SWTOR CM Weekly Sales March 14 – 21

SWTOR CM Weekly Sales March 14 – 21

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  • Лев Сафаров

    Went to this link to check sound of this new mount, and it seems (sounds?) cool. Only price i think a bit high, since visually its not that impressive. At least its new model and not reskin.

    • AbnerDoon

      Yeah have to see it in game. Tried the preview window and it looked rough which is too bad the image looked cool. I was hoping it would be like the Vectron WGF Veteran.

  • Jonathan Doe

    It will be interesting to see how people react to the tuning price, after all if you want two for your dual wielder and two for master Ranos or Nico, you need to shell out 7200cc.

    • Tunings are not added to Collection?

      • Nope

      • Nick Emory

        Nope. Single item to use each time. Unlike dyes though, you can remove tunings and reuse.

    • Darth Twinge

      lightning tunings hit 250million credits on the BC GTN all the time. Im sure people would rather pay this 😛

    • Corwin

      Giving 2 tunings to a companion? Seriously?

  • wP0T, Proud ✓ᴰᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

    Mmm….tempted to build my CC funds for the tunings…

  • Genbo the Shandian

    THIS is what IT!!??
    YES!!!

  • Acher4

    Probably the best tuning 🙂

    That mount… my my, marvelous. :O

  • Rance

    MOAR CM CONTENT PLS!! I CAN’T NEVER HAVE ENOUGHHHH!!! /s

  • Zaitana

    i’m ok with the lightning tuning being on CM. but i think 1800 is too low. granted 7200 for the saber last week was ridiculously too high. maybe for these popular and rare items they should make the price half (maybe even 2/3) that of the hypercrates they are found in. some people buy a hypercrate and get 2 or 3. most hypercrates drop none. maybe incentivze both options. you can buy a hypercrate and gamble on the drop; or for half (2/3) that you can just buy the item and have done. that’s my two credits on the matter anyway.

    • Drivan

      Really?
      1800 CC is about $10 of real money. I honestly feel that more that $1-$2 worth of CC for any item is overpriced.

      • BM

        When the GTN price is 50mil plus, 1800 CC is reasonable. There is no reason to devalue items. If someone doesn’t want to buy it for the severely high price, they can just buy it from the GTN like most of us. As long as we have whales paying the high prices and selling the items to the rest of us for game credits, I have no problem with their pricing.

        • Reeberus

          On Jedi Covenant people list them in the 100-125m range… which is just crazy….With that sale, there will be on the GTN at around 5-10m, which makes more sense

          • Jonathan Doe

            Wouldn’t count on it, people ask the same for the Nathema Set than they do for gold pack sets, unless you’re fabulously lucky and get a set from a supercrate, the crate set is always going to be rarer and therefore more expensive if you’re doing thing logically, if logic was sold on the GTN it would cost billions not millions, that’s how rare it is in this game.

      • Naq

        I think some of the fans are so beaten and broken, they don’t see a one time use item that applies a glowy effect is something that should be on a faction vendor, or at least something you can replicate in collections, like crystals. I remember when these first came out, and Musco had the balls to straight up lie and say they were going to find other sources for things like this than the CM. But its been like 40 cartel market sales since then, so who would even remember that?
        I’ve not even unhappy with swtor for this, its a symptom of what we have let gaming become. All our games, cut to pieces and sold to us in tiny bits, made acceptable by mobile gaming drones, tricked into thinking anything virtual has any value.

        (EG, see below)

        • Jonathan Doe

          SWTOR is the worst offender of any MMO i’ve played, no other game sells armor in three different pieces, no other game as the ratio of gambling packs vs. direct sales this one has.

        • Paulo Gomes

          I could be wrong, but I think it was hinted that tunings could be, at some point, crafted. If I am wrong please be so kind as to correct me.

          Of course, not the ones from the CM. But I think throwing into the game a few tuning schematics that you could get THROUGH ACTUAL PLAYING would be a nice touch.

          Here’s hoping they will do so…

          • Shawn Hargrave

            Some year lol

          • Don Loco

            Yeah, they hinted at that then I suspect they discovered just how much money could be made by selling them direct. Pay a huge price for a one shot use vs being able to craft it for no real world money. We know what won obviously.

        • Reactionary Monarchist

          Modified Stockholm Syndrome and replacement for politics, sports, arts and sex. It would be quite endearing really if they weren’t trying to drag everyone down with them.

      • Ser JuJoo Guppy

        Actually closer to $20 isn’t it? Either way, ridiculously over priced. Under priced… wow, has BW made you its little puppet…

        • Drivan

          Actually I’m saying that the 1800CC in overpriced and that anything on the CM that would cost more than $1-$2 of real money is over priced?
          I am anything but a BW puppet…..

  • Disqus this

    Without a flair mechanic the Command corsair is kinda pointless.

  • Naq

    “A fool and his money are soon parted.”

    • Rance

      I see something in spanish, I have to upvote xD.

    • John Kosto

      No tauntauns on sale, wrong topic Naq

      • Rance

        Well, this time we have the reskinned version of the Eradicator set, that one was pretty popular among the kiddos who wanted to look as badass as the Siths on the trailer.

        • gog

          Not gonna lie, used that set a lot. It’s simple yet good looking. Then the Ravager’s Armor came out and the chest and belt on that set just looks so damn good.

      • Naq

        Paulo will be along shortly to explain I am sure : )

        • RandomFan

          nah, the message came across clear, not a bad translation

        • Don Loco

          I always heard that as “A fool and his money will soon be partying.”

  • Ejoy the Silence

    This is like Apple iTunes selling one song for 5.99; you just make more money selling 100 songs für 0.99 than selling 3 for 5.99.

  • ghostbeetle

    anybody got a video of the corsair or the lightning tuning?

  • william.gurganus@mail.ru

    I’ve profited $104k previous year by working from my house a­n­d I did that by wo­rking part-time f­­o­­r 3+ hrs a day. I’m using work opportunity I found online and I am so excited that I was able to earn such great money. It’s so beginner friendly and I’m just so grateful that I found out about it. This is what i did… http://gee.su/uBX7h

  • abaddonsmummy

    Wow some nice stuff here on direct sale.
    Always wanted a lightning tuning or two but gtn prices were crazy, so i’ll be picking up few.
    I’m a speeder-a-holic and I like these narrow designs purely so i’m not blocking out half the screen while i’m doing daily’s etc.

    • Лев Сафаров

      You got that right about speeders.

    • gog

      We have similar taste in speeders then. The Aratech ones are my personal favorites, lots of different colors and skins and they just look so right.

      • Shawn Hargrave

        Meanwhile in swg emus you can have 2 or more people in a speeder something to to date still cant do

        • gog

          WoW have had mounts for 2+ people for years as well.

          • Reactionary Monarchist

            What a novel idea, they even add content once in awhile.

      • Kubrickian
        • gog

          But of course!

      • abaddonsmummy

        The Aratechs are nice but look a bit daft on body type 3 or 4 (which I have a few of) so I like the slightly bigger versions like this style and the Tion class.
        For smaller alts I just love Razalons 🙂

        • gog

          Valid point, all but one of my characters are body type 1 or 2 for which the aratech class work a lot better. It doesn’t fit the bt 3 character that well. Tion are cool as well, but the animal mounts are also pretty nice. For some reason all my force users end up with animals while the other 4 classes have vehicles.

    • Reactionary Monarchist

      Of course you will, I have few hundred pounds of organic trash for you, it has BioWare logo on it, you can share it with your pal Dying hard.

  • james-graves@mail.ru

    I profited 104 thousand bucks in last 12 months by freelancing from my house a­n­d I did that by wo­rking part time f­o­r few h each day. I used a money making model I found online and I am thrilled that I was able to earn so much money on the side. It’s very newbie friendly a­n­d I’m so blessed that I found out about it. Check out what I do… http://gee.su/SIA6t

  • Diehard fan

    This sale much better. Cant blame BW for previous fail with saber, its new to them – work fast with feedback. I think they`ll learn to adapt to market and get more from DS items like they originaly claimed. Will definitely get the speeder… off GTN =)

    • Reactionary Monarchist

      I think I have few hundred pounds of organic trash for you, it has BioWare logo on it, shell we say $50 000 starting price?

  • Zasz

    I bought the unstable peacemaker lightsaber because it looks so awesome. But the sound sucks. Now I look at this tuning and think “I could use it for my ziost lightsaber or thexans lightsaber. It would look awesome and I get great sound effects that sound like actual lightsaber”. But I only have 700 CC. Im soooooo tempted to buy some…

  • Whitedragon
  • I bought three of the tunings. Also, EA sucks bla bla bla. I hope they all get eaten by sharks that have AIDS, etc. etc.

  • Tunings and Flair are the most usless things they have added to the game in a long, long time…..

    • Meelis S

      Shhh let all open their wallets, Bioware is desperate because this is only a start. They are trying to grab as much money they can. Lightsaber sells didnt work maybe this will 😀
      If it does they will put another item and then next and then next…

      • Kubrickian

        They probably have an established shut down date and realize they only have so many more weeks left. Even real life theme parks can put out a new roller coaster or multiple rides each year.

    • Diehard fan
      • Лев Сафаров

        O, i think its ice cube on left.

  • Musco

    Hello folks,

    Due to technical difficulties we are unable to release the new op boss Tyth this upcoming month. We encountered some bugs and have decided to push it back until this summer (late august), but worry not! The new packs will arrive on time, so gear up and be ready for this summer of excitement!

    – Your friends at BW Austin

    • Rance

      It wouldn’t surprise me if you were the real Musco.

      • Reactionary Monarchist

        All hail!

    • Ser JuJoo Guppy

      I give this <85% chance of being accurate.

  • Dr-Waffle The-Third

    AND THERE YOU HAVE IT. THE REAL REASON FOR WHY THEY WONT PUT TUNINGS IN THE COLLECTIONS.

    Sure, having tunings in collections would make a HELL of a lot of sense considering you can’t put it on other characters, and if you duel wield you will have to buy another one at a ridiculous price, but pfft, charging players $20 a piece for a single one isn’t scummy at all!

    And here’s another reason why i’m quitting this game once my sub ends! BRAVO BIOWARE.

    • Vincent van der Laan

      yes you can get lecacy saber with tunning i have a blaster 😛 the one from bounty hunter 😛 event

    • Diehard fan

      Dude, you can easily transfer a tuning via any legacy gear that supports tuning.

      Dont make a fuss out of nothing. Want to quit – go ahead, no one is stopping you. MMO RPG is a terrible addiction we all share, be a man – leave without a word.

      • Reactionary Monarchist

        Oh that’s a good one, mom’s basement dweller abusing dad’s credit card giving advice on manliness.

        • Reactionary Retard post above

          Why are you so angry with people who can afford to pay for games? Are you THAT poor?

          • Reactionary Monarchist

            Uhh, the genetic error with gland problems has another sock-puppet account!

            It would be almost flattering if you weren’t so easily triggered.

            And spending your mom’s welfare check on video games doesn’t make you wealthy.

    • abaddonsmummy

      Lol no you can transfer it for free with a legacy weapon,
      NO NEED FOR COLLECTION UNLOCKS TO PAY FOR.
      NOW WHERE IS MY CAPs lock, o yes there it is sorry about that 🙂

      • John Kosto

        So you will spend 30k credits every time you want to switch to an alt toon and transfer the tuning (you will have to remove it twice), and you’ll also get in the trouble of doing that before you log out and then log in with the next toon? Instead of just having it unlocked in collections and be able to use it on as many toons as you want? And if you have dual blasters you have to have two of these?

        Ridiculous…

        • Reactionary Monarchist

          Hehe, just for things like mummy dearest I hope BioWare turns the screws, bleed them dry. 30k credits nothing force them to pay $30 real cash, 300 CC per switch would be a nice compromise.

        • abaddonsmummy

          I can make 30k in ten minutes doing daily’s, surely better than spending real cash as was the op’s concern.

          • John Kosto

            Everyone can make 30k in a few minutes, the point is that they shouldn’t have too, because they have already spent real money for a cosmetic item that is overpriced, single use, and quite frankly, greatly overrated. I don’t use any of these tunings, because the value for money ratio is a very very low number. I am happy with my Grey Helix lightsabers and my badass looking blasters without needing to keep removing and installing an idiotic tuning on them.

            • abaddonsmummy

              I think you missed the point of my reply.
              I was simply stating that it’s cheap and easy in game to swap tuning’s.
              Whether you like or dislike them is irrelevant.

        • Fred Garvin

          Surely there must be a better way to do this kind of thing. Oh, wait. There is: http://www.wowhead.com/weapon-illusions-guide. Dozens of “tunings”, all available from either crafting or world drops, all unlocked for your account when used.

      • Ser JuJoo Guppy

        Sure, you can also pay another $20 to get a 2nd one for your off-hand if you use duel wield.

        Nothing wrong with that practice at all, nope.

        I see a few of you guys / gals defending them as they absolutely completely screw you over, under, around and straight through, and yet when they get done you turn around and tell them “Thank you!” and beg for them to screw you guys over again in the future… ridiculous, honestly.

        They absolutely are screwing fans over with these prices, regardless if someone is foolish (Or, honestly, dumb) enough to accept it and buy regardless.

        Save that $60 and buy a brand new game… you’re going to get a lot more enjoyment out of it than your virtual cosmetic weapon skin.

        Even funnier, after you buy that $60 saber, you still gotta globally unlock it for all characters, so there goes another chunk of CC… whats a platinum unlock these days? 1000? Figure another $5-10….

        But please, keep telling them this is okay.

        • abaddonsmummy

          Like I said it’s not compulsory for the game in any way, If you think it’s too steep, don’t pay it, use in game credits instead to but two.
          Why don’t you do that?
          That’s what I did, so nobody screwed me over, under, around and straight through.
          You anger over an optional digital lightsaber is strange.
          I think you can’t/don’t want to pay the CC prices which is fine, some people can’t/won’t, I accept that but if you can’t be bothered to grind in game for them for what’s meant to be a rare saber that’s your issue i’m afraid not their’s.

        • Diehard fan

          Why you so worried about us? Take care yourself first and deal with that terrible butt-hurt.

          Specifically answering to you – I dont need to save up, I buy what I want,when I want. I doesnt concern you.

          Specifically for you again – to unlock this saber is only 240 CC. Play the actual game or dont bother posting here.

          • Reactionary Monarchist

            Sadly, basement dweller, you don’t have a say on who posts here, on what is posted and on why the person posted. It’s tragic, I know.

            • Poor stupid idiot post above

              He can block idiots, sadly, you`re one of them. Oh wait, not sadly 😀

              • Reactionary Monarchist

                It really amuses me how easily it is to trigger an obese pimpled kid upset over his video game shinies 😀

              • Big poo blocks my vision above

                I`m sure if you put your head out of your ass and try to walk at least 1 block from your place you`ll find life much more acceptable. Try it.

                You also seems to react the most on my post that hitted you the most – you are poor as a shit poodle, thats the reason you get triggered so much here. Well go ahead, your posts only makes all of people here understand that hating this game leads to retardness like your own. Good job, boy!

              • Reactionary Monarchist

                It’s so sweet how you fire out sock-puppet account at this rate, Pimples.

  • Ser JuJoo Guppy

    Dear diehard SWTOR community.

    Please stop supporting these guys in their efforts to milk you of every dollar you make. They are not giving this game the development it deserves, they are not treating you, the fans, like the loyal customers you are, and they don’t give a crap about whats best for the game at this point.

    These prices are absurd. It is not as if the lightsaber actually cost even close to $60 to develop, or this tuning close to the $20 its costing either. Nor is there a true scarcity of the item, that is, its not rare because its hard to get in game, or a very rare drop in game, its artificially (Yes, I realize its all artificial, but I hope you get my point) made rare by THEM to milk you. There is no reason they should cost so much.

    Most games don’t have items you buy with real cash be chance based as is. You buy what you see. No artificially making items more rare than one another.

    This is pure insanity and outright rude to the player base that has stuck around so long. I still love this world, its characters, and what this game COULD be with proper dev’s behind it, but man. They are screwing us over and trying to justify it.

    • Darth Álru

      Just don’t buy them, jeez! Milk you? Nobody is pushing you to buy anything.

      • Ser JuJoo Guppy

        I would never buya single cosmetic item for $60 when I can purchase a full AAA game for that price. But that doesn’t mean they are milking their community for every last dollar they think they can get.

        You really, truly believe that a single virtual cosmetic item some how deserves a price tag equal to a full brand new AAA game? Honestly, you believe that? Then you are part of the problem.

    • Diehard fan

      Most games? Are you playing on old intel pentium in Mickey Mouse and Friends? Most of games now HAVE ingame market with DP stuff. ME3 had very same system with random loot boxes, I think Andromeda will have the same. Also most if not all popular MOBAs have it. As well as most mobile app games.

      Get out from under the rock, dude, its XXI – the century of milking people over digintal thingies.

      • Reactionary Monarchist

        You should really spend money on dealing with your gland problem rather than on this video game, being obese by own admission and all that.

        Oh and ME3 isn’t an MMO, try to grass the concept.

        • Post above was made by 4 y.o.

          The guy was talking about games in general, not just MMOs, you stupid asshat.

          Next time you want to open you angry mouth, at least read what people post. Idiots, idiots everywhere…

          • abaddonsmummy

            I think it’s funnier that he’s trying to be edgy with ‘try to grass the concept’
            Grass?
            Shouldn’t that be grasp?
            Or is he smoking too much ‘Grass’
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/155e1c729d28a7471f6aa930b7f7808139752b163b2bbc16dd22f06de11aa775.jpg

            • Reactionary Monarchist

              Why thank you, Limey! I appreciated how you also unblocked me, that really just demonstrates the amount of pathetic of you and the gland problem.

              • Naq

                I don’t know what is more exhausting, the fact Abby still supports the rotting afterbirth that is Diehard Fan. The fact that Diehard is so pathetic he blocks people, then logs out so he can still read what they post and screech at them on guest accounts, or the fact anyone still bothers to engage him. Just let it go. I let it go, and if anyone should still be hammering away at the tender recesses of his fragile mind, its probably me. But it isn’t worth it. It just gives that walking shit stain more reasons to come around.

              • Reactionary Monarchist

                Oh it amuses me to no end, I know that little ego-maniac couldn’t resist reading the posts on sock-puppet account and commenting. Sadly, it was all too easy, oh well.

                The interesting thing is that these two items of genetic surplus are pretty representative of what’s left of the game community in SWTOR.

              • Truth about your mom

                Its so sweets you`re so fond of him, I think this guy really gotten inside you head pretty hard. Keep posting, I`m sure he is laughing at you now 😀

              • Naq

                Brilliant.

              • Reactionary Monarchist

                Sorry Pimples, I’m not giving tips.

              • Darth Gnaw

                “I think this guy really gotten inside you head pretty hard.”

                Those words, they sounds so familiar… As if someone else said it over and over like a mindless idiot. Who else around here could possibly talk that way oh mysterious stranger?
                https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/72afab655232fe960c5fabda7cc285c3f81e4571720cb288e581457793527eeb.jpg

              • Diehard fan

                Am I in your head now too?

                For a person who registered 2 months ago and had 20 posts you sure wasted alot of time to find this, merge into a picture and post it. Wow.

                I`m flattered, I really am. Please, by all means, continue.

              • Darth Gnaw

                1. Ive posted for years as a guest account. registered more recently to post pics 😛
                2. Dont flatter yourself. It took less than a minute.
                3. You just confirmed it all.

              • Diehard fan

                Riiiight.

                Ok, no probs, dont give a fuck really 😀

              • abaddonsmummy

                I share some view points in common with Diehard as I do Don loco, Gog, You and Gomez and others.
                I also disagree with things they say too, that’s my prerogative.
                I support no-one on here as no-one supports me, that’s not why i’m here.
                I’m here to put my case for the game form my point of view.
                What I find more disturbing the the upvotes reactionary’s disturbing comments are getting and the people that are supporting him.
                I’m on here talking about the game with posters as I was doing happily and non abusively…..he’s not.
                I don’t respond to any of his comment’s because I can see what he’s up to.

              • Reactionary Monarchist

                You crossed the line a long time ago, Limey. And your passive-aggressive approach was not particularly amusing even when fresh. Types like you ruined the product, and will keep ruining the product, it doesn’t matter how bad it is – you found your cause.

                You are a quisling and nobody likes quislings save other quislings.

              • Fred Garvin

                Nailed it.

              • Question

                Poor girl. Dont take everything so personal. Your reaction is the best reward for owner of Diehard fan account. You do understand that?

              • Naq

                https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cd74d6db8b5182ac3bfb5f78938430528dd89ff58b2231d60366106447de552c.jpg

                Oh but I am blocked so he can’t see. Right? This Diehard Fan person, who you are clearly not. On account of your big nose, and bushy eyebrows.

              • Reactionary Monarchist

                He closed his eyes, so if he can’t see you, you can’t see him!

              • Don Loco

                Try to understand that *gasp* she doesn’t actually give a shit about you. Hard to understand the world not revolving around you I know but do try to grasp the concept. Poor little boy (?), can you not understand that?

              • Darth Twinge
              • Naq

                Oh thank you so much, I’ve had “You’re Welcome” in my head all day since watching Moana last night. This should help.

              • Ben Gimson

                Was it any good? Been on the fence about seeing it :’)

              • Naq

                I’ve been posting from the middle of the pacific ocean from my raft, all day. I don’t even remember how I got here, but I assume I was inspired to voyage the sea because of this movie.

              • Ben Gimson

                Guess I’ll go see it then, cheers 😀

              • John Kosto

                I read that in a Blaster from Master and Blaster voice.

              • Don Loco
              • gog

                The thing what you do when using multiple accounts on a forum is that you is that:

                1. You establish 2 distinct registered accounts during a couple of weeks or months, make sure no one figures out they’re from the same person.

                2. You engage in a flame war with brutal insults against yourself.

                3. Watch the reactions and have some fun with seeing who’s party people take.

                4. Change the names and icons to that of your 3rd, main account with which you’ve played mediator in previous flame war.

                5. Watch the confusion with glee….

                Never done it here, but was a glorious 🙂

              • Naq

                Oh geez, lol

              • gog

                Trolling should be used for lols, not harassment 🙂

              • John Kosto

                I don’t know about you, but I am very happy that you and I are “adequate” on his list, and he is having second thoughts about blocking us.

          • Reactionary Monarchist

            Don’t be angry just because pixels can’t compensate for your obesity, professionals can help you, with enough effort you’ll be almsot human.

            • You can be saved! or not

              I`m sure thats what doctors saying to you all the time. Relax, try to roll back and forth, you know the drill.

              • Reactionary Monarchist

                Dang kid, you can’t even invent anything on your own. You really cracked quickly, I estimated few more days but then again your psychological balance is really poor. Probably coming from lack of care by your parents, hence your free reign with mom’s welfare.

                Don’t blame them though, you are ugly inside and out and not particularly witty or educated.

                They are trying their best.

              • That dude has huge problems

                I really want to figure out, whats wrong with you? Why so much offense to people with money? I know you`ll continue you`ll pseudo-psychological nonsense about parents, but still have to try to ask directly. Maybe I can pass through this terrible wall of anger.

              • Reactionary Monarchist

                Oh it’s easy, it’s a simple dislike of little obese pimple-faced punks on the internet. You see, you are my hobby project for the week and you behave with admirable consistency.

                Again, no amount of CC will compensate for being a genetic error with faulty parenting.

              • I really should make acc here

                Simple dislikes doesnt occupy with such aggression. I also never mentioned anything about “CC” or money. In a few posts above you also reacted with bad compiled lies about money and family.

                So my diagnosis is this:

                Functional disorder of hippocampus, possibly epilepsia, controlled type. If you`re not already under supervision, I strongly suggest you visit a specialist. You can contact me directly, I will leave you a PM.

                Also, feel free to continue your rage over me, by my personal opinion you have potential to overcome your current mental state.

              • Reactionary Monarchist

                Keep at it, Pimples, I’m busting my gut here!

                So far you have:
                1. Diehard fan
                2. We`re close to cracking it!
                3. Post above was made by 4 y.o.
                4. Dieharder for me
                5. You can be saved! or not
                6. That dude has huge problems
                7. I really should make acc here
                8. Truth about your mom
                9. Poor stupid idiot post above
                10. Big poo blocks my vision above
                11. Reactionary Retard post above
                12. Question
                13. Shawney needs a huge one

                I understand though, you got too many atomic wedgies at school.

              • Diehard fan

                big wards mek I sound smarterer.
                upvote meself

              • Diehard fan

                but i have a small problem…in my pants. so ill upvote myself

              • Diehard fan

                and upvote yourself! Youll feel better

          • HMHero

            By ‘the guy…’ do you mean yourself?

            • abaddonsmummy

              I think we all know it probably is, but if it’s his way of dealing with someone that’s here to effect him in the most disturbing way, to make him break so people can stand and point and laugh, with the most disgusting comments then I don’t blame him.
              It’s bullying at it’s worst.

              • HMHero

                ever hear the one about 2 wrongs?

              • abaddonsmummy

                If you poke the dog till he gets angry and bites and moan when he bites who’s the bigger fool?

              • Diehard fan

                grahhhh buhhh rabies grrrrrrrrrrrrahhhhhh!

              • Don Loco

                “Two wrongs don’t make a right,
                But they make me feel a whole lot better”

              • Reactionary Monarchist

                Yes, I agree, Diehard fan is really bullying people systematically with his mirror accounts, and not just on this thread.

              • Classical

                You`re a classical example of mirroring behavour pattern, I wonder if you have your own opinion instead of just reacting to stimulus.

                Basically speaking you just a cactus with a keyboard. Fascinating evolution!

              • Reactionary Monarchist

                Why thank you, Pimples, that makes me roughly trice superior to you. Mind you, it’s not much of an achievement as anything above teredo shipworms can claim the same thing in comparison to you and mummy dearest.

                Except in BMI department that is, there you truly rule, even hippos with gland problems barely come close.

              • Diehard fan

                Classical circular thinking! Huzzah! I’ll upvote myself!

              • Darth Gnaw

                This. Watching this guys recent behavior on a site that i’ve frequented for years is like watching someone vandalize your own house. He needs to be thrown out.

              • Diehard fan

                I actually was playing Mass Effect Andromeda early access at a time… what a shitshow they managed to start again. Thats the main reason I blocked them, complete waste of my time.

                Now as some time passed I feel sorry that it ended up badly with Naq and Kosto, they seem adequate to me and have their reasons, but I wont unblock them, for very same reason – I have principles. As for that second one with the crown avatar… I think he has serious problems, wont even bother to read all the shit he throwed into again.

                All I want to say to you sad, depressed, faithless angry people is this: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0806d09d57bf76cf796baa2d2874bce502ce6ae38ec8c7d8f46c8920856931ef.gif

                Good day to you, hope you can live with the fact that I completely dont care what you post here anymore, you had you chance to be my friends, now enjoy the privilege to be my enemy.

              • Naq

                I’m interested to see how Abby reacts to this post. I mean, he just lied right to you, as if you are too damn stupid to see right through it. He’s handed you half of his shit sandwich, and asked you to take a bite.
                Do you laugh it off, give a passive upvote hoping nobody notices? Or actually say “Kid. How stupid do you think we all are. Do you honestly have so little respect for us, you honestly believe we are going to swallow this garbage that all these other posts in your tone and syntax are not you?”
                Abby, you are probably the only one here he hasn’t blocked. This is exciting.

              • abaddonsmummy

                I’m at a loss.
                I don’t know what your talking about.
                There’s a deleted post up there but I have no idea what it said?
                To be perfectly honest I don’t know who the f*** is who anymore.
                I do know that the reactionary guy hijacked what was an interesting discussion with posters about the price of items on the CM, to abuse Diehard, I assume in revenge for the argument last week. I hoped it had moved on.
                After that it all went a bit ‘Pete Tong’.
                Also and I’m not going to dwell on this but again why am I anyone’s ‘buddy’.
                I agree and disagree with all the people on here. Do you want me to start calling Reactionary or Musco sucks your ‘buddy’ with the disturbing comments they make because you all have bigger issues with the game?
                Lets talk about Star Wars people.
                I’m getting to old for this 🙂

              • Naq

                You don’t even need to actively be his “buddy”, he acts like your dog because he wants to be. He barks and snaps, then comes back to you for approval and little upvote snacks, then after a day of lunatic multiple personality disorder, we get “Hey Abaddon, Its me The Real Diehard, and I was playing Mass Effect this whole time and it certainly wasn’t me shit posting all day like a crazy person. Just want to remind you how level headed I am. Heres a picture of My Little Pony to confirm I am sane.”

                He doesn’t need you posting about how poor unfortunate and bullied he is. He needs someone he will listen to, to tell him to grow the hell up, because we are not so stupid that we can’t see through his crap, maybe throw in some dad mojo, its probably why he’s latched on to you like a barnacle.

              • abaddonsmummy

                It’s funny how people see each other from different reference points. (and I’m not being inflammatory or sarcastic here honest).
                When I saw your post that took the ‘argument’ from one thread to another I felt like you had thrown him to your lapdogs to do your dirty work, which they happily did, but I now know (from our previous conversations) that was never your intent and whatever happened thereafter spiraled out of control and took there own path with the other posters.
                It’s a shame you all can’t let this go and move on, no-one died, no-one got hurt, words were said but after all this is just a game but it appears poster baiting is the new forum sport these days.
                I’m tired of saying i’m not his keeper and I don’t think he would listen to me anyway.
                “He doesn’t need you posting about how poor unfortunate and bullied he is” Sadly if I felt anyone was being picked on here I would stand up for them, jeez even shawn, because that’s the idiot I am, I was the rough kid at school with the black eye standing up for the fat ginger kid (never did me any good, although he did become the best man at my wedding and godfather to my eldest), and although my fighting days are long long behind me it’s still in my nature.
                When I was a kid I ‘adopted’ 2 stray cats and baby thrush (which lived our back garden for years).
                Needless to say my parents weren’t happy 🙂
                Never adopted a barnacle though XD

              • Naq

                Thats the thing about barnacles. You don’t adopt them, they just latch on to your underparts while you are unaware, and have very little say in the matter till you scrape em off.

              • abaddonsmummy

                Underparts?
                I actually read that first as underpants which I thought was hilarious.
                I don’t want to adopt anyone I think you misunderstood my post, that section was in regard to your comment of “He doesn’t need you posting about how poor unfortunate and bullied he is”
                He is being targeted now for his previous misdeeds as was RM’s clear intention in hijacking a genuine discussion, which is silly especially when you want it to move on.
                There are certain posters on here I stay away from because we clash horribly, I honestly think you two should do the same.

              • Naq

                Forgive my Whedonisms.

                I don’t think its just me that needs to stay away though, I think we need to….build a wall? Make Dulfy great again?….oh no what have I become?

              • Reactionary Monarchist

                Aww, how cute, the little ball of blubber is back with mommy’s credit card. Chubby, why don’t you roll a few more sock-puppet accounts, not that it would do you any good.

              • Naq

                Stop…wait for Abaddon. This could actually end today with the right response from the right person.

              • Reactionary Monarchist

                Well, if you insist, God speed.

              • abaddonsmummy

                What?
                It’s been deleted?

              • Naq

                But of course.

            • Dieharder for me

              I read a few posts and I can see that Diehard fan really trying to talk normally. I dont see any reason to just stand by when he is obviously ignoring that retard. Also its daum fun to read all that butt-hurt about how people spend their money and abusal of relatives!

            • Risqu’e

              He must think we’re all stupid. Its been him attacking everyone else for some time now and suddenly all in one day a dozen guest accounts that have never been here before suddenly show up to his defense. /SMH

              • Rance

                Hey, but he is getting tons of enjoyment playing the game! That must be why he’s here with his army of guest accounts all the day 😛

            • Diehard fan

              Yeah… but to be honest, I have no balls.

          • Diehard fan

            I’m the biggest idiot of all! The mirror told me so!

      • Ser JuJoo Guppy

        A larger portion of the games I have played / still play, you pay for what you get, not a random loot box. You listed Mass Effect(s) as examples, which, is BioWare, so of course they will do the same thing. That does not mean its justified or acceptable.

        Problem is, people simply shrug their shoulders and accept it and buy it anyway; if they refused to purchase it, itd prove to be less profitable, and they would stick to selling you directly instead of chance boxes.

        • Diehard fan

          Want another example of random box? Team Fortress, Dota, CS.

          The problem is that pricing is unacceptable for you. Exactly for you. If they put 60$ label, it means they did some math before. Designers and coders work pay is irrelevant because its an item that was already made and paid for (for this exact saber for 7900 CC – I talk about it specifically)

          We, people, dont accept it, but some people are more wealthy and still play video games. There is completely NO reason to buy this item and it bears NO actual ingame benefits aside cosmetics. Like some people say here – its barby dressing. Its not affecting your gameplay, so by all means skip this purchase and let us, people, worry about ourselves.

          • Reactionary Monarchist

            No amount of CC will compensate your real life failures but I’m glad you got your bu** buddy here, you two are so cute together.

            • We`re close to cracking it!

              I see we`re getting closer to the problem itself. Tell us more about compensating for real life failures and inability to do even that. Go ahead, please.

    • abaddonsmummy

      Your statement, although heart felt, is full of supposition and I’m afraid inaccuracies.
      Try other MMO’s and check out their cash shop, they all have one, most are extensive.
      Nothing in the cash shop is a must for playing this game.
      If you don’t want to pay real cash log into the game go on the GTN and buy one. A LOT OF PEOPLE DO THAT.
      “It is not as if the lightsaber actually cost even close to $60 to develop” Ok i’m not great with American Currency but that’s what £50 approx, they get paid what £10 per hour so that’s 5 hours work.
      So your saying the designing and coding of this would take less than 5 hours? Now I know people will come back and say ‘hey I can do this in 10 minutes’ however it will have to go through several stages of the design process and approval from various people who all need paid so I don’t think the price tag can be that far off. Would I pay that hell no, but I know people who don’t have the time to grind for the credits and happily bought one to flash around.
      But like I say, not essential and they’re are other means to get this.
      As for development there is always content coming, just not what part of the community want’s which I agree is wrong, they should cater for all the players but we have more inbound next month.
      People getting hung up on a saber is catastrophically missing the bigger issues in the game just now.

      • Reactionary Monarchist

        Shouldn’t you be rocking back and forth in your safe space?

      • Ser JuJoo Guppy

        Abaddonsmummy;

        Think about this just for a second. it takes an entire massive team of coders, graphic designers, sound artist, concept artist, planners etc etc to design an entire video game, that get released for the price of $59.99.

        Yet they are trying to charge that same price for a single lightsaber. A lightsaber that uses a model that I, as a amateur 3d artist in my spare time, could replicate in short order, so yes people will say that because its true. There is just zero justification for that price tag besides their own artificial inflation.

        You really, really want to argue that some how this saber, produced in a few hours at best, some how is equivalent to developing an entire AAA video game in price?

        The neat thing is, developing a video game would still require the same type of staff, so it *IS* comparable in the sense that they are both the same process… but its clear that the 2 are far from equal in value, time committed, or even staff needed to produce.

        I am sorry, you are justifying an absolutely disgusting practice on the part of BW. The sad part is, there are enough people that don’t take issue paying the $60 that it likely is worth while, or they wouldn’t do it.

        Doesn’t make it right, though.

        As for incoming content… they are implementing new ways for you to replay the same content, while trickling in some tiny additions here and there to justify their jobs. There seems to just be bad decision after bad decision here, and I could ramble all day about it.

        • abaddonsmummy

          You make a good point about the price of a game and the price of a saber, but I liken it to a lot of purchases where the initial purchase is low but the add-on’s cost a lot more.
          Take a simple printer for example, very cheap to buy and surely not a profit maker in itself when you consider the parts involved and the man hours in design and construction. Where the they make their money is the consumables that you need to run it, the inks etc.
          MMo’s are the same, considering the cheap price of the game compared to the designing and development and future costs of running servers and bringing out new content and the wages involved from doing all that. Quite considerable.
          Where they make their money is subscriptions and extra in game sales. They all do it. People like their toys and dress up and are willing to pay for it. It enhances their enjoyment but doesn’t change the actual game experience.
          Also I think your forgetting here is that the item is meant to be very rare.
          That means all the people who paid a lot of real money to open dozens if not hundreds of boxes to get one of these ‘very rare’ pieces would be furious if you could now buy one for a few pounds/dollars.
          If people want

          • Reactionary Monarchist

            Yes, you really polished the tu** nice and shiny, too bad it’s still a tu**.

      • gog

        Thing with their pricing is this tho:

        First off, since this is a digital item the production costs is, unlike a physical item, a one time cost. For each item they sell, they have as close to a 100% profit margin as it’s possible, and due to the low production costs it’s basically just free cash.

        I got zero clue of their sales numbers, so these numbers are just pulled out of my ass: But lets say they sell 2k sabers for 60$ apiece, but if the pricing had been 30$ they would’ve sold 5k of them. Which would’ve given them a bigger profit in that case.

        While there’s a bunch of whales in the game, even some of those have a limit where they decide it’s not worth it. And then you have the players who spend cash on the CM when they feel it’s worth the cost, who are the ones that’s less likely to spend cash on a really bloody expensive item no matter how cool it looks.

        I know I went from spending somewhere around 30-90€ a month on CM depending on the quality of content there to just paying for my sub when the quality and drop rates of the cartel packs went down the toilet. And I wasn’t the only one.

        • abaddonsmummy

          Yeah I totally get what you are saying on the pricing, it’s an age old industry problem of finding the balance between price and sales.
          But you would be surprised ( I certainly was) when you ramp up the price of a rare item people will buy it just because it rare, and they like to show this expensive rare item.
          And like I’ve said a few times on here the people who opened dozens of packs and spent real money would be pissed if it was too cheap.
          A hypercrate is what 5k cartel coins which is 26 boxes, the chance of getting one is very rare in that pack so I know people buy multiple hypercrates for a chance at the very rare stuff.
          This is meant to be a very rare item and is priced as such.
          Would I buy it? Hell no but I know people that have in my guild because its easier than grinding the 60 mill credits to buy off the GTN.

          • gog

            You make some valid points there. A conclusion, sort of, is probably that you can’t make all customers happy, and you just make sure to please the ones that gives you the most profit overall. And I do remember a ton of whining when they did really nice sales on server transfers and from players who’d just paid full price for those.

            A second thing that makes people fork over money is the amount of time an item is available. If an item has a limited window for purchase, then customers are more likely to ask themselves if they can let that item pass them by rather than if they really want it.

    • Raykyen

      The way I see it, my fellow SWToR gamers will try to rape me of every credit I have. The last time i checked for pricing on the weapon tuning, it was in excess of 50 million credits. I dont even know how long it would take to farm that amount up, but i do know it takes me less then an hour to make the money to buy it direct. So the “Milk you of every dollar” is kinda all around, and just as much with the players as with the company. So, unless your willing to sell me one at a price that takes me about an hour of farming credits, ill continue to support bioware and spend a minor amount of real life money for something that i do NOT NEED TO PLAY OR SUCCEED AT THE GAME, but just enjoy its appearance.

      • Eban

        ^ and this is why they charge 60 bucks a saber.

        Not hating or trolling but players like this dude is why EA/Bioware loveeee mirco-transactions in their games.

        • Diehard fan

          You`re wrong. They charge 7900 CC for being unique. If everyone could buy a platinum item, whats the point of having it as a unique identificator? Whats so wrong if someone actually makes more than 60$ per hour? And whats the difference if he spend his money in a restaurant, on a cheap whore in a bar, or on a digital item he wants? Whats the difference for you exactly? Except that you cant get that mentioned saber, for whatever reason.

          Microtransactions is the main driver for alot of games, indie games included. Its the way to survive for them.

          I dont blame you for anything, but hey, there is nothing wrong in the price and in such people. Its life. Get a better job if you want better things around you. Cant – dont blame others.

          • Eban

            He can obtain that item by spending in game credits, no one ever has claimed it’s difficult to make credits in SWTOR (just takes time).
            But players like him cant be arsed and want the shiny now with no effort so they pay real life cash for it hence why EA/Bioware love them.

            Where am I wrong?

            • Shawn Hargrave

              Your dealing with one of the 2 last fanbois here

              • Eban

                *sigh I know I shouldn’t engage. Damn it I know better.

              • Diehard fan

                Relax, you`re out of this shitshow. Smart people know better than to get into this mess again. I certainly wont.

              • gog

                I’d argue you’re probably the best tank among us here on this site considering your amazing ability to draw aggro and maintain it 😉

              • Darth Gnaw

                Mummy must be heals then lol

              • gog

                Think we’re mainly PvP dps:ers while Dulfy is our almighty and awesome healer 🙂

              • Diehard fan

                Thats why this place called Dulfy healing corner, I wonder.

              • Diehard fan

                Hah, I actually love to play as tank 😀

              • gog

                So I’ve noticed…. ^^

              • bearalzebub
              • Fred Garvin

                He’s more like a tank-n-spank boss. Big and loud but ultimately just stands there getting destroyed. Respawns each week to take another beating.

              • Diehard fan

                And you`re long forgotten world boss no one cares about. Stay in your hole and keep your impotent rage moaning to yourself.

            • Diehard fan

              You miss the point or making money is effortless for you. He specifically mentioned that he can get saber wasting 1 hour of his real life time. To get it with your beloved credits, by my own calculations, he should spend from 15 to 40 hours of grinding ingame.

              So… 1 hour of YOUR LIFE, or 40 hours of YOUR LIFE.

              In the end price of this saber is your own lifetime. So. You really think that it is worth 2 days of your own life?

              • Eban

                You missed my point.

                He can acquire that item by actually playing the game and using (my beloved?) credits or use real life money.
                He (and others) choose real money and purchase it and EA (in particular)/Bioware love these guys.

                Again where am I wrong?

              • Diehard fan

                If for you farming is fun – you have a fair point. But if, like alot of people here, you enjoy good company, new challenges and just having fun in a game, farming is a huge time sink, completely different from getting actual fun.

                At least for me it is so.

                You can buy anything from GTN with credits. Credits, like any currency, have an exchange rate. Right now its 0.5$ for 1 mil.

                Lets say this item costs 80-120 (avg.100 mil) on GTN, so its 0.5*100 = 50$

                What is your rate in getting 1 mil? Lets say 2 mil per hour. So to get 100 mil you need to farm about 50 hours.

                Lets say you get paid 20$ per hour. You need to work 3 hours to buy saber.

                3 hours = saber
                50 hours = saber

                So playing SWTOR you generate around 0.1$ per hour. I`m not counting crafting, it can really speed up the process of accumulating credits. Just an average time.

                Its all about effectiveness, as you see.

                To sum it up –

                You can either buy saber directly, saving time and having more fun with it, or farm for it for 2 days straight just to buy it from someone who paid real money for it.

                Nothing bad in both ways, first one saves you alot of time. Thats all.

              • Eban

                I never said one way = good and the other way = bad.

                I said one way makes EA/Bioware super happy and you said I was wrong.
                I’m not wrong.
                😉

              • Naq

                You are not wrong anywhere. But I think this is a matter of perspective, either by age, or by wisdom. You have played games that didn’t ask you to buy all the fun parts in pieces. You played games that only had 1 barrier for entry, the cost to buy it in the first place. I am starting to think from reading this thread that we are talking to a generation that never had the luxury of buying a game, and owning the whole game. This is all they know. A whole generation brought up by the mobile market, and EA practices to think that having more money means playing more of the game, having the shinier toys and sporting the things that used to require competent gameplay as status symbols now based on your finances. That foul taste we get in our mouths from seasons passes, day 1 dlc, ingame cash shops, FeeToPay, and now $60 lightsabers are just how it is for them, they’ve been programmed to like it.
                To us, its like a sick joke, because that isn’t our gaming. But its theirs. And since its all they know, it makes sense to them.

              • Paulo Gomes

                No it’s not our gaming. And it’s not our game. It’s THEIRS.

                That is the reason I didn’t even touch Battlefront. You bought the game. Well, 1/3 of the game. Then you had to buy the rest of it to properly play it.

                I think you are most definitely right when you say this is a generation of gamers that don’t know better.

                I never bought Cartel Coins. The idea to me is ludicrous. The stuff I bought with CC’s was through the monthly coins I got in my account.

                Because you don’t really own this type of games. If anyone has bothered to scroll down and read the Terms of Agreement to TOR they will see this. You don’t own ANYTHING about this game. Your characters, your, weapons, your Strongholds… NOTHING is yours. You only have the right to access these things while you have an active account… And the game is up, that is.

                You are in fact RENTING a game. Never owning it, even if you have a physical copy of it. Because without an account and a live server you can’t play it.

                To me, the monthly cost of keeping a sub was more than acceptable. But no more than that. Now excuse me while I go play some Fallout 4… You know, a game I ACTUALLY OWN…

                😉

              • Diehard fan

                To be completely honest, you also dont own anything in any other game you buy, except your screenshots. You also getting a right to access and use the game any time you want. The difference is time restriction of MMO. Yet we still have to see the fall of WoW. When this will happen, and how it will happen will affect all other games, the basic principle. I think some people, me included, will pay till the rest of their life to have 1 server with 24/7 access to our belonings. Thats a model some people in charge put up sometimes, but its still a long road before this will happen.

                Trust me, I`m very well aware of that all MMO and online games with account access are property of their company developers, it doesnt make this game less attractive or its items less shiny. In fact on contrary.

            • Raykyen

              I game maybe…10 hours a week. In those 10 hours, I play SWToR, Hearthstone, and WoW.

              I spent roughly 100 bucks on crates when the Unstable Lightsaber first became available. Didn’t get it. So, shame on me. That was a gamble that didn’t pay off. Decided, I’ll farm for it, and sell off the items that I got in the crates I purchased. It took me roughly 3 months of farming, plus playing the GTN with items I got in the crates, or bought low / sold high, to save up the 35 million credits I payed for said lightsaber.

              So..shell out 20 bucks to buy the shiny, or spend 3-4 months to buy the shiny. Kind of a no brainer.

              If you can’t understand that, well, then I dont know what to tell you. Actually, nor do I care. That 20 bucks buys me my first rounds in the first 10 minutes at the bar. It pays for about a week of gas in my Challenger. It pays my APA league dues. If you cant afford it, sorry dude, sucks to be you.

              Tell you what. You can go farm the 50 mil creds for me, and Ill toss ya 20 bucks for your time.

              Does that somehow make it better?

              • John Kosto

                What a surprise, another “rich” guy who uses the phrase “sucks to be you”.

                I am sorry, but if it took you 3 months to make 35 million credits even after you had a couple of hypercrates in your possession to sell, you are doing something wrong. Very wrong. I could make 70 million credits easily with items from a couple of hypercrates and another 2-3 million credits per hour by farming heroics with a full group.

                Comes to show that people who make a lot of money and brag about it, are not necessarily very skilled. They just happen to have a good job.

              • Eban

                Yeah making money in SWOTR is not hard at all not sure what he’s doing wrong.
                Easy to make millions in this game from dailies to selling dyes/stims/augmentkits/all the crafting mats from nodes etc,
                If anyone is struggling theres youtube vids to help.

              • Ben Gimson

                And that sums everything that’s wrong with ‘gamers’ nowadays. I’m -just- old enough to remember when you bought a game and put the effort in to earn anything you wanted to get within that game. It’s really sad that gaming has become this constant attempt to milk people for shit they should be able to get by actually playing the game.

                EDIT: Annnnd Naq already made this point a few posts down :’)

              • Eban

                Dont need to justify yourself to me.
                As I said before I wasn’t hating or trolling you.
                My point was there’s two ways players can obtain the shiny and one way makes EA ejaculate over their keyboards.
                Your way is their favourite. 😉

    • Jonathan Doe

      At this point, i think you are wrong about them trying to justify it, they just do it, it’s basically an abusive relationship, the victim keeps defending the abuser, “She means well” “She didn’t mean to hurt me it was an accident””If you knew her like i do” …

  • John Kosto

    A tuning for one weapon on one character for 1800CC? Haha, man that weed that grows in Austin must be great

  • dzip.sys

    Oh jah, I see, there also will be Weapon Tunings as a reward for playing the game, not only the cartel market. Another promise by the chief liar of BioWare Musco…

  • Baldarhion

    Well, I would advice swtor team to take a close look on others MMO cash shops. For example, in FF14 they try to put a bunch of vanity gear for about 3,50-14 euros (14 euros for full sets). On TSW it’s about the same. Keep in mind that on FF14 and TSW players usually have a single character: it’s even cheaper. So I guess that CM team should lower the prices. 1800CC for a discreet visual effect (and for a single character) is a bit out of tune.

    I mean… on these games you can have “nice” things without been ruined. And guess what, it works flawlessly : people are buying. Of course some wil say that it will equally ruin the “uniqueness-valor”. But heh… Players seem to enjoy to be able to buy nifty things for a couple of dollars/euros . Oh… like in real life :3

    • Diehard fan

      Well, we cant really say anything about how it works, we dont posess actual numbers from sales. We have main reports that are accessable from EA I think each year and each quarter respectively. Somewhere here I think it was Paulo Gomes who posted a link to that info, could be wrong though.

      All I could find now is average number of subscribers that is close to 500000 now, so its 1/3 from top 1.7 mil at start. Other information is old or irrelevant. It was mentioned that SWTOR generating positive revenue with around 400000 subs, now this number should be less, I think around 300-250k. So they`re doing pretty much ok for now.This number was calculated on a forum, with average statistics of online activity across servers, I believe its quite accurate.

      • Baldarhion

        Two days ago, I did count people on my server (Empire side) : we were 124 players on prime time. Sad :'( (count was done with the /who command [/who marauder, /who agent, etc.])

        • Diehard fan

          I believe something like that was performed as well on all servers to get that numbers.

      • gog

        Thing is, one thing that costs a lot for an MMO is staff, and judging my the amount of content we’ve gotten lately, it would be logical to assume that their staff is pretty small. Which means less costs and thus they don’t need as many subs or CC purchases to stay profitable.

        But the point of an MMO is to have people around you, and with how barren the servers started to become just 1-2 years ago, doing some server mergers in TOR probably help making the game feel less empty.

        • Diehard fan

          Totally agree, server merge is very needed.

      • Paulo Gomes

        I did. But that information is outdated by now, we need this year’s financial report from EA to make any kind of assumption… But in all honesty I can’t be bothered to look it up lol… IF it’s even out there at all. Wayshuba should know more about that. I think he’s a shareholder for EA, he’s REALLY informed…

  • Whitedragon
    • Mad cuz I don’t like it
      • Mad cuz I don’t like it

        Mine* but I’m too lazy to make a new one :3

        • Whitedragon
        • John Kosto

          Don’t worry about it, it was idiotic even with correct grammar and syntax.

          • Shiteater

            People around here are bitching because they aren’t getting the content they want and then ridicule the people who still enjoy the product so they continue to spend money on it. The bitching is warranted, but don’t get mad at the people who enjoy the game so think it is worth whatever they can afford on it. People are just mad that others enjoy it.

            • John Kosto

              I am not sure what propelled this completely inaccurate and unnecessary response from you to me, but cool story bro. I don’t see anyone attacking people that enjoy the game to be honest. Attacking people who write offensive and inaccurate things about other players and the game? Sure, that happens.

              What I DO see, is people who enjoy this game a little bit too much for their own good, attacking people who are not pleased at all with the current state of the game, and hope for a change to the best.

              It’s funny that you think so highly of yourself (I get it you enjoy the game probably? I mean as a shiteater… you have to enjoy the crap that Bioware is constantly feeding you, right?) and others who enjoy the game so that you actually think other people get mad at you or even care about you, but please, do try and wake up.

              • John Kosto

                Wake up to what? The game is fine but I haven’t been playing for years like other players. It’s funny to see the peoole get mad over CM updates. You people will shit your pants over anything

              • Diehard fan

                Well, I I’m too big to get through the bathroom door so what choice do I have?

              • Eban

                The ironic thing is he doesn’t enjoy the game much these days.
                He’s spending all day on Dulfy comment section in and out of guest accounts and then back into his actual one engaging in verbal combat with anyone that will give him the time of day.
                It’s like this webpage has become a more interesting MMORPG than SWTOR and he see’s us as NPC’S.
                Relogging from account to account like ALTS.

                Imagine if he put all that time into actually playing the game then he may see what we see.

        • Whitedragon
          • abaddonsmummy

            What in the name of all that is sacred it this….character?

            • Don Loco

              No point to try and explain because your buddy will get the wrong person then freak out when he’s wrong and derail several threads while explaining how he was only doing an ‘experiment.’ Google will help you perhaps, he is beyond help it seems.

            • Whitedragon

              STAR TREK BITCH!

              • abaddonsmummy

                Original, or early next gen?
                Looks a bit like quark without his make-up on.
                O and I’m not your bitch, i’m someone else’s here apparently.

              • Whitedragon

                LOS.. not TNG, and you’re not my bitch you’re a bitch 🙂

            • Naq

              I think his name was Yondo or something. Its played by Ron Howard’s brother Clint. He was this weird super powered brain child that could will things into and out of existance, and melt brains if I remember right. Its been a loooong time.

  • Fred Garvin

    The only problem with this is that they didn’t do it sooner. I don’t care how people spend their money on the game because it is all just an entertainment product. You subscribe based on the content you consume. I don’t see the difference from people who spend hundreds on a concert ticket, hundreds on legal weed, or any other type of thing that gives them entertainment.

    Don’t get me wrong, I want more content versus cartel market crap. But I don’t shit on people who have the resources and are willing to spend money on a product that gives them entertainment value.

  • Ser JuJoo Guppy

    Some people have pointed it out but its worth repeating; it isn’t that I have a problem with you spending your money as you see fit exactly, because it is YOUR money. But the problem lies in the fact that by spending the $60+ on a single cosmetic item, you are justifying that price going forward in the companies mind, and thus instead of the companies going “Hey gee this may be a rip off” they assume its completely cool because people bought it.

    Consumers control a market to a large degree. If no one bought it at this price, they would absolutely positively re-list it at a lower cost to try to sell them. If people all stopped throwing their money around so freely on it, we might actually get reasonable cost (Seriously should maybe be $1-2 at most, realistically. $5 is even high for a single simple to do asset like this. You can find games that sell mini DLC for $3-5….)

    If the price was more reasonable, and they were supporting the game in better ways, id be all over buying multiple cosmetic items at fair prices.

    I am not saying I alone determine what is fair and what isn’t, either, but it should be pretty obvious that the current price tags are not remotely justified based on A) other market values of similiar items and B) common sense (Rare, I know.)

    So yeah, please don’t justify these ridiculous prices in the eyes of the companies. Id rather not have to start buying DLC for $120.

    • Eban

      ^ this guy gets it.

    • John Kosto

      Perfectly said.

    • Fred Garvin
    • Diehard fan

      3 questions, you can completely ignore them ofc, but they will help understand your demand.

      1. What is your country?
      2. What is your average year income?
      3. What is your game budget?

      First – this game is oriented on US/EU player base, its clear as day, that you can waste around 100$ or Euro per month on games if you`re under 18 and over 200$ or Euro if you`re an adult. So your average income is around 30-60K$ a year, at a bare minimum.

      So your game budget is around 1200-3000$ per year. Again, its average marketing numbers, easy to calculate them yourself.

      Now answer to yourself – do you really spend that much a year on games? Whats your real budget? And the main question – why do you think item that presented as luxury item, should be available to large player base?

      Answer this, honestly. And then post again.

      • EyesOfGehenna .

        You make a fair point. I bought the lightning tuning myself because I really wanted one and the price at 1800 CC is let’s say defendable for me. For me personally though 60 bucks is not because that buys me an entire new game. It’s a personal decision for me. What has changed for me is that I no longer buy cartel packs. I used to spend over 100 bucks easy a month, probably more. I did that though because I wanted to support the game. But with expansions that give less and less new content I felt that my investment into the game is not being taken seriously. I never thought though that the packs represented a fair value however.

        • Diehard fan

          True to you. I think the same, buying CM packs is my support for something I prefer to keep in my life. As for less content – I think we will see soon enough.

      • abaddonsmummy

        I think at the end of the day computer gaming/ mmo gaming is a luxury.
        Peoples limit on the level of luxury is completely varied and subjective depending on their circumstances and desires from a game.
        Some people it’s all content, some its all dress up, some in between.
        This item is meant to be a ‘Very Rare’ item and it’s priced as such and like I said before all the people that opened dozens of boxes would now be horrified if it was going for a few ‘bucks’. (american currency slang 🙂 )

        • Diehard fan

          I`d say disappointed. Very same happened to me when BW released Correalis Baron mount as a reward from those damned GC packs.
          It was the rarest mount that was on vendors as I believe prior to 2.0 only. Then it was removed. And it was insanely hard to get credits for it. It was for 2 mil creds as I remember.

          After I saw dozens of people riding it it just puf. Just got 1 reason less to play, sadly, reasons keep fading, but there are still some.

  • Sigh

    The funniest thing is, all these ramblings, and you think that will change anything ? What’s the % of players that actually comes here to read the little comment war there is here every day. People have been saying this for months, even years. “Don’t buy CM stuff, don’t buy it, bla bla bla. They’ll make real content if we stop buying”. News flash, people still buy it, and it won’t stop, get over it.

  • Naq

    Thread history.
    March 14: We discuss the merits/problems with direct sales
    March 15: Conversation shifts to the value of items that don’t exist in meatspace, and the generation gap in gamer mentality
    March 16: Everything is on fire. Rationality dies. Multiple personality guest accounts can’t decide if they are Diehard, or not.
    March 17: Nobody survived the fires, it is now a barren wasteland of memewars, and one crazy person having conversations between their account, and their guest posts, randomly wearing the face skins of their fallen enemies.

    • Eban

      its a mad world.

      • Diehard fan

        Sorry I`m using your post for this, but:

        So you really think you act as an adult continuing that flaming after a stubborn nanny-goat who thinks she is so good keeping that flaming over and over? Go on, you guys deserve nothing better then.

        The butt-hurt that made either Freddy or that Reactional Retard to post from my name shows how you people actually act when you have problems you cant solve. Guess what? You will never bring me down, because I have what you have not – I have passion.

        @disqus_iws62GS3lc:disqus

        The very fact I`m the center of your little universe now makes me feel so good and sad at the same time. By all means, go on, continue to hail my name as long as you breathe and keep wispering it during long cold nights. You have nothing except me in your head now, enjoy the agony.

        • Snarf

          “The butt-hurt that made either Freddy or that Reactional Retard to post from my name”
          You did the same to them, so you cant really be upset about it. Theres a saying older than any of us: “Dont throw anything that you can not catch.”

        • Drivan

          You made real world threats of violence against people because of things they said on the internet. And the topic of conversation that led to you making real life threats was about who was pictured in a meme…
          That makes you a loser and invalidates absolutely everything you could possibly ever say to anyone.
          Any rational human being would have realized their wrong doing and just disappeared. The fact that you tried to defend yourself and that you are still here acting like a jackass just proves how much of a lowlife you are.

        • Naq

          Shhhhh. Just…ffs stop. I was hoping Abaddon would tell you to grow up and cut this shit out. But seriously. Please. Grow the fuck up. And cut this shit out.

          • branmakmuffin

            But your pointless post telling others to stop certainly does need to be here, because without it, no one will stop and with it, everyone will stop.

            You know what you do if you want something to stop and you don’t have the power to make it stop? You ignore it.

          • Diehard fan

            I hold no grudge against you. We can stop this together. If you can, lets do it. I completely agree, this place should be a healing corner for all of us.

            So I`ll start first – I`m sorry I said things that offended you.

            • abaddonsmummy

              Good call man 🙂
              Also don’t get caught up in all negative posts, let them wash over you and focus on the game.
              Most of them are not worth it as you know but there is a few good people on here to converse with.

              • ThisGuy

                Little late to that party, don’t you think? After your little attack monkey has already shit everywhere?

              • abaddonsmummy

                Now that’s weird, the ‘gang’ would have everyone believe that’s it’s only diehard that posts on guests accounts.
                Where really both you and I know it’s being going on for a long long time from other people.
                Thanks for the validation 🙂

            • ThisGuy

              ITS A TRAP, RUN NAQ!

        • Risqu’e

          I think the point of blocking people is lost on you.

    • Drivan

      This thread is a perfect cross section of what the SWTOR community has become. The rational thinkers expressing their honest opinions and concerns then the juvenile delinquents come home from school and fuck everything up with their childish behavior. They spent the day getting bullied and beat up in real life so they get online and take out their aggression on strangers who are trying to have adult conversations…

      This is why we can’t have nice things!

    • Female

      Upvote because female

    • Darth Gnaw

      It’s the Final Meltdown!

      • Naq

        I need a new VPN, it makes me so sad when the backwards third world country I am in gets blocked on youtube stuff.

  • Sheet

    Can someone clarify what we are fighting over here? I’m lost beyond the accounts with pictures, the anonymous accounts named after pictured accounts, and the endless memes.

    I see the issue with the CM selling these items when they should be making content. I see someone arguing about who cares what people spend their money on. I see more memes.

    I’m confused. I don’t care that they put this shit on the CM for direct sale, its more money for the game. I do wish they would put out more content.

    • Eban

      You have to wade past the bullshit and see what people are saying.

      The issue isn’t the price of the infamous saber or the constant reskin of cartel crap but the fact the money that gets pumped in by the cartel whales does not get reinvested back into SWTOR.
      It feels like any profit they make the more Bioware/EA can justify giving less.

      Why hire more devs and create more content aimed at everyone (not just certain collective groups like casuals/solo players etc) when they stay in the green with less?
      Think thats why cartel market gets so much grief.
      If this game was flying high like back 2.0/3.0 with all busy servers very few would give two f8#ks about the price of that saber.

      • HMHero

        R.I.P. swtor 3.0, back then people just bitched about class balance and nim ops.

    • Diehard fan

      Its 3 people that still have their asses on fire because I still post here – Nack, Dredd Gadvin and Rectional Retard. Nothing serious, they will heal their wounds by licking each other with fake accounts and things will go normal again. I do hope some moderators could clean their shit though, its really getting boring and too irrelevant to the SWTOR topic.

  • Naq + Diehard Married 2017
  • Paulo Gomes

    What the hell is happening in this site?

    It’s now 2 comments I made that are “awaiting moderation” and don’t get published.

    And they’re not offensive comments… Nothing out of the ordinary. Certainly nothing as negative as some of the stuff that I see when I scroll down…

    Maybe it’s time I stopped commenting here, since it seems my comments are not proper…

    • ThisGuy

      There are filters in place. I think if you use the shift 4 symbol for cash for instance in your post, it will hold for moderation.

    • Don Loco

      Sadly I think it is because of our resident infants running amok of late. The truth will out, always does.

      • Darth Gnaw

        Yup. Largely because he constantly slips up lol. He’s told so many lies, changed IDs, and stabbed so many backs that he can’t keep it all straight at this point.

      • abaddonsmummy

        And the truth did come out.

    • Shawn Hargrave

      i think a certain carebear is trying to get people banned off here it happens to me all the time finally dulfy saw what was going on where down to 2 of them here so gee i wonder whos reporting?

      • Paulo Gomes

        Reporting ME??? Hell, I’ve been trying to pacify all these guys! Gimme a break… If THAT’S what’s going on, these guys are absolutely retarded. Or SOMEONE is. What is this? Censorship??? We can’t speak our minds but someone else can threaten other people??? Oh this is not good… This really pisses me off man…

        • Naq

          You keep saying “guys” but I don’t think its plural at all.

          • Fred Garvin

            I’m thinking he saw that new M. Night Shyamalan movie “Split” about a guy with 23 different personalities and felt inspired.

        • Shawn Hargrave

          Dulfys pretty good if you email her hell ive had over 5 more people try to get me banned off of here they just hit the report icon next to your post on multiple accounts then rage on here when im not banned lol welcome to the party paul

      • snarf

        He has some jacked up priorities. Cares so much about a computer game that’s nosediving, but humans that hes interacting with- not so much.
        Some people just want to watch the world burn i guess.

    • Darth Twinge

      I’m sure it’s that you either happened upon a forbidden word or character due to spammer prevention. It’s happened to me a couple times on accident.

      • Naq

        Its this. Dulfy explained a while back, certain words or characters, like the ones for money, flag posts before they go up, so the site isnt spammed to hell and back by bots. So instead it can be spammed to hell and back by someone’s unattended child.

        Gonna be gone for a bit I think, its not fun here anymore.

    • Let me check to see what is going on and approve the comments. Sometimes if you mention certain words commonly used by spammers it can be held up until I manually approve or if too many people report your comment etc

    • I checked your comments, they are all awaiting moderation cuz you used the word dollar in your comment. I set these to manual approve due to spammers kept spamming those I earned x and x comments. They being approved.

      • Fallen

        wow did not realize you were up this late early edt time

      • Paulo Gomes

        Thank you Dulfy. I was not aware of that. And was surprised, since I was NOT trying to flame anyone. Rather the opposite.

        • EyesOfGehenna .

          Since it’s that particular word, I would think it’s more a measure against gold sellers than a rude comment.

        • gog

          Use $ next time mate, I’ve written a bunch of posts using $ since I’m lazy and those don’t get caught in the credit spammer filter. 🙂

      • simurgh559

        Could you please update your guides for titles, mounts, pets, etc.?

  • What is happening here today?
  • Jay Asher

    Seems like bioware is trying to curb ebay selling. I mean buy a lightning mod on ebay for $50-100 bucks or 20 bucks to bioware for the CC. Only thing i don’t like is they coming out with direct sell stuff that I had to grind hundreds of millions for. Even though I got the lightning mod for 11mil when it came out but for the only decent looking tuning for direct sale making all of us farmers feel like I could have just paid for it. What’s next the kylo saber for $40 worth of CC. This just seems like a classic EA money grab. but whatever the game is like 7 years old doubt it’ll still be up in another few years, especially if disney starts thinking about doing old republic cannon lore.

    Also the shitty looking mount for the same price as the lightning tuning that’s just funny, who wouldn’t pay $20 for a crappy looking mount in a game with 20 mounts that look pretty damn simular and easy to obtain….

    • Fred Garvin

      Did you miss that they sold the Kylo saber for $60 in CC last week?

      • Jay Asher

        bwahaha even greedier than I though. I paid 100mil for that damn saber from farming. 60 bucks isnt shit but its a slap in the face to people who had to earn the credits through hardcore playing to get.

        • Jay

          How is it a slap in the face? It’s a fucking cosmetic item. It doesn’t impact you if someone pays real money for it and if anything it helps fund the game. By game, I mean more cartel market shit for you to grind.

  • gog

    There’s a risk that if you’re waiting for ACTUAL content then you might have to wait forever… 😉

    And right now these forums presents a far more engaging multiplayer experience than TOR. We even have multiboxers here now…

    • Paulo Gomes

      I know, I know!!! Now it’s turning into a suspense series of sorts. Who is who… I once caught a guy posting with 2 profiles: he started answering with one and then replied on another…

      “Next episode on The Profile Police: will they catch someone double posting? Will Dulfy erupt in a chaotic duel between Haters and WK’s? Don’t miss out on the fun!!!”

      Hehehehe…

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