    • BrianDavion

      yeah just about everyone I know isn’t planning on renewing their sub. the poor use of their assists is downright criminal. by over relying on phases they’ve lost sooooo many oppertunities

  • JB1987

    “Group Content – We have stated before that right now, there is no new
    group content coming in the short term roadmap. However, we do want to
    let you know that the team is working on group content as we speak. It
    is our plan to reveal more details later this year. Just to set some
    expectations, this isn’t confirming any specific type of content (Ops,
    Wzs, FPs), but group content is in the works.”

    just……just stop. stop lying to us and yourselves. we know the truth. we’ve always known. so just don’t……jeez…..

    • FacelessOne

      The new group content will be: Start a LvL 1 Charakter and do all again, WITH your friends.

      • Michael

        So true. Just waiting for the pointless ls/ds even to end so they can announce it

        • JB1987

          speaking of, when does the event end exactly?

      • Disqus this

        You watch. It’s going to be a Tactical leveling experience of some sort when you get to run it all again. Making the LS/DS fiasco pointless just like right now the last 5 years were pointless for this event.

        Talk about reliance on rehashed content. Something that has never been viewed as good in a paid for MMO.

    • Michael

      I lol so hard everytime they use the word “roadmap.” I’d love to see this “roadmap” of dead end streets and new streets that sprout out of nowhere and then dead end. They act like everytime they say “roadmap” we forget that we’ve been lost on thier streets for the last 5 years

  • Havik79

    Why is it getting patched next Wednesday not Tuesday?

    • BrianDavion

      because the monday is July 4th. they always have a delay in patching if the monday is a holiday. this is nothing new

      • Havik79

        I know they delay it, did not know it was a holiday.

        • Guest

          Someone’s not an American.

          • Lor_Azut

            I’m not American and I know what July 4th is.. Someone must be living under a rock if you don’t know about July 4th! 😉

  • Jha

    I’m embarrassed that an Australian is leading/ providing this bullshit content, guss vs chapter
    “chapter more important” um they are monthly chapters, your idea, what you don’t know when a chapter would be coming out and the exact date it drops each month, you think we are just going to cop your excuses/lies….. You do know you have players that have been around for 4.5-5 yrs loyally paying subs, but hey who cares about them hey…….
    Subscriber rewards, HK shit!!! wow you devs really know how to look after us, can’t wait to get the “hk-bullet” to kill my 22 toons with…..
    “We working on group content, in a few months”, A few months lol was this not promoted at launch as “join your friends” yet there’s no content yes launch was 5 yr ago but there’s been nothing since SoR over year ago not including pvp. Why can’t EA give SWTOR the money it generates/makes/needs instead of using our money to pay for sports stars to promote your console games……. Finally unsubbing after 4.5 yrs time to find a new game…….. Such a shame customers mean nothing, but then again with the history of EA/BW we shouldn’t be surprised… Sitting there talking Musco shit patting each other’s backs instead of actual game issues up coming content…… Anyways rant over

    • Let’s win Zika @ Rio!

      I hear you mate, next will be replay all 16 adv. classes to 65 all ops NiM all crew skills 550 all companions to 100% influence and find 30 NEW DATACRONS THAT GIVE YOU ZERO BENEFIT and you will get the darkest lord of all as your new companion, Darth Bane!!

      • guest

        I would do all that for Bane. Dont give them ideas.

        • Paulo Gomes

          I would do the event, plus all macrobinocular and seeker droid missions, dailies, the stupid ship missions AND all the Ops again in HM/NiM for Bane. Specially if he came with a recruiting mission. Yeah, please never, ever mention Darth Bane again in social media…

          • Guest

            But he would just be a reskin of Zalek.

    • Wow, what a bunch of discombobulated noise. You probably mumbled something I agree with, but yikes that was *ALL OVER THE PLACE* >_< Maybe you should considering some punctuation…. perhaps some formatting… It might even make your post… I don't know, READABLE?

  • BobbyOrr

    This is really crappy having to wait until chapter 16 to get Champion and beyond, especially since Eternal is easier than Champion. The crappier part is that leveling alts to 50 would be a good thing to work on until Chapter 16 comes out, but you can’t get the full 50% XP from the gear unless you complete Chapter 16:)

    • AbnerDoon

      Running my DS alt through now. Even with only the 25% bonus from armor and a XP pot it is moving pretty quick.

      • BrianDavion

        assuming a sub leveling even without any of these bonuses is stupid fast

    • John Kosto

      The event will last until at least November, if not a lot more. The crappier part of this event is the whole event. Making people grind pointlessly for months.

  • Hadin

    “Going to rollback the changes with Chapter 16”. Soooo they’re going to un-nerf heroic credits when chapter 16 comes out? Why wait until chapter 16?

    • FUBAR’ed h2 creds income

      Wondered about that myself…probably they want players to grind new regrind event.
      Also there are chances for them (eaware) that someone might buy cc to sell something via gtn to have creds faster than normal farming.
      Of course ni hao farmers can farm unharmed and sell credits for $ but us legitimate players are screwed.

      BTW. They stated that they might change those h2 payouts after unnerfing ’em, they’ll just not lie (but announce this maybe) about “adjusting” creds rewards like with this nerf.

      • Michael

        They are bringing them back so they can announce the nerf. Thats all that is. Youll get maybe a month out of it

        • Hadin

          Hoping Bioware really isn’t that stupid but I wouldn’t be surprised.

    • Paradigm_Shift

      Every since they came back from the holidays, they only do one patch that coincides with the launch of the the new cartel market pack interactive infomercial that they call a new chapter. The only updates you see information wise in the the middle is about cartel market sales.

      I gotta give Bioware credit on one thing, They officially created the first interactive infomercial in a video game.

      • In their defense, the amount of content they create in that month is actually pretty impressive, if you consider everything. They don’t take your character back to Balmorra and reuse its environment — the chapters bring new areas as well as new story, characters, etc. The content they produce in a month probably isn’t worth $15, but considering some full-fledged multi-year games only have six hours of story content, the amount of content they produce each month is relatively impressive, actually. The fact that you can play through 15 chapters of the story at least once if not many more times (within the month) for $15 is actually pretty nice.

        Do I think this makes up for their complete and utter lack of new Operations? Of course not. Are they making a huge mistake by focusing their MMO on no-replay-value singleplayer content? Absolutely. But my point still stands. I think it’s unfair to call the amount of content an ‘interactive infomercial’, considering how little development time it has.

        PS: Yes, obviously they don’t start from scratch each month and make the whole thing in that time, but they also work on later chapters as they make these, leading to the average development time landing at the regular one-month mark.

  • TMNJ

    Freaking love how they’re trying to cover their bullshit aka LvD event.

  • Deshik

    I’m not mad. Got several neat speeders and revan reborn lower and upper set.

    • Disqus this

      Which only that character can use and if you want to use it on your main, you have to pay real money to do in the form of CC.

      Sorry but thats a but to much in my eyes. It should have been BOL and that BS answer of it not being able to be BOL is a lie. We have had crystals that are BOL and in the collections tab for years. So we know it can be done. It’s a money grab in the worst way.

      • Unoshi

        well doubt any of the DvL is a main, but it has always worked like that, get full set, unlock it account wide with CC. Only difference is you cant get to send the item to alts to make up for a missing piece and i see no issue here. Buy CP get almost full set, trade or buy what you want from player or GTN as it has always been. I dont think we ever had a BoL that could be unlocked in collection.

        And we never had a Crystal that was BoL

        • I’m almost 100% certain that the purple striated crystals are in collections, and they are legacy bound. But, to be perfectly honest, I really can’t be bothered to open SWTOR to check XD

          • Unoshi

            hehe if i dont forget i’ll check in later, cba to do it now as well. but i never really bothered with striated cause not my taste really.

            • Okay, but they still exist, so… we did have a crystal that was Legacy-bound. (and I am certain they are, because I remember putting them in my legacy bank). Also, Furious PvP crystals are 100% Legacy-bound too.

      • Why should they make it Bound to Legacy? They get more money this way.

  • w30

    Even if you play the whole content again, they don’t want to give you their precious cartel market items. Only BoP you get them. You can unlock them, that’s a clever move, so they earn CC. That’s not a reward, it’s a scam, BioWare! A way to get our CC. And you really think we don’t notice that?

    • Disqus this

      Not just that but they made them BOP so to add them in collections. Then they “F”ed up collections. The sole reason they made them BOp in the first place. BW truly comes across as a bunch of amateur game makers. I know it’s not true but damn at their mistakes in this game.

  • The Watchmen

    I feel weird. I caved and made a 2nd Sentinel for the event. Dont feel as bad since they confirmed that all items that are released at the end of the event are account wide. So, I’ll get the companion on everyone. That makes getting to the level easier for me to deal with (having to level two to 65 is a pain when you dont have the time, but I’ll get it done for sure)

    The packs though. All the items are bound to you. Guess they didnt want the GTN flooded with more rare items. Sad everyone I have gotten from them is crap I already had….

  • Mandalore19

    Say, when we will see Akaavi Spar? If so, can it be possible have her meeting be something very meaningful?

    Like myself, many fans of Akaavi Spar would really love see more of her character and what she’s gone through last five years. One thing is maybe she could be leading her own clan possibly? Who knows, my mind is racing with thoughts.

    One thing I like see is unique armor for her, maybe one of those V visor helmets? Just something new for her.

    • Obviously she’ll come back when we get a Mandalorian-themed chapter of KOTFE.

      Wait…

  • Disqus this

    Given how they stressed group content and would not confirm any specific type of content (Ops, Wzs, FPs), but group content is in the works.

    You can bet your ass it’s not an OPS and the wording to that is already troubling. We used to call that a well written slight of hand cover up that does nothing but mislead and put you off from the real problem.

    There is no more OPS coming anytime soon.

    • Bobfish

      As soon as they said that I immediately thought that it was a new type of content, something they haven’t done before.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if they take a leaf out of FFXIV’s book, and make a tactical group dungeon with it’s own progression and reward system.

      • EyesOfGehenna .

        Chances are it’s like that dungeon they made in GW2 a while back… Just wasn’t interesting to me. I have lost interest in the current ops also though, so I am changing how I play SWTOR and how often. Luckily I do like story in general but I think real group content is off the table and it probably will be just 4 man style content at best.

        • Bobfish

          I’ve not done an OPS since last year, just no motivation to do them. Given how they’ve redone all Flashpoints to be solo/tactical now as well, I don’t think that is what they would do either.

          Plus, they weren’t shy about talking about the last warzone whilst they were working on it, so I don’t think it’s that.

          I just hope that this new group content isn’t the focus of their big announcement at the celebration, because, I have no confidence in them producing anything good in that area.

      • Michael

        I’m not sure that this current dev team even know what group content means. I see another star fortress is the making. Something they can talk about for months an we can play for days

      • Disqus this

        Well lets hope they put more effort into this so called “new group thing” because if they put in the same effort as they have in teh past year for the current group content then we’re all screwed.

        As far as tacticals. Screw that. It’s nothing but a cluster “F” of randomness with little to no organization requiring little to no skill. Decent enough for a FP but still sucks most times but nothing good could come of it being for a larger group. And I truly don’t believe BW has it in them either.

    • ggl2p

      there wont be any more group content because they’ll close this game like battlefield heroes, fuck eaware

      • Uh……. no… that’s not how rational thought works — try again. “They closed one game that I liked, therefore they will close another, because… reasons”

        You seriously think that they aren’t developing group content because they’re planning on shutting down their biggest cash cow? Why would they still be pouring tons of development hours into a singleplayer story experience? Whether *you* play KOTFE or not is 100% irrelevant — the fact of the matter is that they’re still developing high-quality (albeit low-replay-value) content for the game, and just because they’re not making what *you* feel they should be making does not somehow mean that they’re going to close the game. The logic leap in that argument is mindbogglingly ridiculous.

        • Packs

          Must be fun scrolling through Dulfy comments and pointing out what goes against your logic.

          RIP Operations and Raiding. Been dead for almost two years.

          • Actually yes, it is. I enjoy making sense. Obviously not everyone feels the same.

        • Michael

          “the fact of the matter is that they’re still developing high-quality (albeit low-replay-value) content for the game” and that’s supposed to be you making sense? That’s like buying a glamorous paper plate

          • Right, because content with great story but low replay value definitely has no place. Undertale disagrees with you, but you can think that if you want. Just don’t be surprised if I don’t take you seriously.

  • Bobfish

    I can’t imagine that we’ll get a meaningful companion back with the next chapter, given the nature of the proposed content. The alliance alert is going to be someone we largely don’t care about.

    So, that means for many of the favorite companions we’re going to have to wait until season two, maybe even later?

    Really disappointed with that.

    • Troy foster

      PRESS ONE BUTTON !!!!!!! JEEZZ

      • Your comment was such a contribution to the conversation, so glad you decided to post it.

    • Darth Ji’inx

      Aside from Guss, the only remaining recruitment missions are for Zenith and Skadge/Rusk (yes, Skadge is killable 😉 ).

  • Biofail

    “EA Star Wars Panel – Sat July 16 from 7-8 pm GMT. Will be livestreamed. Will be making some announcements here, you will want to tune in.”

    tune in for more solo content!

  • Sick of EA sell to Disney!

    “Character slots – We know one of the issues that was raised are players who are at the current character slot maximum. With our maintenance next week we will be increasing the server maximum by 10.”

    Yes but you’re still making everyone BUY those extra slots at 450cc a pop, even Subscribers! Why should I be punished for already having 14 lvl 65’s all at max crafting and geared to at least 208 on my main server? SELL swtor to Disney EA, you suck!

    • Kaliyaa

      You’re pretty delusional if you think Di$ney would be more generous. The price for Disneyland tickets goes up every six months these days. Plus they are the ones that dissolved Lucas Arts and last I heard, gave EA exclusive contract to the license. And you think HK rewards are bad? Di$ney are masters at reusing OLD art. They would probably just slap mouse ears on old costumes and call it a reward.

      • Vladislav

        And that would be more interest then HK deco… Rakata gear with Mouse ears…

        • umbramuffins

          Since when did EA make and produce SWTOR?

    • Um…. EA should sell SWTOR to Disney? You are so utterly clueless about how this stuff works. Seeing people talk about companies does not suddenly make you an expert on them, or even SOMEWHAT knowledgeable. Disney is not a game development company. If you want new content, EVER, you would *not* want them to sell the game to Disney. Furthermore, Disney is the one who gave EA exclusive rights to make Star Wars games. Your suggestion is so backwards and dillusionally idiotic I’m struggling to comprehend how you can possibly be this wrong.

    • Rondowar

      Nobody is forcing you, or punishing you, grow up
      Also, subs get more than 1 free slot every month, if you spend your free CC on cosmetics, you’re the only one to blame here
      (I’ve got 22 max lvl, 220-224 on all, maxed out all crafting, and multiple comps on ilvl50; work some more before trying to show off :P)
      Also, you can do it on a different server, then transfer, it’s cheaper than 8 char slots

  • Bee

    No plans to returning the Nar Shaddaa event in the near future but we know it is a popular event and looking to add it back

    Uhm, popular event ? Cool explanation and excuse to recycle the next content bros!

    • Jeremy Carey

      Lol I thought the same thing

  • Vordork

    Hi guys, I bought a digital starter pack code from origin and when I try to redeem it on the swtor site i get this error message:An error has occurred while trying to process your request. Do you know why is this?

    • Snitch

      Usually means too much traffic. Try again later

      • Vordork

        okay thx for your answer 😀

      • Vordork

        I tried again today, but still can’t use it, still the same error message.

        • Rondowar

          Contact support, dulfy isn’t the place for this

  • Fuzzypaw

    having bind on pickup is crazy. how about a bind to account until it is put on or modified, then bound to that character? My commando doesn’t need a dress or any of that other crap that jedi wear!

    • Darth Ji’inx

      That would be like BoL switching to BoE. I don’t think that would work mechanically. Personally, I think that it would work if the armor boxes were BoL, but the armors were BoE. However, they said that wasn’t as simple as it sounds. Maybe the box and its contents share their binding rules??

      • Rint

        They said that, but what about the legacy bound crystals we got awhile back? Those unlock in collections. This is nothing more than a lazy dev team not wanting to add the BoL versions to the collections interface so that the BoE and BoL items are both present in there.

        • Darth Ji’inx

          Maybe the BoL crystals were different because each listing in Collections was for one item. Perhaps it wouldn’t work the same way for a set of items?

        • Kaliyaa

          Musco specifically said that the issue was that if them made them legacy it would conflict with the original versions of the items. So if you had Tulak Hordes chest already and then you open up a DvL pack and get his helm, they would not acknowledge each other for unlocking purposes which is a problem. The crystals you refer to are single items. it does not require other items in a set to unlock so the problem isnt there.

          • Rint

            Each item has a database id number, creating a different Collections entry with the different ID numbers would not conflict. SQL 101. I’m sure the people complaining about missing 1 piece of the Tulak Horde set and the legacy not unlocking that would be much smaller than the people who are pissed as shit that they are getting rewards that are useless to them on the character that is getting them. My point still stands, this is nothing but lies and lazy programming.

            • This. It’s sad that so few people actually understand how right this post is. But then, I suppose I wouldn’t expect any more out of an gaming community *rolleyes*

            • Rondowar

              It’s not the item ID that conflicts..
              The problem lies in the collections unlocking code
              For some reason BW finds it hard to allow mixing of items with different binding states.
              I’d only know if it’s reasonable, if I knew some more details on how they implemented the collections feature
              Bit of a hasty conclusion, and if you really thinks it’s only a matter of creating another row in their database? I’ll be nice and not comment on that 🙂

              There have been quite a few ideas in the comments that’d work though
              The lockboxes being BoL is my favorite, and should be easy enough (mechanically possible too, as its been done before)

              • Rint

                The problem as I see it is that they know our little bitchy community would complain if someone got the upper armor from a cartel pack and the lower and sup from the BoL shit and would then complain that they couldn’t unlock the set. Perfectly reasonable complaint but they could fix that easy in a future after the event ended SQL script. The solution is create a separate entry for the BoL stuff then run a script to move the entries created for those entrys to the old entries. SQL is not complicated. I did something similar for a radio stations automation system to move the media id numbers around for a client.

              • Rondowar

                “they could fix that easy in a future after the event ended SQL script.
                The solution is create a separate entry for the BoL stuff then run a
                script to move the entries created for those entrys to the old entries”
                what exactly are you trying to do in that script?
                if I understand it right (it’s 2:30 am here, so big chance I’m too sleepy for this :P) your idea is to basically create 2 versions of the item, 1 BoL, 1 BoE
                the BoE already exists, and BoL would replace the current BoP
                and then do something with the BoL version to “move those entries to the old entries”
                I’m confused with what you mean, replace the entry? merge them?
                how would it then look ingame? would you have legacy items mixed with BoE items unlocking a collections set? or would your legacy items get converted to bound after the event/after running the script?

                as I see it, the problem doesn’t lie in the database, but in the code which implements the unlocking of items in collection (which is also why a simple sql script probably won’t solve much/anything)

                it seems that they can’t apply the unlocking code to different items with different unlock states for some reason
                they currently can’t check for example if either a BoL chest and/or a bound chest exists on your current toon
                in extremely simple code this would be a matter of simple adding an OR statement inside their checks, but obviously it’s more complicated than this (since saying multiple times that it’s more complicated than people think, is harder than using that simple fix)

              • Rondowar

                and yeah, the lockboxes aren’t working great, but most is gonna be fixed tomorrow

              • Darth Ji’inx

                I got that Sion box as well. His set doesn’t have a helm or bracers. I’m assuming this single piece was in a box because that’s how the armor pieces are delivered for this pack.

  • Dave Vincent’s Perm

    They admitted that something wasn’t ‘working as intended’ that’s enough for me.

  • Barlo

    We have worked hard in the past year to try to offer rewards to veteran players and subscribers such as Legendary Status, monthly sub rewards, etc

    BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHGAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    yeah, Because those HK-55 themed shit and a “legendary” staus is realy useful. Just Like Legacy level 50.

    • Purre

      Yeah that was another slap to the face, 50% of the ppl dont know what that icon is and the other 50% dont give a shit lol

      I would trade that icon and all the rewards for getting all the classes and crew skills retro.

  • Terry G Roberts

    So you are thinking about adding a terminal to give us back lost companions after we killed them off… Whats the point of killing them off in the first place then?

    • Darth Ji’inx

      It will probably be the existing terminal in the Alliance Base on Odessen.

      This is good because we can reclaim a Rank 50 Influence Companion we were using for crafting, as an example. Also, it gives us the option to reclaim a companion if we just decide we’d rather have it back later on. It’s optional, meaning you can keep them dead/exiled for the sake of immersion, but you still have the option to reclaim them if you change your mind. It’s a win, win 🙂

      • Terry G Roberts

        I know its optional, but I wanted actual choices that would affect the story, not kill/exile a companion and you can bring them back because why not. If you wanted the companion back later on you should have thought about that before killing them lol.

        • Unoshi

          well, when did choices truly mattered or affect the story? i mean

          let Lana kill the zakuul knight or not, he still ends up dead, his partner still comes after you. and a lot more similar choices

          so expecting choices to truly matters…. yeah doubtful

          I remember them saying it before KoFTE launches. then have 9 chapters later they come with this in one of their streams

          “We will make choices really matter this time” like oh… guess we should believe it this time.

          • Darth-Robin

            i stopped believing it when the choice *cough* to let lana die or not regarding valkie and his power and seeing that she survives either way
            i actually thought she was gonna die but noooooooooooooooooooo doesnt happen

          • Terry G Roberts

            I remember when they said your choices will matter. Then when Chapter 10 was about to come out they were like ok now your choices will matter.

            • Unoshi

              i know right, i read that and was like wait what….

            • Shawn Hargrave

              choices cannot matter when you have other people involed it affects the galaxy and game in general that only works in the old kotors but hey plenty of stupid people to fall for this shit so lolz

          • ZapTheSheep

            Your choice to continue to give money to this shit company that doesn’t care about you does matter.

            • Unoshi

              who said i give money? go do your i-hate-this-game-so-much-ill-bash-bash-people-for-playing-it somewhere else

        • Rondowar

          Bringing companions back has 0 impact on the story
          What you want is that your choices affect other gameplay (crafting and solo fights)
          Your choices matter to the story just as much/little pre-console as post-console

        • Kaelin

          It’s better late then never, but your “If you wanted the companion back later on you should have thought about that before killing them lol.” is invalid, you don’t have much of choice with Scorpio for example

      • Terry G Roberts

        Lol if you wanted to keep your level 50 companion then maybe they should have thought of that before killing off that companion. You don’t reward stupid.

        • Rondowar

          Explain to me how to prevent Scorpio from being gone

          The tradeoff is story/roleplaying vs gameplay
          If you don’t care about the story while crafting, this console is great

  • Kaelin

    “Story Companions – With Fallen Empire we wanted the story to really have teeth and you can lose companions. We are looking for a way to resolve this by adding a terminal that allow you to call back any companion you lost through the KOTFE storyline hopefully by Chapter 16 (except for Darth Marr/HK-55).”
    No Marr=No care

    • Darth Ji’inx

      The only reason I can think of with Marr is that he was meant to be temporary. Most of the other companions you can lose (kill/exile/reject) can be kept depending on your choices. Even though you lose SCORPIO either way, she wasn’t a temporary one chapter companion like Marr. That’s the only reasonable explanation I could see for not including Marr.

      • Kaelin

        I think so too. Shame on them for making me hope, since we can get influence with him in story quest. Thats why I`m keeping him on my 2nd favorite character

        • Darth Ji’inx

          I used my free 60 to make a Malgus lookalike. He will keep Marr 🙂

      • Don Loco

        Ah lovely. All the companion gifts I gave her and the time taken to raise her influence/affection were totally well spent….NOT. Yet one more reason to continue through this disaster they claim as wonderful.

        • Darth Ji’inx

          With her added to the terminal, you’ll get her back. It’s only a temporary loss. Just wait 3 more weeks.

  • Jinn Kazama

    sooooo i get some awesome Jedi chest piece… on my operative. Niiiiice, this will look great on my Jedi alt! Now all i have to do is spend a few million on the GTN to buy the rest of the set… so that i can spend 240CC to unlock it for my account?
    Realllyyy????
    Working as intended? Or they forgot how the game works?

    Option 1:
    Simplest solution I can think of. Make the LvD reward cubes Legacy. When you open a cube and see something you want on another toon, don’t extract the item. Take any items ya want from the cube and then mail it.
    ok now damage control for all of us who already received the awards. Re-reward however many new and improved legacy cubes we should have earned.

    Option 2:
    Make a LvD tab in collections with single pieces able to be unlocked at reasonable CC prices (10 or less per piece)

    Option 3:
    LvD cubes only drop full armor sets

    • Whitedragon

      Do you mean DvL?

      • Yes, because we all know that D is the better side here. <3

        • Puff

          Are you that cute girl in your pic?

          • I’m a boy, but thanks for the compliment ^_^

            • Guest

              That’s really not a compliment, unless you want to look like a girl in which case you should have just said something like yes I’m the “girl” in the pic.

              • Oh, no, I meant that he called me cute. 🙂

              • Fred Garvin

                Oh, shut up.

    • Ossy

      It is working as *they* intended. They don’t care weither you like it or not. They only care for whatever extra Cash this can generate.

      Squeezing that lemon by whatever means necessary.

      – Making new toons in tandem with the BOP items makes spending CC for Collections unlocks almost mandatory.
      – Whilst people usually have most the character slots they have already in use, It necessitates the purchase of additional characterslots in order to participate.

      Alternatively; Playing on another server will not only handicap you towards completing the event. But might also require Server transfers later in order to move some items.

      – If you’re not careful, you’ll end with LvD packs on different toons. This *can* be a problem because, imagine you get (EG);

      ~ Revan Reborn’s Upper and Lower Setboxes on your Smuggler.
      ~ Revan Reborn’s Supplementary Setbox on another Toon, your Jedi Knight, Bounty Hunter, whatever.

      -> This will NOT unlock the set. All parts of a set need to be unlocked on 1 and the same character in order to be elligable for the collections unlock.

      – Evidenced from Datamining it seems quite likely that they will sell Cartel versions of the LvD packs at some point.
      I suspect somewhere near the end; “Limited Time Offer, Complete your sets now!” kind of thing…

      This whole event is nothing but an elaborate and lazy marketing trap….

    • Guest

      How is 10 CC or less per item reasonable? Aren’t the gold armor sets like 450 CCs? 60 CCs would be closer to what it would be per item.

  • abaddonsmummy

    So what defines light or dark character?
    Is it purely at the character creation screen where you choose sith or republic or is it in game choices that you make i.e full light or full dark alignment?

    • Seabass

      Alignment

    • Darth Ji’inx

      Light or Dark choices in cutscenes.

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  • R315r4z0r

    I would have loved to celebrate the 5th anniversary with my current characters. You know, the ones I’ve been playing for 5 years and actually have a reason to celebrate.

    • yourestupid

      who says you can’t?

      • R315r4z0r

        Bioware says I can’t. Since only toons made after the event started are eligible for this “celebration.”

        • Darth Ji’inx

          You’ll still get some of the rewards, including the companion, on your veteran characters after the event.

          • R315r4z0r

            No… you have to have a new character to earn ANY reward.

            Once the new character earns the reward, a handful of them are given to all the characters on my account. But it doesn’t change the fact that a new toon is required.

            • Darth Ji’inx

              I’m fully aware that you have to have a new character. I’m saying that some of the rewards you can earn with a new character will be available to your current characters. Getting event rewards could be considered celebrating, meaning your current characters could be celebrating in this way. I’d say that’s better than nothing.

  • Mister-giggles

    So in other words, go ahead and complete the DS vs LS Tier requirements but DO NOT open the crates until all of the bugs are worked out.

  • Seabass

    So we only get the rewards on the server on which we play this event… right? So if we have all our slots filled up, and want our characters to own these sets (without having to transfer servers), we’re FORCED to buy new character slots? So who exactly is celebrating here? Us, or EA?

    • Whitedragon

      We have to buy something!!!

    • Unoshi

      The packs and XP gear we get on that server every other reward that gets granted at the end of event will be send to all chars old and new regardless server

    • Darth Ji’inx

      The companion, pet, 2 armor sets, and 2 vehicles will be mailed to ALL of your characters after the event.

      Note: 1 armor set & 1 vehicle out of the 2 above are for the Legendary Level.

      • Indy

        which two armor sets? Not the xp boost one right?

        • Darth Ji’inx

          Correct, the Victorious Pioneer (XP set) will not be mailed, but the Victorious Trailblazer and Victorious Titan will be mailed.

          • Indy

            Thank you

    • Shawn Hargrave

      their celebrating that theyve proven theres enough stupid people to keep falling this shit im surprised they havent charged cc for air supply in tor for your toons lolz

      • Whitedragon

        D’oh!

  • Fred Garvin

    Truth…

  • Michael

    I for one are still very offended by the way the devs talked down to us on the last stream. As usual they didn’t acknowledge any questions that didn’t fit thier propaganda agenda. I had to make a third twitch account because Taint (thats right you are a taint) blocked me an hour before the stream started. I was trying to be as respectful as possible while speaking out about thier censorship of players that don’t fanboi it all over the place. If the devs need some big boy pants before the next stream ill gladly supply them with some.

    • Shawn Hargrave

      why do think so many carebears play tor? LOL ive argued with them at the comic con before in person you got a bunch of carebears with rockstar/messiah complexes who think they made a wow killer lol. Its so sad tor could have really been something /smh

  • Steen

    Don’t advance beyond chapter 1 of KOTFE. All you have is Marr as companion. This is the ‘trick’ of keeping him around.

  • Darth Ji’inx

    You don’t complete Chapter I 😉

  • John Lund

    Naturally, can’t have Marr back! That would only make me too happy! Talk about a wasted asset. Get get him for one chapter and that is all?!?

  • Darth Ji’inx

    That’s why I used my free 60 rather than my main characters to keep him 😉

  • Fred Garvin

    This game is on auto-pilot from here on out. The cycle will be 6-8 months of episodic content in 30-45 minute chunks, a dead Fall period, half-assed “group” content, recycled events, and a push to remain profitable by keeping ppl subbed and buying CM items. Each “expansion” will kick off around the yearly SW film release to help pull in a fresh batch of new players. It’s working as intended right now. Doubt they’d risk changing their strategy; they’d rather just shut the game down.

    • Yeah, their plans for SWTOR are truly pathetic.

  • Julian

    Can confirm from dev at a local Austin bar. Dark side companion already made with voice acting completed. He is one of the many BW employees who hates EA, but he wouldn’t say if the whole thing is “staged.” His language and attitude implies that this event’s light vs dark is actually worthless. Dark side is going to be the companion no matter what. Happy hunting

    • MTCason

      Riiiight, just happened to meet a dev in a bar? Try harder if your aim is to troll.

      • Julian

        this bar is where a few of them go at end of work week

        I’m not the only one who has reported shit from them at this spot.

        Dark side companion already decided. Sorry to break it to you bud

        • Michael

          What bar?

    • Fred Garvin

      #conspiracy

    • Guest

      Can confirm from dev at a local Austin bar, the Dark side comp will be the last new content. He said they will announce the undercover project BW has been working on next month. Star Wars Galaxy II !!! It’s the reason there has been very little content in the past couple years, all employees except a skeleton crew have been transferred. The game will be released in time for Ep VIII.

      Of course this is all made up just like your crap. How may people will read past Star Wars Galaxy II I wonder?

    • Michael

      God i hope it was Taint. I’d shoot myself if i had to spend 5 minutes listening to Erdick talking about how choices matter. Or how the story that i spacebar through is so great an worth replaying 100 times over

  • MSC

    “Companions – Without being spoilery, we have received feedback regarding the impact of Companions leaving via story and the time/money that has been put into them. We are looking at how to solve this issue in the future.”

    I have to say this is what annoyed me most after returning from a few months break. I worked through all the latest chapters and what was my reward? I lost my highest level companion (50). I lost all the time and resources I put into her. I now also have two useless REAL MONEY ITEM skins for her.

    What a fucking joke. So they are allowed to reach into my pockets and take back items I spent real money on?

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