SWTOR Marksmanship Sniper/Sharpshooter Gunslinger Changes for 5.5

Here are the class changes for Marksmanship Sniper/Sharpshooter Gunslinger for game update 5.5 coming October 10.

Class Changes: Marksmanship Sniper / Sharpshooter Gunslinger | 09.20.2017, 06:17 PM
Hey folks,

Below you will find the upcoming changes for Marksmanship and Sharpshooter in Game Update 5.5.

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Note: All changes below are currently in development and are subject to change before being released.

Sniper
Marksmanship

  • Honed Shots now grants a 3% bonus to critical hit chance and damage done by Snipe per stack, down from 5%


Gunslinger
Sharpshooter

  • Honed Shots now grants a 3% bonus to critical hit chance and damage done by Charged Burst per stack, down from 5%


DevNotes: Marksmanship / Gunslinger Sharpshooter was slightly overperforming, so we reduced the critical hit chance and damage of Snipe / Charged Burst by a small amount through a passive, which brought the discipline in line with its DPS target.

-eric

  • HMH

    I don’t really know what to say…
    I didn’t even know anyone else played sharpshooter. Aren’t there classes with glaring obvious balances that need to be made before this?

  • DoubleDoom

    Yay. A nerf to a sharpshooter when it was already barely viable on many bosses in NM ops.

  • AbnerDoon

    Maybe the didn’t check to see that most players don’t even use this tree anymore.

  • This Game is Dead

    Just 3 comments? This game is dead

    • Guest

      Its is a school night so there’s not gonna be a lot of comments till the weekend (in the US that is)

    • Paulo Gomes

      Go back. Look up all the last Class changes that were posted lately on Dulfy. No post has more than 40 comments. The few people left playing the game are not interested in class changes.

  • Lowest Ranged DPS spec in the game finally bets the buff it deser……wait a fucking NERF? I hope Hurricane Harvey comes back and only hits Bioware Austin.

    • Paulo Gomes

      Oh man… I really feel for you. I distinctly remember you claiming for a buff to the class… And rightfully so. My favourite spec is Engineering, but I must say I have a lot of fun with Marksmanship.

      What the hell are these guys doing? Why a nerf?

      Just… WHY???

      Where does it say it’s overperforming? Show me the stats.

      Here’s what I think: they have two hats at BW, Austin. One has little papers with all the classes in it. The other one just has two papers: one that says “buff” and another one that says “nerf”. Sometimes, when they’re not busy doing ugly reskins for the CM, they get one guy to draw a paper from each of the hats. And then they act according to what he draws out…

      • Drivan

        Well Dice BW, Vicereal and that other studio have confirmed that, on top of SW: BF2 we have 2 more Star Wars PC games coming out in 2018. Add to that the fact that EA exec’s have let slip that BW:A will be announcing and launching a new game before the end of April; I’m hedging bets that they are keeping SWTOR players around just long enough for those 3 titles to launch hoping that most players will move to one of the 3 SW titles or the new Bioware property.
        Even STO, NWO and Wildstar are giving players more everything (except micro transactions) than SWTOR.

        • Paulo Gomes

          It’s been rumoured that staff from BW, Austin have already been diverted to that new game.

          It’s called “Anthem”.

          • Drivan

            Star Wars meets Assassins Creed, Halo and Titan fall? All taking place on a “Terris” like world.

            • Rompe Himself

              Just remember early footage of Andromeda (especially the 4k vids) also made that game look kick ass and look at the end result.

              Bioware a pale shadow of their once glorious self.

            • Paulo Gomes

              It could be the second coming of Christ to Earth in a videogame for all I care. I’m not going near another EA/BW product again.

              • Rob

                The thing is I’ll still buy FIFA ever year, I’ll curse EA’s name for what has happened to TOR but as long as the title I want is still decent (I’ve been playing a lot of Sport titles recently) I’ll judge on a game by game basis.

                BW is a different story though. If TOR was thriving, I probably would have tried Anthem, but as it is I won’t even do them the courtesy of watching the trailer above. As the saying goes, I wouldn’t piss on BW if they were on fire.

              • Paulo Gomes

                Let me re-phrase what I said. I won’t touch another EA/BW product LEGALLY. I’d be more than happy to use illegal downloads to check their games out. In fact, I’d be proud to do so. And as a musician, I’m very much against that sort of thing, since it killed the industry that puts food on MY table.

                EA represents everything I hate about the gaming industry. Not so much BW (they’re just incompetent). EA has such a record of taking little, ingenious and creative studios and burning them to the ground it’s ridiculous.

                BW was one of the best, if not THE best studio for Single Player RPG games. Neverwinter Nights, KotOR, Baldur’s Gate… Great games. Even Dragon Age was great. Only Bethesda was in the same league as BW, as far as I’m concerned. Sadly they knew nothing of MMO’s and took on this project and made a mess of it.

                But there will always be a soft spot in my heart for BW, because of the quality of their pre-EA work.

              • Rob

                Well I see your point Paulo, and to be fair KoTOR is probably my all time favourite game, maybe TOR would’ve over taken it if things hadn’t gone south a while back, guess we’ll never know. I also used to play a bit of Mass Effect and while I wasn’t a huge fan, it was reasonably enjoyable. I haven’t even looked at ME: Andromeda, that’s how low BW have sank in my estimation, I won’t give their titles a glance 🙁

                I suppose I could excuse BW this fail because of all the fun KoTOR brought me, however I still think we were all due a certain amount of loyalty from BW in terms of game direction. We purchased TOR as a MMO and subscribed for years so we could play with friends. Then BW decided to go and move the goalposts and make it a solo game. That’s why I’ll mainly blame BW for this debacle over EA. That’s also why EA will still get my custom for certain titles (mainly EA Sports titles).

              • Paulo Gomes

                Oh… By all means, I lay LOTS of blame on BW. A lot of what went wrong is on their shoulders, not EA’s. A WHOLE FREAKIN’ LOT. I’m not one of those guys that thinks EA is completely to blame. They gave BW the ball. Where BW took the ball is on their shoulders, not EA’s.

                I forgot Mass Effect. That was an AWESOME game. I did repeated runs on that game. Yes, even ME:3. Still do from time to time. Have a Trilogy Edition that I bought. Andromeda I haven’t yet checked out.

                *whispering*

                But don’t tell anyone I said this: if I do… I’ll do it… illegally… If at all possible…

                😉

              • Drivan

                Preach it Brother!

          • DualBlastersGuy

            Obvious Destiny rip off is obviously ripping off Destiny.

            I wonder just how obnoxious the cash shop and/or paid DLC will be, especially given how bad it was with the original Destiny
            (As well, it would appear that it’s going to be a case of same shit/different day with its sequel.)

            Maybe another “Hold my beer…” moment for BioWaste, a la Mass Effect: Andromeda?

            These guys just so gleefully plunge headlong from nadir to nadir to nadir, it’s never stopped for like the last five years.

            Really, it just boggles the mind:

            How the fuck can these people even keep their jobs and stay in business?

        • Fred Garvin

          Hell, as Naq posted on another page, even the original Everquest is still putting out expansions with raid content and new areas for exploration.

          • DualBlastersGuy

            It’s amazing what can happen when you have competent devs who actually give a fuck, eh?

      • Rob

        I had some good Marksmanship days, its the spec I played during story as it makes you feel like a proper Sniper 😛

        Not currently playing but from the outrage it seems appropriate to say ‘Fuck you BW!.

        In fact there’s always a reason to say ‘Fuck you, BW’!

        So Fuck you, BW!

        • Paulo Gomes

          Classy AND smart, Rob. Masksmanship is the best spec to level up through the game if you go Sniper. THEN I respeced to Engi.

          Oh! and yeah…

          Fuck you, BW!

          🙂

          • Rob

            Always gotta role Engi on Ops. Said it before, greats minds 😛

    • Drivan

      I would say, “it’s because it’s OP in PvP,” but that isn’t even true. This Nerf seems completely pointless…

      • Paulo Gomes

        It is. They’ve completely lost the plot at this point.

        • Drivan

          They are just trying to hang on for as long as they can. It’s sad to see anything Star Wars related struggle and fail this way.

          • Rob

            For sure, the way the game has gone is heartbreaking 🙁

      • HMH

        Ive played this spec on my main since 1.0, believe me it’s not even OP in story chapters..

        • Drivan

          I hear ya man. I have a GS that I play in sharpshooter just because the spec is fun. It has been shit since Orbital Strike got it’s first nerf.

      • sadness

        Agree. Deeply disappointing. MM remains the first spec I played in 1.0 and will always be a favourite. It’s been so let down recently when it should be an apex dps style. BW could have made something special out of it, reinvigorated it as a vicious single target specialist spec etc, yet this seems a pointless jab to the throat of an already marginalised play choice.

  • Ricardo

    Lowest Ranged DPS spec in the game finally bets the buff it deser……wait a fucking NERF? I hope Hurricane Harvey comes back and only hits Bioware Austin.

    • Paulo Gomes

      You know, if you like someone’s comment you can just upvote. You don’t need to copy the entire comment and post as your own…

      • Fred Garvin

        Or…..Ricardo IS Musco Sucks, thought the comment didn’t post but had, he forgot he had switched accounts and posted it again!

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/15647c8f32ac5107915928468207a0655ba8f93fbe88e590a3d97a9cde2ffa5a.jpg

        • Paulo Gomes

          Hey, that’s a possibility! I once caught a guy doing that. Holyfrog. He was in an argument with Captain R (remember THAT one???), and replied with another account.

          Well spotted Fred.

          • Fred Garvin

            So this has happened at least 2 other times recently. The other I just noticed on a comment I replied to on the Annihilation/Watchman class change page. Something’s up. It isn’t with the same account either. Bots of some kind?

            • Paulo Gomes

              I don’t know. What I sensed some time back was that some people used different accounts to validate their points. As in, somebody else agrees with me. I saw a few guys doing that. And you could spot it, because some people don’t speak English as their native language (yours truly included). So they would make the same mistakes, or use the same line in another comment. You couldn’t actually prove it, except when they slipped up. Which was what happened with Holyfrog. He replied to Captain R with a different account on an ongoing conversation.

              But that doesn’t really apply here. There’s no heated discussion. Just a random comment that appears twice, with no apparent reason.

              Well… An interesting occurrence. Way more interesting than the actual game, at least…

  • John Kosto

    I wonder how they get their metrics…. maybe these are also RNG? They throw a dice and decide that a certain class and spec is underperforming? Marksmanship used to be what I played all the time with my Sniper…. now I simply don’t play with my Sniper anymore because it’s just so much lower than all my other main toons when raiding. It’s pretty fun in PvP with all these awesome AOE’s…. but that’s just not enough.

    These guys have no idea of how to judge what DPS a class does… And they prioritize in PvP, which is idiotic. It’s not even the FOTM in PvP….

  • c

    Nerfing what’s already on the ground?

  • Neg Sani

    The metric gods have spoken! Never mind that I don’t think I’ve EVER heard anyone say MM is OP. Nor have I heard anyone recommend it for at least a year (and it’s never been a PVP spec). I would have thought the spec needed a buff, but WTF do I know?

  • Silko
    • Ristas

      For the few people who doesn’t already know it:

      And for everbody who want’s to see it again, and is to lazy to search for it…
      🙂

      • Paulo Gomes

        Omg… This is so good. Been a while since I laughed so hard…

        And it’s even worse if you can understand what he says in Spanish, because there’s no relation whatsoever.

        Once again I say: this Forum is a lot more fun than the actual game.

  • Louis Brogan

    🙁 ….still won’t change for raids.

  • Bevinator

    Nerfing an already nerf’d and generally under performing spec… nice

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  • Fuck you BioWare

    What the fuck…These devs are absolutely incompetent. These people, they do not deserve your money. This fucking game deserves to die.

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  • deletebioware.exe

    Lülz!
    “Gunslinger Sharpshooter was slightly overperforming”

    Un be lie vab le!

    What skills do you need to become a BioWare employee? Is it just incompetence? Or is there something else?

  • Meric Usco

    This is how BioWare imagines the sniper class:

    BioWare’s hate for this spec makes me sad!

  • DualBlastersGuy

    Nerf, nerf, nerf, nerf, nerf, nerf, nerf, nerf.

    Fucking patch after patch, year after year, it never ends. Always “just one more” nerf, and it’s still never enough for the worthless crybaby cash-shop casuals.

    But Hell, they’ve even begun ruining my Mercs after five years too, so at least everyone gets their turn.

    (Just as an aside: After Arsenal Mercs, SabotSlinger/EngiSniper was by far my favourite PvP ranged class/spec, but I parked all of mine for anything but casual/solo PvE content and Flashpoints because of how those incompetents ruined it in 3.0, and that it’s never been right again since. It still got nerfed some more recently, though!)

    They don’t know how to do anything else, and this Kaneg twat calls himself a PvPer…

    Yeah, I think I know exactly what kind of PvPer he is/was, we all know the type all too well:

    Any class that beats him in any PvP match anytime ever is ZOMG OP TO STRNK NEEDZ NURFED!!!!!!!111oneone, but his class –whichever FotM he happens to be playing that week– is always under-performing.

    He’ll also justify his crying in the official site’s PvP toilet –pardon: subforum— by telling anyone who calls him on his bullshit that they don’t get it because they’re just not as good as he is.

    So glad I un-subbed from this train-wreck, why can’t they just do the honourable thing and put BioWare out of its –and our– misery?

    I mean, whilst there’s still some of us old fucks left who have some positive memories left of the company that gave us KotOR, Shepard’s trilogy, and yes, even TOR up to 2.xx and not this sad, bitter joke.

  • Dan Hamilton

    lmao Gunslinger Sharpshooter was slightly overperforming – WTF these idiots smokin? They checked the win/lose ratio of reps to imps? The whole bunch of morons oughtta be fired

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