SWTOR Carnage Marauder and Combat Sentinel Class Changes for 5.4

SWTOR Carnage Marauder and Concentration Sentinel class changes for patch 5.4.

Class Changes: Carnage Marauder / Combat Sentinel | 08.16.2017, 07:22 PM
Below are the upcoming changes for Carnage and Combat coming in Game Update 5.4.

Note: All changes below are currently in development and are subject to change before being released.


  • Reduced the critical strike damage bonus granted by Sever from 15% to 10%
  • Reduced the damage bonus to Ataru Form attacks granted by Ataru Mastery from 5% to 3%


  • Reduced the critical strike damage bonus granted by Saber Storm from 15% to 10%
  • Reduced the damage bonus to Ataru Form attacks granted by Ataru Mastery from 5% to 3%

DevNotes: The Carnage/ Combat discipline was overperforming, so we reduced the effectiveness of two key passives to bring their DPS back in line with the target.



  • Need2Crash

    I guess the lied out there asses when they said

    Melee Burst/Ranged Sustained Damage Dealers (at the target DPS)

    Advanced Prototype Powertech / Tactics Vanguard
    Carnage Marauder / Combat Sentinel
    Concealment Operative / Scrapper Scoundrel
    Deception Assassin / Infiltration Shadow
    Engineering Sniper / Saboteur Gunslinger
    Innovative Ordnance Mercenary / Assault Specialist Commando
    Madness Sorcerer / Balance Sage
    Rage Juggernaut / Focus Guardian

    BW is very good at saying one thing and doing something else. They do this I want them to make Ferocity 100% armor penetration a stack of 3-4 or maybe they ninja reduce that window for even more.

    • Frigi

      They didn’t lie, just as that order was not some new thing they were doing. That has always been their intended order. They have never succeeded in achieving it, why would they now?

      “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”

    • Daeriis

      Melee Burst/Ranged Sustained Damage Dealers (at the target DPS) .. All it says is Melee Burst @ Target Dps not Sustained which they nerfed now.

    • AdjeYo

      They never said Carnage was at its intended dps, they said it would ideally sit at around the target DPS. They were above it, so they got nerfed, I fail to see what’s so hard to understand about this

  • k

    fuck u bioware
    canceling sub until they use their fucking brain

    • Fred Garvin

      Might as well uninstall then…

    • gua543

      Mate, I bet you haven’t set foot in ranked PvP or NiM raids. How will this nerf affect you, you gonna kill those skytroopers 10 seconds slower?

  • B-Ware does it again

    over performing?

    I put out more damage in warzones using Fury and Anni than I ever do using Crapage spec

    ffs B-Ware…get your shlt together.

    • Roscoe

      It’s overperforming in PvE, not PvP.

      • Ante Theprs

        pure bullshit it needed a boost in pve and a huge one in pvp

        • Roscoe

          Lol it’s the top performing spec in pve for every NiM fight. It just also has the highest skill ceiling of pretty much all the classes once you take into account proper clipping and fury management. You people need to learn the spec before you say how underpowered it is. I’m a carnage main and it needs to be nerfed harder than this.

        • Ahzhihod

          No, it didn’t. Please get some knowledge about the game before you make statements like that.

  • vastus

    so concentration which is op as fk get a buff even being small and carnage gets a nerf? like if playing concentration is hard, any idiot can play it, and the proff is 90% if not more play it cause is brain dead and guaranteed results…

    • Ante Theprs

      combat is super hard to play the rotation is fucked up i dotn understand why they dotn maek it easier and no harder

      • Ahzhihod

        Because right now it’s fine with the way it plays. It’s overperforming as is.

  • RogerMcro

    Yes!!! Should have nerfed even harder.

    • Ante Theprs

      no they should have given it a boost

      • Ahzhihod

        Easily the stupidest comment I’ve read all week.

        • Ante Theprs

          you are truly retarded combat has the class with most apm in the game it hard to play even for most players on server cant do the rotiation

          • Ahzhihod

            Cry harder shitter.

          • John Dullebawn III

            that depends on the circle of people you know on SWTOR. This class is no harder than properly tanking on a Sin.

            • Ante Theprs

              i am talking about apm it has the most and it the hardest dps class i never tried tanking or healing so i cant judge there

  • iowaboynca

    Dulfy-Title of your page calls out ‘Concentration’ but its the post for ‘Combat’. Just an FYI

    • Dr. Mike Wendell

      Guess someone didn’t “concentrate” enough.


      That is meant as a joke. Dulfy is a valuable member of the community.

  • GGame


    • Ante Theprs

      fuck you i hard do 10.2 k with it the rotiation is super hard to do lowering it wont help me anyway

      • JedixJarf

        git gud shitter

      • Ahzhihod

        Then learn to play. Just because you are bad at the class does not mean it’s underperforming.

        • Ante Theprs

          moron the class has the hardest rrotiation off all classes it nnot a easy class to play

          • Ahzhihod

            Yet somehow people learn it. You being bad is a you problem.

  • Ante Theprs

    this class is the hardest to play and all they thought to do is nerf instead to boost?

    • Ahzhihod

      Carnage is not that hard to play and does not need a buff. It needed a slight nerf.

  • Azheo

    buff to fury, nerf to carnage. wow…

  • Barachiel

    OVERPERFORMING!?!?!?!?!?! In what UNIVERSE is Sent/Mar topping DPS charts? Maybe in the top tier raiding guilds where they’ve mastered the class and have its priority and rotation down to an exact science. MAYBE.

    I only came on here to see if anything new had been added to tempt me back to SWTOR, instead I’m just given another reason to stay away.

    Fucking christ, these devs are out of touch.

    • Ante Theprs

      finally a person with so sense combat is the hardest class to play nad it hardly the best dpss class

      • Ahzhihod

        Combat isn’t that hard. Learn to play. It is right now the best DPS class for PvE, just because you’re bad at it doesn’t mean it’s not good.

        • ConcernedGuest

          I hate such “learn to play” comments (no offense meant) because this is a GAME. Here one should have FUN.
          Not some contest, not some work or job, not some championship.

          • Ante Theprs

            ty finally somebody get it

          • John Dullebawn III

            well to be fair they are talking about advanced end game content. And that type of player buy alot of their CM items as they want the best looking gear for group content/and for their SH’s/GS’s. I fall in this group as far as HM/NiM Ops go. Your right this is a game, but on the other hand there is advanced content its not candy crush. All we are saying is when you know the spec its totally different than mashing just the hardest hitting abilities as they are avail. BW needs to be careful how they nerf and what they nerf so both types of players can still enjoy the game.

    • Ahzhihod

      Um… please go look on Parsely and look at how many fights that Sentinels/Marauders are doing well. Carnage/Combat is way overperforming.

  • Whitedragon

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