SWTOR Patch 5.4 Delayed Another 24 Hours

Bioware is having more trouble with the patch so it is delayed another 24 hrs to Thursday.

*UPDATED* Maintenance: August 24th, 2017ย |ย 08.22.2017, 02:03 PM
Hey folks,

Unfortunately, getting the issues addressed and tested in Umbara is taking longer than expected. As much as we want to get Crisis on Umbara to you ASAP, we want to ensure that it is at a quality level we are comfortable with. For that reason, we need to delay Game Update 5.4 by an additional 24 hours.

The new maintenance window for 5.4 will be Thursday, 8/24 at 5AM PDT. I will go ahead and update this timing in all maintenance messaging as well. We do apologize for the delay and thank you again for your patience!

-eric

  • Darth Ji’inx

    *Gets out popcorn*
    Let the show begin!!

  • Jason Thomas

    they have all the time in the world to test this b4 setting a date. Its like they do it ass backwards set a date and rush the product. test it ,allow a few weeks to tweek then set a date. I know GTA online is not perfect but they seem to work their updates a lot better that TOR.

  • Jep Fareborn

    Throw subs another ‘Loyalty Reward’ , why don’tcha?

    • abaddonsmummy

      NO…not another f***ing mini droid plzzzzzzz.

      • Darth Ji’inx

        Maybe next year they’ll do porgs (new “cute” creatures from The Last Jedi)… XP

        • Wouldn’t be a surprise esp. if Porg Toys sell well for kids.. EA’s Marketing Suits have eye for such things.. Unfortunately. More Crap for the planet & big portion of that won’t be recycled properly.

      • Darth Gnaw

        I’d take yet another mini droid over HK-themed underpants…

    • Dr. Mike Wendell

      Actually it was mentioned that they’re going to do the first stronghold room for 5k credits because of this.

      Granted the additional rooms are still up there but at least we’ll get the first room for cheap.

  • Jonathan Parker

    I’ll bet there will still be a ton of bugs and glitches introduced here, plus another refusal to fix the dozens if not hundreds we already have.

  • Mark Saunders

    Bah! bloody trains are never on time!!!! The train hovers, so don’t give us the old “leaves on the train-line” crap! ๐Ÿ™‚

    Not that bothered about the delay but after 3 decades of gaming I fail to see what difference 24 hours will make? Just as long as SWTOR keeps improving I’m happy.

    • Think the same, but half Mmo Swtor not improving with this inc. patch ๐Ÿ˜› Still Heavily Simplified Half Mmo w Outdated & Glitchy engine. Good that Mom & daughter feud storyline is over & now waiting for many gameplay simplifications to be disabled & be line was at 3.0 or before.

      Also rest of the new Ops Boss encounters released at same time like done in Mmo’s & them to include Nim diff. After them can think of subbing back. Subbed till launch to early dec 2016 & maybe should’ve left months before cause there was no proper content for a long time. Take care enjoy gaming wherever that is ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Nomad

    Better to keep delaying the patch than release it and break the game.

    • Danny Seth

      You think they won’t release it broken? Hah, like that didn’t happen every time!

      • Nomad

        Well…..less broken perhaps.

      • Baldarhion

        Quote for truth :3

    • John Kosto

      The game has been broken since a couple of years ago, too late for that…

  • Djangus Roundstone

    dawg

  • jesus fucking christ

    • Jesus Fucking Christ

      Yes?

      • Yes?

        What?

      • Darth Ji’inx

        Noice XD

  • nana
  • Deshik

    who the hell needs 48 hours to fix one bug?

    • Bogdan Paunescu

      Obviously you’ve never worked as a developer. Even the simplest of bugs require rigurous testing which takes time. Let’s not even talk about bugs that take days only to fix.

    • Brian Cant

      Because they need to create a new bug to take its place.

  • It’s like watching a dog play the piano…..

    • lolipop

  • Fortissimus

    Obviously the SWTOR haters keep coming back… lol… u pay to play the newer stuff… so you don’t hate it that bad…

  • John Kosto

    Haha, completely and utterly ridiculous.

  • King_Prickar d

    the trains are always running late in london, so i guess i will have to walk to umbara

  • Alexander Delorean

    biofail episode 3 – we cant fix it asap

  • Why give the date of patch implementation, as they do not even know when to put it.#funnybioware

  • Paulo Gomes

    See, this is what I don’t get: why postpone in 24 hour windows? Why not come out and postpone it for a week? Sure, it would piss people a bit more than 24 hours. But it would piss them once only (hopefully). Takes the pressure off the guys that are solving and then testing this bug, and it’s a lot better than looking more incompetent every time you don’t meet the deadline.

    • Fred Garvin

      Because that is what a competent operation would do.

    • Rob

      Well competence has never been a principal they adhere to. That being said you can kind of understand the urgency to get a content update out, if I was releasing as little content as they do I’d want it out there asap.

      • Darth Ji’inx

        Competence has never been their principle? Just because they don’t always cater to specific sections of the community, it doesn’t mean that they are incompetent. These small, scattered content releases could be the result of a reduced staff, as many have surmised, and/or they are focusing on 6.0’s expansion in the background. We’re only seeing what’s on the surface, meaning our judgments don’t hold much water. Are they out of touch with the community? Possibly, especially under Ben.

        Ultimately, I don’t see incompetence. What I see is a team that is possibly understaffed and a bit out-of-touch with their playerbase trying to give us something new, and getting bashed whenever they try to fix the inevitable mistake that occurs.

        • Rob

          More excuses, if 4.0 was awful because they were focusing on 5.0, why has 5.0 been so bad? How can anyone expect 6.0 to be any better? Look I’m no sub at the moment but you must realise that your monthly fee is to play the game they are currently giving you. If you’re happy, then fair enough. But to continue to make excuses for BW and hope that the game will miraculously transform is pure fantasy.

          Ultimately I can only judge on what is delivered and not hypothesise on the state that BW Austin is in. The amount of playable content they deliver is so little it’s a disgrace. I’d be embarrassed to have my name attached to this. However that could be accepted if they reduced the sub fee, but as they continue to charge the same as they always have I believe they should deliver as much as used to (1.0 – 2.0 for example).

          • Paulo Gomes

            I’ll play the devil’s advocate here. Yes, I see your point. And I agree with you. Mostly.

            But this company has been on a roller coaster of people coming in and out. Their main game coder quit some time ago (a year ago perhaps? If anyone can determine the exact date please do so). And as we all know, this game runs on a modified Hero Engine. Now, when a main coder leaves you can have one of two situations: either he was able/willing to delegate and share his work with the rest of the team, or not.

            I’m guessing here, I won’t pretend to know it all. But by the way weird bugs sometimes creep into the game, these guys are opening a Pandora’s box each time they mess with the codes. Meaning: the other guy left and they don’t know what he did EXACTLY.

            Of course, you are absolutely right when you say “not my problem. I’m a client, I just want a functioning game”.

            But maybe, just maybe, these guys are doing the absolute best they can. It may not be enough, but hey…

            • Rob

              I dunno Paulo, The Cartel Market seems to be running pretty efficiently.

              I don’t doubt that the coders and developers are trying their best but the decisions from above seem to have decimated any chance they have of actually accomplishing anything of significance. And the fact that they’ve allowed their product to decline so significantly that it is now far inferior to their rivals is woeful. These same people continue to charge a premium MMO subscription rate despite the fact that their product is clearly very far from premium.

              The question is where have these decisions come from? Is it producer incompetence? Or has the decision come from higher to milk this and move on? We are not privy to the inner workings of BW Austin so we can only speculate.

              • Paulo Gomes

                Agree. You won’t get any flack from me as to what regards their updates. If there’s one person that has been critical of them, that’s me. Constructive criticism (I try anyways), but criticism just the same.

                The Cartel Market runs efficiently because it requires minimal staff, technical expertise and maintenance to produce aesthetics. And God knows some bugs creep in there too lol… I have said it and I maintain that: I have no problems with the CM. Every MMO has a cash shop. I don’t think the resources put into the CM are holding productivity back. If you run a restaurant you won’t improve the service if you put the guy taking orders making meals next to the chef. If anything the CM is keeping this game afloat.

                Your last paragraph is the quest for the BW Holy Grail my friend. That’s the question we “haters” have been asking for years! Why isn’t more money put into this game? A STAR WARS game that should sell itself to the top of ALL the MMO polls? We’re getting half the material other MMO’s are. AT BEST.

                And yes, we can only speculate. And stop giving them our money if we are not satisfied, which I did more than a year ago.

              • Rob

                The thing is, I never used to be bothered by the cash shop. Like you say pretty much every game has micro transactions for aesthetics, that’s just the way 21st century gaming is. The frustration for me is that in ToR the cash shop has become too large a part of the game, because of their own shortsightedness.

                Now Paulo in the past my criticism was largely constructive. During my last year as sub I continually hit their own forums and asked, with many others, for more group content. In the end I had to as you have and vote with my wallet. But instead of making them think that they should get their asses in gear, it seems to have only exacerbated the problem.

                I only see subscriber numbers that have dwindled further and rather than address the why of this happening they just continue down the same path but add more and more to the cash shop in the hopes it’ll save them. Some of these direct sales are an abomination, a few months equivalent sub cost for an armour set! 6 months for a Lightsaber! How long can the CM alone keep them afloat? At some point even the most ardent of whiteknights will surely become bored.

                My anger stems from the fact that they won’t address why the game has gotten in such a sorry state. I remember them saying during BETA and Launch that they wanted to compete with WoW. Well for a couple of years they were doing the right things, I wonder why they changed their tune? After all, Rome was built in a day. Maybe if they’d stuck it out we’d be praising ToR as the Premier MMO.

              • Rob

                The thing is, I never used to be bothered by the cash shop. Like you say pretty much every game has micro transactions for aesthetics, that’s just the way 21st century gaming is. The frustration for me is that in ToR the cash shop has become too large a part of the game because of their own shortsightedness.
                Now Paulo in the past my criticism was largely constructive. During my last year as sub I continually hit their own forums and asked, with many others, for more group content. In the end I had to, as you have, and vote with my wallet. But instead of making them think that they should get their asses in gear, it seems to have only exacerbated the problem.
                I only see subscriber numbers that have dwindled further and rather than address the why of this happening they just continue down the same path but add more and more to the cash shop in the hopes it’ll save them. Some of these direct sales are an abomination, a few months equivalent sub cost for an armour set! 6 months for a Lightsaber! How long can the CM alone keep them afloat? At some point even the most ardent of whiteknights will surely become bored.
                My anger stems from the fact that they won’t address why the game has gotten in such a sorry state. I remember them saying during BETA and Launch that they wanted to compete with WoW. Well for a couple of years they were doing the right things, I wonder why they changed their tune? After all, Rome wasn’t built in a day. Maybe if they’d stuck it out we’d be praising ToR as the Premier MMO….

              • Paulo Gomes

                Yes, again I agree with you. Like I said in another post, when you get a post here on Dulfy about aesthetics that has more comments than all the class changes posts combined… That’s a revealing sign right there.

                My sadness with this game comes from “them” losing the plot. It could be such an awesome game. It WAS an awesome game during some time. After the initial debacle when it went f2p, the Oricon phase of the game was just excellent.

                Well, it seems they’re trying right now. Let’s see where this leads…

              • Rob

                I agree mostly as the first couple of years did have some teething problems. But at the time f2p really did help the numbers after they drove a quite a few players away with their first RNG experiment. However the need for f2p has long gone, especially since level sync was introduced. I think we’ve talked before about how good the Oricon story was, diverse in gameplay and very well delivered. Perhaps that was the pinnacle of this game. It has pretty much downhill ever since.

                Also sorry Paulo, didn’t mean to have a rant at you before, we largely agree on most things and hope it didn’t seem I was picking a fight ๐Ÿ™‚
                I commend you for your optimism regarding the future ๐Ÿ™‚

                However I do share the optimism and whilst I am not a cynical or pessimistic person, when it comes to ToR BioWare have crushed my spirit and trust so badly I cannot see any light in at the end of this tunnel, only a deeper a abyss ๐Ÿ™

        • Rompe Himself

          *Ahem*, You don’t see incompetence? I’ll just leave this right here for you:

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ccb2caa43ba88db8e7bae04bb79f0ae89968c641a0cd6c5573c4fc25880499b3.jpg

          • Darth Ji’inx

            Stretching it out for two weeks keeps people doing the new content for longer. ๐Ÿ˜‰
            That’s not to say I’m happy about it… :/

    • Darth Ji’inx

      Do you mean a tentative extra week deadline with a chance of an earlier release? While that sounds reasonable, it’s too risky. We have all this rage over a mere two-day delay. Just imagine a week-long delay. I think it would piss people off far worse than what you’re predicting.

      • Danny Seth

        They delayed Iokath for a week, so it wouldn’t of been surprising.

      • Paulo Gomes

        Yeah, there is that possibility. But let’s face it: most of this rage is nonsense. IF they fix it in 48 hours it’s not so bad. IF. Let’s wait and see the aftermath, look for extraneous bugs that might appear. I’ve been around for a loooong time, I remember bugs that appear that have NOTHING to do with a patch. I’ve had my Achievements disappear, my Cartel Coins disappear, my toons back to level 1… And let’s not even go to SoR. That one was a royal mess.

        The only real problem I see with postponing a patch is when you have Early Access. I’m not aware if you have Early Access for this patch. But I guess people (like me) who thought they were getting Early Access and were getting Beta Tests instead might be pissed.

        Otherwise, I would definitely prefer to wait a week and have a functioning game than wait for several patches to fix a broken game.

        But you’re right, maybe that’s just me…

        • Errtai

          I never had my toons went back to level 1, when did that happen (just curious)?

          • Paulo Gomes

            Oh I can’t remember exactly. But it was a minor issue, some sort of miscommunication with the servers. Frightening, but luckily sorted out within a day or so. Now my Cartel Coins, that was a bit worse. It took a long time to have that one sorted out.

  • later

    Alright. Next Monday, I’m really happy when I finally see Umbara and the chuchu Stronghold on Monday.

    I don’t believe they get it done earlier.

  • Errtai

    Bleh, delayed again now? Ah well, as long as I will be able to play on weekend I don’t care.

    It’s just a flashpoint anyway and I’m not a sub (read: totally under-geared), so all I will be able to do will be the solo mode anyway.

  • Caedes

    The SWTOR Circus on Patch Wheels will continue after another set of 24 hour commercials!

  • Caedes

    Oh and remember that one joke I made about them spending more time on the blog story then they did the actual patch? Looks like that was more truth than I was ever hoping for.

    http://dulfy.net/2017/08/17/swtor-trading-scars-short-story-umbara/

    • Darth Ji’inx

      What truth? How does a guy spending a few hours writing a mini story post have anything to do with game development time?

  • Fred Garvin
  • Rob

    Are we even sure this is going to be a full Flashpoint? I wouldn’t be surprised if this is just another single boss fight. Sorry for the pessimism, but multi boss fights with travel killing and large instances are a different game ago. I fear this will be a glorified Uprising.

    • Shawn Hargrave

      Theyll give you the first part of it now and the rest in november lolz

      • Prop yeah… ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ How many Boss Encounters from new “Half Raid” are out now ? 2x.. 3x.. Crazy sh** :/ Only Company developing Mmo to do that crap.. :/

        Kind Regards: Ex Sub from launch “4.9years” upto early Dec 2016 when things were ruined even more & no proper Mmo Development on sight. So only logical move was to Unsub since started at launch. Created Website profile in 2008 just days after it opened. Was in 1st beta day to last one.

        Waiting for Proper update & hope that Gameplay Simplifications are Turned back to way they were at 3.0 or Pref. before that on Good old Days. Then to Sub Back.
        Peace o/ #MmoBasedOnOneOfTheBiggestIP #OutdatedGlitchyGameEngine

    • Darth Ji’inx

      It’s a full flashpoint with story cutscenes.

  • De-ranker

    Is Bioware capable of doing anything right?

    • Vladislav

      Believe me, it progress. They could deploy it and it would be 24 hours maintenance instead of just delay

    • Jep Fareborn

      Substitute the word ‘capable’ with ‘competent’.

  • Darth Gnaw

    Well, at least they are delaying it for fixing. Ben Irving would have launched it anyways and then banned everyone for exploiting all the bugs.

  • Colr

    Wish they’d do something about my overflow of companions. Let me airlock like nine out of ten so they stop cluttering my interface. Seriously I’ll pay like 2000 cartel coins just to hide them from the screen

    • Ran Sherman

      ah i hear you, as far as i’m concerned i can just keep lana and the rest can fuck off ๐Ÿ˜›

  • ๅนณ่ณ€ๆ‰ไบบ

    They should compensate players with some Coins for shit like this lol. At least 200-500 for the troubles depending on the severity of the issues, its not our fault as players when they mess up an update that needs to be delayed, when they release an update with game impairing bugs nor when a server crashes for a couple hours.

    • Toot

      Not sure how people are “troubled” or inconvenienced by an update that mainly just adds new content. Its not like its patching a game breaking bug or server outage….

    • Ran Sherman

      compensate for what? the game still works, compensation would make sense if they release the update with the bug, which they have not. you want compensation for waiting two days? it’s not like you couldn’t play the game in this two days.

      • Louis Brogan

        glad i didn’t burn vacation time for the date they originally gave us.

        • Jep Fareborn

          It’s really quite sad in this day and age where in our society we have to plan around making time to just play a new fucking video game update. Yeah, I was planning to take my family on holiday to Maui, myself. :p

          • Ran Sherman

            never been to maui, heard it’s pretty there ๐Ÿ˜€

          • Rompe Himself

            Different strokes Wonder Boy. I used to work in an I.T. firm where one of the main developers for the software we did never took any time off all year (unless family emergencies like anyone would). However, the only time this hard working bastard (Who was over 55) took time off was when a WOW expansion came out ,in which he would take a week off. Everyone chooses to spend their time their own way. I wouldn’t do it but I never faulted or critiqued him for it. To each their own.

        • Ran Sherman
      • Jep Fareborn

        “The game still works….” What a pale and shallow excuse of a defense. lol

        • Ran Sherman

          excuse for what? the bug is not in the game since they delayed the patch to fix it… the bug doesn’t exist in the game, fact. it exist in testing only which is the reason for the delay. i mean this guy literally asked for a compensation for waiting two days extra for an update…

          • ๅนณ่ณ€ๆ‰ไบบ

            And still, the patch was released with bugs and exploits.

      • ๅนณ่ณ€ๆ‰ไบบ

        Yeah dude but you forget they HAVE released a LOT of buggy updates in the past.

    • Rompe Himself

      Not that I want to defend BW Austin (because they are one hell of a bad joke of a dev studio), but people like you are a cancer within the gaming community that needs to be nuked into oblivion. This whole compensate bullshit. For what?? They are delaying the roll out of a patch. Big fucking deal. The rest of the game works for the most part (I see GTN Preview still fails a year later but I digress). The patch will come out at some point, no doubt glitchy or broken in some way. It won’t kill you to wait a few more days til they release it less broken then it was originally.

      • ๅนณ่ณ€ๆ‰ไบบ

        Who knows? Maybe it COULD kill you… Just say I didn’t blame them for the rest of bugs that have been existing there since launch. And all those bugs that are still present around the expansions that they find just to boring to fix.

  • Nattwenny

    Just got back into the game. I started playing on day one and despite this delay, I will say that the game has come a long way and is a hell of alot more streamlined and fun.

    • Rompe Himself

      You actually being serious here??? Are you at end game since returning or just picking back up after SOR with a lvl 60 or something? Have you started the GC RNG merry go round let alone the travesty that is “Keeping up with the Valkorians”?? If not, you will soon see how terrible SWTOR has become since it’s original awesomeness. ๐Ÿ™

  • Razzy

    Server’s are back online!!!!

  • Rompe Himself

    So has BW said anything about this stunning facepalm that Dulfy discovered with the new SH being locked for a week??

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ccb2caa43ba88db8e7bae04bb79f0ae89968c641a0cd6c5573c4fc25880499b3.jpg

    • Vincent van der Laan

      do master mode fp of new one and u have it even today xD

      • Baldarhion

        Nope, because of the weekly limit (50 recon data per week max) :3

    • Paulo Gomes

      Lol… Look out for a small patch sometime next week then. My analysis? They haven’t really solved the bug yet (it must be within the new Stronghold), and instead of postponing the patch for a week (like I said they should), they did this.

      They’ll come out and say that locking the SH was a mistake, make a small patch to “correct” that… But the patch will actually be to correct the bug… I might be mistaken, but it would be kind of interesting if it turns out this way… ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Baldarhion

    Just when I thought than nothing could be as stupid as Iokath,… In my opinion, Umbara’s story is dumb. The FP is laggy as hell. Too bad, the environment is really nice, a bunch of new species, etc…

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