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SWTOR 5.0 Virulence Sniper PvE Guide by Veldix

SWTOR 5.0 Virulence Sniper PvE Guide by Veldix. Updated for 5.3


Intro to Virulence Sniper

Hi, I’m Veldix/Veldoodle, a nightmare raider who plays mainly on the Harbinger server (5.0 killed all of my alts. FeelsBadMan). I am a member of <Failure> and do a majority of my progression raiding with them. I am a newer member to the nightmare raiding community, raiding only since last February. In 4.0 I cleared all 8-man bosses with Failure and Shadow Council of the Ebon Hawk, all by hopping in Jay’s backpack (thx fam). I sometimes stream on twitch ( Feel free to drop by and ask any questions you have there or just comment on this guide.

5.0 Changes

Aside from the discipline path changes (which is pointless for me to cover in an endgame guide), the following are the only discipline/class changes in 5.0 that have affected virulence:

New Passive:

Toxic Surge – Weakening Blast applies Toxic Surge to the target, which causes X internal damage the next time the target takes damage from your Corrosive Grenade.

Renamed Passive:

Hew has been renamed to Decay

New Utilities:


Flash Bang and Maim grant Executioner, allowing your next Takedown within 6 seconds to be used regardless of the target’s remaining health and deal 15% additional damage.

Controlled ChaosPassive

For every target affected beyond the first, Diversion grants a charge of Controlled Chaos, increasing armor penetration by 15% per charge. This effect lasts 8 seconds.

Reinforcing RetreatPassive

Covered Escape heals you for 10% of your maximum health. Additionally, Evasion now lasts 5 seconds.

Counteroffensive SafeguardsPassive

When Ballistic Shield is activated you gain a charge of Counteroffensive Safeguards for each enemy inside your Ballistic Shield, up to 4. This effect lasts 20 seconds and each charge increases your damage reduction by 5%. In addition, while inside your Ballistic Shield, you heal for 3% of your maximum health every second and you are immune to being pulled or knocked back.

Merged Utilities:

New Utility Removed Utility
Stroke of GeniusPassive

Activating Cover Pulse makes the next Snipe or Lethal Shot activate instantly and increases your chance to resist Force and tech attacks by 20% for 6 seconds.


Countermeasures will also purge all movement-impairing effects when activated.

Lumbering ImpactPassive

Shatter Shot reduces the movement speed of the target by 50% for 10 seconds. In addition, when Flash Bang ends it leaves behind Flash Powder that reduces the target’s accuracy by 20% for 8 seconds.

Flash PowderPassive

Reduces target’s accuracy by 20% for 8 seconds after Flash Bang ends.

Reestablish RangePassive

Striking a target with Shiv Countermeasures purges all movement-impairing effects when activated and grants Reestablish Range, increasing your movement speed by 50% 75% for 3 6 seconds. Additionally, the final shot of Series of Shots and Penetrating Blasts knocks back the target if they are within 10 meters.


Countermeasures will also purge all movement-impairing effects when activated.

Hold Your GroundPassive

Reduces the cooldowns of Shield Probe and Cover Pulse by 5 seconds, and Escape by 30 seconds. In addition, when you exit cover you gain a Cover Screen that increases your ranged defense by 20% for 6 seconds.

Cover ScreenPassive

When exiting cover, you increase your ranged defense by 20% for 6 seconds.

Changed Utilities:

Calculated PursuitPassive

You gain 4 charges of Calculated Pursuit upon exiting cover, which reduces the energy cost of Overload Shot by 100%. allow Snipe to be activated while moving. Each use of Overload Shot Snipe consumes 1 charge, and consumption of the first charge triggers a 20 second rate-limit on this skill. This effect lasts up to 15 seconds but is also removed by consuming all charges or reentering cover. , but reentering cover removes the effect prematurely.


Reduces the cooldown of Imperial Preparation by 30 45 seconds and increases your damage reduction by 10%15% for 10 15 seconds after activating Imperial Preparation.

Vital RegulatorsPassive

While in cover, you heal for 1% 2% of your total health every 3 seconds.


Currently in all 240s except for armorings and relics, and my current stating is:

  • 6192 Mastery
  • 3285 Power
  • 1704 Crit
  • 1370 Alacrity
  • 733 Accuracy

I am not anywhere near BiS right now and cannot give a definitive gear setup that I will use, so I am recommending following Bant’s theory crafted numbers:

242 Gear

9748+-144 DPS @ 37.7 APM | 8205 Endurance | 6536 Mastery (1xC) | 3694 Power

1719 Critical (5xE, 4xA, 1xC) | 1532 Alacrity (4xE, 7xA) | 743 Accuracy (1xE, 3xA, Stim)

240 Gear

9365+-136 DPS @ 37.6 APM | 7881 Endurance | 6327 Mastery (2xC) | 3506 Power

1648 Critical (7xE) | 1466 Alacrity (2xE, 11xA) | 733 Accuracy (1xE, 3xA, Stim)

236 Gear

9071+-129 DPS @ 37.4 APM | 7741 Endurance | 6259 Mastery (1xA, 1xC) | 3424 Power

1602 Critical (1xE, 12xA, 1xC) | 1400 Alacrity (7xE) | 736 Accuracy (2xE, 1xA, Stim)

234 Gear

8610+-119 DPS @ 37.1 APM | 7440 Endurance | 6128 Mastery (Stim) | 3337 Power

1434 Critical (13xA, 2xC) | 1236 Alacrity (6xE, 1xA) | 760 Accuracy (4xE)

230 Gear

8294+-112 DPS @ 36.9 APM | 7167 Endurance | 5901 Mastery (Stim) | 3183 Power

1417 Critical (1xE, 11xA, 2xC) | 1182 Alacrity (6xE, 1xA) | 735 Accuracy (3xE, 2xA)


There are many utilities that are worth taking, and this section will cover the ones that I think have the most use or could be used in certain situations in operations. I usually spec into a 3/1/2/2 setup.


1849314209_1991484756 Ballistic Dampers: – See defensives section. It is a must take at all times.
3105164610_473058525 Snap Shot – Entering cover makes the next Snipe or Lethal Shot activate instantly. This effect cannot occur more than once every 6 seconds.Snap Shot allows you to front load your lethal shots, which helps with energy management. It also let’s you be a little more mobile.
3482625395_3507575059 Imperial Efficiency – Increases the damage dealt by Suppressive Fire by 25%.Take this on any fight where you are going to be using suppressive fire.
3533406657_3327671360 Calculated Pursuit – You gain 4 charges of Calculated Pursuit upon exiting cover, which allow Snipe to be activated while moving. Each use of Snipe consumes 1 charge, and consumption of the first charge triggers a 20 second rate-limit on this skill. This effect lasts up to 15 seconds, but reentering cover removes the effect prematurely.This utility simply allows us to be very mobile for a short period of time. However, Lethal Shot will suffer from major push back with it. You can use this utility situationally.


3048784136_2671232944 Seek Cover – When Entrench ends or you leave cover while Entrench in active, you gain Seek Cover, which increases your movement speed by 50% and grants immunity to movement impairing effects. Lasts 6 seconds.Seek Cover is a personal favorite of mine. It lets you reposition much faster with entrench active so you spend less time out of cover.
730254179_3162454750 (1) Stroke of Genius- Activating Cover Pulse makes the next Snipe or Lethal Shot activate instantly and increases your chance to resist Force and tech attacks by 20% for 6 seconds.Mac brought this to my attention, and I must say he was right about this utility. Instant Lethal Shot is a nice thing to have in case you need to be mobile, and the resist chance for force/tech attacks can help healers out in certain situations


2325093148_925227914 Pillbox Sniper – Reduces the cooldown of Entrench by 15 seconds and Cover Pulse knocks targets back an additional 4 meters.The Entrench CD reduction goes great with the other recommended utility in this tier.
212096028_3978847422 Siege Bunker – Reduces all area effect damage taken by 60% while Entrench is active.Turns Entrench into a great defensive CD. Incredibly useful for many fights.


265384158_3363115073 Defensive Safeguards – When Ballistic Shield is activated you gain a charge of Defensive Safeguards for each enemy inside your Ballistic Shield, up to 4. This effect lasts 20 seconds and each charge increases your damage reduction by 5%. In addition, while inside your Ballistic Shield, you heal for 3% of your maximum health every second and you are immune to being pulled or knocked back.This utility makes Ballistic Shield more OP than it already was. Take it.
2101654884_620665300 Deployed Shields – Reduces all damage taken while in cover by 5% and reduces the cooldown of Ballistic Shield by 30 seconds.The 5% damage reduction in cover is very helpful, as is the 30 second CD reduction on Super Ballistic Shield.
3264589436_169840693 Controlled Chaos – Diversion grants a charge of Controlled Chaos for every target initially affected beyond the first. Each charge increases armor penetration by 10%. This effect lasts for 8 seconds.This has the potential to allow you some massive AoE damage while providing some defensive help for your group. Only take this on heavy AoE fights.

Abilities and Passives

Defensive Abilities

3858926688_731083593 (1) Shield Probe (30 second CD): Summons a probe droid that projects a shield around the Agent, absorbing a moderate amount of incoming damage for 10 seconds.This is very useful for blocking some incoming damage that you know is coming (like heave on Revan)
3039792973_3987142852 Entrench (45 second CD with right utilities): Entrenches you into cover, becoming immune to all controlling effects. Only grants protection while in cover. Lasts 20 seconds.Entrench is an incredibly useful tool. If you take the right utilities, it can be used to mitigate huge amounts of AoE damage, as well as prevent knockbacks/stuns.
2179446386_482411044 (1) Evasion (1 minute CD): Increases your chance to dodge melee and ranged attacks by 200% for 3 seconds. Does not break Stealth.Evasion can be a very situational defensive. You can completely avoid some attacks, but others it do nothing. Try to learn where it can and can’t be used to effectively mitigate .
4027936044_1761461114 Covered Escape (20 second CD): Roll forward 18 meters, purging movement-impairing effects and landing crouched behind cover. While rolling, your chance to dodge attacks is increased by 100%.Covered Escape is an amazing defensive. While it can be used offensively due to corrosive mine being attached to it, it should primarily be used to mitigate all of the damage of a single attack or to get out of damage quickly.
2596789697_2736808133 Imperial Preparation (3 minute CD): Immediately finishes the active cooldowns on Evasion, Countermeasures, Shield Probe, Cover Pulse, Entrench, and Covered Escape.Our defensive were already great, but now we can have even more of them! Imperial Prep. resets the CD’s of the 4 defensives I listed above and can allow you to mitigate so much damage in a short window of time. Healers will love you.
2101654884_620665300 (1) Ballistic Shield: Deploys a ballistic shield that spans 10 meters around you, reducing the damage taken by all allies that remain inside by 20%. Lasts 20 seconds.Rather than getting an offensive raid buff, snipers got a defensive one. This shield is absolutely amazing for phases when a group is taking massive amounts of damage. With the Counteroffensive Safeguards utility, you can be pretty much unkillable (or at least until the pvp players get it nerfed). Drop this shield on council burn and you are mitigating 20% for everyone else and 40% for yourself while healing yourself 3% every second. It can also prevent knockbacks, which is useful on brontes.
1849314209_1991484756 Ballistic Dampers: absorbs 30% of the damage dealt by incoming attacks. This effect cannot occur more than once every 1.5 seconds. Ballistic Dampers can only be gained once every 6 seconds.This is a passive utility, but it is worth mentioning here because it is so useful and you should always have this utility and is one of your best defensives. Make sure you are constantly reentering cover to keep them up. If you are specced into snapshot, Ballistic Dampers will refresh when it does as well.

Key Passives

115639506_3181161847 Corrosive Dispersion: Corrosive Grenade spreads your Corrosive Dart to the targets it damages, as long as it damages at least one target already affected by your Corrosive Dart.Finally, DoT spreading! Unfortunately this is only a 4 meter radius, but if there are 4+ targets this is great to take advantage of.
137576510_345989627 Decay: Increases the damage dealt by Snipe, Lethal Shot, Series of Shots, and Cull by 5%. Additionally, when Corrosive Grenade and Corrosive Dart end they are replaced by a lingering version for 5 seconds that will only deal damage when Cull deals damage.
1172017248_1435774430 Lethal Purpose: Reduces the cooldown of Adrenaline Probe by 15 seconds. In addition, critical hits with poison effects restores 2 energy.
4055875428_3076782913 Devouring Microbes: Increases the damage dealt by poison effects by 15% on targets below 30% of max health. In addition, if a target dies with Weakening Blast, it finishes the cooldown of Weakening Blast.
1750894533_3150754376 Lethal Takedown: Damage dealt by Cull has an 80% chance to trigger Lethal Takedown, which finished the cooldown of Takedown and makes your next Takedown usable on a target with any health level.
3368086149_3768121512 Corrosive Mine: Increases the duration of your Ballistic Shield by 5 seconds. In addition, when you activate Covered Escape, you detonate a Corrosive Mine that deals X internal damage to all nearby enemies over the duration. Targets that remain within are additionally slowed by 70% for the duration. Lasts 8 seconds. Does not affect sleeping or incapacitated targets


The 5.0 Virulence rotation is still that same as it was in 4.0 and 3.0:


*Broken down by GCD and NOT ability activated, hence Cull and Series of Shots take up 2 consecutive CGD’s

*Precasts are ideally Orbital Strike > (wait .5 seconds) Lethal Shot (hard casted), but if you cannot get both off (because tanks are evil) just try to precast lethal shot to proc your set bonus.

*Filler should be either Lethal Shot or Rifle Shot/Roll depending on energy.

*Replace Series of Shots with 2x Lethal Shot or Lethals Shot + Roll (if on dummy)

*Lazed Target should be used before all other precasts

Core Rotation


*Broken down by GCD and NOT ability activated, hence Cull and Series of Shots take up 2 consecutive GCD’s

*Replace Lethal Shots with Rolls/Rifle Shots when you are low on energy.

Special Note: I delay dots by 1 GCD to get 1 extra tick of weakening blast in in the first row. This is probably very unnecessary and feel free to apply dots in the first two GCD’s instead

This rotation assumes 100% uptime on a boss, which is indeed very possible in a lot of situations, but not all the time. When we do not have 100% uptime, we resort to a priority system:

  1. Keep Corrosive Dart + Corrosive Grenade or their Decay (Hew) effects up

  2. Weakening Blast (Almost always used the GCD before Cull)

  3. Cull

  4. Takedown

  5. Lethal Shot (under Weakening Blast)

  6. Series of Shots (if not under Weakening Blast)

  7. Covered Escape (situational)

  8. Rifle Shot

You should never delay a higher priority ability except under rare circumstances (such as precasting on the Kell Dragon on Styrak or Kephess 2.0: Kephess Harder).

Special notes on some of these priorities:

2. If you use Weakening Blast in the GCD right before Cull, you can fit the first tick of the following the Cull within the WB window, resulting in an extra boost to damage

6. Series of Shots should be replaced by 2x Lethal Shots if you have excess energy during raid, which often happens if you are double dotting. On a dummy and on a few fights, you can replace it with Lethal Shot + Covered Escape, but it is often going to be more efficient to do this on a 4x Lethal Shot Block instead.

7. Covered escape should only be used if you do not need it to mitigate any damage or quickly move out of something soon.

As far as energy regen abilities like Target Acquired (refunds 15 energy with the set bonus) and Adrenaline Probe (recovers 50 energy), you should generally use them when they are available to use more Lethal Shots and Takedowns. You should hold these if you are coming up on a burn phase, however


Multi-Dotting is a great dps increase when it can be used. It not only increases your DPS but also makes your energy management easier due to dot crits refunding energy. Fights that allow for effective multi-dotting include bosses such as Sword Squadron, Firebrand and Stormcaller, Master and Blaster, Coratanni, Brontes, Council, and a few others. When multi-dotting, the rotation looks like this:

2 target multi-dotting:

3 target multi-dotting (Pretty much exclusive to Dread Council):

You should use all of your normal attacks (like WB, Cull, Lethal Shot, Takedown) on your main target.

DoT Spreading

You should try to spread your DoTs whenever possible onto targets that actually need to be damaged. For example, DoT spreading from Styrak to Brontes on Council phase 2 you should do, but on dread guards you should not do so (at least on purpose) except to Ciphas on 1st phase. You should be able to replace a Takedown or Lethal Shot in the rotation with Corrosive Grenade to do so, or you could slightly delay Corrosive Grenade if it won’t delay a Cull. Sometimes it works out that you will dot spread without needing to change the rotation at all. Be happy when this happens.

AoE Rotation

When you have the ability to AoE, you can do massive damage. Your priorities will depend on much health the enemies have/how will die. If they will die relatively quickly, you should just use a Suppressive Fire or Covered Escape if you don’t need it soon. If they will live for a bit, you should

Spread DoTs > Suppressive Fire > Covered Escape > Rifle Shot

Spread your corrosive dart of of your main target with corrosive grenade if possible, otherwise just do corrosive dart > corrosive grenade on a pack of ads to spread. If there are more than 4 enemies and you are taking the new Controlled Chaos utility, you should throw a diversion right before suppressive firing. Sometimes we can precast as well, and if that is the case (like in Corruptor Zero), you should precast Orbital Strike.

Misc Tips

Regarding Energy Management

Use snapshot if you will come out of a Cull with high energy (like 95%+) so you don’t cap/stay capped on energy. Try to never go below 60% energy unless you have an energy cooldown to instantly bring it back over.

Lazed Target Use

In general you should use Lazed Target should be used on cooldown. However, you should hold it if you need it for an upcoming burn phase such as on Brontes.

Clipping Your Channels

You can clip your Cull and Series of Shots channels to squeeze out an extra bit of dps. You can clip and 0.0 or 0.1 seconds remaining and still have all 4 hits of each hit. This helps your DPS in two ways: 1) decreases the time it takes to do the same abilities, and 2) helps to make sure you get the first tick of a second cull under Weakening Blast.

Precasting on an in Combat Target

The key place this is important is on Brontes. Since you are already in combat, you can precast your dots on her before she is damageable. I have two precast methods that are dependant on whether I have the energy for orbital strike or if it is off cooldown. My timing for precasting on Brontes is as follows:

(Time Left on Channel / Time into Cast) -because the initial immunity phase is her channeling and when shields are active it is a cast, I am listing both times here.

With Orbital:

(7.4 / 2.6) Corrosive Dart

(6.0 / 4.0) Corrosive Grenade

(4.6 / 5.4) Orbital Strike

(2.7 / 7.2) Weakening Blast

(1.3 / 8.6) Lethal Shot (Casted, not instant)

Without Orbital:

(5.6 / 4.4) Corrosive Dart

(4.2 / 5.8) Corrosive Grenade

(2.8 / 7.2) Weakening Blast

(1.4 / 8.6) Lethal Shot (Casted, not instant)

And from there I go into a Cull and usually a 3x Lethal Shot + Takedown Block.


Playing Virulence In Raid

Virulence is a viable spec on every fight if you can play it right, although it is definitely less ideal on certain fights. This list has been created as a recommendation for when to play each of the sniper specs (subject to nerfs and buffs).

Note: This list is no longer viable due to the class changes in 5.3. Will be redone at a later date.

Explosive Conflict

  • Zorn and Toth: Virulence
  • Firebrand and Stormcaller: Virulence
  • Colonel Vorgath: Virulence
  • OG Kephess: Virulence

Terror From Beyond

  • Writhing Horror: Virulence
  • Dread Guards: Virulence
  • Operator IX: Virulence or Marksmanship
  • Kephess II: Return of the Meme: Virulence
  • Terror from Beyond: Virulence

Scum and Villainy

  • Darude, Sandstorm: Engineering
  • Titan 6: Any spec works
  • Thrasher: Virulence or Marksmanship
  • Ops Chief and his Skittles Squad: Marksmanship
  • Olok the Shadow: Virulence
  • Cartel Warlords: Virulence
  • StyrAIDS™: Virulence if NiM, Marksmanship if HM

Dread Fortress

  • Nefra: Virulence
  • Draxus: Any spec works
  • Grob’thok: Virulence or Engineering
  • Corruptor Zero: Any spec works
  • Brontes and Mini Kephess: Virulence

Dread Palace

  • Bestia: Virulence
  • Tyransasaurus Rekt: Virulence (or Engineering if you’re feeling gutsy and want to run with the melee like a champ)
  • Calphayus: Virulence or Engineering
  • Raptus:Marksmanship
  • Council: Virulence


  • Sparky: Virulence
  • Bulo: Virulence
  • Torque: Marksmanship
  • Master and Blaster: Virulence
  • Coratanni: Virulence

Temple of Sacrifice

  • Malaphar the Savage: Virulence
  • Sword Squadron: Virulence
  • The Underlurker: ANy spec works
  • Revanite Commanders: Marksmanship
  • Revan: Virulence

How to Be Great Raider

You can be able to put out fantastic numbers on a dummy and easy bosses, but none of it matters if you can’t execute mechanics. To be a good raider, you need to but mechanics ahead of DPS. The key to being the best is being able to execute mechanics while maintaining great DPS. Learn to be aware of the things that are happening around you and prepare for mechanics in advance. Know when you need to move and be prepared to save a few abilities or pop defensives in advance.


There are two types of “fluff”. The good kind is when Mercs/PT’s use pyro shield or Marauders use cloak of pain and stand in things to add some dps to the boss when healing isn’t an issue. The bad kind is when you damage adds that you never need to damage, like reaches on brontes are the pirates on bulo. Don’t be a bad fluffer.

Being Ahead of the Tanks

Make sure you know where your tanks are tanking the boss. When a tank decides to taunt a boss far away from you when you just activated a Cull, it FeelsBadMan. Make sure you know the tanking pattern that will be used to make sure you have as much uptime as possible.

Also, don’t compare yourself to the logs on parsely for every fight. Your dps is going to be heavily dependant on the group composition for every fight. Lots of fights have AoE potential, and having a group of low AoE potential DPS allows you to get more AoE damage. There are only a few fights where RNG or Group composition will not have a large factor on dps.


Special thanks to people who have vastly helped me improved and learn:

Yolo for his original Virulence guide that I learned from.

Cloake for being the first person to put me on a NiM team.

Tool for providing quality laughs when he said he taught me how to sniper.

Dongo for being an inspiration to be better.

My boy Jay for having the most comfortable backpack in the world.

And everyone in Failure that I run with.

By Dulfy

MMO guide writer and blogger. Currently playing and covering SWTOR, GW2, and TSW.

40 replies on “SWTOR 5.0 Virulence Sniper PvE Guide by Veldix”

DoT’s are abilities/attacks that do “Damage over Time”. In this case, Corrosive Dart and Corrosive Grenade.

In 4.0 we were running just a bit below 1k alacrity (993 afair or smth about that) so that with precise clipping first tick of next cull is still under WB (credit to Zahik for gearing and shit). Pretty sure still should be the case with 5.0.
On a fun note: in 4.0 lethal shot was about same dps (<0.5% difference) as takedown even over 30% and without WB, strictly due to it's internal damage part crits giving energy (of course aside from when only insta cast would fit under relic proc etc). Most boring rotation ever though 😀

Kephess II: Return of the Meme
Tyransasaurus Rekt
Brontes and Mini Kephess
Ops Chief and his Skittles squad
OG Kephess
I lol’d

Probably one of the best sniper guides ever done… I really appreciate you going the extra mile by talking about the multi dotting… advanced targeting ftw!!

could someone explain, what i’m doing wrong?
the first row of the core rotation ends with 2x cull (the green one),
what i cannot use, because of the CD.

the third row starts with 2x Series of Shots, same problem.

the sniper is just my alt and i played it as engineer in 4.0,
wanted to try something new.

From the subnote below the rotation: “*Broken down by GCD and NOT ability activated, hence Cull and Series of Shots take up 2 consecutive CGD’s”
In other words, those 2 culls in a row are actually just one cull, I displayed it like that because I personally find it helps more to display the rotation by Global Cooldowns rather than ability activated.

ah okay, i see.
i was a bit confused, because of that,
didn’t get, what you mean with that *text.
also a foreign language for me.

You are the reason I took time to finish levelig up my gunslinger. This guide was awesome and I’ve had so much playing this spec. I hope you make another one for gunslinger – dirty fighting so it’s a little easier to understand.

Keep up the good work!

IIRC, you only get that force/tech redux if you activate Evasion while in Cover. Still useful to have in the guide, but that’s something that doesn’t get stressed very often

in ops, is it worth doing the 2 cull rotation? i mean CD,CG Wwakening cull — SoS Takedown lethal cull takedowm, then repeat ?

It’s pretty unoptimal to do so, so i recommend against doing so intentionally. There will be times where you only get 2 culls in between dot application due to a loss of up time, and you should resort to a priority system at that point. So no, it isn’t worth it to intentionally do a 2-cull rotation.

can you give some tips on how to improve dps on specific bosses
like on bulo fight you can pop entrench on mass barrage,stuff like that

I’ve been playing Virulence since 4.0. Is there any reason to switch to Engi or MM or is Viru still beest overall for cranking dps?


dps is all up to the player. pretty much play what makes you happy cause in the end you will do more dps then you will if you play a spec you don’t know just cause it does more dps.

Not exactly true when talking about MM. Even when played perfectly, it can’t pass the harder dps checks. Engi and Viru are both fine in pretty much any fight though.

Actually, if you enjoy it, you will do your best and that often leads to better performance than a spec that is deemed ‘the best’ by elitists.

I followed this guide from another place by an elitist and it honestly feels wrong, i do worse with it than i do my own personal spec and yet, i am still told to spec ‘the best way’ *rolls eyes*.

Overall, if you enjoy it, you tend to do better at it.

Well, I play it pefectly and on some fights that are just “made” for MM I can even be top dps in the group. On most though, even if I try hard, my guildmate outdpses me with engineering every time, so for harder dps checks I always spec viru/engi.

I was wondering what were your stats in viru ? Because so far theorycrafting have proven to give way more alacrity than you should have so any idea how it works for sniper ?

It could be a nice guide if there would be an intro. No offense man but I dont care who you are, in which could you raid the most difficult raid. I want a guide and an Intro like that from Kitchen Sink on his Engineerung Sniper guide.

I actually love what they did to Virulence in 5.3. The damage output is still fair but it FEELS so much better. Takedown being used after every proc and not ignored half of the time like before – I always felt like this should be the way and spamming lethal shot instead felt wrong.

And oh my god, Lethal shot has a sound effect again! I know most people don’t care but that annoyed the hell out of me…

I used this guide for Gunslinger Dirty Fighting. For anyone else looking, to save some time, these are what I crossed the main abilities too, if it helps:

Corrosive Dart = Vital Shot
Corrosive Grenade = Shrap Bomb
Weakening Blast = Hemorrhaging Blast
Cull = Wounding Shot
Lethal Shot = Dirty Blast
Takedown = Quickdraw
Series of Shots = Speedshot

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